That's just about every companies motto. How is the post you quoted being naive ? He simply pointed out a flaw in the O.P.s statement. In 8 months I would hope the game is in a playable state, if not I'm out $64.99 and nothing more . Which In that 8 months I'm sure that money will be of no importance to me any longer. So I really lose nothing , If FC wants to make an expansion it's no skin off my back . I won't be buying it unless A LOT changes within the core game. This really is starting to look more and more like RABID SOE hate though. The only difference is SOE actually deserved it I'm not saying FC doesn't deserve any animosity from players. Just that things like rehashed resist mods and expansions aren't all that relevant to the 50$ most spent on this game a few months ago .By the looks of things no matter what they do , Most who complain will never be happy . So why bother beating a dead horse?
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
lol soo many agressive ppl here.. cmon its just a planning. altho i fully agree early 2009 is too soon
but hey lets just see what they have added to the game by than. if they only added as much content as in AO u wouldnt be able to keep up with it but hey theres still more than enough ppl playing it, so who needs to get a clue? i think both haters and fans are right in their own ways/tastes...
MMOs currently playing: - About to play: Lord of the Rings Online Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
That's just about every companies motto. How is the post you quoted being naive ? He simply pointed out a flaw in the O.P.s statement. In 8 months I would hope the game is in a playable state, if not I'm out $64.99 and nothing more . Which In that 8 months I'm sure that money will be of no importance to me any longer. So I really lose nothing , If FC wants to make an expansion it's no skin off my back . I won't be buying it unless A LOT changes within the core game. This really is starting to look more and more like RABID SOE hate though. The only difference is SOE actually deserved it I'm not saying FC doesn't deserve any animosity from players. Just that things like rehashed resist mods and expansions aren't all that relevant to the 50$ most spent on this game a few months ago .By the looks of things no matter what they do , Most who complain will never be happy . So why bother beating a dead horse?
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have to agree with people that are not to thrilled with Funcom talking about expansion packs already. To me that says they don't really care enough to put everyone on the live project to get it finished the way it should have been, but instead want more money.
This is drawing to many paralelles with SOE for me to be optomistic.
Well - Even Vanguard was not so stupid to talk about expansions when the game was bleeding bugs and content. Not to mention ppl leaving because of these issues.
Well, Age of Conan set for fast expansion, But an expansion to finish a unfinished game and they expect me to pay for that?. I've never seen an MMO releasing an expansion so early after the release of the game, It kinda sound like money milking. Beside early 2009?, more likely 2010 (Funcom are incapability to stick to deadlines)
That's just about every companies motto. How is the post you quoted being naive ? He simply pointed out a flaw in the O.P.s statement. In 8 months I would hope the game is in a playable state, if not I'm out $64.99 and nothing more . Which In that 8 months I'm sure that money will be of no importance to me any longer. So I really lose nothing , If FC wants to make an expansion it's no skin off my back . I won't be buying it unless A LOT changes within the core game. This really is starting to look more and more like RABID SOE hate though. The only difference is SOE actually deserved it I'm not saying FC doesn't deserve any animosity from players. Just that things like rehashed resist mods and expansions aren't all that relevant to the 50$ most spent on this game a few months ago .By the looks of things no matter what they do , Most who complain will never be happy . So why bother beating a dead horse?
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
Again - Mymir's pass is not the fix for even half of the huge problems the +55 content has atm. ITs a small area with few quests that is "due" in August. Just like the whole PVP system was due in June. Get it ? its all PR. OFC they will not say right now that the payed expansion is only the missing content in the orginal game. That will come l8ter when they have piled up enough stuff to say its to much to get into one big patch. When the patches in the 5 months before have not had any content updates. This is how the small companies do it. This is how Funcom does it.
I have to agree with people that are not to thrilled with Funcom talking about expansion packs already. To me that says they don't really care enough to put everyone on the live project to get it finished the way it should have been, but instead want more money. This is drawing to many paralelles with SOE for me to be optomistic.
Honestly every game is in this same place today with few exceptions. Sure it's easy to say the game isn't ready for an expansion , That's a given . However until they decide to give up on fixing the actual game , Its quite absurd to crticize them for doing so . I'm all for voicing concerns , Given those concerns are vaild . Which In the case of the OP they aren't (as of yet anyway )
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
That's just about every companies motto. How is the post you quoted being naive ? He simply pointed out a flaw in the O.P.s statement. In 8 months I would hope the game is in a playable state, if not I'm out $64.99 and nothing more . Which In that 8 months I'm sure that money will be of no importance to me any longer. So I really lose nothing , If FC wants to make an expansion it's no skin off my back . I won't be buying it unless A LOT changes within the core game. This really is starting to look more and more like RABID SOE hate though. The only difference is SOE actually deserved it I'm not saying FC doesn't deserve any animosity from players. Just that things like rehashed resist mods and expansions aren't all that relevant to the 50$ most spent on this game a few months ago .By the looks of things no matter what they do , Most who complain will never be happy . So why bother beating a dead horse?
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
Again - Mymir's pass is not the fix for even half of the huge problems the +55 content has atm. ITs a small area with few quests that is "due" in August. Just like the whole PVP system was due in June. Get it ? its all PR. OFC they will not say right now that the payed expansion is only the missing content in the orginal game. That will come l8ter when they have piled up enough stuff to say its to much to get into one big patch. When the patches in the 5 months before have not had any content updates. This is how the small companies do it. This is how Funcom does it.
I never said it was or wasn't PR hence why I gave two possibilities , Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check. My point is the information the op gave was false , Is there a problem with pointing that out?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
That's just about every companies motto. How is the post you quoted being naive ? He simply pointed out a flaw in the O.P.s statement. In 8 months I would hope the game is in a playable state, if not I'm out $64.99 and nothing more . Which In that 8 months I'm sure that money will be of no importance to me any longer. So I really lose nothing , If FC wants to make an expansion it's no skin off my back . I won't be buying it unless A LOT changes within the core game. This really is starting to look more and more like RABID SOE hate though. The only difference is SOE actually deserved it I'm not saying FC doesn't deserve any animosity from players. Just that things like rehashed resist mods and expansions aren't all that relevant to the 50$ most spent on this game a few months ago .By the looks of things no matter what they do , Most who complain will never be happy . So why bother beating a dead horse?
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
Again - Mymir's pass is not the fix for even half of the huge problems the +55 content has atm. ITs a small area with few quests that is "due" in August. Just like the whole PVP system was due in June. Get it ? its all PR. OFC they will not say right now that the payed expansion is only the missing content in the orginal game. That will come l8ter when they have piled up enough stuff to say its to much to get into one big patch. When the patches in the 5 months before have not had any content updates. This is how the small companies do it. This is how Funcom does it.
I never said it was or wasn't PR hence why I gave two possibilities , Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check. My point is the information the op gave was false , Is there a problem with pointing that out?
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
You might have a point if I EVER said that , But I didn't .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
You might have a point if I EVER said that , But I didn't .
"Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check." Is that not beeing neutral ?
I never said it was or wasn't PR hence why I gave two possibilities , Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check. My point is the information the op gave was false , Is there a problem with pointing that out?
You are a prime example of a fanboi losing so much ground due to the massive amount of screw-ups by Funcom the last 2 months, you just don't know what to say anymore to defend Funcom. Simply because there isn't anything left to defend LOL.
They promissed to add a jitload of new armor sets in MAY!! Part of the promissed 1500 armorsets that SHOULD have been in launch! Wake up call! : They added only 3 cloth sets with a patch
They promissed to add the PVP system in June! Wake up call!: They didn't!
You should pay more attention to the so called Newsletters from the Game Director, with all his promisses along the past few months. NONE being delivered so far!
So why you really think they going to do so now in August? It's all PR, PR, PR, PR and more PR in a desperate attempt to keep hold on subscribers.
And then they have to guts to announce a PAID expansion already? Seriously. They can't dig a deeper hole under themselves right now
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
You might have a point if I EVER said that , But I didn't .
"Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check." Is that not beeing neutral ?
Now that would be something I said , if you can figure out what phrase In your last post I never said ,that you implied i did . I'll give you a C for effort.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I never said it was or wasn't PR hence why I gave two possibilities , Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check. My point is the information the op gave was false , Is there a problem with pointing that out?
You are a prime example of a fanboi losing so much ground due to the massive amount of screw-ups by Funcom the last 2 months, you just don't know what to say anymore to defend Funcom. Simply because there isn't anything left to defend LOL.
They promissed to add a jitload of new armor sets in MAY!! Part of the promissed 1500 armorsets that SHOULD have been in launch! Wake up call! : They added only 3 cloth sets with a patch
They promissed to add the PVP system in June! Wake up call!: They didn't!
You should pay more attention to the so called Newsletters from the Game Director, with all his promisses along the past few months. NONE being delivered so far!
So why you really think they going to do so now in August? It's all PR, PR, PR, PR and more PR in a desperate attempt to keep hold on subscribers.
And then they have to guts to announce a PAID expansion already? Seriously. They can't dig a deeper hole under themselves right now
Really ? I haven't played in almost a month I wouldn't know.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I sure as hell will NOT be buying any pay expansion for this mess of a code. AOC has some good elements but it's a bug filled bowl of bleh right now. Customer service redifines bad to a whole new level. Worst ever that I've seen. They are really dropping the ball. If this game was polished and relativly bug free it would be making millions more then it is.
I agree , no money from me until I hear something good has happened within the game . Every patch has seen more and more outcry .
With that kind of track record it's hard to have faith that things will turn around anytime soon.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
that statement about "good launch" is BS. That's what customers expect, a "good launch", not a half-assed game. What "good launch" they are talking about?, that you can actually talk to a whore for your first quest and not able to skip that quest and continue your adventures without been forced to freaking play a single-player game? I thought this was a MMO.
I have to agree with people that are not to thrilled with Funcom talking about expansion packs already. To me that says they don't really care enough to put everyone on the live project to get it finished the way it should have been, but instead want more money. This is drawing to many paralelles with SOE for me to be optomistic.
Honestly every game is in this same place today with few exceptions. Sure it's easy to say the game isn't ready for an expansion , That's a given . However until they decide to give up on fixing the actual game , Its quite absurd to crticize them for doing so . I'm all for voicing concerns , Given those concerns are vaild . Which In the case of the OP they aren't (as of yet anyway )
What I am talking about is Funcom dedicating resources to making an expansion pack when the base game is in terrible shape. I don't for one second believe that Funcom is going to dedicate more resources to the live game when they have a full expansion pack planned to launch 6-8 months.
The two projects do not lend strength to each other and more than likely will make both efforts suffer. Things are not getting fixed now at an acceptable rate. There is talk of 1 new zone and a dungeon this summer, but they are also talking about a whole expansion getting underway in that same time?
Sorry, those are misplaced priorities. Fix what was sold and deliver on what was promised and then maybe they can start thinking about new revenue streams. That isn't how things have progressed so far, so I doubt much will change.
I have to agree with people that are not to thrilled with Funcom talking about expansion packs already. To me that says they don't really care enough to put everyone on the live project to get it finished the way it should have been, but instead want more money. This is drawing to many paralelles with SOE for me to be optomistic.
Honestly every game is in this same place today with few exceptions. Sure it's easy to say the game isn't ready for an expansion , That's a given . However until they decide to give up on fixing the actual game , Its quite absurd to crticize them for doing so . I'm all for voicing concerns , Given those concerns are vaild . Which In the case of the OP they aren't (as of yet anyway )
What I am talking about is Funcom dedicating resources to making an expansion pack when the base game is in terrible shape. I don't for one second believe that Funcom is going to dedicate more resources to the live game when they have a full expansion pack planned to launch 6-8 months.
The two projects do not lend strength to each other and more than likely will make both efforts suffer. Things are not getting fixed now at an acceptable rate. There is talk of 1 new zone and a dungeon this summer, but they are also talking about a whole expansion getting underway in that same time?
Sorry, those are misplaced priorities. Fix what was sold and deliver on what was promised and then maybe they can start thinking about new revenue streams. That isn't how things have progressed so far, so I doubt much will change.
Don't read me wrong, the concern in regard to resources is very much valid. I agree it's to much work to be done properly , I would hope they actually have outside help in the process. Most companies usually do , But who know's as of yet if FC has help or not.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yes they did. In the interview they mention things that they wanted to be in the game but couldnt get them done in time so they will more than likely be in the expansion.
"There's definitely a lot, there's a lot that we really wanted to get into the game, but because of time we just weren't able to put it in"
you are quoting out of context - what you quoted is not about the expansion
in most of the interview he is discussing summer and Fall plans from this newsletter
We know you folks were thinking of expansion content before the game came out. When do you expect you'll be able to put the launch behind you and step up to the new content, enjoy the live game?
I don't think that's ever going to happen. We're gonna keep on going really strongly. Updating the game, patching it, making it better. The road map we have internally is long into the future. We're definitely going to be patching and improving. We're of course working on an expansion, though we're not really ready to talk about that now. We do think it will launch early next year, though. We'll start leaking more information about that soon, though.
I was adding 2+2 and my math has been shown to be far better than anyones at FC
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When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
lol soo many agressive ppl here.. cmon its just a planning. altho i fully agree early 2009 is too soon
but hey lets just see what they have added to the game by than. if they only added as much content as in AO u wouldnt be able to keep up with it
but hey theres still more than enough ppl playing it, so who needs to get a clue? i think both haters and fans are right in their own ways/tastes...
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Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have to agree with people that are not to thrilled with Funcom talking about expansion packs already. To me that says they don't really care enough to put everyone on the live project to get it finished the way it should have been, but instead want more money.
This is drawing to many paralelles with SOE for me to be optomistic.
Well - Even Vanguard was not so stupid to talk about expansions when the game was bleeding bugs and content. Not to mention ppl leaving because of these issues.
Well, Age of Conan set for fast expansion, But an expansion to finish a unfinished game and they expect me to pay for that?. I've never seen an MMO releasing an expansion so early after the release of the game, It kinda sound like money milking. Beside early 2009?, more likely 2010 (Funcom are incapability to stick to deadlines)
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
Again - Mymir's pass is not the fix for even half of the huge problems the +55 content has atm. ITs a small area with few quests that is "due" in August. Just like the whole PVP system was due in June. Get it ? its all PR. OFC they will not say right now that the payed expansion is only the missing content in the orginal game. That will come l8ter when they have piled up enough stuff to say its to much to get into one big patch. When the patches in the 5 months before have not had any content updates. This is how the small companies do it. This is how Funcom does it.
Honestly every game is in this same place today with few exceptions. Sure it's easy to say the game isn't ready for an expansion , That's a given . However until they decide to give up on fixing the actual game , Its quite absurd to crticize them for doing so . I'm all for voicing concerns , Given those concerns are vaild . Which In the case of the OP they aren't (as of yet anyway )
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
Again - Mymir's pass is not the fix for even half of the huge problems the +55 content has atm. ITs a small area with few quests that is "due" in August. Just like the whole PVP system was due in June. Get it ? its all PR. OFC they will not say right now that the payed expansion is only the missing content in the orginal game. That will come l8ter when they have piled up enough stuff to say its to much to get into one big patch. When the patches in the 5 months before have not had any content updates. This is how the small companies do it. This is how Funcom does it.
I never said it was or wasn't PR hence why I gave two possibilities , Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check. My point is the information the op gave was false , Is there a problem with pointing that out?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
When part of the content in the new expansion is what was said to be in the orginal game then it becomes relevant to the first 50$. Next payd expansion should NOT have ANY part of content for the 1-80 lvling part. IT should NOT have DX10 feature finally added and it should NOT have siege battles, Player city features and finalised fully working PVP sytem with fugitive system and PVP items. ALL this is what was said to be in the game. THis is not in the game and I can promise you that most of the payed expansion content will cover this - instead of adding it in as free content patching.
LOTRO is a great example on how things have been done correctly in this matter. They gradually improved the features they said were in the game at launch. And they did it for free. Now the game is in the state of adding new payed for content. You know as well as me that AOC will NOT have the expected and promised launch content in the game in 5-9 months. Specially considering they are already more than one month behind on what they said would be in the game at this point.
There is a reason alot of ppl are slagging FUncom atm. And they have full right to do so. SOE is a GOD compared to what Funcom is up to. And its starting to shine through.
I just reread the article < They say a whole new zone is due in august . That may fill in some gaps possibly (possibly not)? It however said nothing at all about what was coming in the expansion , the only mention of it was at the end of the article , Everything else that was discussed was about Bug fixes coming over the next few months.
Critique is one thing (everyone has a right to do so) , making stuff up and speculation is completely different however.
Again - Mymir's pass is not the fix for even half of the huge problems the +55 content has atm. ITs a small area with few quests that is "due" in August. Just like the whole PVP system was due in June. Get it ? its all PR. OFC they will not say right now that the payed expansion is only the missing content in the orginal game. That will come l8ter when they have piled up enough stuff to say its to much to get into one big patch. When the patches in the 5 months before have not had any content updates. This is how the small companies do it. This is how Funcom does it.
I never said it was or wasn't PR hence why I gave two possibilities , Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check. My point is the information the op gave was false , Is there a problem with pointing that out?
False in what way ? http://www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
False in what way ? http://www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
comn on nobody is asking for anything extra first give us what we paid for and then talk about expansion
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False in what way ? http://www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
False in what way ? http://www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
You might have a point if I EVER said that , But I didn't .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'm not paying for nothing except to play Warhammer.
False in what way ? http://www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
You might have a point if I EVER said that , But I didn't .
"Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check." Is that not beeing neutral ?
You are a prime example of a fanboi losing so much ground due to the massive amount of screw-ups by Funcom the last 2 months, you just don't know what to say anymore to defend Funcom. Simply because there isn't anything left to defend LOL.
They promissed to add a jitload of new armor sets in MAY!! Part of the promissed 1500 armorsets that SHOULD have been in launch! Wake up call! : They added only 3 cloth sets with a patch
They promissed to add the PVP system in June! Wake up call!: They didn't!
You should pay more attention to the so called Newsletters from the Game Director, with all his promisses along the past few months. NONE being delivered so far!
So why you really think they going to do so now in August?
It's all PR, PR, PR, PR and more PR in a desperate attempt to keep hold on subscribers.
And then they have to guts to announce a PAID expansion already? Seriously. They can't dig a deeper hole under themselves right now
False in what way ? http://www.aocupdates.com/2008/07/16/age-of-conan-expansion-confirmed/
Its not me talking about the expansion launching early 2009 is it ? I just took a look at the game and posted what was blatantly obvious what this expansion would be about.
I believe its covered in this definition.
2 a: intentionally untrue <false testimony> b: adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom> c: intended or tending to mislead
Oh - this definition does nothing more than explain the PR from Funcom. You maybe understand now why ppl are calling them liars ? Untrue, Decevie, mislead.... Cause this is exactly what FC is doing.
I thought you were looking at things from a neutral point of view. Obviously not if you talk about my post beeing false - and at the same time saying statements from FC are not false - even when they have showed multiple times that they are misleading and directly deceving ppl - Telling things that are not true.
You might have a point if I EVER said that , But I didn't .
"Just keeping my optimistic or pessimistic feelings in check." Is that not beeing neutral ?
Now that would be something I said , if you can figure out what phrase In your last post I never said ,that you implied i did . I'll give you a C for effort.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You are a prime example of a fanboi losing so much ground due to the massive amount of screw-ups by Funcom the last 2 months, you just don't know what to say anymore to defend Funcom. Simply because there isn't anything left to defend LOL.
They promissed to add a jitload of new armor sets in MAY!! Part of the promissed 1500 armorsets that SHOULD have been in launch! Wake up call! : They added only 3 cloth sets with a patch
They promissed to add the PVP system in June! Wake up call!: They didn't!
You should pay more attention to the so called Newsletters from the Game Director, with all his promisses along the past few months. NONE being delivered so far!
So why you really think they going to do so now in August?
It's all PR, PR, PR, PR and more PR in a desperate attempt to keep hold on subscribers.
And then they have to guts to announce a PAID expansion already? Seriously. They can't dig a deeper hole under themselves right now
Really ? I haven't played in almost a month I wouldn't know.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I sure as hell will NOT be buying any pay expansion for this mess of a code.
AOC has some good elements but it's a bug filled bowl of bleh right now.
Customer service redifines bad to a whole new level. Worst ever that I've seen.
They are really dropping the ball. If this game was polished and relativly bug free it would be making millions more then it is.
SHOHADAKU
I agree , no money from me until I hear something good has happened within the game . Every patch has seen more and more outcry .
With that kind of track record it's hard to have faith that things will turn around anytime soon.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
that statement about "good launch" is BS. That's what customers expect, a "good launch", not a half-assed game. What "good launch" they are talking about?, that you can actually talk to a whore for your first quest and not able to skip that quest and continue your adventures without been forced to freaking play a single-player game? I thought this was a MMO.
Honestly every game is in this same place today with few exceptions. Sure it's easy to say the game isn't ready for an expansion , That's a given . However until they decide to give up on fixing the actual game , Its quite absurd to crticize them for doing so . I'm all for voicing concerns , Given those concerns are vaild . Which In the case of the OP they aren't (as of yet anyway )
What I am talking about is Funcom dedicating resources to making an expansion pack when the base game is in terrible shape. I don't for one second believe that Funcom is going to dedicate more resources to the live game when they have a full expansion pack planned to launch 6-8 months.
The two projects do not lend strength to each other and more than likely will make both efforts suffer. Things are not getting fixed now at an acceptable rate. There is talk of 1 new zone and a dungeon this summer, but they are also talking about a whole expansion getting underway in that same time?
Sorry, those are misplaced priorities. Fix what was sold and deliver on what was promised and then maybe they can start thinking about new revenue streams. That isn't how things have progressed so far, so I doubt much will change.
Honestly every game is in this same place today with few exceptions. Sure it's easy to say the game isn't ready for an expansion , That's a given . However until they decide to give up on fixing the actual game , Its quite absurd to crticize them for doing so . I'm all for voicing concerns , Given those concerns are vaild . Which In the case of the OP they aren't (as of yet anyway )
What I am talking about is Funcom dedicating resources to making an expansion pack when the base game is in terrible shape. I don't for one second believe that Funcom is going to dedicate more resources to the live game when they have a full expansion pack planned to launch 6-8 months.
The two projects do not lend strength to each other and more than likely will make both efforts suffer. Things are not getting fixed now at an acceptable rate. There is talk of 1 new zone and a dungeon this summer, but they are also talking about a whole expansion getting underway in that same time?
Sorry, those are misplaced priorities. Fix what was sold and deliver on what was promised and then maybe they can start thinking about new revenue streams. That isn't how things have progressed so far, so I doubt much will change.
Don't read me wrong, the concern in regard to resources is very much valid. I agree it's to much work to be done properly , I would hope they actually have outside help in the process. Most companies usually do , But who know's as of yet if FC has help or not.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
you are quoting out of context - what you quoted is not about the expansion
in most of the interview he is discussing summer and Fall plans from this newsletter
community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi
this is the only thing he said about the expansion - last question asked in in the interview
www.massively.com/2008/07/15/e308-erling-ellingsen-talks-patch-timeframes-for-age-of-conan/
We know you folks were thinking of expansion content before the game came out. When do you expect you'll be able to put the launch behind you and step up to the new content, enjoy the live game?
I don't think that's ever going to happen. We're gonna keep on going really strongly. Updating the game, patching it, making it better. The road map we have internally is long into the future. We're definitely going to be patching and improving. We're of course working on an expansion, though we're not really ready to talk about that now. We do think it will launch early next year, though. We'll start leaking more information about that soon, though.
I was adding 2+2 and my math has been shown to be far better than anyones at FC