I find it extremely odd that they're charging $3 for the download, but i wouldn't call it a deal breaker. I hope they refund that if you end up buying the game.
I find it extremely odd that they're charging $3 for the download, but i wouldn't call it a deal breaker. I hope they refund that if you end up buying the game.
rofl refund? Budd... I doubt they have enough cash to pay a fly to buzz around in their wallets...
Why else would they charge?
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Deto123
Originally posted by Artermis
Originally posted by Die_Scream
About the charge: if a 18+ year old is whining about paying $2,99/€2,99 then they need to get a job or something.
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Wait a minute. You get a buddy key and have to pay to use it if you don't have the discs? Seriously?? Holy crap, if that's the case, I'm floored. Never seen that before in any MMO.
$3.00 or $50.00 to try the game
pick your poison
And a torrent is the antidote.
Originally posted by Die_Scream
You still have to buy the box or a key online after the trial no?
Yep.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Deto123
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Cursedsei
wow, 7-10 days? Thats just enough from what Ive read to hit 80 and learn how barren the game is. But that only applies to people actually playing to hit 80 and know where and what to go and do, so the casual players, if they can play it, probably will hit 20-30 tops, and be suckered into buying it, nice one funcom :P
How will they be suckered?
You mean they might actually enjoy the game, are you scared that, this could be the case?
That i can assure you won t be the case for 80% of the keys. The game is that bad.
Forgive me, but I prefer to make my own mind up about a game. Imo there are more people in the game currently that have continued to sub than not. Since release I see the same amount of people everywhere I go, groups are not hard to find, and people are having fun.
So don't take it personally but your or anyone elses assurance, either way, isn't worth anything on first hand or close friend recommendation.
wow, 7-10 days? Thats just enough from what Ive read to hit 80 and learn how barren the game is. But that only applies to people actually playing to hit 80 and know where and what to go and do, so the casual players, if they can play it, probably will hit 20-30 tops, and be suckered into buying it, nice one funcom :P
How will they be suckered?
You mean they might actually enjoy the game, are you scared that, this could be the case?
That i can assure you won t be the case for 80% of the keys. The game is that bad.
Forgive me, but I prefer to make my own mind up about a game. Imo there are more people in the game currently that have continued to sub than not. Since release I see the same amount of people everywhere I go, groups are not hard to find, and people are having fun.
So don't take it personally but your or anyone elses assurance, either way, isn't worth anything on first hand or close friend recommendation.
Oh wow you can honestly say theres just as many people now as on release, you are dilusional. I re subbed myself to see if anything has changed, which some did(for the worse i might add) but one thing that i really noticed was a huge loss of players.
About the charge: if a 18+ year old is whining about paying $2,99/€2,99 then they need to get a job or something.
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Saves box cost by a lot.
Some people will bash it no matter what for a reason, it s a bad game. Why is that so hard for you to understand that some people hate the game. Just because you like it doesn t mean we all have to.
I was considering that, but don't you need a key to even install? You can get the client, but no crack with a torrent will work, since thousands get same file. Or is it the buddy key that replaces the key?
Good call Artermis, you may get two people to try the game and then not come here to flame anymore....maybe. What do I know?
Well actually, i believe that AoC is in a position to impress new players currently. In the past i believe the majority of complaints came from people who have no life and rushed head first to 80.
It's amazing how wrong you fanbois can be. I loved AoC at first then after it took almost 2 months to get to 80 which i took my time at with alt's etc i started hating the game. there is so much wrong with that POS. besides i don't think one could cover all the problems with AoC in a post. Anyway 3 guild mates from wow left before making it to 50, they hated it while i was telling them to give it a chance blah blah blah. another friend i recommended it to while i was fresh out of tortage quit after making a few toons. he never even left tortage, because he absolutely hated it.
Well this is exactly the reason buddy keys are ideal....what more can i say? About the charge: if a 18+ year old is whining about paying $2,99/2,99 then they need to get a job or something.
Its not about the money. this new trend with mmos is sickining. And i read almost every reply to this thread before replying. I am a veteran mmo player, i Have played every mmo, even the korean ones. I am beta testing most of the new ones as well, except aion.
What i am noticing is a lot of companys using that forked tongue crap. Pitching concepts in devolopment that they know damn well they cant create, and having unproductive betas and releasing unfinished clients. I was in age of conan alpha, followed it through all its phases, i Knew before it launched it wasnt ready, first Vanguard, hellgate london, now conan and from the interviews warhammer will probably follow that path as well.
The cost of the trial has nothing to do with this anger people have towards the idea.. its the fact that there is a COST! Maybe you have forgotten what a free trial is but free trials don't charge you for bandwidth usage, or restocking fees, or interest , pst, gst, tax , etc whatever name or explanation you want to give it. Do you know what kind of trials have charges, 30 day review periods from credit card telemarketers, I don't pay for trials for the same reason i dont pay fileplanet for those ridiculous beta head starts. You don't pay for beta, you don't pay for free trial keys. Its ridiculous and the fact that funcom said it should have people up in arms. You are a fool for trying to defend it.
So be it 5 bucks, 3 bucks, 2 bucks, 25 cents, you dont pay fo trials. And the thing is, paying for that trial is one fee, because i dont see anything on that statement that says you don't have to buy the original game as well which is another 50 bucks.
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AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Deto123
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Deto123
Originally posted by Artermis
Originally posted by Die_Scream
About the charge: if a 18+ year old is whining about paying $2,99/€2,99 then they need to get a job or something.
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Saves box cost by a lot.
Some people will bash it no matter what for a reason, it s a bad game. Why is that so hard for you to understand that some people hate the game. Just because you like it doesn t mean we all have to.
Funny you say that but the poster calling it a crapfest didnt give it a reason did they...
Cant you face it that some people here like the game, why is it so hard for you to comprehend people do like it. You can hate on it all you like, fact is my server is nicely populated and people are having a good time amongst all the bugs and crap that happens.
I am not trying to make anyone like it. People bashing the game are trying to make people not play it to make themselves feel better about their choice in the matter.
You see even you say its a bad game and fail. Fail to say why and might I add in you own opinion.
So that makes two troll who are just saying its bad for the sake of it.
About the charge: if a 18+ year old is whining about paying $2,99/€2,99 then they need to get a job or something.
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Saves box cost by a lot.
Some people will bash it no matter what for a reason, it s a bad game. Why is that so hard for you to understand that some people hate the game. Just because you like it doesn t mean we all have to.
Funny you say that but the poster calling it a crapfest didnt give it a reason did they...
Cant you face it that some people here like the game, why is it so hard for you to comprehend people do like it. You can hate on it all you like, fact is my server is nicely populated and people are having a good time amongst all the bugs and crap that happens.
I am not trying to make anyone like it. People bashing the game are trying to make people not play it to make themselves feel better about their choice in the matter.
You see even you say its a bad game and fail. Fail to say why and might I add in you own opinion.
So that makes two troll who are just saying its bad for the sake of it.
Not trying to make my decision of cancelling any better by saying anything. What i will say is the game isn t as populated as it was on releae, you did. I never said it s fail you just assumed i did. I could care less you like it and it s not hard for me to understand you do. What your constant bantering back is that you can t understand that i don t like it and yu re trying to convince me otherwise. With that i can say you won t, and i ll stand by it this game is a terrible excuse for a MMO. It s my opinion yes you re right but it s how i feel and i can assure you many do.
btw nobody from mmorpg.com contact me for a buddy key, i have people more worthy of mine Fucking trolls should be banned.
Yeah I hated the idea and what was promised from AoC so much that I spent $90 on the collectors edition plus $80 for 2 more gb of ram plus $5 for the early access. it s not our fault Funcom failed to deliver and that Funcom continues to FUbar the game further with each patch and that they delete threads and Ban those on THEIR forumswho dare to complain.
So if I go to their site I won't see a single post about bugs , Or other in game issues?
Whats up malickie?Its Zep/Korlen.If you need a buddy key let me know i have one...
Yo I'm good bro , You on Deathwhisper? I'll probably be back in august , Pm me your game info.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
AoC is not unusual, It's a still young MMO with a myriad of problems..but it is worse than most anticipated games because FC have consistently made it worse with the updates. Obviously, this is my opinion.
The problem isn't even so much the game, its the ham-fisted untested "fixes" they keep dropping. Now, I can easily overlook a "oops, my bad broke this trying to fix that, hot fix incoming". FC broke the game worse and worse instead of improving it, then rubs salt and iodine in the wounds by refusing to even acknowledge they had paying customers, or problems. They release patches that break the game worse, then have the head cheese release a letter spinning "boxes shipped" and how great everything is. Zero honest communication.
There are three companies I trust for quality, the game might not be to my liking, but they are quality. Turbine, Blizzard, and NCSoft. These can be debated, but are miles better than FC IMO.
AoC is not unusual, It's a still young MMO with a myriad of problems..but it is worse than most anticipated games because FC have consistently made it worse with the updates. Obviously, this is my opinion. The problem isn't even so much the game, its the ham-fisted untested "fixes" they keep dropping. Now, I can easily overlook a "oops, my bad broke this trying to fix that, hot fix incoming". FC broke the game worse and worse instead of improving it, then rubs salt and iodine in the wounds by refusing to even acknowledge they had paying customers, or problems. They release patches that break the game worse, then have the head cheese release a letter spinning "boxes shipped" and how great everything is. Zero honest communication. There are three companies I trust for quality, the game might not be to my liking, but they are quality. Turbine, Blizzard, and NCSoft. These can be debated, but are miles better than FC IMO.
For me it wasn't flaws or patch related bugs that arose. I dealt with all that before , I guess you could say I'm desensitized to it . Looks like they've read the SOE manual on PR and spin , Again something I've dealt with before though.
I mainly left due to everyone saying once you hit 60 everything dries up , And the lack of a pvp rule set .I'll probably give it another shot around the end of summer early fall .
I do find it interesting you consider PR spin as communication though . I've seen quite a few posts on the oboards from Mods chronicling Bugs/fixes, general help in setting up your client ,etc...
They've admitted they have memory leaks , And general stability problems of endgame systems.(Just because they don't announce these issues in every official statement ,dosen't mean they are ignoring them).They've acknowledged a lack of mid level content , Honestly I don't know an issue that's going on that hasn't been acknowledged by support.
These complaints really never made sense to me (i've seen them in every game I've played). What exatly is the communication players expect , outside of acknowledging the problem and trying to explain the sollution they are working on? If something takes time to fix , What else can you do besides wait or quit? Make up witty slogans like FAILCOM ?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
pretty sad that we are even using language like this. %100 free trial is like saying "this light switch is 97% on."
heh I'm sure common sense will prevail and everyone will see that they are charging 3 dollars for however many days the trial will last. that IS a very good indication of their desperation for new subs and some more fast cash.
I was considering that, but don't you need a key to even install? You can get the client, but no crack with a torrent will work, since thousands get same file. Or is it the buddy key that replaces the key?
Does anyone doubt they will include people who registered under a buddy key, but don't purchase the game, in the next PR buzz of "XXX,XXX AoC accounts have been created so far, showing the game continues to grow at a fast rate..."?
Does anyone doubt they will include people who registered under a buddy key, but don't purchase the game, in the next PR buzz of "XXX,XXX AoC accounts have been created so far, showing the game continues to grow at a fast rate..."? Another opportunity to fudge their numbers...
As long as people have fun and play it because they like it, i dont care
If you can look at this with some "Funcom" logic perhaps it will make more sense. The said keys are to be given to your "buddy", hence the name "buddy key." No where in their announcement do they say anything about a "Free Trial". That being said it would be fair to assume that "Funcom" expects you to, at the very least, know the person you are giving your key to. You know, it's your "Buddy." Someone you would feel comfortable loaning your disks to even if you had to mail them for a week or so,"your buddy."
Now, if it's not your buddy and your just giving out a free trial, Funcom wants a piece of it, $3 to be exact. This is how Funcom thinks ........ anyone here that is suprised should check out Funcom a little better. This is the kind of stuff that they do. Period.
You know, I no longer dislike AoC. Pretty indifferent about the game in general. I was in the Beta program and saw nothing that impressed me enough to buy it. I'm sure it will eventually straighten itself out.
Funcom on the other hand, tops my list of "Shit" companies. If I saw Gaute in public I would really have to hold back walking up to him, whipping out my shit, and pissing on him. No, really ....... pissing right down the side of his leg. I'm sure I would catch a charge and it wouldn't look good on a resume', but, the thoughts would be there. Funcom is the "SHIT COMPANY" in the MMO world.
Wow, don't believe I actually typed that in. I do realise the vulgarity of the above statement and would like to apologize to anyone offended. That is just exactly how I feel about "Funcom." See, I've got this lying thing ....... especially when someone lies for financial gain .......really irks me.
Does anyone doubt they will include people who registered under a buddy key, but don't purchase the game, in the next PR buzz of "XXX,XXX AoC accounts have been created so far, showing the game continues to grow at a fast rate..."? Another opportunity to fudge their numbers...
I think the only folks buying into FC's press releases at this point are the hardcore fanbois pa-trolling the forums, and those folks never actually seem to step foot in the game. I think the great Protus himself proved beyond a doubt he doesnt actually play MMOs when he deleted all his toons in a huff over teh issue of Bind on Equip, shortly after he found out he had no clue what BoE entailed.
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I find it extremely odd that they're charging $3 for the download, but i wouldn't call it a deal breaker. I hope they refund that if you end up buying the game.
rofl refund? Budd... I doubt they have enough cash to pay a fly to buzz around in their wallets...
Why else would they charge?
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Saves box cost by a lot.
You still have to buy the box or a key online after the trial no?
This is the first time I've ever heard of a company charging people to play a trial. Sort of defeats the purpose.
Truly sickening to me how FC is running this game.
$3.00 or $50.00 to try the game
pick your poison
And a torrent is the antidote.
Yep.
How will they be suckered?
You mean they might actually enjoy the game, are you scared that, this could be the case?
That i can assure you won t be the case for 80% of the keys. The game is that bad.
Forgive me, but I prefer to make my own mind up about a game. Imo there are more people in the game currently that have continued to sub than not. Since release I see the same amount of people everywhere I go, groups are not hard to find, and people are having fun.
So don't take it personally but your or anyone elses assurance, either way, isn't worth anything on first hand or close friend recommendation.
How will they be suckered?
You mean they might actually enjoy the game, are you scared that, this could be the case?
That i can assure you won t be the case for 80% of the keys. The game is that bad.
Forgive me, but I prefer to make my own mind up about a game. Imo there are more people in the game currently that have continued to sub than not. Since release I see the same amount of people everywhere I go, groups are not hard to find, and people are having fun.
So don't take it personally but your or anyone elses assurance, either way, isn't worth anything on first hand or close friend recommendation.
Oh wow you can honestly say theres just as many people now as on release, you are dilusional. I re subbed myself to see if anything has changed, which some did(for the worse i might add) but one thing that i really noticed was a huge loss of players.
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Saves box cost by a lot.
Some people will bash it no matter what for a reason, it s a bad game. Why is that so hard for you to understand that some people hate the game. Just because you like it doesn t mean we all have to.
aoc...the first game to CHARGE you for a buddy pass lol...gotta love it
I was considering that, but don't you need a key to even install? You can get the client, but no crack with a torrent will work, since thousands get same file. Or is it the buddy key that replaces the key?
Its not about the money. this new trend with mmos is sickining. And i read almost every reply to this thread before replying. I am a veteran mmo player, i Have played every mmo, even the korean ones. I am beta testing most of the new ones as well, except aion.
What i am noticing is a lot of companys using that forked tongue crap. Pitching concepts in devolopment that they know damn well they cant create, and having unproductive betas and releasing unfinished clients. I was in age of conan alpha, followed it through all its phases, i Knew before it launched it wasnt ready, first Vanguard, hellgate london, now conan and from the interviews warhammer will probably follow that path as well.
The cost of the trial has nothing to do with this anger people have towards the idea.. its the fact that there is a COST! Maybe you have forgotten what a free trial is but free trials don't charge you for bandwidth usage, or restocking fees, or interest , pst, gst, tax , etc whatever name or explanation you want to give it. Do you know what kind of trials have charges, 30 day review periods from credit card telemarketers,
I don't pay for trials for the same reason i dont pay fileplanet for those ridiculous beta head starts. You don't pay for beta, you don't pay for free trial keys. Its ridiculous and the fact that funcom said it should have people up in arms. You are a fool for trying to defend it.
So be it 5 bucks, 3 bucks, 2 bucks, 25 cents, you dont pay fo trials. And the thing is, paying for that trial is one fee, because i dont see anything on that statement that says you don't have to buy the original game as well which is another 50 bucks.
Quotations Those Who make peaceful resolutions impossible, make violent resolutions inevitable. John F. Kennedy
Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman
Lie to no one. If there 's somebody close to you, you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, who the fuck are they you gotta lie to them? - Willy Nelson
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Saves box cost by a lot.
Some people will bash it no matter what for a reason, it s a bad game. Why is that so hard for you to understand that some people hate the game. Just because you like it doesn t mean we all have to.
Funny you say that but the poster calling it a crapfest didnt give it a reason did they...
Cant you face it that some people here like the game, why is it so hard for you to comprehend people do like it. You can hate on it all you like, fact is my server is nicely populated and people are having a good time amongst all the bugs and crap that happens.
I am not trying to make anyone like it. People bashing the game are trying to make people not play it to make themselves feel better about their choice in the matter.
You see even you say its a bad game and fail. Fail to say why and might I add in you own opinion.
So that makes two troll who are just saying its bad for the sake of it.
Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.
Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.
Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.
Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.
Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.
Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.
Saves box cost by a lot.
Some people will bash it no matter what for a reason, it s a bad game. Why is that so hard for you to understand that some people hate the game. Just because you like it doesn t mean we all have to.
Funny you say that but the poster calling it a crapfest didnt give it a reason did they...
Cant you face it that some people here like the game, why is it so hard for you to comprehend people do like it. You can hate on it all you like, fact is my server is nicely populated and people are having a good time amongst all the bugs and crap that happens.
I am not trying to make anyone like it. People bashing the game are trying to make people not play it to make themselves feel better about their choice in the matter.
You see even you say its a bad game and fail. Fail to say why and might I add in you own opinion.
So that makes two troll who are just saying its bad for the sake of it.
Not trying to make my decision of cancelling any better by saying anything. What i will say is the game isn t as populated as it was on releae, you did. I never said it s fail you just assumed i did. I could care less you like it and it s not hard for me to understand you do. What your constant bantering back is that you can t understand that i don t like it and yu re trying to convince me otherwise. With that i can say you won t, and i ll stand by it this game is a terrible excuse for a MMO. It s my opinion yes you re right but it s how i feel and i can assure you many do.
Yeah I hated the idea and what was promised from AoC so much that I spent $90 on the collectors edition plus $80 for 2 more gb of ram plus $5 for the early access. it s not our fault Funcom failed to deliver and that Funcom continues to FUbar the game further with each patch and that they delete threads and Ban those on THEIR forumswho dare to complain.
So if I go to their site I won't see a single post about bugs , Or other in game issues?
Whats up malickie?Its Zep/Korlen.If you need a buddy key let me know i have one...
Yo I'm good bro , You on Deathwhisper? I'll probably be back in august , Pm me your game info.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
AoC is not unusual, It's a still young MMO with a myriad of problems..but it is worse than most anticipated games because FC have consistently made it worse with the updates. Obviously, this is my opinion.
The problem isn't even so much the game, its the ham-fisted untested "fixes" they keep dropping. Now, I can easily overlook a "oops, my bad broke this trying to fix that, hot fix incoming". FC broke the game worse and worse instead of improving it, then rubs salt and iodine in the wounds by refusing to even acknowledge they had paying customers, or problems. They release patches that break the game worse, then have the head cheese release a letter spinning "boxes shipped" and how great everything is. Zero honest communication.
There are three companies I trust for quality, the game might not be to my liking, but they are quality. Turbine, Blizzard, and NCSoft. These can be debated, but are miles better than FC IMO.
For me it wasn't flaws or patch related bugs that arose. I dealt with all that before , I guess you could say I'm desensitized to it . Looks like they've read the SOE manual on PR and spin , Again something I've dealt with before though.
I mainly left due to everyone saying once you hit 60 everything dries up , And the lack of a pvp rule set .I'll probably give it another shot around the end of summer early fall .
I do find it interesting you consider PR spin as communication though . I've seen quite a few posts on the oboards from Mods chronicling Bugs/fixes, general help in setting up your client ,etc...
They've admitted they have memory leaks , And general stability problems of endgame systems.(Just because they don't announce these issues in every official statement ,dosen't mean they are ignoring them).They've acknowledged a lack of mid level content , Honestly I don't know an issue that's going on that hasn't been acknowledged by support.
These complaints really never made sense to me (i've seen them in every game I've played). What exatly is the communication players expect , outside of acknowledging the problem and trying to explain the sollution they are working on? If something takes time to fix , What else can you do besides wait or quit? Make up witty slogans like FAILCOM ?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
pretty sad that we are even using language like this. %100 free trial is like saying "this light switch is 97% on."
heh I'm sure common sense will prevail and everyone will see that they are charging 3 dollars for however many days the trial will last. that IS a very good indication of their desperation for new subs and some more fast cash.
If someone can give me a buddykey it would be really nice,i really wanna try this game.
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I was considering that, but don't you need a key to even install? You can get the client, but no crack with a torrent will work, since thousands get same file. Or is it the buddy key that replaces the key?
Use the buddy key once you have the client.
Does anyone doubt they will include people who registered under a buddy key, but don't purchase the game, in the next PR buzz of "XXX,XXX AoC accounts have been created so far, showing the game continues to grow at a fast rate..."?
Another opportunity to fudge their numbers...
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If you want to get back at someone, give them an AoC buddy key. That'll teach em to mess with you!
As long as people have fun and play it because they like it, i dont care
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If you can look at this with some "Funcom" logic perhaps it will make more sense. The said keys are to be given to your "buddy", hence the name "buddy key." No where in their announcement do they say anything about a "Free Trial". That being said it would be fair to assume that "Funcom" expects you to, at the very least, know the person you are giving your key to. You know, it's your "Buddy." Someone you would feel comfortable loaning your disks to even if you had to mail them for a week or so,"your buddy."
Now, if it's not your buddy and your just giving out a free trial, Funcom wants a piece of it, $3 to be exact. This is how Funcom thinks ........ anyone here that is suprised should check out Funcom a little better. This is the kind of stuff that they do. Period.
You know, I no longer dislike AoC. Pretty indifferent about the game in general. I was in the Beta program and saw nothing that impressed me enough to buy it. I'm sure it will eventually straighten itself out.
Funcom on the other hand, tops my list of "Shit" companies. If I saw Gaute in public I would really have to hold back walking up to him, whipping out my shit, and pissing on him. No, really ....... pissing right down the side of his leg. I'm sure I would catch a charge and it wouldn't look good on a resume', but, the thoughts would be there. Funcom is the "SHIT COMPANY" in the MMO world.
Wow, don't believe I actually typed that in. I do realise the vulgarity of the above statement and would like to apologize to anyone offended. That is just exactly how I feel about "Funcom." See, I've got this lying thing ....... especially when someone lies for financial gain .......really irks me.
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I think the only folks buying into FC's press releases at this point are the hardcore fanbois pa-trolling the forums, and those folks never actually seem to step foot in the game. I think the great Protus himself proved beyond a doubt he doesnt actually play MMOs when he deleted all his toons in a huff over teh issue of Bind on Equip, shortly after he found out he had no clue what BoE entailed.