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  • dennedenne Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by Bodeus


    3$ for 10 day trial is crazy. Funcom are nothing but scam artists.

     

    Damn! Are u crazy!? Sitting on a online forum bitching about $3 !????!?!?!? God damn! It cost more than that to get to work every day! You cant even get a beer for that! Not even a pack of cigarettes!

    Im sick of you whiners.

  • SlytheSlythe Member UncommonPosts: 952

    1. Make your customers wait 2 months to be able to even use the buddy keys.

    2. Charge 3 bucks to download the client (btw, something I have never seen another company do before.) -->Insert obligatory "OMG it's only 3 bucks!", "Dude if 3 bucks is a lot to you then you shouldn't be playing games.", "QQ more" comments here. <---

    3. Profit?

    Seriously, this thread says it all. As long as Funcom has morons like these to keep on buying their crap, they will never learn.

    http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=141527

  • dennedenne Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by Slythe


    2. Charge 3 bucks to download the client (btw, something I have never seen another company do before.) -->Insert obligatory "OMG it's only 3 bucks!", "Dude if 3 bucks is a lot to you then you shouldn't be playing games.", "QQ more" comments here. <---

     

    But come on. I gave the begger on the street more than $3 this morning.

    But maybe todays brat kids are not used to pay for things anymore...

  • DraccanDraccan Member Posts: 1,050
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery

    Originally posted by Deto123

    Originally posted by Artermis

    Originally posted by Die_Scream




    About the charge: if a 18+ year old is whining about paying $2,99/€2,99 then they need to get a job or something.

     

    Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.

    Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.

    Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.



     

    Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.

     

    Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.

    Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.

    Saves box cost by a lot.

     

    Well I still feel majorly cheated with the CE box. I expected buddy keys. Not a couple of months after but at launch. They should have been upfront and honest about this (and much much other stuff).

    There is no way I would want to use my buddy keys now and I don't play. And Avery it is pretty sick they ask people in a globalized world to use your cd's. Where did it say that when they accepted preorders; that the buddy keys could only be used with the CDs? And now they want to charge for a download?

    This company is run by douchebags. Oh and liars.

    And you know it.

     

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  • SlytheSlythe Member UncommonPosts: 952
    Originally posted by denne

    Originally posted by Slythe


    2. Charge 3 bucks to download the client (btw, something I have never seen another company do before.) -->Insert obligatory "OMG it's only 3 bucks!", "Dude if 3 bucks is a lot to you then you shouldn't be playing games.", "QQ more" comments here. <---

     

    But come on. I gave the begger on the street more than $3 this morning.

    But maybe todays brat kids are not used to pay for things anymore...

     

    While I can understand what you're saying, it's not the amount of money that is the issue. It's the fact that they are actually charging people to download from them. Maybe if they didn't have to make the download 12 or 13 GB they wouldn't have had to charge for it.

    Or maybe it's different in Norway. Maybe they pay a LOT of money to host servers there. I dunno. But it's pretty lame to actually charge people to try out your game, you have to admit.

  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005

    Lol how low can you go, pay for a trial haha, I honestly dont know whats the sadest thing Funcom charging to trial their piece of crap or Avery trying to damage control with "its your biggest MMO in your hard drive, it costs money", we really had a laugh here at the office when you posted the Cab - Bus analogy, thats some hardcore dedication man, in all honesty you could do some good PR work for a games company i think you have the talent, and i actually mean it.

    Avery if you do not work for Funcom, they seriously owe you some money.

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    As far as I know Funcom is the first company to charge a download fee for a free trial. I remember SOE charged for SWG beta disks but I think they even learned their lesson and that was the last time they tried that crap

    Looks like Funcom is really getting desperate now that box sales have dropped off and subscriptions are going down the toilet.  I guess they have to nickel and dime now to try and keep afloat. I wonder if  in a couple of months they will be instigating in game item sales, or maybe the players will be seeing coca cola ads on the walls of the cantinas.

    I miss DAoC

  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685

    First Early Access fee?  Now a buddy key fee?  Funcom really takes "nickel & diming" to a whole new level.  I'd rather just burn my buddy keys and chant some voodoo curse to bring Funcom down. 

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Draccan

    Originally posted by AmazingAvery

    Originally posted by Deto123

    Originally posted by Artermis

    Originally posted by Die_Scream




    About the charge: if a 18+ year old is whining about paying $2,99/€2,99 then they need to get a job or something.

     

    Don't be a fool. No one is complaining about the cost, it's that FC are charging people for a "free" trial, unlike any MMO I'm aware of. It's not like AoC is getting good word of mouth either, this just adds fuel to the fire.

    Stop generalizing differing opinions childishly and realize that charging people to play a trial is greedy, and not with general precedent. For a game on shaky legs, charging people to trial after they charged the original purchaser what? 90 bucks for the CE? C'mon.

    Well i dont see it as greedy, theyre recouping download costs. Dont like it, dont pay it. Theyre giving people a low cost option to try the game, thats good. Yeah it would be better free but i wouldnt bust a bloodvein over it. Just because i dont see it as a big deal im looking at it childishly? ah well.



     

    Some people will defend this game no matter what. It s a trial there shouldn t be a cost at all. Just shows anyone who s considering this crapfest of a game to not play it because this is the beginning of you getting scamed even more down the road.

     

    Nearly as much of a scam for paying for a lifetime sub and not being able to cancel when things go bad and you want out.

    Some people will bash this game no matter what, any negative angle that can be taken they will take it for the sake of it. obviously people are still subbing, and people are willing to pay $3 to try it out for a week.

    Saves box cost by a lot.

     

    Well I still feel majorly cheated with the CE box. I expected buddy keys. Not a couple of months after but at launch. They should have been upfront and honest about this (and much much other stuff).

    There is no way I would want to use my buddy keys now and I don't play. And Avery it is pretty sick they ask people in a globalized world to use your cd's. Where did it say that when they accepted preorders; that the buddy keys could only be used with the CDs? And now they want to charge for a download?

    This company is run by douchebags. Oh and liars.

    And you know it.

     



     

    QFT, in fact if I ever had to pick a moment in my life where the term QFT was the most appropriate and applicable, this is it.

  • grunt187grunt187 Member CommonPosts: 956

    well if its that bad then not one person will ask for my or anyone else buddy key right?

    we will see how long that lasts

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  • dennedenne Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by observer


    First Early Access fee?  Now a buddy key fee?  Funcom really takes "nickel & diming" to a whole new level.  I'd rather just burn my buddy keys and chant some voodoo curse to bring Funcom down. 

     

    Why would it be so strange to pay a fee for early access?

    Its that way all over, every time you want to be the first one you have to pay a little extra. Just look at what the first people paid for their ps3, iphone, xbox360 or the latest videocard. Thats the early adopters, it has always been like that. They always get less for their money, but always cutting edge.

  • courtsdadcourtsdad Member Posts: 326
    Originally posted by Artermis

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by Bodeus

    Originally posted by Artermis


    btw nobody from mmorpg.com contact me for a buddy key, i have people more worthy of mine ;) Fucking trolls should be banned.

     

    Yeah I hated the idea and what was promised from AoC so much that I spent $90 on the collectors edition plus $80 for 2 more gb of ram plus $5 for the early access. it s not our fault Funcom failed to deliver and that Funcom continues to FUbar the game further with each patch and that they delete threads and Ban those  on THEIR forumswho dare to complain.

     

    So if I go to their site I won't see a single post about bugs , Or other in game issues?

     

    Theres issues sure, majority have been fixed imo. Even the memory leaks patch fix is tomorrow. I believe there is still some siege issues but theyre been solved too.

    Personally i had no major problems from lvl 1 to 76. Even customer support has now got things together, raised 2 tickets about minor things and BOTH answered within minutes, nearly fell off my chair ;P

    Difference between people like me is that I have played mmos from launch before, and yes i know they should be 100 percent polished and no problems but that is not how mmos work. They need time to mature like wow has. Anyway im having a blast.

    if someone really does want a key and give this game a go, then PM then, ill be checking your history for unneeded hate :P Constructive critism is great, obviously. Although you best be 18+ or ill send the guys around to kneecap. Ill keep 3 keys for my friends but willing then to give 2 out to mmorpg.com users



     

    Soooooooo you think the reason you have stuck around is because you "have played mmo's from launch before"   I am guessing..... now its just a guess, that at a site called mmorpg.com that there are quite a few here that have played other mmos from launch and that theres a reason that they are not satisfied. Their standards didnt suddenly change.

  • dennedenne Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by Slythe

    Originally posted by denne

    Originally posted by Slythe


    2. Charge 3 bucks to download the client (btw, something I have never seen another company do before.) -->Insert obligatory "OMG it's only 3 bucks!", "Dude if 3 bucks is a lot to you then you shouldn't be playing games.", "QQ more" comments here. <---

     

    But come on. I gave the begger on the street more than $3 this morning.

    But maybe todays brat kids are not used to pay for things anymore...

     

    While I can understand what you're saying, it's not the amount of money that is the issue. It's the fact that they are actually charging people to download from them. Maybe if they didn't have to make the download 12 or 13 GB they wouldn't have had to charge for it.

    Or maybe it's different in Norway. Maybe they pay a LOT of money to host servers there. I dunno. But it's pretty lame to actually charge people to try out your game, you have to admit.

     

    I dont think they charge this download fee just because they need the money that bad.

    I think this is the standard price vs. demand. There is a demand, and they can make some money on it. And if you really want a bad example of download fees. Just look at mobile industry, what you pay for the small shitty applications and games to cellphones. My collegue just spent $5 on a piano emulator for his iPhone!? I think I had one of those on my C64 in the 80's and now they sell them for money on apple app store?

  • courtsdadcourtsdad Member Posts: 326
    Originally posted by fiontar


    Does anyone doubt they will include people who registered under a buddy key, but don't purchase the game, in the next PR buzz of "XXX,XXX AoC accounts have been created so far, showing the game continues to grow at a fast rate..."?
    Another opportunity to fudge their numbers...



     

    Thata perfect way to scam shareholders with false numbers. SOE was famous for doing that agter the CU and NGE. Release a free trial ( that actually was free) and then brag about the numbers

     

    Well done sir.

  • courtsdadcourtsdad Member Posts: 326
    Originally posted by Slythe


    1. Make your customers wait 2 months to be able to even use the buddy keys.
    2. Charge 3 bucks to download the client (btw, something I have never seen another company do before.) -->Insert obligatory "OMG it's only 3 bucks!", "Dude if 3 bucks is a lot to you then you shouldn't be playing games.", "QQ more" comments here. <---
    3. Rolling around in piles of money laughing because people actually paid for a buddy key...priceless
    Seriously, this thread says it all. As long as Funcom has morons like these to keep on buying their crap, they will never learn.
    http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=141527



     

    Sorry made a change. Does make for a great credit car commercial though

  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994
    Originally posted by fiontar


    Does anyone doubt they will include people who registered under a buddy key, but don't purchase the game, in the next PR buzz of "XXX,XXX AoC accounts have been created so far, showing the game continues to grow at a fast rate..."?
    Another opportunity to fudge their numbers...



     

    I very carefully read all of the posts here and grumbled when I read this. I thought i was going to be the first to point it out. In general, $3 time X number of trial accounts means nothing (sure I'd like 1.5 million or so but for a gaming company even if they get that much, it means little). It does allow them to make an announcement as to the percentage of growth in paying customers.. PAYING ming you, not the standard 'we have X number of accounts....' when everyone knows that a sizable number of them are canceled or trials awaiting cancellation. This is a generally well thought out PR job akin to the bait and switch of carefully doctored books going to the 3rd party accountants.

    Personally, I'm disappointed they waited as long as they did to add buddy keys in. I recognize that if they have allowed them in the beginning, a lot of their paying customer base never would have manifested but even so, it's just one more in a long line of less than savory expectations for this game.

    As far as the current player base, no one outside the organization knows and therefor I won't speculate. That last 'number' bruted about was 700K but everyone knows that was accounts since the game opened. I am sure it counted all active accounts but think it's also likely that it counts all the account which have singed up and failed to re-sub. Just saying 'my server has a healthy population' means nothing. There are no factual numbers and given the fact that some servers (say PvP ones) tend to get a somewhat greater backwash of players (no offense to PVP'r with the 'backwash' term) any given server might have a greater number players.

    Anyways, I hope anyone who is enjoying this game continues to do so. I didn't care for it, but I bought it 'of free will with both sound mind (wife might disagree) and sound body' and so I am ultimately responsible (though I to this day remain amazed at some of the stuff they allowed to go through QA/QC for such a large name title).

  • UgaritUgarit Member Posts: 213

    Fc, i 'll never pay for your games again.



    I'll play on AO:  free account. FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

     

    Beta testing : payment

    Early access: payment

    CE: no buddy keys , music: available now on Itunes,etc

    No end game

    game full of bugs

    and now payment for buddy keys ?

    It's a joke

    Let's play Wow, Eq, EQ2, VG, DAOC, Lotro, POTBS, COV/COH, GW, LII, SWG etc etc etc.... I won't pay a CT for your games again FC, I WON'T PAY A CENT AGAIN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? i'ts OVER.

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    AOC rating hype

    - 1st rank at launch (may 2008)

    - NOW (july 2008, 2 months after) 42th rank.



    A disaster. They need money.

    Hasta la vista baby. 

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051

    I dont get this? i brought the box set and 2 weeks ago set my son up with the buddy key to see if he wanted the game. i didnt have to pay a penny? so where do we get charged for it?

    And the fee for the download? wasn't that the company running the downloads charging and not FC? i might be getting confused on this one but i 100% didnt get charged for my buddy key. Maybe it's different in England?

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by shukes33


    I dont get this? i brought the box set and 2 weeks ago set my son up with the buddy key to see if he wanted the game. i didnt have to pay a penny? so where do we get charged for it?
    And the fee for the download? wasn't that the company running the downloads charging and not FC? i might be getting confused on this one but i 100% didnt get charged for my buddy key. Maybe it's different in England?

    Buddy keys did not work until *yesterday* -- and only for people who own the Collectors Edition

     

    there is no fee if you use the box CDs

  • dennedenne Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by Ugarit



    Hasta la vista baby. 

     

    byebye, we wont miss you.

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by Nadia

    Originally posted by shukes33


    I dont get this? i brought the box set and 2 weeks ago set my son up with the buddy key to see if he wanted the game. i didnt have to pay a penny? so where do we get charged for it?
    And the fee for the download? wasn't that the company running the downloads charging and not FC? i might be getting confused on this one but i 100% didnt get charged for my buddy key. Maybe it's different in England?

    Buddy keys did not work until *yesterday* -- and only for people who own the Collectors Edition

     

    there is no fee if you use the box CDs



     

    Ahh i see so only the collectors edition buddy keys didnt work?

    EDIT. oops i do aplogise i was actually setting up his account for vanguard with my buddy key lol. so actually nothing to do with AoC. sitting here slightly embarassed :)

  • DkevlarDkevlar Member Posts: 308

    I would have np paying $3 to download - i normally give $10 as tip to cab drivers. My problem arises from the fact no other MMO/company asked me to pay  to download their free trial. SOE asked something for SWG in the past but hey, if i recall well, they at least sent the disks... physical disks.... SO what makes FC ask for $?

    It is not they have a perfect product where the simple chance to test it should be subject to payment. Server cost? Sorry.... all others have to deal with the cost...

    Not that i need to pay to download anything tho, I actually was DUMB enough to purchase the game....

  • shukes33shukes33 Member Posts: 1,051

    Are we sure it's FC and not an independent company charging for the downloads?

    i seem to recall the begining when Ao was first released and then it wasnt FC at all and people even provided evidence that FC were not even making a penny from those charges. Has this changed it is it the same thing reopened again? i'm not arguing the case either way btw, i dont really care just want to make sure what i think i am undersatnding is right :)

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by shukes33


    Are we sure it's FC and not an independent company charging for the downloads?

    put this another way

    you must borrow your friends DVD to take advantage of Buddy keys  (which I disagree with)

     

    but you also have option to download instead if you want to pay a small fee (regardless of whos charging)

  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888
    Originally posted by Die_Scream


    Wait a minute. You get a buddy key and have to pay to use it if you don't have the discs? Seriously??
    Holy crap, if that's the case, I'm floored. Never seen that before in any MMO.

     

    Funcom continues to push the envelope with new, exciting innovations to the MMO industry!

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    Ethion

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