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Will SoE ever be forgiven for the NGE?
deckatre
Member Posts: 77
This probably is old news, but as of today you still have the mass of haters of SoE for SWG.
Now lets just get everything straight here SoE created SWG an amazing game way back in pre CU and CU. Of course though every game has it's whinners and people whined about the game like why are jedi so powerful or we want to be jedi! or all that crap about jedi. So what did SoE do, they actually listened to their customers who were whinning and created the NGE right? well the people who worked hard as hell in swg pre CU and CU were screwed. Of course NGE wanted to give them something for their hard work l=so they gave them vet rewards, elder cloak and a title, but that wasn't enough for some of the elders, ya of course almost everyone missed pre CU and CU but there were some elders who were uterly pissed( do you blame them?)
So now SoE has this game called SWG right? still full of bugs and on the other hand they have a huge mass of people quit the game, others just hating and hating on them and they have a choice to make, we either try and get those customers to come back by adding more content or we work on the bugs and risk losing even more people because they're busy working on the games bugs and not the content. Well they probably needed the money of the customers so they can continue the game so they went to the customers. They added content on the game and have been trying to increase they're player base ever since. Ya, they've gotten some the player base back but they still have a game full of bugs. So SoE is pretty much screwed.
Now if it was up to me I would open up two types of servers, a CU and a current one. SoE has been working on SWG though and they have made it a little better but lots of people just aren't satisfied with what they have been doing. So how much people still aren't satisfied with what they are trying to do to help the gamers and actually tried looking at it from both sides of the story? Go ahead and post what you think about the subject or atleast vote on the poll.
Now i'm not on anyone's side but I don't like the NGE and I prefer CU or pre NGE atleast. Also post what you think about what SoE is doing with swg today.
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(names used in previous games)
-Desitre -Desiboy -Verra -Auroras Borealis -Scaven
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looking forward to...
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no.
No. At least not til SWG 2 is released.
Nope, never.
Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
no
Ajax
I forgive them for changing the game to what they wanted.
I can't forgive them for their unethical business conduct during the change and afterwards.
It's not the product it's the company that I have a problem with.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
I won't forgive them until they roll out classic servers.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
how could SOE be forgiven if they dont ask for it? not that i have any intrest in forgivness. i will always hold SOE accountable for my being cheated out of the game i payed for...simple as that.
WRONG. If they listened to their customers, there would be more people in the game now as opposed to then.
But no, they are not forgiven.
/yawn
Don't blame SOE for something LucasArts made them do.
yeah im sure LA told soe to make the nge with our sub money and then tell us to go away. they then told them to use bait and switch tactics with toow.
No! Nay! Never!
I agree with this statement and by Classic Servers I mean Pre-CU not CU!!
No they didn't listen to their players. The NGE was created to make the game appeal to people who didn't play. The folks in charge were well aware that the people who were playing the game would not accept the changes and would cancel. Both the former lead designer and the former lead gameplay designer have admitted that the NGE was intended to replace the, at the time current, playerbase with a new and larger playerbase. It turns out they were half right, they lost a large majority of the players, but the hypothetical larger playerbase never materialized.
At any rate, the larger problem with SOE is how they continue to treat their customers with outright hostility and distain. If they stop acting like asses towards their customers, people's perception of the company might change. It is rather odd that John Smedley constantly acknowledges that they have a problem 'communicating' with their customers, and promises that they are going to try harder to correct it, yet nothing ever seems to change on that front.
Once they learn their customers are not the enemy, and begin to treat them with at least a base level of courtesy (they don't even need to go as far as respect), the general view of SOE will begin to change. Unfortunately, there is little to no chance of that happeneing under the current management. There is more of a chance of it happening now that SOE is part of SCEI instead of Sony Pictures, but it isn't that much more.
LEC didn't force SOE to implement the NGE, they allowed them to do it. The NGE was concieved by the SOE development team, and LEC approved its implementation.
LEC didn't force SOE to implement the NGE, they allowed them to do it. The NGE was concieved by the SOE development team, and LEC approved its implementation.
Wrong.
Hey, Im pissed off too about the nge but that was how long ago? and they listened to the people whinning on the forums I didn't mean for it to come out as them listening to everyone. Hell usually always the forums have people complaining about something.
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(names used in previous games)
-Desitre -Desiboy -Verra -Auroras Borealis -Scaven
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looking forward to...
Bioware's MMORPG
Stargate
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LEC didn't force SOE to implement the NGE, they allowed them to do it. The NGE was concieved by the SOE development team, and LEC approved its implementation.
Wrong.
I voted no.
I quit SWG before the NGE and CU, but what they did is just wrong.
I played SWG for 6 months and Planetside (SOE game) for two years and SOE are a bunch of incompetent liars who don't care for players and only care to make money in the short run.
LEC didn't force SOE to implement the NGE, they allowed them to do it. The NGE was concieved by the SOE development team, and LEC approved its implementation.
Wrong.
Sorry, the folks who were involved in creating the abortion known as the NGE have said who instigated it. It was SOE's baby. There was no directive from LEC that forced SOE to implement the NGE.
I dream of a game of great reward and total risk. A game where people get what they justly deserve, not rewarding every sorry sod that gets level 10. No company will bite the bullet, and even if they did, they would have to bite down hard, because no publishers would take their ideas seriously and the game would shamefully fail. /sigh
These are like the early days of MMOs, like UO and EQ and Star Wars Galaxies. When you sign-up and log-in, you enter into a world vastly intimidating, with no set path and no dots to connect to your eventual 'end-game'. You naturally clicked yourself into the niche you felt was right and commenced your enjoyment. Now, you're just a mindless grindbot in every game there ever is or was, a carbon copy after copy with a different theme to 'spice it up'. Gone are the days where you looked up to those players who really put effort into the game. Now you look at a player and say, "I can do that in 2 days." and everything is measured in time, or how long it will take. Its gone, all gone.
When will the day arrive.
LEC didn't force SOE to implement the NGE, they allowed them to do it. The NGE was concieved by the SOE development team, and LEC approved its implementation.
Wrong.
Sorry, the folks who were involved in creating the abortion known as the NGE have said who instigated it. It was SOE's baby. There was no directive from LEC that forced SOE to implement the NGE.
Yep, good ole Dan "OM NOM NOM NOM" Rubenfield admitted it already, sorry, but having him said that, he can't really go back and contradict himself.
i will never forgive
and i will never forget
the only thing me and 250k of my friends believe is $OE owes us a pre-cu game and if they don't make it bioware better.
or we will kill kotor online just like we did to the nge.
No. All of them who have had a hand in the NGE from concept to now should be anally raped by an elephant. The only devs at SOE I have respect for are the Vanguard guys....they have earned their buck.
I have forgiven them. It's time to let SWG. People need to stop living in the past.
You can't live in the past if you expect the world to move forward... We had our time, we have our memories, and that is what they will be... memories.
Can't this poor dead horse be left alone already?! How many billions of threads must be made about the same topic??!?!?!
Whoa whoa whoa! calm yourself there boy. Look, I hate SOE just as much as you do, but in no way am I going to "kill KOTOR Online" because Bioware doesn't bow down to your demands. I'm sorry, but our fight is with SOE, not Bioware, Bioware doesn't owe us a damn thing, so please chill! Don't try and make all SWG vets here look as ignorant as your statement man.
LEC didn't force SOE to implement the NGE, they allowed them to do it. The NGE was concieved by the SOE development team, and LEC approved its implementation.
Wrong.
Sorry, the folks who were involved in creating the abortion known as the NGE have said who instigated it. It was SOE's baby. There was no directive from LEC that forced SOE to implement the NGE.
Yep, good ole Dan "OM NOM NOM NOM" Rubenfield admitted it already, sorry, but having him said that, he can't really go back and contradict himself.
For some reason, the leak by EA's CEO about Bioware's MMO has cause a large increase in the "LucasArts forced SOE to do it!" canard, and the lesser used, but just as false, "It was the players' fault!" explanations for the genisis of the NGE.