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FOR INFO: Looks Like Europe will go first.
Looks like European Infrastructure will be set up first
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=1508956#post1508956
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but americans can join too well anyone can if they get a good enough ping
Being an Aussie i get horrible pings either way... Euro server sounds fine to me
It's becaue they can't get anyone to publish or distribute this in the USA.
Funny how they don't just put it up on Direct2Drive.com
Then they would not need ANYONE. No one to distribute or burn DVD's. All they would need is their own servers.
The fact that they do not go this route and put it on Direct2Drive just tells me that it isn't good enough quality to go there.
Exactly, this is just more smoke and mirrors, they don’t have a Publisher or distributor for NA because no one over the last 2 years who they have demonstrated Darkfall to has ever wanted to publish or distribute it, and its increasingly unlikely that they will find anyone who wants to with only 5 months till launch.
The only company we know of so far who has any involvement with Aventurine is AVE who only have an MoU to distribute Darkfall in Europe, so nothing definite their yet, and still no Publisher for Europe either.
If you read what he says carefully, he’s trying to give the impression that they have lots of options, and are considering offers, that things are moving fast and could change at anytime, that this is only what might happen, that they are hoping to do a simultaneous launch, or launch in NA soon after Europe etc. this is all just more marketing and promotional BS in my opinion, he’s been saying the same things about publishing and launch for years.
Aventurine is going to have to self publish Darkfall and distribute it themselves because so far, 5 months from launch no body else seems to want to, despite what Tasos says.
Tasos is going to maintain this façade to the last possible moment in a desperate attempt to attract potential investors ,publisher and distributors, 5 months before launch with no definite contracts for publishing or distribution looks bad for Darkfall but he’s going to spin it as positively as possible, especially to the customers/community.
People can draw their own conclusions as to what this indicates about the potential quality of Darkfall, and its chance of success.
And if Aventurine does sign publishing and distribution contract's for Darkfall with company's for Europe and NA over the next 5 months I will accept I was wrong, but even Tasos himself is acknowledging this at the very least might not happen, let alone that it is even likely to happen at this stage.
What does it cost to "put it up on Direct2Drive" ? Also I don't think that the distribution is the biggest problem here. You would like to have some servers up and running in the states right ?
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publishers are not that picky when it comes to publishing games. that's where they make their money. they are, however, greedy and understandably stingy toward studios without a demonstrated track record of game development.
i would say it's a straight business decision, they've had offers, but turned them down for business reasons. even though DF is a niche game, there's no way in hell a publisher is going to not submit at least an offer, unless it conflicts badly with their extant portfolio.
trust me, tons of people are watching DF.
and yes i am in the business, and no, don't ask.
Nothing. They just take a % of each sale you make.
Aventurine would not even have to do that. They could simply setup an online store and sell the game for Direct download themselves.
It's very easy to get servers setup in the USA even if they are in Greece. The data center sets everything up for you based on your specs and you can simply remotely connect to them for maintenance etc... or have Data center employees do it.
Of course you actually need some real money for that..
All Darkfall related websites used to be hosted in Texas at theplanet.com.
Now they are all hosted in the UK for some reason..
publishers are not that picky when it comes to publishing games. that's where they make their money. they are, however, greedy and understandably stingy toward studios without a demonstrated track record of game development.
i would say it's a straight business decision, they've had offers, but turned them down for business reasons. even though DF is a niche game, there's no way in hell a publisher is going to not submit at least an offer, unless it conflicts badly with their extant portfolio.
trust me, tons of people are watching DF.
and yes i am in the business, and no, don't ask.
So true and the reality is is that they also will want to start of with a single cluster and grow from that which will allow for a better gaming experience.
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Exactly, this is just more smoke and mirrors, they don’t have a Publisher or distributor for NA because no one over the last 2 years who they have demonstrated Darkfall to has ever wanted to publish or distribute it, and its increasingly unlikely that they will find anyone who wants to with only 5 months till launch.
The only company we know of so far who has any involvement with Aventurine is AVE who only have an MoU to distribute Darkfall in Europe, so nothing definite their yet, and still no Publisher for Europe either.
Exactly the only company you know of so ... a little knowledge is dangerous as the saying goes.
If you read what he says carefully, he’s trying to give the impression that they have lots of options, and are considering offers, that things are moving fast and could change at anytime, that this is only what might happen, that they are hoping to do a simultaneous launch, or launch in NA soon after Europe etc. this is all just more marketing and promotional BS in my opinion, he’s been saying the same things about publishing and launch for years.
He is saying it is one or the other
Aventurine is going to have to self publish Darkfall and distribute it themselves because so far, 5 months from launch no body else seems to want to, despite what Tasos says.
Assumptions
Tasos is going to maintain this façade to the last possible moment in a desperate attempt to attract potential investors ,publisher and distributors, 5 months before launch with no definite contracts for publishing or distribution looks bad for Darkfall but he’s going to spin it as positively as possible, especially to the customers/community.
People can draw their own conclusions as to what this indicates about the potential quality of Darkfall, and its chance of success.
And if Aventurine does sign publishing and distribution contract's for Darkfall with company's for Europe and NA over the next 5 months I will accept I was wrong, but even Tasos himself is acknowledging this at the very least might not happen, let alone that it is even likely to happen at this stage.
No need you're only expressing an oppinion and it's yours no one really cares unless you are right.
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Do all these lame excuses make you fanboys sleep better at night or something? I don't get it.
It's basically so obvious that you can just call it a fact that they cannot find a publisher because they're product is not up to par with industry standards.
And just so you know there ARE smaller publishers in the USA that are very "hands off" and don't get involved in development at all. They only box up the product and distribute it.
Here is one of them:
http://www.trisynergy.com/
So the excuse that they don't want to sign any deals with publishers that are too controlling and greedy doesn't fly. Because there are tons of alternatives.
But once again ---- you need a quality product to sell first.
If you have a quality product there are tons of doors open for you.
Exactly.
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DF certainly is a quality product, their latest batch of screenshots are just excellent.
You mean the screenshots with circa 2002 graphics and models standing around some trees and buildings?
Screenshots like that can be made in a few days using Torque Game Engine Advanced and buying some models off of Turbo Squid. Literally.
You're judging the quality of a piece of sofware as complex as a MMORPG based on a few crummy looking screenshots?
This looks beyond terrible. It literally looks like it was built by someone who is just learning how to model and texture using a 5 year old engine.
You mean the screenshots with circa 2002 graphics and models standing around some trees and buildings?
Screenshots like that can be made in a few days using Torque Game Engine Advanced and buying some models off of Turbo Squid. Literally.
You're judging the quality of a piece of sofware as complex as a MMORPG based on a few crummy looking screenshots?
This looks beyond terrible. It literally looks like it was built by someone who is just learning how to model and texture using a 5 year old engine.
Go ahead and try it chump. Those graphics are equal to/better than AoC and any other MMO in existance right now. It's not Darkfall's fault your taste is bad.
Loving those full dynamic shadows... just gorgeous.
Like others have said, I don't see why they just don't use the Direct2Download or other systems like it. I don't think it is a great idea only selling in Euro....losing a good amoutn of money.
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You mean the screenshots with circa 2002 graphics and models standing around some trees and buildings?
Screenshots like that can be made in a few days using Torque Game Engine Advanced and buying some models off of Turbo Squid. Literally.
You're judging the quality of a piece of sofware as complex as a MMORPG based on a few crummy looking screenshots?
This looks beyond terrible. It literally looks like it was built by someone who is just learning how to model and texture using a 5 year old engine.
Go ahead and try it chump. Those graphics are equal to/better than AoC and any other MMO in existance right now. It's not Darkfall's fault your taste is bad.
Loving those full dynamic shadows... just gorgeous.
Hi,
The screenshots aren't bad but they are far from matching AoC graphics or even EQ2.
DF characters still have "blocky" hands.
they're using low polygon character models in order to support large-scale (200+ player) battles & sieges. it's deliberate.
if you've been in a AoC 'massive' battle (80 players, lol) and experienced the graphical lag there, i can live with blocky hands, lol.
btw EQ2 graphics aren't comparable to DF graphics, not even close. no full dynamic shadows for one thing. AoC is comparable, but it's a slightly different graphical style, so 'better' for many people just means 'the style i like better'.
You mean the screenshots with circa 2002 graphics and models standing around some trees and buildings?
Screenshots like that can be made in a few days using Torque Game Engine Advanced and buying some models off of Turbo Squid. Literally.
You're judging the quality of a piece of sofware as complex as a MMORPG based on a few crummy looking screenshots?
This looks beyond terrible. It literally looks like it was built by someone who is just learning how to model and texture using a 5 year old engine.
Go ahead and try it chump. Those graphics are equal to/better than AoC and any other MMO in existance right now. It's not Darkfall's fault your taste is bad.
Loving those full dynamic shadows... just gorgeous.
Oh really, and Darkfall will magically be able to run on low or mid-level computers with those magical graphics that are equal/better than AoC because Darkfall is the most magically magical MMO to ever be magically developed?
Ok, now that the sarcasm is out of the way, you get my point. Also that orc...thing...whatever the hell that was made me laugh. Looks like an opera singer with green skin running around in armor (no offense to opera singers).
If this game does come out hell I might play it just to laugh at the models.
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What world are you living in?
Darkfall graphics are terribly outdated and poorly done plain and simple. This is not an opinion. It's a FACT.
they're using low polygon character models in order to support large-scale (200+ player) battles & sieges. it's deliberate.
if you've been in a AoC 'massive' battle (80 players, lol) and experienced the graphical lag there, i can live with blocky hands, lol.
Hi,
I don't play AoC but I was interested by it at a time, I can't comment about the massive pvp battle lag.
So by your own admission DF graphics aren't in par with AoC ones at least character wise.
LOL
sure, why not? AoC's framerate is bad because the game was pushed out well before it was finished, AoC clearly decided to emphasis graphics over gameplay as a design goal, and AoC's engine has poor support for dynamic LOD (level of detail) -- they went with their year 2000-vintage dreamworld engine, plus enhancements.
gorgeous, best-looking female orc in any MMO i've ever seen, especially for a low-poly model.
Hi,
L2 visual isn't my cup of tea but this is what I would qualify as "goregous female Orc".
PS : are you sure that this DF orc is female ?
gorgeous, best-looking female orc in any MMO i've ever seen, especially for a low-poly model.
Not commenting on the graphics quality of Darkfall. Not getting involved in this argument. My only question is this though. Are you sure it's female? How can you tell?
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