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Staff may want to rethink the entire Game Correspondance thing
Enigma
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Call me crazy or nuts, but every thread Ive read that was started by a Game Corresponder gets locked.
It seems like if someone reacts negatively to a game correspondent, the thread gets lock. I don't know...I would suggest maybe some training for those in the new positions? Maybe?
Some suggestions.....well...one really
BE NEUTRAL.
If a game correspodent whips out "shady" stuff that is a advertisement for the game...that is not corresponding. That is call Advertisement.
To be a successful correspondent you need to provide factual information about the game (not just AoC...but any game....I just say it here since people are lock happy here a lot) and to provide factual information about the game.
You cannot be a successful Game Correspondent if you are
- A Fanboi
- A Griever
You have to be in the middle. Neutral. Your job is to provide news concerning the game and be a support catalyst for ingame walk throughs, etc. Not to promote Funcom. If one acts like a PR for a very "touchy subject of AoC" then you're going to get flames. If you are neutral and deliver factual information and helpful information, you wont get flamed.
Just a thought.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
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This coming from an obvious Political shill. I mean do you really think your mad plan to have Cobra Commander take over the US executive branch will really work? What kind of nefarious plot is this a part of to get him elected. Are you trying to start some kind of new cobra political party with this?
Note: I am joking. Don't ban me for calling him a shill.
Asking a Correspondent to be neutral is strange because they would not become the Correspondent of a game that they did not like or play to begin with.
So right out of the box, you have some subjective/bias going on. Anyone else realize this?
-drslice
I think there is a difference between a 'Fan' and a 'Fanboy'.
Liking the game is one thing but being overtly defensive of the game is not the job of a correspondent.
Whilst the correspondent is perfectly in his right to like a game - his public communication should take a more neutral stance.
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Theoretically its possible. However its unlikely and IMO is simply not a something you should rely on in anyway.
Cobra Commander was funnier than either of those guys and therefore better.
I think there is a difference between a 'Fan' and a 'Fanboy'.
Liking the game is one thing but being overtly defensive of the game is not the job of a correspondent.
Whilst the correspondent is perfectly in his right to like a game - his public communication should take a more neutral stance.
You might be on to something in the chain of logic here. First of all, what is the real purpose and point of having a game correspondent. Once you have defined that, the rest becomes pretty clear. These guys are not paid to do this, they are just fans of the game to... what can they do that they wouldn't be able to do as just a normal poster such as I? i can make a new thread talking about patches, I can make a blog about a game, I can be a fanboy for a game I love.
I think what is seperating these guys from the normal posters is the fact they have a link to their game's hired community people, devs, or some sort of official type of person. That is where it gets kinda shady. I really don't think it's that big of a deal, but there needs to be a Big Line draw in the gaming Sand to make sure these guys powers are never above that of a normal poster, and that they wouldn't be given any preferential treatment beyond that of what you and I might recieve to keep the integrity of the forums.
From what i understand, a game correspondant has to play the same game over and over again reviewing it each month everytime something new comes out or just to keep the community appraised of its progress.
I dont know how the hell you would be able to do that if you werent a fanboi of some sort, And how would you be able to screen out fanbois, and why would you want to?
if you feel you would make a better corresspondant instead of making threads like this send in an application.
He or she doesnt have to be netural, the dude is reviewing MMO, one you have probably played already, his or her opinion is there own and nothing they say comes etched in granite blocks. Its not that epic, you read the story for a fellow gamers point of view and nothing more.
When you start beleiving their opinion is any more then that you begin creating threads like this.
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Give the staff a break.
1. Domi... new AoC-Corespondent
"Hi, I am the new AoC correspondant" - "uuuh, good luck mate, you will need it"
2. Appearance of a beloved AoC-moderator
"Hi, I am Famine from the official AoC-Forums" - "There he is! We need a rope and a tree!"
3. Avery new AoC-cores...Ihatethisword + possible second life
Three "events" on a single day in the AoC-section may aggroe the toughest MMO-mod.
No they are volunteers. He just gets free drinks from Funcom
Dominsci explicitly stated he is paying his sub to AoC if you want confirmation.
No they are volunteers. He just gets free drinks from Funcom
Dominsci explicitly stated he is paying his sub to AoC if you want confirmation.
Benefits:
Hmmm, maybe I should become the hater AoC correspondent... nah it's not even worth my time, even if it is free
Would be fun to have hater correspondents too though, instead of just blind faith, true believer fanboys.
I know it may seem strange, but it is not outside the realms of possibility that Avery is just a very very enthusiastic fan of AoC.
I dont think we can blame MMORPG.com for Dom. He is a fan of the game (who else would be a correspondent?), but hasnt realised that he needs to take a more neutral stance to act properly in that role. Unwittingly he has become a PR device (which has backfired).
I doubt MMORPG.com is paying averys sub.
I think many people completely misunderstand this program.
We are looking for these people to give us a feel from "inside the game" as a regular player. The kind of things we want from them:
We are not trying to get them to spill their opinions, we assume they already love the game or at least like it - or they would not be in the program.
This is not for editorial or unbiased content - we have Jon Wood and his writing team for that. This is to generate content for people that use our site that are looking for game resources that they currently get at other websites...
- MMORPG.COM Staff -
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Dear Admin,
I think being a gamer who is a fan of the game is ok for a correspondent, and that's all fine.
However, if he's an employee of Funcom or recompensed in kickbacks for posting outright lies and PR about the game, there is a problem.
Avery appears to cross that line here, as his post about the Fury server was actually simple misinformation, and he appears to have a closer tie to Funcom than mere fanboyism.
I have not seen anything that proves this and I have asked my Editor and Correspondent Manager to double, triple check this by asking both parties.
Everything I have seen just shows Avery is a die-hard fan of this game who has close friendships with the devs. Other than that it looks like a lot of the normal conspiracy theory garbage that goes on here all day long. The same stuff that accuses me of taking bribes, and having every game company on earth in "my pocket" - which is of course why I am here posting instead of cruising in my jet on the way to my new yacht
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No they are volunteers. He just gets free drinks from Funcom
Dominsci explicitly stated he is paying his sub to AoC if you want confirmation.
Benefits:
You win this round, but I'll be back.
That all sounds good in practice, but if the GC spend most of their time posting things like month old charts to show how great the game is doing (not their job), they have crossed the line to a FunCom PR person with a title giving them some weight on this site.
Like it or not a completely biased poster (hater or fanboy) with a Game Correspondent title means he is sanctioned and supported by this site. By extension, MMORPG can be seen as biased, which is what many of us come to this site to avoid.
After the brutal censoring of the AoC official forums, I don't mind telling you I'm mighty suspicious of Famine posting here, then Amazing Avery being "promoted to GC". This board should be free of corporate meddling.
I understand what you're trying to do but the certain correspondent in question does none of those things. Rather he does PR for Funcom using incorrect or outdated information. If that is your vision of what a correspondent is, than there really is no point in having them. The forums are filled with nonsense already.
I can understand freedom of expression. However, having people like Avery as a correspondent really undermines the whole program. People know that he's affiliated with Funcom and judging by the content of his posts, I have to say that I would not take anything he posts at face value as I will question every single one of his posts for validity and whether or not it's a PR spin.
That list you have there, and the content that we're actually receiving are two different things. Lets see some overviews of patch notes and walkthroughs then, and less public relations material that attempts to salvage FC's already dwindling reputation.
In otherwords, lets bottom-line this whole thing. Actions speak louder than words! You say a game correspondent is supposed to do one thing, in reality I am seeing something entirely different.
-drslice
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Admin,
You should look a little closer at that post. He posted misinformation and tried to make it seem current.
Really though, is it not enough to see the 95% of the posters here do NOT want Avery as a correspondent.
Nothing wrong with being a fan of the game, but someone in an official position posting misinformation is unacceptable and looks bad for the site.
That list you have there, and the content that we're actually receiving are two different things. Lets see some overviews of patch notes and walkthroughs then, and less public relations material that attempts to salvage FC's already dwindling reputation.
In otherwords, lets bottom-line this whole thing. Actions speak louder than words! You say a game correspondent is supposed to do one thing, in reality I am seeing something entirely different.
-drslice
The correspondents are just normal forum members. What they post on the forums is not what we are asking them to do - when they post they are equal with you. They have zero powers on the site. The materials they are producing are daily articles. If anything, that title should alert you to "possible fanboi" since they are a correspondent. We have only had these new correspondents produce 5 articles so far and these are them:
WoW Wintergrasp: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/15/feature/2100
EQ2 - Eyes of a Noob: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/2/feature/2097
WAR - About those cuts: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/239/feature/2092
AoC - PvP System: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/feature/2088
LOTRO - Mines of Moria: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/45/feature/2086
Whatever these users are doing on the forums is not part of their job as a correspondent...at all. Unless they are reply to the comments thread about their own article in the news forum thread.
- MMORPG.COM Staff -
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If Avery is posting outright lies about AOC on the forum, are we allowed to call him out on it?
Why not hold a poll and see how the users of this site feel?