I've not played Vanguard and as it has been said before on this very forum topic that they've had no marketing and only those who are already die-hard will know - I have no intention of even studying it. Heard bad hype, still hear bad hype - but I won't dis it any further.
I've been watching closesly, from leaked Youtube stuff and off the website itself and I'm actually impressed lately with the way Warhammer looks. I was a bit distasteful before, showing most of the landscape looked meshy and jagged, and I don't mind the jaggedness after some of the sucky things I've played before - but I'm seeing that Warhammer looks better in Beta than WoW does right now.
In the seriousness factor at least. Bless AoC for trying to make a game that caters to someone so utterly sick of the cartoonishness and the downright strange. Screw them for screwing most of their first players over. At least Warhammer looks like it has the grit to support the fact a war happens to be raging across the whole game. I love WoW and always will, picked it up not too long after release so it had been polished a bit and finalized. Two 70s (BE Paladin and Human Mage) that got locked at 70 with no raiding guild and no desire to PvP.
Not to preach about RvR, I'm keeping the point short here. As a long term WoW player, having sampled a bit of everything, Warhammer can't be - in a small sense of the word - 'worse' than WoW. It won't topple it, of course, unless Paul Barnett happens to be Jesus' uncle, but it's not worse. It's in different class. While both WoW and WAR are [probably] going to be linear, at least WAR is taking the chance for something new and innovative. Keeping you pumped - hooked on the idea of struggling for the world. WoW never captured that in my time playing, except those direly long old AV battles they got rid of.
WoW = Waiting on Warhammer.
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If you wan't to play a game that straight up PVP no leveing skill based game. Play darkfall, aoc pvp sucks and same with world of warcraft. Screw War darkfall will rule all.
"Outside the dream world, life can be harsh--even cruel, but it is life"
If you wan't to play a game that straight up PVP no leveing skill based game. Play darkfall, aoc pvp sucks and same with world of warcraft. Screw War darkfall will rule all.
So basically your saying people should just wait until the day after the Apocalypse to ever enjoy PvP...because I don't see darkfall ever becoming more than vaporware in the next 3 years.
Vanguard was a great game if you liked EQ1. The mechanics of the game were similar. But after you lvled up to 50 there was nothing to do. I'm not all that into crafting, but I thought the boats were pretty cool. They also had some innovation with harvesting and diplomacy. Their mistake was releasing the game when it didn't work and lost most of their base. I started after it had some fixing, but lvled to 50 mainly solo since there was no one to group with. So they cut the number of servers to 3 or 4. I played the open beta of AoC, but wasn't impressed and didn't buy the game. Same with Lot R. Never played a PVP game so I'll probably get owned in WAR. With the interest on the forums looks like it will start off hot. Hopefully it will be functional from the start. If so then the Dev did learn from Vanguard.
WAR endgame IS the game! A ongoing faction war where your individual fights influence a battlefield which in turn advance/retreat your faction towards dominating the opposition.
Did you try War's endgame content? If not why are you contributing to the unclear hype? Didn't you learn anything from other MMOs yet?
First, SEE then BELIEVE. Not the reverse.
I will not believe in anything till I see it with my own eyes. Look at the other MMOs, so much hype. Then tisssss, tons of bugs, tons of lacking content, no end game content.
Try using you brain, you would need it once in a while.
I think I'll just have a little FAITH.
Faith is misguided. This is a game, not a religion.
WAR endgame IS the game! A ongoing faction war where your individual fights influence a battlefield which in turn advance/retreat your faction towards dominating the opposition.
Did you try War's endgame content? If not why are you contributing to the unclear hype? Didn't you learn anything from other MMOs yet?
First, SEE then BELIEVE. Not the reverse.
I will not believe in anything till I see it with my own eyes. Look at the other MMOs, so much hype. Then tisssss, tons of bugs, tons of lacking content, no end game content.
Try using you brain, you would need it once in a while.
I think I'll just have a little FAITH.
Faith is misguided. This is a game, not a religion.
A review from a beta testing on betaleaks does lead one to have some serious doubts in faith...
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First post, I know. Whatever.
WoW = Waiting on Warhammer.
I've not played Vanguard and as it has been said before on this very forum topic that they've had no marketing and only those who are already die-hard will know - I have no intention of even studying it. Heard bad hype, still hear bad hype - but I won't dis it any further.
I've been watching closesly, from leaked Youtube stuff and off the website itself and I'm actually impressed lately with the way Warhammer looks. I was a bit distasteful before, showing most of the landscape looked meshy and jagged, and I don't mind the jaggedness after some of the sucky things I've played before - but I'm seeing that Warhammer looks better in Beta than WoW does right now.
In the seriousness factor at least. Bless AoC for trying to make a game that caters to someone so utterly sick of the cartoonishness and the downright strange. Screw them for screwing most of their first players over. At least Warhammer looks like it has the grit to support the fact a war happens to be raging across the whole game. I love WoW and always will, picked it up not too long after release so it had been polished a bit and finalized. Two 70s (BE Paladin and Human Mage) that got locked at 70 with no raiding guild and no desire to PvP.
Not to preach about RvR, I'm keeping the point short here. As a long term WoW player, having sampled a bit of everything, Warhammer can't be - in a small sense of the word - 'worse' than WoW. It won't topple it, of course, unless Paul Barnett happens to be Jesus' uncle, but it's not worse. It's in different class. While both WoW and WAR are [probably] going to be linear, at least WAR is taking the chance for something new and innovative. Keeping you pumped - hooked on the idea of struggling for the world. WoW never captured that in my time playing, except those direly long old AV battles they got rid of.
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Sniper is another term for unorthodox surgeon.
If you wan't to play a game that straight up PVP no leveing skill based game. Play darkfall, aoc pvp sucks and same with world of warcraft. Screw War darkfall will rule all.
"Outside the dream world, life can be harsh--even cruel, but it is life"
So basically your saying people should just wait until the day after the Apocalypse to ever enjoy PvP...because I don't see darkfall ever becoming more than vaporware in the next 3 years.
Vanguard was a great game if you liked EQ1. The mechanics of the game were similar. But after you lvled up to 50 there was nothing to do. I'm not all that into crafting, but I thought the boats were pretty cool. They also had some innovation with harvesting and diplomacy. Their mistake was releasing the game when it didn't work and lost most of their base. I started after it had some fixing, but lvled to 50 mainly solo since there was no one to group with. So they cut the number of servers to 3 or 4. I played the open beta of AoC, but wasn't impressed and didn't buy the game. Same with Lot R. Never played a PVP game so I'll probably get owned in WAR. With the interest on the forums looks like it will start off hot. Hopefully it will be functional from the start. If so then the Dev did learn from Vanguard.
Did you try War's endgame content? If not why are you contributing to the unclear hype? Didn't you learn anything from other MMOs yet?
First, SEE then BELIEVE. Not the reverse.
I will not believe in anything till I see it with my own eyes. Look at the other MMOs, so much hype. Then tisssss, tons of bugs, tons of lacking content, no end game content.
Try using you brain, you would need it once in a while.
I think I'll just have a little FAITH.
Faith is misguided. This is a game, not a religion.
Did you try War's endgame content? If not why are you contributing to the unclear hype? Didn't you learn anything from other MMOs yet?
First, SEE then BELIEVE. Not the reverse.
I will not believe in anything till I see it with my own eyes. Look at the other MMOs, so much hype. Then tisssss, tons of bugs, tons of lacking content, no end game content.
Try using you brain, you would need it once in a while.
I think I'll just have a little FAITH.
Faith is misguided. This is a game, not a religion.
A review from a beta testing on betaleaks does lead one to have some serious doubts in faith...
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Ethion