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Aion: Can this game be the last stand for new MMORPG's in the near future?

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  • BladinBladin Member UncommonPosts: 1,089
    Originally posted by Cynthe

    Originally posted by Bladin

    Originally posted by Hoplites


    The character generator rivals CoX

     

    No it doesn't.

     

    You are right, they are the same. One focuses on costumes and body, while the other focuses on body and faces. The faces in CoH are quite static even with the sliders.

    Aion is a newer game and has more then customization going for it. It's gameplay will rival WoW's, L2, FFXI, EQ2, AoC, ect... But not at the cost of great character creation. Conan told us we'd have super character customization, but Aion has better, at least for females...

    A million games? Not exactly I can think of a few that have facial sliders:

    Ryzom: Hands down the best character creation, faces and bodies' sliders have drastic effect.

    Vanguard: Very good when they had the facial sliders.

    AoC: Sliders only do so much.

    EQ2: You hardly notice a difference whatever you do.

    CoH: Again not much of a difference.

    WoW, L2, FFXI: You pick a face, no sliders.

    Hmm what am I missing?

    I never mentioned gameplay, i don't care about that, that wasn't the point of my post.

    And yes it was a saying, i didn't mean a million games.

    ryzom, i'll agree, great customization

    Vanguard, facial sliders, body piece sliders, tons more races though

    AoC you  do get some nice alteration of your characters, but ill agree there.

    EQ2, but beyond just facial customization, theres a wider variety of races

    CoH, tons difference.  Facial customization has sliders, and a wide variety of faces and masks.  On par? not quite.  But then you get costumes. More then body, your character created in coh is everything, his hat, his shirt, his pants, his shoulders.  It's all created and styled by you.  Which is why you very rarely ever see 2 heroes/villains who look exactly the same.

    WoW l2 FFXI, i agree.

    By saying a million other games did it, i meant and which is obvious. "It's nothing special that stands above the crowd".  And it's not,

    CoHs is.  You can say it has good customization i don't mind i won't argue, just don't say its close to coh. because its not.

    While there isn't a lot of games out there to say are super better.  you still just can't say aion is doing anything worth mentioning in a way to hype the game.  Talk about it's great gameplay, it's flying, it's etc. I don't know.

    Unlike you guys, i've played more then asian mmos, so sliders aren't something revolutionary.

     

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  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860

    Reminder, in Aion you can use a crapload of dyes to color your armor parts, in Aion you can use the looks of an armor and add the stats of another armor, if you end up looking like someone else, it's cause you wanted to do so, and even wanting, you'd have a hard time with all the sliders in the character customization tool. CoX system and Vanguard's are way weaker than Aion's, im 100% sure of that.

  • DawnJWDawnJW Member Posts: 108
    Originally posted by Ephimero


    Reminder, in Aion you can use a crapload of dyes to color your armor parts, in Aion you can use the looks of an armor and add the stats of another armor, if you end up looking like someone else, it's cause you wanted to do so, and even wanting, you'd have a hard time with all the sliders in the character customization tool. CoX system and Vanguard's are way weaker than Aion's, im 100% sure of that.

     

    *Edited*

     

    Greets,

    Dawn

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  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860

    huh?

  • k11keeperk11keeper Member UncommonPosts: 1,048
    Originally posted by Ephimero


    huh?

     

    I second the "huh?"

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by Bladin

    Originally posted by Cynthe

    Originally posted by Bladin

    Originally posted by Hoplites


    The character generator rivals CoX

     

    No it doesn't.

     

    You are right, they are the same. One focuses on costumes and body, while the other focuses on body and faces. The faces in CoH are quite static even with the sliders.

    Aion is a newer game and has more then customization going for it. It's gameplay will rival WoW's, L2, FFXI, EQ2, AoC, ect... But not at the cost of great character creation. Conan told us we'd have super character customization, but Aion has better, at least for females...

    A million games? Not exactly I can think of a few that have facial sliders:

    Ryzom: Hands down the best character creation, faces and bodies' sliders have drastic effect.

    Vanguard: Very good when they had the facial sliders.

    AoC: Sliders only do so much.

    EQ2: You hardly notice a difference whatever you do.

    CoH: Again not much of a difference.

    WoW, L2, FFXI: You pick a face, no sliders.

    Hmm what am I missing?

    I never mentioned gameplay, i don't care about that, that wasn't the point of my post.

    And yes it was a saying, i didn't mean a million games.

    ryzom, i'll agree, great customization

    Vanguard, facial sliders, body piece sliders, tons more races though

    AoC you  do get some nice alteration of your characters, but ill agree there.

    EQ2, but beyond just facial customization, theres a wider variety of races

    CoH, tons difference.  Facial customization has sliders, and a wide variety of faces and masks.  On par? not quite.  But then you get costumes. More then body, your character created in coh is everything, his hat, his shirt, his pants, his shoulders.  It's all created and styled by you.  Which is why you very rarely ever see 2 heroes/villains who look exactly the same.

    WoW l2 FFXI, i agree.

    By saying a million other games did it, i meant and which is obvious. "It's nothing special that stands above the crowd".  And it's not,

    CoHs is.  You can say it has good customization i don't mind i won't argue, just don't say its close to coh. because its not.

    While there isn't a lot of games out there to say are super better.  you still just can't say aion is doing anything worth mentioning in a way to hype the game.  Talk about it's great gameplay, it's flying, it's etc. I don't know.

    Unlike you guys, i've played more then asian mmos, so sliders aren't something revolutionary.

     

     

    My first MMORPG wasn't Asian so I do not understand why you want to paint with broad brush strokes.

    With NCSOFT acquiring the CoX from Cryptic it isn't far fetched to believe they can come close with Aion in character customization.  I strongly disagree with your assertion that it isn't close because based on the footage shown that is all over the internet from Korean beta testers it is very convincing.

     

     

  • Ascension08Ascension08 Member Posts: 1,980
    Originally posted by DawnJW

    Originally posted by Ephimero


    Reminder, in Aion you can use a crapload of dyes to color your armor parts, in Aion you can use the looks of an armor and add the stats of another armor, if you end up looking like someone else, it's cause you wanted to do so, and even wanting, you'd have a hard time with all the sliders in the character customization tool. CoX system and Vanguard's are way weaker than Aion's, im 100% sure of that.

     

    No No No ! ! !, this is what i Hate! AoC Failed, more people where coming to us, now Warhammer Fails again, and player come also to us. Please children stay with your Game if you only have Bad Things to say? become Mature.

     

    Greets,

    Dawn

    With people like Dawn playing (who say an unreleased game has "Failed" and all the Warhammer people are coming to Aion to say "Bad Things") I don't know if this game will be worth it.

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    A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"

    Order of the White Border.

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by DawnJW

    Originally posted by Ephimero


    Reminder, in Aion you can use a crapload of dyes to color your armor parts, in Aion you can use the looks of an armor and add the stats of another armor, if you end up looking like someone else, it's cause you wanted to do so, and even wanting, you'd have a hard time with all the sliders in the character customization tool. CoX system and Vanguard's are way weaker than Aion's, im 100% sure of that.

     

    No No No ! ! !, this is what i Hate! AoC Failed, more people where coming to us, now Warhammer Fails again, and player come also to us. Please children stay with your Game if you only have Bad Things to say? become Mature.

     

    Greets,

    Dawn

     

    What?

  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860
    Originally posted by Ascension08

    Originally posted by DawnJW

    Originally posted by Ephimero


    Reminder, in Aion you can use a crapload of dyes to color your armor parts, in Aion you can use the looks of an armor and add the stats of another armor, if you end up looking like someone else, it's cause you wanted to do so, and even wanting, you'd have a hard time with all the sliders in the character customization tool. CoX system and Vanguard's are way weaker than Aion's, im 100% sure of that.

     

    No No No ! ! !, this is what i Hate! AoC Failed, more people where coming to us, now Warhammer Fails again, and player come also to us. Please children stay with your Game if you only have Bad Things to say? become Mature.

     

    Greets,

    Dawn

    With people like Dawn playing (who say an unreleased game has "Failed" and all the Warhammer people are coming to Aion to say "Bad Things") I don't know if this game will be worth it.

    huh?

  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by Bladin



    Unlike you guys, i've played more then asian mmos, so sliders aren't something revolutionary.

     

    Oh please check your attitude at the door, I don't care what you've played I can guarantee you I've played every game you have. Currently enjoying CoX with my hubby and while there's tons costume wise again facially there really isn't. So I guess it depends what you think is more you, your face or your costume. In Aion it;'s mostly your face with cosmetic options for your armor like dye.

    Once the game is available to us and people start playing they will see for themselves and understand that yes in Aion you will be hard pressed to be a clone of anyone.

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  • DawnJWDawnJW Member Posts: 108
    Originally posted by Cynthe

    Originally posted by Bladin



    Unlike you guys, i've played more then asian mmos, so sliders aren't something revolutionary.

     

    Oh please check your attitude at the door, I don't care what you've played I can guarantee you I've played every game you have. Currently enjoying CoX with my hubby and while there's tons costume wise again facially there really isn't. So I guess it depends what you think is more you, your face or your costume. In Aion it;'s mostly your face with cosmetic options for your armor like dye.

    Once the game is available to us and people start playing they will see for themselves and understand that yes in Aion you will be hard pressed to be a clone of anyone.

     

    Yeah, but look Age of Conan, everybody seems the same.. So boring...

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  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by DawnJW



    Yeah, but look Age of Conan, everybody seems the same.. So boring...

     

    Did Age of Conan steal your first born? ^_^  Though I agree I was mightily disappointed by their 'extensive' character creation....

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  • kaishi00kaishi00 Member Posts: 299

    The fact everyone wore the same damn brown potato sack already threw customization out the door.

  • Rio_AionRio_Aion Member Posts: 34

    I think it is probably hard to create a game where people are recongnized by their appearance rather than the name above their character.  I've played some games that have had character creation that gives people the option of looking different from everyone else and a few people do it but no matter how many options that are provided there will always be people that look like each other.  Because people don't want to take a chance at looking different? Tbh, idk but it never fails, every MMO, even next gen ones seem to have the same cookie cutter characters not because tthe option isn't there, people just don't use the option to look different.  granted, some of the options are rediculous and veryfew ppl would choose some of them. 

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  • k11keeperk11keeper Member UncommonPosts: 1,048

    Yeah to be completely honest I don't really care how different my toon looks from everyone else. I do however miss being able to dye armor and weapons like in DAoC. So i am looking forward to being able to choose what color my armor and stuff is gonna be. Realy when it comes time to play the game II probably won't spend more the 30 seconds customizing my character and choosing hair color tattoos and what not. I'm gonna want to play the game. I think people make too big a deal out of customizing options. For a game you're gonna play for years why is the first 3-5 mins have to be so indepth? Does it make the gameplay better? Does it improve on the storyline immersion? Will PvP be improved by this? I don't think so but for some reason this is something people always throw their arms up about. Maybe that's why I prefer Eastern MMOs where gameplay and mechanics take precidence over how many colors of hair i can choose or how big can i make this toons boobs before the sliding bar is all the way to the end.

  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by kaishi00


    The fact everyone wore the same damn brown potato sack already threw customization out the door.

    That's because armor is considered an acquirable item, and not part of the customization, or character creation. 

    There are dyes however....

    Having your character look somewhat unique has pretty much been proven to be a wanted feature in these games where you play with thousands of potential clones, and yes that includes dying your armor and making certain pieces look like another set you have. Example make your newly acquired chest piece with awesome stats look like your lower level piece with better graphics.

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