Yes true. I can assure you in that time you could play all classes on both factions and know if you like the game, and what classes/faction you like. It s plenty of time trust me on this
Then honestly, move on with your life. I mentioned what with my other post. If you do not care about MMOs then delete your account here and move on with your life. I can assure you no one will say "where did salenger go?"... we'll somehow move on with our lives. Everyone here can just as easily NOT preorder the game, do the OB, try it out, and if they are still not sure then they don't have to buy the game. People hype up the game, no one else. You can throw as much PR at a game release but if people don't bite, there is no hype.
Definitely cancel your order if you feel that a game company is obligated to give you free game time while they have pumped endless amounts of cash developing said game for 3 years,also canceling will save us players from having to listen to your crying on the official boards of how Mythic ripped you off "or in reality your parents" of their money.
Noone is twisting your arms and making u buy this game so spare us your BS and put up or shuddup
Originally posted by Mett I will never understand why this community is so full of people that just complain. I try to enjoy everything and if I get to play for a week or two and then move on so be it. I have bought plenty of games without betas that I pay the same amount for and get home play for 5 minutes and trash it. I ordered a CE a while back so I am just waiting for the head start. I just hope all the complainers quit before OB so I don't have to read their garbage in chat on day 1 like it was with AOC.
The reason they complain is because half of them compare it to WoW, AoC, anything they felt has done them wrong, while the other half complains simply because they feel that they should be the very first people to play and it makes them mad having to wait another week. I hope the crybabies cancel, I hope the haters cancel too...but i also hope that they go out in the world...learn the meaning of their lives...learn to be MEN..grow a set...then come back realizing that the best things come to those that wait...
I said you "could" play 100 hours if you WANT to. See... "bro", I am explaining you have choices. Like I said, I will need 1-2 hours to decide if I like the game. If you need more, the time is there for you to take advantage.
I will never understand why this community is so full of people that just complain. I try to enjoy everything and if I get to play for a week or two and then move on so be it. I have bought plenty of games without betas that I pay the same amount for and get home play for 5 minutes and trash it. I ordered a CE a while back so I am just waiting for the head start. I just hope all the complainers quit before OB so I don't have to read their garbage in chat on day 1 like it was with AOC.
You accuse everyone else of complaining, yet you have an avatar saying failcum...how ironic.
The fact is Mythic is using techniques very similar to AOC. Only a few days of Open beta (and you need to pre-order to get in), only a few days of open beta..etc.
And as I read the forums, I recognize all of the comments from fanbois are very similar to what AOC fanbois said a couple months back.
IS it possible for a good release? Yes. But in my eyes, it's just not worth the risk.
__________________________________________________ In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08 - Rest In Peace; you will not be forgotten
You guys are too funny. Cancelling a preorder doesnt' cost you anything. Play the game for a week and if you dont' like it, cancel. I mean it really isn't a big deal and Mark had already specificially said that open beta will not be long. It is a brief chance to try the game for the players and a way for them to test system load as a developer. Mark also said he wants to drop the NDA well before open beta starts so I still expect the NDA down in the next week.
WAR isn't like AOC where the first 20 levels are completely different than the rest of the game. That was something pretty unique to AOC, never had a situation like that in any other mmorpg I've played. I find it sad that WAR is going to lose players because AOC was such an utter failure.
I never thought there would be so many blind fanboys here, I spent 3 weeks on this forum and found most people rational but wow. This is EXACTLY the same behaviors that aoc fanboys had when someone tried to say something was bad about their game...
An Open Beta is meant as a Demo of the game for customers for the price of reporting bugs. Every single player game has a Demo and the Open Beta is that for mmos. Having only 1 week is not a problem for me because I play 2-3x more than the average player but for most people it's not enough to know enough to make a smart decision.
It defeats the whole purpose of preordering for those who have limited income and want to be certain before buying a game. We might as well wait for reviews of the game.
Don't take it wrong, I'm sure the game is going to be great but this doesn't change the fact that this is a very bad way to do things, especially considering the AOC fiasco. Mythic should know better than this. Me and my Archmage have gone from "Eager Fan" to "Wary Customer" and will now apply a Wait and See approach to this game
.... I never thought there would be so many blind fanboys here, I spent 3 weeks on this forum and found most people rational but wow. This is EXACTLY the same behaviors that aoc fanboys had when someone tried to say something was bad about their game... An Open Beta is meant as a Demo of the game for customers for the price of reporting bugs. Every single player game has a Demo and the Open Beta is that for mmos. Having only 1 week is not a problem for me because I play 2-3x more than the average player but for most people it's not enough to know enough to make a smart decision. It defeats the whole purpose of preordering for those who have limited income and want to be certain before buying a game. We might as well wait for reviews of the game. Don't take it wrong, I'm sure the game is going to be great but this doesn't change the fact that this is a very bad way to do things, especially considering the AOC fiasco. Mythic should know better than this. Me and my Archmage have gone from "Eager Fan" to "Wary Customer" and will now apply a Wait and See approach to this game
The funny thing is , if AOC still wasn t out and months away, no one would even mention this as a problem. I understand your concerns, but this is average for most AAA MMOs. Just because AOC had a sub par product and well was hiding alot from it s future customer base does not mean Mythic is doing the same. First of all Mythic has let us testers test EVERYTHING, second they have let people know well in advance what they re adding or deleting for the released product. There has never been a time in the development of WAR especially now where i ve said, the game seems cool but what about this feature etc. They have told us everything we need to know. Bottom line is this is not AOC or FC, it s Mythic and they have been completely open with their product.
I for one will be making a list and checking it twice. Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch. For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.
The fact is Mythic is using techniques very similar to AOC. Only a few days of Open beta (and you need to pre-order to get in), only a few days of open beta..etc. And as I read the forums, I recognize all of the comments from fanbois are very similar to what AOC fanbois said a couple months back. IS it possible for a good release? Yes. But in my eyes, it's just not worth the risk.
one -BIG- difference
AOC never lifted the NDA
Mythic has not either yet but once they do lift the NDA, that will set them apart
Myrdek there hasn't been true OB's since Lineage those days are gone.
When you have a game as popular as WaR you don't have a problem filling it with tester's.WaR is going gold whether you guys like it or not,"gold" meens its finished as in don't need beta testers.
Comparing Mythic to Funcom is just a joke,noone makes truly informed statements here they just regurgetate somthing they read or heard in passing.
Go get your money back save for college become a programmer found a development studio and make a better game.
I for one will be making a list and checking it twice. Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch. For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.
Good luck with this chief. Go get em! Can't believe someone cares as much as you mate.
I for one will be making a list and checking it twice. Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch. For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.
I think if companies are going to start doing it this way shouldn't call it open beta anymore. They should call it a pre-release preview. Because really that's all they ever are these days and doing it the way they do now gives people a totally different perception. All open beta has ever been in my experience is to try the game out for a week or two before you buy it. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
Myrdek there hasn't been true OB's since Lineage those days are gone. Go get your money back save for college become a programmer found a development studio and make a better game.
Funny thing is, I did study programming in college for a year and a half. Had a 94% average and I constantly skipped class, played games and never studied
I for one will be making a list and checking it twice. Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch. For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.
Good luck with this chief. Go get em! Can't believe someone cares as much as you mate.
HA! Have you ever saw, heard or witnessed such a fit...that it was the ultimate pleasure (as the fit subsided and was replaced with a smiley, happy faced, ice-cream eating....disposition) to just point out what a complete fool they made themselves out to be? Is it me or are there others that find it pleasurable just to remind? That's all it is...but there is a hint of shadowy, malicious intent behind the many reminders I'm sure I'll be posting.
I think if companies are going to start doing it this way shouldn't call it open beta anymore. They should call it a pre-release preview. Because really that's all they ever are these days and doing it the way they do now gives people a totally different perception. All open beta has ever been in my experience is to try the game out for a week or two before you buy it. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
Well "pre-release preview" doesn't get the kiddies drooling, nor does it sound very convincing when someone trots out the old "I've played since pre-release preview " badge of honor as a substitute for credibility in a forum argument.
What the hell is that crap? 1 week??? Their probably doing this to not give time for people to cancel their preorder, this is complete crap. I'm cancelling mine, no way I'm getting screwed like some were with Funcom
I can assure you that Mythic's release will be very different from Failcom's. I would not cancel anything if I were you, the game is simply amazing.
That's what I thought too, I read betaleak, I have tons of videos and am very hyped. But doing this insures that you can't cancel your preorder in time and is a very shady business practice. I thought they were better than this.
Better safe than sorry
Actually the only shady practice is trying to get something for nothing. In fact is it is the people that do this bait and switch order cancel crap that makes companies setup situations to weed out the scammers. This is a business like any other it costs money and if you have ever worked in the IT industry commercial server time is not free and bandwidth is not free. If you have worries about the game don't pre-order and buy live retail or wait 6 months for a buddy program. This plan is fairly standard similar to what LOTRO did and is fair. If you don’t like it cancel now please you have plenty of time to do so.
Relax people. Why are you freaking out? You have a week to test the game. They are going to lift the NDA soon, and you will hear from thousands of people how good the game is. Then you will have a week to try it. You will have plenty of time to cancel pre orders. They are operating on a whole different level than Funcom, and this will be nothing like AoC. Just relax. It's just open beta. The characters don't carry over.
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Yes true. I can assure you in that time you could play all classes on both factions and know if you like the game, and what classes/faction you like. It s plenty of time trust me on this
Then honestly, move on with your life. I mentioned what with my other post. If you do not care about MMOs then delete your account here and move on with your life. I can assure you no one will say "where did salenger go?"... we'll somehow move on with our lives. Everyone here can just as easily NOT preorder the game, do the OB, try it out, and if they are still not sure then they don't have to buy the game. People hype up the game, no one else. You can throw as much PR at a game release but if people don't bite, there is no hype.
wow great input yet again, so thankful.
Definitely cancel your order if you feel that a game company is obligated to give you free game time while they have pumped endless amounts of cash developing said game for 3 years,also canceling will save us players from having to listen to your crying on the official boards of how Mythic ripped you off "or in reality your parents" of their money.
Noone is twisting your arms and making u buy this game so spare us your BS and put up or shuddup
The reason they complain is because half of them compare it to WoW, AoC, anything they felt has done them wrong, while the other half complains simply because they feel that they should be the very first people to play and it makes them mad having to wait another week. I hope the crybabies cancel, I hope the haters cancel too...but i also hope that they go out in the world...learn the meaning of their lives...learn to be MEN..grow a set...then come back realizing that the best things come to those that wait...
I said you "could" play 100 hours if you WANT to. See... "bro", I am explaining you have choices. Like I said, I will need 1-2 hours to decide if I like the game. If you need more, the time is there for you to take advantage.
Dude, that's only 3-4 hours a day...
You accuse everyone else of complaining, yet you have an avatar saying failcum...how ironic.
The fact is Mythic is using techniques very similar to AOC. Only a few days of Open beta (and you need to pre-order to get in), only a few days of open beta..etc.
And as I read the forums, I recognize all of the comments from fanbois are very similar to what AOC fanbois said a couple months back.
IS it possible for a good release? Yes. But in my eyes, it's just not worth the risk.
__________________________________________________
In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08 - Rest In Peace; you will not be forgotten
You guys are too funny. Cancelling a preorder doesnt' cost you anything. Play the game for a week and if you dont' like it, cancel. I mean it really isn't a big deal and Mark had already specificially said that open beta will not be long. It is a brief chance to try the game for the players and a way for them to test system load as a developer. Mark also said he wants to drop the NDA well before open beta starts so I still expect the NDA down in the next week.
WAR isn't like AOC where the first 20 levels are completely different than the rest of the game. That was something pretty unique to AOC, never had a situation like that in any other mmorpg I've played. I find it sad that WAR is going to lose players because AOC was such an utter failure.
....
I never thought there would be so many blind fanboys here, I spent 3 weeks on this forum and found most people rational but wow. This is EXACTLY the same behaviors that aoc fanboys had when someone tried to say something was bad about their game...
An Open Beta is meant as a Demo of the game for customers for the price of reporting bugs. Every single player game has a Demo and the Open Beta is that for mmos. Having only 1 week is not a problem for me because I play 2-3x more than the average player but for most people it's not enough to know enough to make a smart decision.
It defeats the whole purpose of preordering for those who have limited income and want to be certain before buying a game. We might as well wait for reviews of the game.
Don't take it wrong, I'm sure the game is going to be great but this doesn't change the fact that this is a very bad way to do things, especially considering the AOC fiasco. Mythic should know better than this. Me and my Archmage have gone from "Eager Fan" to "Wary Customer" and will now apply a Wait and See approach to this game
99 cents to play the game for over a week without having to commit to a full retail purchase, so what's all the crying about?
Haha, GG Funcom, going down and draging everyone you can with you.
learn to be MEN..grow a set...then come back realizing that the best things come to those that wait...
real men don't have to wait for sex.
The funny thing is , if AOC still wasn t out and months away, no one would even mention this as a problem. I understand your concerns, but this is average for most AAA MMOs. Just because AOC had a sub par product and well was hiding alot from it s future customer base does not mean Mythic is doing the same. First of all Mythic has let us testers test EVERYTHING, second they have let people know well in advance what they re adding or deleting for the released product. There has never been a time in the development of WAR especially now where i ve said, the game seems cool but what about this feature etc. They have told us everything we need to know. Bottom line is this is not AOC or FC, it s Mythic and they have been completely open with their product.
I for one will be making a list and checking it twice. Every thread that is created, every poster that cries outrage....will be checked on at live launch. For a good two weeks, I'll be searching through threads and pulling ever name on the list that I've taken....if you cried and wailed and acted like the most spoiled child because of news, OB dates, HS dates....and have come back (at launch) to sing WAR praises....be VERY certain I will make you eat your words and link your previous cry baby fit for all to see.
one -BIG- difference
AOC never lifted the NDA
Mythic has not either yet but once they do lift the NDA, that will set them apart
EQ2 fan sites
Myrdek there hasn't been true OB's since Lineage those days are gone.
When you have a game as popular as WaR you don't have a problem filling it with tester's.WaR is going gold whether you guys like it or not,"gold" meens its finished as in don't need beta testers.
Comparing Mythic to Funcom is just a joke,noone makes truly informed statements here they just regurgetate somthing they read or heard in passing.
Go get your money back save for college become a programmer found a development studio and make a better game.
Otherwise STFU
Good luck with this chief. Go get em! Can't believe someone cares as much as you mate.
That's kinda creepy. Get a life.
I think if companies are going to start doing it this way shouldn't call it open beta anymore. They should call it a pre-release preview. Because really that's all they ever are these days and doing it the way they do now gives people a totally different perception. All open beta has ever been in my experience is to try the game out for a week or two before you buy it. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
Funny thing is, I did study programming in college for a year and a half. Had a 94% average and I constantly skipped class, played games and never studied
Good luck with this chief. Go get em! Can't believe someone cares as much as you mate.
HA! Have you ever saw, heard or witnessed such a fit...that it was the ultimate pleasure (as the fit subsided and was replaced with a smiley, happy faced, ice-cream eating....disposition) to just point out what a complete fool they made themselves out to be? Is it me or are there others that find it pleasurable just to remind? That's all it is...but there is a hint of shadowy, malicious intent behind the many reminders I'm sure I'll be posting.
Well "pre-release preview" doesn't get the kiddies drooling, nor does it sound very convincing when someone trots out the old "I've played since pre-release preview
" badge of honor as a substitute for credibility in a forum argument. 
Only few days and then I can stop pretending that I got a live
Currently playing: N/A
Retired from: GW, WAR, Aion, LOTRO, Rift, SW:TOR, Vinductus
I can assure you that Mythic's release will be very different from Failcom's. I would not cancel anything if I were you, the game is simply amazing.
That's what I thought too, I read betaleak, I have tons of videos and am very hyped. But doing this insures that you can't cancel your preorder in time and is a very shady business practice. I thought they were better than this.
Better safe than sorry
Actually the only shady practice is trying to get something for nothing. In fact is it is the people that do this bait and switch order cancel crap that makes companies setup situations to weed out the scammers. This is a business like any other it costs money and if you have ever worked in the IT industry commercial server time is not free and bandwidth is not free. If you have worries about the game don't pre-order and buy live retail or wait 6 months for a buddy program. This plan is fairly standard similar to what LOTRO did and is fair. If you don’t like it cancel now please you have plenty of time to do so.
Relax people. Why are you freaking out? You have a week to test the game. They are going to lift the NDA soon, and you will hear from thousands of people how good the game is. Then you will have a week to try it. You will have plenty of time to cancel pre orders. They are operating on a whole different level than Funcom, and this will be nothing like AoC. Just relax. It's just open beta. The characters don't carry over.