DAMNIT MAN we dont want it to kill it, ONLY be a competator. Why? because if you have 2 games competing then the consumer wins because that means they will work harder to win.
Dur, I hate to post in such a dumb thread (I don't post a lot!), but PureChaos is absolutely correct. More good games = way better. If WAR does well and WoW continues to do well (subscription speaking) it only means that both games will be trying harder to be awesome. And how is that bad?
Also, while its been mentioned tons before, WOW vs <insert newer mmo> threads are super lame. Lamer than replying to one? Maybe not.
Yeah, WAR isn't going to be killing anything, sorry, other then (possibly and hopefully) AoC. 500K - 1 Mil average subscribers (that's very hopeful thinking) ever in a month max.
Seriously though, why does it even matter...? Who gives a crap, it's a decent game, people will like it and others will hate it. All that really matters is if it is fun... for myself, it is somewhat entertaining, so that's good enough for me. I doubt it will keep me entertained enough to keep playing it until games like CO, MO, GW2, and KOTORMMO (supposedly, just rumors as of now) come out though. There's only so much of the same old same old I can take.
WAR isn't a WOW-killer, yet anyway, but it definitely has potential to grow steadily over time as WoW bleeds off customers.
I think WoW has maybe another two years before it's just too outdated to sustain it's massive player base. If WAR can expand and improve over the next two years,with subscriptions increasing over time, it may assume the MMO crown as WoW fades.
DAMNIT MAN we dont want it to kill it, ONLY be a competator. Why? because if you have 2 games competing then the consumer wins because that means they will work harder to win.
well said.
also WAR and WoW are two very different games, I do not think that WAR will kill WoW, BUT it will give people that are looking for something very different a game to play.
WAR and WoW are on two different sides of the playing field.
No, no leach players... no, not hurt it... just plain kill it... in 1 year. WAR will be the most played MMO in the occident.
I thought WAR would not be able to beat WoW beacuase, imo, most of the MMO population doesn't like PvP. And, after all, RvR is PvP. I thought WAR, in the best case, could reach 1 million players, becoming the second most played MMO. And in the worst case, it would have like 200-400k
But after seeing AoC still have 400k (onyl God knows how) and after seeing all these WoW trolls that come here desperated to bash WAR... I am starting to think this is like when animals perceive an apocalyptic event is coming.
I believe the WoW fanbois feel the end is near.
They are experimenting the five steps of Gried. Denial the truth about WAR. Some are already in anger (trolling and even lying). Soon we will see them bargaining. Then they will get depressed and, finally, they will accept the truth and buy WAR.
Don't worry, WoW fanbois, we will always accept you all... you wont have to create new MMO accounts to post in here (hiding the you convert yourself). We understand your frustration. Your game suck big time and it lacks of PvP (anyone thinking WoW has PvP should go to see a shrink). We will create some program to recover you all. Maybe we will call it "How to have fun without pve raiding for 36 hours?".
Welcome to the end of WoW!!!
(Yes, I have to troll... come on! After all the trolling I have had to read these past days, don't I have the right to, at least, troll once?! hehe)
The only serious thing I will say in this post to the people coming to these forums looking for truth facts: try the game and see for yourself, if you like it or not. If you like it, play it. If not, don't. All the rest discussed here are just opinions.
What a joke, haha. Good one. WAR will do well, but if you think it's gonna kill WoW you are dellusional.
I don't know why the fuck I'm posting in here but....Keeper2000 I agree with u man but WAR will not kill WoW...I hate WoW but Blizzard just brainwashed those poor kids so they will buy WotLK and play for another 2 years, then some of them will reach 21, you know, parties, alcohol, drugs, sex and WAR. So the mmorpg.com forums doesn't need another thread about WoW vs WAR.
Those guys defending WoW need to pre-order WAR get into the Open Beta reach Rank 20, do some real RvR, Scenarios, PQs etc etc and see that the game is fun as hell and will say....WoW was good but WAR is way better.
I'm not a fanboy of wow by any means but I've heard this same tired stuff for years now every time a game comes out. WoW isn't going anywhere any time soon they have an expansion due out sometime soon so they are not running in fear. There are plenty of MMO players out there to support both games. WoW does not have to shut down to make way for another game. If this game is good it will do well no matter what WoW does or doesn't do. I think this game will be kind of like conan. Big sales up front with all the hype but probably not keep the majority of them. I really like the look of the game and the design but I can't really get past the slow and somewhat clumsy combat that seems to just be a massive zerg in pvp. I'm sure it gets alot more involved later in the game but it still feels very scripted.
Well,
First I will start by saying most of the comments you made are terrible speculation without any substance. Secondly I will try to respond without enabling to much of this "trollerism."
Saying "I've heard the same tired stuff for years now," doesn't automatically make the game just as unimportant or worthless as the ones that were put in their place. AoC for example, was hyped like crazy, people played it, realized what it was and let it be, it didn't kill wow, but the hype certainly gave wow players something to rave about" The reality is, AoC was terrible, is terrible, it's a one-shot fest and still has so many problems many months after release.
Warhammer is NOT those games, warhammer is a well-thought out diverse, extremely tested game, that has a company with a lot of experience in MMO's backing it up. It's not failcom, or some nobody chargin' in with their promises of victory over wow. It's warhammer, a well-known community fan based game that will have immediately more success over AoC simply based on that. Further, it will do much better than any of those other "WoW Killers" Simply becuase the game is vastly superior to all of them.
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, Preview Weekend > AoC and all other wannabe "WoW Killers"
EDIT: Wrath of the Lich King will accomplish gathering a few more people to come back, grind out an even longer 10 more levels, start completely over with their gear, becuase all the endless arena hours and battleground hours, and PvE raiding will be rendered useless. Once they do that, beat the new zone, realize it's the same damn game only with 10 more levels, a few more abilities, and one more class added, people will quickly get bored again, and start to look elsewhere for entertainment. Where better than a brand new successful game -- Warhammer Online
-- Games are never as fun as their hype. It's still doing the same things as 90% of the MMOs ever since EQ1 wrote the template for 3D MMOs.
-- You can't ever be that newbie again. Not Warhammer, not WoW, not AoC, or any other MMO out there claiming originality.
-- You, I, and many other people won't be satisfied until once again we can be immersed,as newbs once more, into a mysterious realm of which we know nothing.
hehe After venting with this thread, I feel much better.
But I will talk serious:
It's amazing how people just reply to Thread titles or to the first or last posts... I always thought that was the main cause why threads get out of the initial subject that was discussed. Most people reading the first posts should understand that I was joking. Some did, most didn't.
I had to say that when I was just waiting for silly discussions some people replied what I consider intelligent positions. One specially is the why to discuss this vs that game? The other point they made is having many MMO brings competition, which brings better service. Having options it's always the best anyone can have.
I do think WAR will have many many people playing it. It will take some of the WoW players and it will leach from others MMO too. It wont kill WoW and, in the long term, it may even push Blizzard to improve the PvP in it.
I was curious and I went to WoW forums in this site to see what was say there. I usually dont read or try to post in forums of game I dont play or want to play or in games I am not interested with, so I wasnt reading that post. But after seeing some many people bashing WAR and defending WoW in here and actually making serious WAR vs WoW posts, I wanted to check how the WoW MMORPG.com community was acting. So I went and read it.
I, of course, found fanbois and trolls. Some people there is bashing WoW in the name of the WAR crusade, as some people in here do the opposite.
But I found many people actually discussing in a mature way (Dam it! Arent you all 10 years kids, WoW players? hehehe... it seems you arent).
I saw many threads discussing the impact of WAR on WoW there.
I decided to continue trying to express my opinion in this forum on what WAR is and I will try not to bash WoW... I dont mean I bash it in here (this was a big joke as you can see in the OP post) but I did bash it in other posts when I said WoW PvP sucks (in resume). I would try to express my opinion as it should be: saying I dont like WoW PvP but not by bashing it.
Why? Because all the people in WoW forums that actually discussed intelligent deserves respect for their game. I shouldnt had generalize the WoW community because a few trolls come here defending that game (which in the end I think they dont even know WoW neither). I really understood the mentality of these trolls when I saw the people in WoW forums bashing WoW and defending WAR like maniacs.
So my apologies to the WoW community for mocking. I should had directly mocked the trolls and not the game they said they defend.
I wish WoW and all MMOs, that exist and that may be release soon, the best. The more good MMOs we have, the best chances for getting some fun we have.
PS. I think mmorpg mods should lock this thread... it's obviously a troll one hehe
The truth is... We all can sit here and bash/praise WoW and WAR but it's all crap, the new game excitement always has people overlooking the truth about a game till it's time to start paying that monthly fee. I've been in beta for awhile and if anyone can honestly sit here and say WAR combat is smooth and polished should also throw in that WoW world pvp is awesome.
The truth is... We all can sit here and bash/praise WoW and WAR but it's all crap, the new game excitement always has people overlooking the truth about a game till it's time to start paying that monthly fee. I've been in beta for awhile and if anyone can honestly sit here and say WAR combat is smooth and polished should also throw in that WoW world pvp is awesome.
One is still in Beta, the other is a fully finished product, but your right WoW's PvP was like an add on that really was badly implemented
People still getting overhyped about a game. Haven't all of you learned by AoC? By Vanguard? You'd think that people would learn by now... oh well, if you have nothing better to do than bash and overhype games go for it I guess.
People still getting overhyped about a game. Haven't all of you learned by AoC? By Vanguard? You'd think that people would learn by now... oh well, if you have nothing better to do than bash and overhype games go for it I guess.
There's barely any over hype its just for once people speaking postively or atleast not uber negative. The NDA Has lifted and the reports are mostly overwhelmly positive instead of OMG they're not lifting the NDA this thing is trash! They did a preview weekend inviting pre orders and closed beta testers non NDA covered and things are mostly positive as in most of what people have to say is nit picking or a few bug concerns. How is that over hyping?
Over hyping is 100,000 aoc troll fanboys going OMG this game PWNS its Mature who cares if you don't get to play anything past NOOB island! There was never any proof that AoC was any good past the hype, everyone KNEW Vanguard was bad before it launched so i hardly call the 1,000 cries OMG they blew up Aldaraan hype for Vanguard.
I think people are misusing the word hype at this point. The only hypers going on are the people who keep posting crap about how the game is going to own other games etc. I like WAR I Think its a great game and it'll carve its self a nice spot in the MMO market but I'd hardly call it a Game killer..though it might help polish off some of AoC.
we've had enough of the wow fanbois and trolls tbh, and this is just ASKING for their contribution. But i have to agree with the OP, WAR is looking like it'll kill WoW within a year or 2.
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Originally posted by Dreawing I have to agree and disagree a bit. Your right wow players are denying the truth that wow will be kill. Wow will be killed by warhammer how? easy in NA and europe subs. Because? Warhammer is popular in those two areas and the game is really fun and beats the shit out wow. People will see that warhammer will be a great game. Only reason wow will survive is.. Asia! reason because. Warcraft is powerful in Asia. All there subs come from Asia. Wow and starcraft were made for the asia people. They don't know what warhammer is and will never know because there hook on it. They have game shows for starcraft that's why there making the game better for them. - Wow 6 mill comes from asia
Your right wow players are denying the truth that wow will be kill. Wow will be killed by warhammer how?
easy in NA and europe subs. Because? Warhammer is popular in those two areas and the game is really fun and beats the shit out wow. People will see that warhammer will be a great game.
Only reason wow will survive is.. Asia! reason because. Warcraft is powerful in Asia. All there subs come from Asia. Wow and starcraft were made for the asia people. They don't know what warhammer is and will never know because there hook on it.
They have game shows for starcraft that's why there making the game better for them.
- Wow 6 mill comes from asia
you sir are a idiot if u believe that.
....
it's true that 6 million of WoW's population is Asian, the majority of whom play WoW for a living (gold farming).
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Well it seems to me you're the on in denial...because JBB is one of the Beta Testers...where as as far as I can tell you're going on pure speculation...don't get me wrong I am going to try out WAR for myself...but my guess is IF Mythic treats it's customer base the way Funcom has it's customer base it doesn't matter how good or what the potential is...I mean they haven't even offered the Collector's Edition in the U.S. but it's available for Per-Order in Europe...it will fail...
I disagree. The combat is so bad in WAR I don't see it succeeding at all.
Denial is the first step... you soon will be in the anger one. /hugs
Well it seems to me you're the on in denial...because JBB is one of the Beta Testers...where as as far as I can tell you're going on pure speculation...don't get me wrong I am going to try out WAR for myself...but my guess is IF Mythic treats it's customer base the way Funcom has it's customer base it doesn't matter how good or what the potential is...I mean they haven't even offered the Collector's Edition in the U.S. but it's available for Per-Order in Europe...it will fail...
I disagree. The combat is so bad in WAR I don't see it succeeding at all.
Denial is the first step... you soon will be in the anger one. /hugs
Well it seems to me you're the on in denial...because JBB is one of the Beta Testers...where as as far as I can tell you're going on pure speculation...don't get me wrong I am going to try out WAR for myself...but my guess is IF Mythic treats it's customer base the way Funcom has it's customer base it doesn't matter how good or what the potential is...I mean they haven't even offered the Collector's Edition in the U.S. but it's available for Per-Order in Europe...it will fail...
If you had actually read careful my OP and even my last post, you would know better. And you will know that I was joking to JonnyBigBoss because he did troll my troll post unless you think because he said he is a beta testar the phrase "The combat is so bad in WAR I don't see it succeeding at all" must be thruth. Actually that phrase is just an opnion giving as a fact.
Anyway, I am a beta tester too. Following your logic on discussion I must be as right as him. And I think WAR combat is not bad (it's actually a very fun one) and I do see it succeeding. So, now, you have a problem with regarding who is right, dont you? In the end, no one is right and maybe the truth is something in the middle. But believe Jhonnyigboss because he is a beta tester... he must be right!
Anyway, my opening post was just directed to people who actually were bashing the game with actually lies. There is guy who had actually repeated like 10 times that there is no charge in WAR! LOL They said combat was slow and that WoW is faster! Then they knew the GCD is lower than WoW but there is another guy who keeps repeating the same statement once and again. These are facts... not opinions. So I trolled them but...
I did very wrong in attacking WoW as a way to point out the trolling. Why? Because, as I said, in my last post in this thread, the WoW community should not have their game bashed because some trolls use WoW to troll WAR. The WoW community is suffering the same as us: there are people in theri forum bashing WoW in the name of WAR.
I should had done this vent thread not that WAR killing WoW... I should just mocked the trolls and leave any game out of it. For that I apiologize again to the WoW community.
About the CE... what did you want to say? Asking because CE was offered in USA. Did you want to say they didnt offered it in Europe? You didnt make much sense. Mythic had been treating it's community extremely well, imo. Altough I know that Europe will be manage by GOA. Why are you supposing europeans will suffer something similar as Funcom did? Asking so you can explain it better because I hadnt been follow much of the Europe release (mainly becasue I wont play in euro servers so I dont care) but I think you should express any problem euro is having and maybe even create a thread (I mean post the problem in a serious thread and not in a comical one like this one I made).
Btw, can you make your sign a little smaller? hehe it's tooooo big
DAMNIT MAN we dont want it to kill it, ONLY be a competator. Why? because if you have 2 games competing then the consumer wins because that means they will work harder to win.
YES!! Competition is a good thing! Unless Blizzard buys the exclusive rights to use the term "MMORPG".. AHEM..COUGH COUGH EA SPORTS COUGH..
Well it seems to me you're the on in denial...because JBB is one of the Beta Testers...where as as far as I can tell you're going on pure speculation...don't get me wrong I am going to try out WAR for myself...but my guess is IF Mythic treats it's customer base the way Funcom has it's customer base it doesn't matter how good or what the potential is...I mean they haven't even offered the Collector's Edition in the U.S. but it's available for Per-Order in Europe...it will fail...
Huh? What are you talking about not offering the CE in the US? They have been the exact opposite of Funcom and have been extremely open with everything wrong with their game and what they plan on doing to fix it. You are also basing denial on JBB who, even though is a beta tester, is in the vast minority of beta testers who dislike the game. Hell there may only be one or two that troll around here compared to the hundreds who enjoy it.
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We dont want all the wow fanboys in WAR plx.
http://www.guilduniverse.com/waaagh - New Danish Warhammer Online GUILD!
Dur, I hate to post in such a dumb thread (I don't post a lot!), but PureChaos is absolutely correct. More good games = way better. If WAR does well and WoW continues to do well (subscription speaking) it only means that both games will be trying harder to be awesome. And how is that bad?
Also, while its been mentioned tons before, WOW vs <insert newer mmo> threads are super lame. Lamer than replying to one? Maybe not.
lol, hardcore mmo player. Put that on your resume.
lol...
Yeah, WAR isn't going to be killing anything, sorry, other then (possibly and hopefully) AoC. 500K - 1 Mil average subscribers (that's very hopeful thinking) ever in a month max.
Seriously though, why does it even matter...? Who gives a crap, it's a decent game, people will like it and others will hate it. All that really matters is if it is fun... for myself, it is somewhat entertaining, so that's good enough for me. I doubt it will keep me entertained enough to keep playing it until games like CO, MO, GW2, and KOTORMMO (supposedly, just rumors as of now) come out though. There's only so much of the same old same old I can take.
WAR isn't a WOW-killer, yet anyway, but it definitely has potential to grow steadily over time as WoW bleeds off customers.
I think WoW has maybe another two years before it's just too outdated to sustain it's massive player base. If WAR can expand and improve over the next two years,with subscriptions increasing over time, it may assume the MMO crown as WoW fades.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
well said.
also WAR and WoW are two very different games, I do not think that WAR will kill WoW, BUT it will give people that are looking for something very different a game to play.
WAR and WoW are on two different sides of the playing field.
You need to put more effort in your trolling.
What a joke, haha. Good one. WAR will do well, but if you think it's gonna kill WoW you are dellusional.
I don't know why the fuck I'm posting in here but....Keeper2000 I agree with u man but WAR will not kill WoW...I hate WoW but Blizzard just brainwashed those poor kids so they will buy WotLK and play for another 2 years, then some of them will reach 21, you know, parties, alcohol, drugs, sex and WAR. So the mmorpg.com forums doesn't need another thread about WoW vs WAR.
Those guys defending WoW need to pre-order WAR get into the Open Beta reach Rank 20, do some real RvR, Scenarios, PQs etc etc and see that the game is fun as hell and will say....WoW was good but WAR is way better.
GG see ya in the Battlefield
Well,
First I will start by saying most of the comments you made are terrible speculation without any substance. Secondly I will try to respond without enabling to much of this "trollerism."
Saying "I've heard the same tired stuff for years now," doesn't automatically make the game just as unimportant or worthless as the ones that were put in their place. AoC for example, was hyped like crazy, people played it, realized what it was and let it be, it didn't kill wow, but the hype certainly gave wow players something to rave about" The reality is, AoC was terrible, is terrible, it's a one-shot fest and still has so many problems many months after release.
Warhammer is NOT those games, warhammer is a well-thought out diverse, extremely tested game, that has a company with a lot of experience in MMO's backing it up. It's not failcom, or some nobody chargin' in with their promises of victory over wow. It's warhammer, a well-known community fan based game that will have immediately more success over AoC simply based on that. Further, it will do much better than any of those other "WoW Killers" Simply becuase the game is vastly superior to all of them.
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, Preview Weekend > AoC and all other wannabe "WoW Killers"
EDIT: Wrath of the Lich King will accomplish gathering a few more people to come back, grind out an even longer 10 more levels, start completely over with their gear, becuase all the endless arena hours and battleground hours, and PvE raiding will be rendered useless. Once they do that, beat the new zone, realize it's the same damn game only with 10 more levels, a few more abilities, and one more class added, people will quickly get bored again, and start to look elsewhere for entertainment. Where better than a brand new successful game -- Warhammer Online
-- Games are never as fun as their hype. It's still doing the same things as 90% of the MMOs ever since EQ1 wrote the template for 3D MMOs.
-- You can't ever be that newbie again. Not Warhammer, not WoW, not AoC, or any other MMO out there claiming originality.
-- You, I, and many other people won't be satisfied until once again we can be immersed,as newbs once more, into a mysterious realm of which we know nothing.
Very good post
I agree with you... except when it comes to one game. Hello Kitty Online... I mean come on! WoW killer! AMIRITE?
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
hehe After venting with this thread, I feel much better.
But I will talk serious:
It's amazing how people just reply to Thread titles or to the first or last posts... I always thought that was the main cause why threads get out of the initial subject that was discussed. Most people reading the first posts should understand that I was joking. Some did, most didn't.
I had to say that when I was just waiting for silly discussions some people replied what I consider intelligent positions. One specially is the why to discuss this vs that game? The other point they made is having many MMO brings competition, which brings better service. Having options it's always the best anyone can have.
I do think WAR will have many many people playing it. It will take some of the WoW players and it will leach from others MMO too. It wont kill WoW and, in the long term, it may even push Blizzard to improve the PvP in it.
I was curious and I went to WoW forums in this site to see what was say there. I usually dont read or try to post in forums of game I dont play or want to play or in games I am not interested with, so I wasnt reading that post. But after seeing some many people bashing WAR and defending WoW in here and actually making serious WAR vs WoW posts, I wanted to check how the WoW MMORPG.com community was acting. So I went and read it.
I, of course, found fanbois and trolls. Some people there is bashing WoW in the name of the WAR crusade, as some people in here do the opposite.
But I found many people actually discussing in a mature way (Dam it! Arent you all 10 years kids, WoW players? hehehe... it seems you arent).
I saw many threads discussing the impact of WAR on WoW there.
I decided to continue trying to express my opinion in this forum on what WAR is and I will try not to bash WoW... I dont mean I bash it in here (this was a big joke as you can see in the OP post) but I did bash it in other posts when I said WoW PvP sucks (in resume). I would try to express my opinion as it should be: saying I dont like WoW PvP but not by bashing it.
Why? Because all the people in WoW forums that actually discussed intelligent deserves respect for their game. I shouldnt had generalize the WoW community because a few trolls come here defending that game (which in the end I think they dont even know WoW neither). I really understood the mentality of these trolls when I saw the people in WoW forums bashing WoW and defending WAR like maniacs.
So my apologies to the WoW community for mocking. I should had directly mocked the trolls and not the game they said they defend.
I wish WoW and all MMOs, that exist and that may be release soon, the best. The more good MMOs we have, the best chances for getting some fun we have.
PS. I think mmorpg mods should lock this thread... it's obviously a troll one hehe
WAR And WoW and very diffrent games plz stop comparing them
The truth is... We all can sit here and bash/praise WoW and WAR but it's all crap, the new game excitement always has people overlooking the truth about a game till it's time to start paying that monthly fee. I've been in beta for awhile and if anyone can honestly sit here and say WAR combat is smooth and polished should also throw in that WoW world pvp is awesome.
One is still in Beta, the other is a fully finished product, but your right WoW's PvP was like an add on that really was badly implemented
People still getting overhyped about a game. Haven't all of you learned by AoC? By Vanguard? You'd think that people would learn by now... oh well, if you have nothing better to do than bash and overhype games go for it I guess.
http://spellborn.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
There's barely any over hype its just for once people speaking postively or atleast not uber negative. The NDA Has lifted and the reports are mostly overwhelmly positive instead of OMG they're not lifting the NDA this thing is trash! They did a preview weekend inviting pre orders and closed beta testers non NDA covered and things are mostly positive as in most of what people have to say is nit picking or a few bug concerns. How is that over hyping?
Over hyping is 100,000 aoc troll fanboys going OMG this game PWNS its Mature who cares if you don't get to play anything past NOOB island! There was never any proof that AoC was any good past the hype, everyone KNEW Vanguard was bad before it launched so i hardly call the 1,000 cries OMG they blew up Aldaraan hype for Vanguard.
I think people are misusing the word hype at this point. The only hypers going on are the people who keep posting crap about how the game is going to own other games etc. I like WAR I Think its a great game and it'll carve its self a nice spot in the MMO market but I'd hardly call it a Game killer..though it might help polish off some of AoC.
we've had enough of the wow fanbois and trolls tbh, and this is just ASKING for their contribution. But i have to agree with the OP, WAR is looking like it'll kill WoW within a year or 2.
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Will play: not WAR, HELLO KITTY ONLINE!!11one
Playing: EVE
Played: EQ (+all expansions too), Asheron''s Call 2, Anarchy Online, Planet Side, EQ2, WoW (+TBC), EVE
you sir are a idiot if u believe that.
you sir are a idiot if u believe that.
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it's true that 6 million of WoW's population is Asian, the majority of whom play WoW for a living (gold farming).
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Will play: not WAR, HELLO KITTY ONLINE!!11one
Playing: EVE
Played: EQ (+all expansions too), Asheron''s Call 2, Anarchy Online, Planet Side, EQ2, WoW (+TBC), EVE
Well it seems to me you're the on in denial...because JBB is one of the Beta Testers...where as as far as I can tell you're going on pure speculation...don't get me wrong I am going to try out WAR for myself...but my guess is IF Mythic treats it's customer base the way Funcom has it's customer base it doesn't matter how good or what the potential is...I mean they haven't even offered the Collector's Edition in the U.S. but it's available for Per-Order in Europe...it will fail...
Denial is the first step... you soon will be in the anger one. /hugs
Well it seems to me you're the on in denial...because JBB is one of the Beta Testers...where as as far as I can tell you're going on pure speculation...don't get me wrong I am going to try out WAR for myself...but my guess is IF Mythic treats it's customer base the way Funcom has it's customer base it doesn't matter how good or what the potential is...I mean they haven't even offered the Collector's Edition in the U.S. but it's available for Per-Order in Europe...it will fail...
Denial is the first step... you soon will be in the anger one. /hugs
Well it seems to me you're the on in denial...because JBB is one of the Beta Testers...where as as far as I can tell you're going on pure speculation...don't get me wrong I am going to try out WAR for myself...but my guess is IF Mythic treats it's customer base the way Funcom has it's customer base it doesn't matter how good or what the potential is...I mean they haven't even offered the Collector's Edition in the U.S. but it's available for Per-Order in Europe...it will fail...
If you had actually read careful my OP and even my last post, you would know better. And you will know that I was joking to JonnyBigBoss because he did troll my troll post unless you think because he said he is a beta testar the phrase "The combat is so bad in WAR I don't see it succeeding at all" must be thruth. Actually that phrase is just an opnion giving as a fact.
Anyway, I am a beta tester too. Following your logic on discussion I must be as right as him. And I think WAR combat is not bad (it's actually a very fun one) and I do see it succeeding. So, now, you have a problem with regarding who is right, dont you? In the end, no one is right and maybe the truth is something in the middle. But believe Jhonnyigboss because he is a beta tester... he must be right!
Anyway, my opening post was just directed to people who actually were bashing the game with actually lies. There is guy who had actually repeated like 10 times that there is no charge in WAR! LOL They said combat was slow and that WoW is faster! Then they knew the GCD is lower than WoW but there is another guy who keeps repeating the same statement once and again. These are facts... not opinions. So I trolled them but...
I did very wrong in attacking WoW as a way to point out the trolling. Why? Because, as I said, in my last post in this thread, the WoW community should not have their game bashed because some trolls use WoW to troll WAR. The WoW community is suffering the same as us: there are people in theri forum bashing WoW in the name of WAR.
I should had done this vent thread not that WAR killing WoW... I should just mocked the trolls and leave any game out of it. For that I apiologize again to the WoW community.
About the CE... what did you want to say? Asking because CE was offered in USA. Did you want to say they didnt offered it in Europe? You didnt make much sense. Mythic had been treating it's community extremely well, imo. Altough I know that Europe will be manage by GOA. Why are you supposing europeans will suffer something similar as Funcom did? Asking so you can explain it better because I hadnt been follow much of the Europe release (mainly becasue I wont play in euro servers so I dont care) but I think you should express any problem euro is having and maybe even create a thread (I mean post the problem in a serious thread and not in a comical one like this one I made).
Btw, can you make your sign a little smaller? hehe it's tooooo big
YES!! Competition is a good thing! Unless Blizzard buys the exclusive rights to use the term "MMORPG".. AHEM..COUGH COUGH EA SPORTS COUGH..
Huh? What are you talking about not offering the CE in the US? They have been the exact opposite of Funcom and have been extremely open with everything wrong with their game and what they plan on doing to fix it. You are also basing denial on JBB who, even though is a beta tester, is in the vast minority of beta testers who dislike the game. Hell there may only be one or two that troll around here compared to the hundreds who enjoy it.