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thats still no excuse....chronicles of spellborn has been in production for 3-4 years and they have so mush more to show than darkfall...and there team is just as small...if not even smaller
Who says Darkfall creaters even know what they're doing.
well if in seven years they still dont know what they are doing then they are pretty....eh..stupid i guess
i mean you can go to colleage and learn game programming/or designing in only 3 years....and with that you can make games....they have had double that and more to learn how to program and make a game...
I wouldn't call them stupid because I don't know them. I'm just debating about if the game actually exists or not and giving an opinion on the explanation. We can't prove the game doesn't exist and we can't prove that is does but these guys also have to learn the new technology when it comes out and their plan for their game will take alot of professional coders and honestly I dont think they're very professional.
if new technology held people back this much then games would never be released.
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thats still no excuse....chronicles of spellborn has been in production for 3-4 years and they have so mush more to show than darkfall...and there team is just as small...if not even smaller
Who says Darkfall creaters even know what they're doing.
well if in seven years they still dont know what they are doing then they are pretty....eh..stupid i guess
i mean you can go to colleage and learn game programming/or designing in only 3 years....and with that you can make games....they have had double that and more to learn how to program and make a game...
I wouldn't call them stupid because I don't know them. I'm just debating about if the game actually exists or not and giving an opinion on the explanation. We can't prove the game doesn't exist and we can't prove that is does but these guys also have to learn the new technology when it comes out and their plan for their game will take alot of professional coders and honestly I dont think they're very professional.
if new technology held people back this much then games would never be released.
LOL ya i want the game to come out and believe it exists but im not a fanboi and until someone gets some solid proof that they are just pulling our leg (which they have no reason to) then I will believe that the game is a lie but the fact that all people have is that the game is taking them over 7years and that they haven't had a live beta (that we know of) isn't enough because there is no 100% fact about the game but I believe it exists because there isn't a reason for them to lie.
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You have a valid point. Just look at how FC screws over their own investors with hype.
That said, investors have the oppertunity to get information on an whole other level than us simple consumers can. If I had 10 million dollars to invest, I would be sure I got to see the game, code etc. on a regular basis. And if the company needed my cash, they would comply. If the investors didn't do what they could to secure their investment, well that is their own fault.
And really, I have no sympathy for stupid people.
So how can we fanbois be so sure DF exist ? Well, we can't but we haven't actually put any cash into it to "demand answers" as investors could either
Personally, I belive there is such a company named Aventurine and they are developing a game called Darkfall Online. I base this on the fact that 10-12 norwegians uprooted and moved to Greece in late 2002. That is like 4 hobbits leaving the Shire to fight Sauron. It doesn't happen that often. Also there are tons of information on the net for the search savvy.
That said, I don't know what features will be in the game. I will not put any cash up front in an preorder, I will use the option of a free trial.
My stand is "Trust but verify".
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In the end...
Common sense > Hype.
"No Darkfall" or "Crappy game" > "Best mmo ever" ........in the rational dept.
In the emotional/fantasy/hope depts, sure Darkfall wins out and I hope it succeeds. But I just can't go on hype alone for year after year after year without enough concrete evidence to support such "hope"
Darkfall has already FAILED at so many levels. Believing in it and anything Tasos ever says just gets harder and harder every day.
I don't know how you fans do it, day after day, lie after lie, disappointment after disappointment.
No offense, but didn't you just contradict yourself. I don't really much care for whatever this game is but what is this:
"They have created a small virtual area with water, some landscape, and some ships and crap. Then they have made a few pre-programmed "bots" to run around following their in game commands. From there, they have cameras that they can maneuver into any angle that suits their purpose for videos and screenshots etc."
For them to be in-game, wouldn't they need to be using some type of game engine? Therefore they actually have a game?
Sounds like you need a break from DF. I'm fine BTW because I relate to the finished product/free trial. Everything else is just information.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Indeed Maya would be easier
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
Yea the vast majority of fans have never said it will be the "best mmo ever". We all know it will be a niche game, which is all we want/need to have fun. Millions of subs does not = fun for anyone.
And actually common sense says that "a small developer company who is new to MMO development and marketing" > "omg hoax /tinfoilhat /hidefirstborn lol they are liars". people just have trouble thinking outside of that box they have been living in, or are spoiled by hype machines like funcom. They dont owe us anything, there would be nothing wrong from a business aspect if they gave us NOTHING until the game was gold if they felt they has a superior product and then marketed it hard for a few months before release. Sure it would be different.
How has it failed? Oh yea it hasnt. Until it releases and is a complete disaster (which is definitely a possibility), or if it runs out of funding and the publisher backs out and never releases, it hasnt failed. They may suck at marketing, but that isnt failing when the true test of their product has not begun yet.
There is always that debate about how long it has been in development. Do we start in 2003? if so do we add on time because some stuff had to be done already that carried over? Does it matter? No it doesn't really matter. Because the people who bash this game for taking long to develop...are also in other threads bashing developers for releasing unfinished products and saying they should have delayed it for another year to finish it. There is a word for people like this...cant seem to remember it....hypo something....hypopotemus? hypo.....hypo...hypoallergenic? hypo something...ill think of it...
Its called being a fan, and having an open mind. Both of which seem to be lost on many on this forum.
How do sports fans keep going when their team hasnt made the playoffs for 10 years? Because they dont value the world series ring, as nice as it would be, they value the experience and the love for the game.
Darkfall, on paper, is a great game to anyone who has the personality for the niche pvp it presents. And with all the garbage on the market today, it is the only thing that is promising in the near future.
We do it because we like MMOs. We love the game and we want to play one that we can have fun in. Anyone who cant see that needs to take some serious time to reflect about why they are here on this forum.
I have a guild that has been around since AC2 (yes it was founded on this lovely game), and the core members are all basically not playing MMOs since WoW got old for us. Darkfall is the one title that is universally drooled over for its feature list. WAR will probably have a guild with our name on it for the time being, but personally it isnt for me. So another reason we wait with hope is that it is a chance to reunite and have that community again. Yea that is a little touchy feely, but you asked how we do it.
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Yea the vast majority of fans have never said it will be the "best mmo ever". We all know it will be a niche game, which is all we want/need to have fun. Millions of subs does not = fun for anyone.
And actually common sense says that "a small developer company who is new to MMO development and marketing" > "omg hoax /tinfoilhat /hidefirstborn lol they are liars". people just have trouble thinking outside of that box they have been living in, or are spoiled by hype machines like funcom. They dont owe us anything, there would be nothing wrong from a business aspect if they gave us NOTHING until the game was gold if they felt they has a superior product and then marketed it hard for a few months before release. Sure it would be different.
How has it failed? Oh yea it hasnt. Until it releases and is a complete disaster (which is definitely a possibility), or if it runs out of funding and the publisher backs out and never releases, it hasnt failed. They may suck at marketing, but that isnt failing when the true test of their product has not begun yet.
There is always that debate about how long it has been in development. Do we start in 2003? if so do we add on time because some stuff had to be done already that carried over? Does it matter? No it doesn't really matter. Because the people who bash this game for taking long to develop...are also in other threads bashing developers for releasing unfinished products and saying they should have delayed it for another year to finish it. There is a word for people like this...cant seem to remember it....hypo something....hypopotemus? hypo.....hypo...hypoallergenic? hypo something...ill think of it...
Its called being a fan, and having an open mind. Both of which seem to be lost on many on this forum.
How do sports fans keep going when their team hasnt made the playoffs for 10 years? Because they dont value the world series ring, as nice as it would be, they value the experience and the love for the game.
Darkfall, on paper, is a great game to anyone who has the personality for the niche pvp it presents. And with all the garbage on the market today, it is the only thing that is promising in the near future.
We do it because we like MMOs. We love the game and we want to play one that we can have fun in. Anyone who cant see that needs to take some serious time to reflect about why they are here on this forum.
I have a guild that has been around since AC2 (yes it was founded on this lovely game), and the core members are all basically not playing MMOs since WoW got old for us. Darkfall is the one title that is universally drooled over for its feature list. WAR will probably have a guild with our name on it for the time being, but personally it isnt for me. So another reason we wait with hope is that it is a chance to reunite and have that community again. Yea that is a little touchy feely, but you asked how we do it.
This is a VERY good post and i agree fully with everything you says.
My guild is in just about the same position as yours and Darkfall will hopefully be the game that bring us all together again. All guys that have ever been in our guild is signed for Darkfall. And i sure do miss the old bastards. Cant wait for us to come together again.
This is my main motivation cause no other game out there or in development will make this happen.
Yea the vast majority of fans have never said it will be the "best mmo ever". We all know it will be a niche game, which is all we want/need to have fun. Millions of subs does not = fun for anyone.
And actually common sense says that "a small developer company who is new to MMO development and marketing" > "omg hoax /tinfoilhat /hidefirstborn lol they are liars". people just have trouble thinking outside of that box they have been living in, or are spoiled by hype machines like funcom. They dont owe us anything, there would be nothing wrong from a business aspect if they gave us NOTHING until the game was gold if they felt they has a superior product and then marketed it hard for a few months before release. Sure it would be different.
How has it failed? Oh yea it hasnt. Until it releases and is a complete disaster (which is definitely a possibility), or if it runs out of funding and the publisher backs out and never releases, it hasnt failed. They may suck at marketing, but that isnt failing when the true test of their product has not begun yet.
There is always that debate about how long it has been in development. Do we start in 2003? if so do we add on time because some stuff had to be done already that carried over? Does it matter? No it doesn't really matter. Because the people who bash this game for taking long to develop...are also in other threads bashing developers for releasing unfinished products and saying they should have delayed it for another year to finish it. There is a word for people like this...cant seem to remember it....hypo something....hypopotemus? hypo.....hypo...hypoallergenic? hypo something...ill think of it...
Its called being a fan, and having an open mind. Both of which seem to be lost on many on this forum.
How do sports fans keep going when their team hasnt made the playoffs for 10 years? Because they dont value the world series ring, as nice as it would be, they value the experience and the love for the game.
Darkfall, on paper, is a great game to anyone who has the personality for the niche pvp it presents. And with all the garbage on the market today, it is the only thing that is promising in the near future.
We do it because we like MMOs. We love the game and we want to play one that we can have fun in. Anyone who cant see that needs to take some serious time to reflect about why they are here on this forum.
I have a guild that has been around since AC2 (yes it was founded on this lovely game), and the core members are all basically not playing MMOs since WoW got old for us. Darkfall is the one title that is universally drooled over for its feature list. WAR will probably have a guild with our name on it for the time being, but personally it isnt for me. So another reason we wait with hope is that it is a chance to reunite and have that community again. Yea that is a little touchy feely, but you asked how we do it.
This is a VERY good post and i agree fully with everything you says.
My guild is in just about the same position as yours and Darkfall will hopefully be the game that bring us all together again. All guys that have ever been in our guild is signed for Darkfall. And i sure do miss the old bastards. Cant wait for us to come together again.
This is my main motivation cause no other game out there or in development will make this happen.
Aragon(100) whats your guild ?
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Funny thing is that I wont get a response from the trolls like Radiin (OP) after you put them in their place. (Maybe this post will bring him out though lol). And if by some miracle they do, it will just ignore any valid points and attack something else.
They just go on to another thread to make the same sad message. It will be very nice the day we get to throw it all in their face, but chances are they will be too busy playing the game to check these boards.
If we are wrong? Well we followed a video game that we thought we would enjoy because it dared to be different and it gave us hope for a good MMO.
If they are wrong? Well they made a complete fool of themselves wasting time on a message board debating a game they have no interest in. Making wild claims like they promise it is vaporware because they have so much proof etc etc etc... I
I would be willing to take real $ bets on Darkfall being real, but no one has accepted my offer yet. And they wont because they know deep down that they are just being ridiculous hiding behind the internet.
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Im going to run with the thought that every word he said is the thickest damn sarcasm ive ever heard
Because i just cant think what "phony" developer would waste a full 8 years of there life and make its own fanbase spiral downwords before running off with "less money" than they would have if they released it 3-4 years into production.
ROFL - evidence? What evidence?
Some made up story created of someone with way to much fantasy.
Yeah that "surreeeeee" is some real hardcore evidence if i ever saw one.
ROFL. what evidence is there that this game actually excists....complete...in a beta form
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: Tunnelvision!
They are indeed working on a game. It's called "Free 7-year Vacation in Greece."
ROFL - evidence? What evidence?
Some made up story created of someone with way to much fantasy.
Yeah that "surreeeeee" is some real hardcore evidence if i ever saw one.
ROFL. what evidence is there that this game actually excists....complete...in a beta form
youll see fairly shortly
lol you again hi
Why dont oyu gusy give it a rest for 2 months
i cant. is for the good of mankind
hows is that calling people liars with no bases for it. is bad for mankind
there is alot of basis for it. you seem to chose to ignore it.
How can he be lieing when he never promised us anything... He just said they were planning on such and such... During Development of any game there are always delays.... I seem to remember that WAR was pushed back several months and still it will release without all its "Promised" features....
They are not promises, they are projections, projections change, it part of any Project period, not just in gaming.
Projections not promises, Tasos never lied because he never promised it. Common sense is a great tool, too bad you guys dont have any.
Sooner or Later
lol @ people who still think this game is a fake/hoax
lol @ people who think a game can fail before it is availible for purchase.
wake up people...those of us who are dorking around on there message boards about a game prerelease are the vast minority.
If they game is good and gets good reviews on release...no one is going to care that a few forum goers said the game was fail.
edit: didnt see date but point still stands, and is actually enhanced by how wrong people were when this post was made lol!
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Darkfall is real.
Adventurine is a real company.
Funded by the Illuminati.
Chairman of the board is J. Edgar Hoover, unfrozen from his cryonic sleep just for this position.
Darkfall beta is real and happening right now, currently only open too members of the Illuminati.
Hitler and Elvis are alive testing Darkfall and currently kicking ass as a two man gank squad.
The moon landing never happened.
So, what grade do I get on the exam?
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
lol i approve this message
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The force shall free me.
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nobody was wrong....its halfway thru november and look...no open beta for everyone to SEE there is a game...and its so close to december there is no way for this game to be released before 09 in a stable bug free condition.
Anyone with common sense has figured this out.
Did necro-ing old threads suddenly become popular again?
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In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
Just one objection to your theory.
Do you think inverstors are dumb? Do you think they will happily give milions of dolars without at least making sure there is a game being developed? I mean.. one of them just bringing his son to play would be enough.