Wow i would find this hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. I am constently harping on fan boies for falling back on the "it's only beta" to defend games. Now fortunatly with WAR there havn't been to many that have been clueless enough to be using this obvious strawman, as has been mentioned in large part due that most people that have a problem with the game thus far have stated it's boring not broken. However, if you think this late in an open beta that things such as animations and custimonations are going to be changing anywhere in the near future it is you that doesn't understand what an open beta is or how/why/when developers make changes. I give you that the pathing will probably end up being fixed and the textures tweeked, but the textures are part of the animation style and can only be changed so much. And while the mobs can be made harder, again the reason they are easy is because the game isn't PVE focused and it's a game design to some extent to allow players to quickly get to max level and participate in relm vs relm. So let's stop with this it's "only beta" crap in an open beta thats just before release.
like a virgin, heeeee. what ever noob. obviously you have age of conan syndrome. cry like a baby because funcom let you down. now you dont trust any devs to fix problems by release. like i said:
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
your the pathetic one for trolling these forums. if the game is so damn boring why the hell are you here?
Never played AOC. I could tell it was going to have a lot of problems the way they tries to hide the game in the beta. (nor am I a WOW fan before you resort to that)
Noob, that's rich. I have only been a member of this board for over 4 years now. Your really stretching if that's the best you can come up with. Before I was only calling your position pathetic, but Resorting to callling someone a troll and a noob after they criticise you does pretty much make you pathetic.
I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. I'm just saying your comment about a game being "only in Beta" is misplaced and actually shows your own inability to reasonably criticise a game.
As for why I'm here: because I am a MMO enthusiast and reading up on others opinions/veiws/experiences about games to furthur expand my knowledge about the industry, community, and specific games.
"I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. "
well maybe thats the problem, i have. be gone.
That has nothing to do with my point that defending a game by saying it is in beta, when it's in open beta and about to be released is moronic.
LOL give it up, you're so obviously grasping at straws at this point with your little one line responses to deflect other posters. You made a post trying to criticise others inexperience and it's obvious that you are the one with little experience work with.
And i thought this post was going to be about space marine glory.
lol, they started it, everyone want to always challege someones post when the speak the truth. but some of these guys are veteran WAR players since the played for 3 days. i dont see how im wrong for saying save your judgement till the final build comes out. why to they want to challange me on that i have no idea. now the thread has turned to this, haha.
Wow i would find this hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. I am constently harping on fan boies for falling back on the "it's only beta" to defend games. Now fortunatly with WAR there havn't been to many that have been clueless enough to be using this obvious strawman, as has been mentioned in large part due that most people that have a problem with the game thus far have stated it's boring not broken. However, if you think this late in an open beta that things such as animations and custimonations are going to be changing anywhere in the near future it is you that doesn't understand what an open beta is or how/why/when developers make changes. I give you that the pathing will probably end up being fixed and the textures tweeked, but the textures are part of the animation style and can only be changed so much. And while the mobs can be made harder, again the reason they are easy is because the game isn't PVE focused and it's a game design to some extent to allow players to quickly get to max level and participate in relm vs relm. So let's stop with this it's "only beta" crap in an open beta thats just before release.
like a virgin, heeeee. what ever noob. obviously you have age of conan syndrome. cry like a baby because funcom let you down. now you dont trust any devs to fix problems by release. like i said:
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
your the pathetic one for trolling these forums. if the game is so damn boring why the hell are you here?
Never played AOC. I could tell it was going to have a lot of problems the way they tries to hide the game in the beta. (nor am I a WOW fan before you resort to that)
Noob, that's rich. I have only been a member of this board for over 4 years now. Your really stretching if that's the best you can come up with. Before I was only calling your position pathetic, but Resorting to callling someone a troll and a noob after they criticise you does pretty much make you pathetic.
I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. I'm just saying your comment about a game being "only in Beta" is misplaced and actually shows your own inability to reasonably criticise a game.
As for why I'm here: because I am a MMO enthusiast and reading up on others opinions/veiws/experiences about games to furthur expand my knowledge about the industry, community, and specific games.
"I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. "
well maybe thats the problem, i have. be gone.
That has nothing to do with my point that defending a game by saying it is in beta, when it's in open beta and about to be released is moronic.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Any game is what you make of it. I found WoW to be incredibly boring after about the 100th quest. That is probably around level 13 or 14. That game is a godsend for millions of people so who knows. While I've played over 100 hours of WAR and have never been bored some people may stick to Zerging and get bored. Hopefully there is a game that isn't boring for them. I have been the least bored with the first 100 hours of WAR than I have with any MMO (Except FFXI).
Not every game is for everyone, but if you check the sticky that is the compilation of reviews here you will find that over 96% of the reviews are positive which is something I have never seen from a beta and I have been in a lot of them.
Originally posted by TheHavok Lets be honest: Crafting is....ages behind many games. PvE is....PQs, and raiding has yet to be seen, but we have been told not to expect the level of everquest 2 or WoW's PvE. PvP is....the shining point of the game. They do this well with scenarios, keeps, so on and so forth. To finalize my point, the game is great for people that enjoy pvp, but it is lacking in both pve and crafting which happens to be two things that mmorpg players love to do. Hopefully Mythic has great things in store for both of these things.
Just because Crafting is a standard mechanic in MMORPGs doesn't mean all players love it. Mythic has decided to focus on what they do best rather than spending resources on secondary mechanics. Great crafting didn't make SWG a decent game, Mythic realized they needed to focus on what was important for WAR.
Mythic clearly understood they would lose players who absolutely love crafting and want to open their own shops to sell junk. That was a hard decision they made. Just like they decided they would lose all the low-level gankers by introducing the Chicken Mechanic.
WAR was never meant to be a game for all people. It was meant to be a game for people who love Warhammer and love beating the snot out of their enemies (which is pretty much the same audience). Everyone else will just have to find another game, which is fine. There are other choices out there. But don't expect WAR to be diluted to make it something it's not meant to be.
I have to add that there is more to WAR's PvE than PQs. They have great Christmas Quests that you stumble across while exploring. These really reward anyone who explores a bit. They also have the usual PvE quests and while many are the standard fare, others are the most entertaining PvE quests I have ever done in a MMORPG. The dungeons and instances I have done in beta were entertaining, as good as any I've seen in other games but streamlined so they're not tedious timesinks.
This is not PvE for people who want to do multi-hour dungeons spamming buttons while their raid leader orders them around like monkeys. Again WAR was not trying to appeal to those kind of players. There are other game options out there for them.
WAR does have a large amount of PvE content. The game may emphsize PvP/RvR, but if you're looking for fun PvE that won't force you to treat a game like a second job, then you will find it in WAR.
be gone? you think WAR is perfect and it isn't. I took "click on trees" as an example, read the whole thing. you listed achievements and tome unlocks, achievements are a type of tome unlock, it has the same little popup in the middle of your screen.
WAR IS A GREAT GAME EXCEPT.... yes! we can say that, its not being picky, its being honest. if WAR was a great game except 1 out of every 10,000 people who played it died it's a problem, you don't just ignore it.
you sir are a troll, being the OP of a topic doesn't make you somehow immune. your reaction to every post here has further proven you are a hopeless fanboi.
you think the game has to be perfect, it has to be BETTER than others to enjoy it, and THATS why you come off as an idiot. the rest of us just think we need to enjoy a game for it to be fun, and thus we come across as... not idiots? I don't need to defend WAR against people who say "its a good game but PQ looting needs to be reworked" because thats not something you need to defend the game against.
when people come here saying WAR causes poverty and AIDS then you can go rabid fanboi on them and defend the game. until then you need to calm down and stop trolling, you actually make the game look bad.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
please people, take into consideration that this is beta! i can tell a lot of you have never expericed beta testing, particualarly mmo beta testing. the reason why is I see so many post bashing things like, textures, animations, pathing, speed, character customization, difficulty of mobs and so on, as if it's the final build. all these lame "preview weekend reviews" talking about how awful this is and that is. a lot of these issues will be fixed at launch, so save yourself the embarassment and not post these things until the final build is out. btw way for those who don't know the topic is a spoof from a famous Madonna song, thats what you naysayers remind me of, lol.
You know what?
I hear this every time a major mmo releases.TBH though if you go back 6 or 7 years ago if you got into a beta you were considered lucky to get in.
If a game company was serious though about testing they would pay players to test the game.Treat them like employees that can get fired and you would get results.
Say what you will but the release is how far out?Less than a month?
What they do at launch doesnt matter.People are playing the game NOW.What the game looks like and plays like matters NOW.
Go look at the forums across the internet and you will see people posting about how they decided NOT to play NOW.
its funny that so many people bash about the graphics when most of the screenshots are taken on the lowest graphic settings and i know from experience the highest graphic settings are pretty damn good
you left out about 3/4 of the other things i said, not just "clicking on trees". also what game is better and offers more things to do? you failed to answer that to?
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If you want to put it in terms of what game is more played and enjoyed the world around, I would say right now Texas Hold'em Poker has a clear advantage over any MMORPG currently on the market. If you want to speculate about which MMORPG game will dominate the market share of paying players in December 2008, then very well most likely it will continue to be WoW.
Does that make either one of those games better than WAR? No.
The reason - what is "better" is a subjective judgement an individual places on their choice of entertainment (in this use of the term), A large number of people are going to think that web based "Fantasy Baseball" is a better game, because that is what they know and enjoy. I think for my play tastes I will enjoy playing WAR, but that does not make it a "Better" game for every type of game player in existence. It's only a "Better" game for the people who prefer MMORPGs with the PvP/RvR focused style of play. Frankly speaking more people probably find Tetris the height of video game play compared to the number of people playing WoW. You have to understand you are in a narrow market space with MMORPGs. Ten+ Million WoW customers might seem huge, but compared to the 6 billion people on planet earth, they are one sixth of one percent of the population. I have to tell you that China probably considers "Ping pong" a better game.
also what game is better and offers more things to do? you failed to answer that to?
EVE. play it, far more deep and complex than WAR. despite being aimed at an incredibly small market (heavy death penalty, space setting, non-level based) it has become the second largest pay to play MMO in the western world, and I believe its only in 3 place if you add in Asia (behind Lineage2?).
go ahead, bash EVE. you've never played it and I doubt you'd get all the way through the tutorial, but is a far better made MMO than any other I've seen. I'll stick by that statement despite the fact that I don't play it anymore, and will be playing WAR, and have been playing WAR.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Your such a lier. It's not like they just built the game in the last 3 weeks. There are always going to be new patches (even after release) that doesn't mean a game isn't judged based upon its over all design. The animation, custimaztion wasn't just placed 3 weeks ago. Seriously lieing and trying to reinterpret your OP is a seriously mental.
its funny that so many people bash about the graphics when most of the screenshots are taken on the lowest graphic settings and i know from experience the highest graphic settings are pretty damn good
Most people when they complain about graphics actually are talking about the art style/quality. I assume that is what most people are talking about when they have been complaining about WAR's "graphic". They don't like the art and/or animation style.
Good post, and Mark Jacobs himself addressed just about every issue people have in beta, character custimization, pathing, skill use timers, the ability not ready message, and the textures of the graphics are all stated to be fixed by launch.
Any game is what you make of it. I found WoW to be incredibly boring after about the 100th quest. That is probably around level 13 or 14. That game is a godsend for millions of people so who knows. While I've played over 100 hours of WAR and have never been bored some people may stick to Zerging and get bored. Hopefully there is a game that isn't boring for them. I have been the least bored with the first 100 hours of WAR than I have with any MMO (Except FFXI). Not every game is for everyone, but if you check the sticky that is the compilation of reviews here you will find that over 96% of the reviews are positive which is something I have never seen from a beta and I have been in a lot of them.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Your such a lier. It's not like they just built the game in the last 3 weeks. There are always going to be new patches (even after release) that doesn't mean a game isn't judged based upon its over all design. The animation, custimaztion wasn't just placed 3 weeks ago. Seriously lieing and trying to reinterpret your OP is a seriously mental.
thats what the elder testers said over at waralliance, so call them the liars. otherwise provide a link saying otherwise. you cant beat me homes.
be gone? you think WAR is perfect and it isn't. I took "click on trees" as an example, read the whole thing. you listed achievements and tome unlocks, achievements are a type of tome unlock, it has the same little popup in the middle of your screen.
WAR IS A GREAT GAME EXCEPT.... yes! we can say that, its not being picky, its being honest. if WAR was a great game except 1 out of every 10,000 people who played it died it's a problem, you don't just ignore it.
you sir are a troll, being the OP of a topic doesn't make you somehow immune. your reaction to every post here has further proven you are a hopeless fanboi.
you think the game has to be perfect, it has to be BETTER than others to enjoy it, and THATS why you come off as an idiot. the rest of us just think we need to enjoy a game for it to be fun, and thus we come across as... not idiots? I don't need to defend WAR against people who say "its a good game but PQ looting needs to be reworked" because thats not something you need to defend the game against.
when people come here saying WAR causes poverty and AIDS then you can go rabid fanboi on them and defend the game. until then you need to calm down and stop trolling, you actually make the game look bad.
please people, take into consideration that this is beta! i can tell a lot of you have never expericed beta testing, particualarly mmo beta testing. the reason why is I see so many post bashing things like, textures, animations, pathing, speed, character customization, difficulty of mobs and so on, as if it's the final build. all these lame "preview weekend reviews" talking about how awful this is and that is. a lot of these issues will be fixed at launch, so save yourself the embarassment and not post these things until the final build is out. btw way for those who don't know the topic is a spoof from a famous Madonna song, thats what you naysayers remind me of, lol.
You know what?
I hear this every time a major mmo releases.TBH though if you go back 6 or 7 years ago if you got into a beta you were considered lucky to get in.
If a game company was serious though about testing they would pay players to test the game.Treat them like employees that can get fired and you would get results.
Say what you will but the release is how far out?Less than a month?
What they do at launch doesnt matter.People are playing the game NOW.What the game looks like and plays like matters NOW.
Go look at the forums across the internet and you will see people posting about how they decided NOT to play NOW.
also what game is better and offers more things to do? you failed to answer that to?
EVE. play it, far more deep and complex than WAR. despite being aimed at an incredibly small market (heavy death penalty, space setting, non-level based) it has become the second largest pay to play MMO in the western world, and I believe its only in 3 place if you add in Asia (behind Lineage2?).
go ahead, bash EVE. you've never played it and I doubt you'd get all the way through the tutorial, but is a far better made MMO than any other I've seen. I'll stick by that statement despite the fact that I don't play it anymore, and will be playing WAR, and have been playing WAR.
no i didnt get throught the tutorial, i found it very boring, but this isnt an eve forum, nor will you catch me in the eve forum complaining about how it didnt have this and didnt have that, nit picking every little thing. plus eve isnt in beta.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Your such a lier. It's not like they just built the game in the last 3 weeks. There are always going to be new patches (even after release) that doesn't mean a game isn't judged based upon its over all design. The animation, custimaztion wasn't just placed 3 weeks ago. Seriously lieing and trying to reinterpret your OP is a seriously mental.
thats what the elder testers said over at waralliance, so call them the liars. otherwise provide a link saying otherwise. you cant beat me homes.
I don't know who you think you are "beating" but if you think you accomplished anything, but destroy any credabilty you have and look uninformed and argumentative you're mistaken. Posting nonsense as a response to peoples arguments doesn't do anything to "win" a conversation. It just shows your immaturity and inability to defend your position and carryon an adult conversation.
EVE. play it, far more deep and complex than WAR. despite being aimed at an incredibly small market (heavy death penalty, space setting, non-level based) it has become the second largest pay to play MMO in the western world, and I believe its only in 3 place if you add in Asia (behind Lineage2?).
Fifth place actually. Behind WOW, Lineage 2, Lineage and Final Fantasy. If you choose to believe MMOGCHART.
But the original EQ isn't that far behind EVE and that's a nearly ten year old game. Which speaks more about the sorry state of MMORPG development IMO. The market is open, developers just have to start making games that people actually WANT to play.
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like a virgin, heeeee. what ever noob. obviously you have age of conan syndrome. cry like a baby because funcom let you down. now you dont trust any devs to fix problems by release. like i said:
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
your the pathetic one for trolling these forums. if the game is so damn boring why the hell are you here?
Never played AOC. I could tell it was going to have a lot of problems the way they tries to hide the game in the beta. (nor am I a WOW fan before you resort to that)
Noob, that's rich. I have only been a member of this board for over 4 years now. Your really stretching if that's the best you can come up with. Before I was only calling your position pathetic, but Resorting to callling someone a troll and a noob after they criticise you does pretty much make you pathetic.
I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. I'm just saying your comment about a game being "only in Beta" is misplaced and actually shows your own inability to reasonably criticise a game.
As for why I'm here: because I am a MMO enthusiast and reading up on others opinions/veiws/experiences about games to furthur expand my knowledge about the industry, community, and specific games.
"I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. "
well maybe thats the problem, i have. be gone.
That has nothing to do with my point that defending a game by saying it is in beta, when it's in open beta and about to be released is moronic.
LOL give it up, you're so obviously grasping at straws at this point with your little one line responses to deflect other posters. You made a post trying to criticise others inexperience and it's obvious that you are the one with little experience work with.
lol, they started it, everyone want to always challege someones post when the speak the truth. but some of these guys are veteran WAR players since the played for 3 days. i dont see how im wrong for saying save your judgement till the final build comes out. why to they want to challange me on that i have no idea. now the thread has turned to this, haha.
like a virgin, heeeee. what ever noob. obviously you have age of conan syndrome. cry like a baby because funcom let you down. now you dont trust any devs to fix problems by release. like i said:
name one mmo currently on the market that is more fun than WAR in your first 8 hours of play? none of them. there is so much crap to do in WAR. all the other mmos out there are kill this, kill that, kill there leader, deliver his head to this NPC for thte first 8 hours, i mean come one. WAR, public quest, RVR zones, achevements, scenarios, xp for exploring like clickin on trees and stuff, hidden places, dyeing armor, digging through the tome. i mean damn all in 8 hours, did you even play the beta? if so you missed alot of stuff.
your the pathetic one for trolling these forums. if the game is so damn boring why the hell are you here?
Never played AOC. I could tell it was going to have a lot of problems the way they tries to hide the game in the beta. (nor am I a WOW fan before you resort to that)
Noob, that's rich. I have only been a member of this board for over 4 years now. Your really stretching if that's the best you can come up with. Before I was only calling your position pathetic, but Resorting to callling someone a troll and a noob after they criticise you does pretty much make you pathetic.
I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. I'm just saying your comment about a game being "only in Beta" is misplaced and actually shows your own inability to reasonably criticise a game.
As for why I'm here: because I am a MMO enthusiast and reading up on others opinions/veiws/experiences about games to furthur expand my knowledge about the industry, community, and specific games.
"I haven't played WAR either. I never said it was boring. I said that was what others have said. "
well maybe thats the problem, i have. be gone.
That has nothing to do with my point that defending a game by saying it is in beta, when it's in open beta and about to be released is moronic.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Any game is what you make of it. I found WoW to be incredibly boring after about the 100th quest. That is probably around level 13 or 14. That game is a godsend for millions of people so who knows. While I've played over 100 hours of WAR and have never been bored some people may stick to Zerging and get bored. Hopefully there is a game that isn't boring for them. I have been the least bored with the first 100 hours of WAR than I have with any MMO (Except FFXI).
Not every game is for everyone, but if you check the sticky that is the compilation of reviews here you will find that over 96% of the reviews are positive which is something I have never seen from a beta and I have been in a lot of them.
Just because Crafting is a standard mechanic in MMORPGs doesn't mean all players love it. Mythic has decided to focus on what they do best rather than spending resources on secondary mechanics. Great crafting didn't make SWG a decent game, Mythic realized they needed to focus on what was important for WAR.
Mythic clearly understood they would lose players who absolutely love crafting and want to open their own shops to sell junk. That was a hard decision they made. Just like they decided they would lose all the low-level gankers by introducing the Chicken Mechanic.
WAR was never meant to be a game for all people. It was meant to be a game for people who love Warhammer and love beating the snot out of their enemies (which is pretty much the same audience). Everyone else will just have to find another game, which is fine. There are other choices out there. But don't expect WAR to be diluted to make it something it's not meant to be.
I have to add that there is more to WAR's PvE than PQs. They have great Christmas Quests that you stumble across while exploring. These really reward anyone who explores a bit. They also have the usual PvE quests and while many are the standard fare, others are the most entertaining PvE quests I have ever done in a MMORPG. The dungeons and instances I have done in beta were entertaining, as good as any I've seen in other games but streamlined so they're not tedious timesinks.
This is not PvE for people who want to do multi-hour dungeons spamming buttons while their raid leader orders them around like monkeys. Again WAR was not trying to appeal to those kind of players. There are other game options out there for them.
WAR does have a large amount of PvE content. The game may emphsize PvP/RvR, but if you're looking for fun PvE that won't force you to treat a game like a second job, then you will find it in WAR.
be gone? you think WAR is perfect and it isn't. I took "click on trees" as an example, read the whole thing. you listed achievements and tome unlocks, achievements are a type of tome unlock, it has the same little popup in the middle of your screen.
WAR IS A GREAT GAME EXCEPT.... yes! we can say that, its not being picky, its being honest. if WAR was a great game except 1 out of every 10,000 people who played it died it's a problem, you don't just ignore it.
you sir are a troll, being the OP of a topic doesn't make you somehow immune. your reaction to every post here has further proven you are a hopeless fanboi.
you think the game has to be perfect, it has to be BETTER than others to enjoy it, and THATS why you come off as an idiot. the rest of us just think we need to enjoy a game for it to be fun, and thus we come across as... not idiots? I don't need to defend WAR against people who say "its a good game but PQ looting needs to be reworked" because thats not something you need to defend the game against.
when people come here saying WAR causes poverty and AIDS then you can go rabid fanboi on them and defend the game. until then you need to calm down and stop trolling, you actually make the game look bad.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
You know what?
I hear this every time a major mmo releases.TBH though if you go back 6 or 7 years ago if you got into a beta you were considered lucky to get in.
If a game company was serious though about testing they would pay players to test the game.Treat them like employees that can get fired and you would get results.
Say what you will but the release is how far out?Less than a month?
What they do at launch doesnt matter.People are playing the game NOW.What the game looks like and plays like matters NOW.
Go look at the forums across the internet and you will see people posting about how they decided NOT to play NOW.
What is your physical limit?
its funny that so many people bash about the graphics when most of the screenshots are taken on the lowest graphic settings and i know from experience the highest graphic settings are pretty damn good
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you left out about 3/4 of the other things i said, not just "clicking on trees". also what game is better and offers more things to do? you failed to answer that to?
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If you want to put it in terms of what game is more played and enjoyed the world around, I would say right now Texas Hold'em Poker has a clear advantage over any MMORPG currently on the market. If you want to speculate about which MMORPG game will dominate the market share of paying players in December 2008, then very well most likely it will continue to be WoW.
Does that make either one of those games better than WAR? No.
The reason - what is "better" is a subjective judgement an individual places on their choice of entertainment (in this use of the term), A large number of people are going to think that web based "Fantasy Baseball" is a better game, because that is what they know and enjoy. I think for my play tastes I will enjoy playing WAR, but that does not make it a "Better" game for every type of game player in existence. It's only a "Better" game for the people who prefer MMORPGs with the PvP/RvR focused style of play. Frankly speaking more people probably find Tetris the height of video game play compared to the number of people playing WoW. You have to understand you are in a narrow market space with MMORPGs. Ten+ Million WoW customers might seem huge, but compared to the 6 billion people on planet earth, they are one sixth of one percent of the population. I have to tell you that China probably considers "Ping pong" a better game.
I hope this helps.
EVE. play it, far more deep and complex than WAR. despite being aimed at an incredibly small market (heavy death penalty, space setting, non-level based) it has become the second largest pay to play MMO in the western world, and I believe its only in 3 place if you add in Asia (behind Lineage2?).
go ahead, bash EVE. you've never played it and I doubt you'd get all the way through the tutorial, but is a far better made MMO than any other I've seen. I'll stick by that statement despite the fact that I don't play it anymore, and will be playing WAR, and have been playing WAR.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Your such a lier. It's not like they just built the game in the last 3 weeks. There are always going to be new patches (even after release) that doesn't mean a game isn't judged based upon its over all design. The animation, custimaztion wasn't just placed 3 weeks ago. Seriously lieing and trying to reinterpret your OP is a seriously mental.
Most people when they complain about graphics actually are talking about the art style/quality. I assume that is what most people are talking about when they have been complaining about WAR's "graphic". They don't like the art and/or animation style.
Good post, and Mark Jacobs himself addressed just about every issue people have in beta, character custimization, pathing, skill use timers, the ability not ready message, and the textures of the graphics are all stated to be fixed by launch.
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thanks profred, i will check it out.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Your such a lier. It's not like they just built the game in the last 3 weeks. There are always going to be new patches (even after release) that doesn't mean a game isn't judged based upon its over all design. The animation, custimaztion wasn't just placed 3 weeks ago. Seriously lieing and trying to reinterpret your OP is a seriously mental.
thats what the elder testers said over at waralliance, so call them the liars. otherwise provide a link saying otherwise. you cant beat me homes.
anything else?? yawn, why so angry, you mad?
You know what?
I hear this every time a major mmo releases.TBH though if you go back 6 or 7 years ago if you got into a beta you were considered lucky to get in.
If a game company was serious though about testing they would pay players to test the game.Treat them like employees that can get fired and you would get results.
Say what you will but the release is how far out?Less than a month?
What they do at launch doesnt matter.People are playing the game NOW.What the game looks like and plays like matters NOW.
Go look at the forums across the internet and you will see people posting about how they decided NOT to play NOW.
another case of "age of conan syndrome"
EVE. play it, far more deep and complex than WAR. despite being aimed at an incredibly small market (heavy death penalty, space setting, non-level based) it has become the second largest pay to play MMO in the western world, and I believe its only in 3 place if you add in Asia (behind Lineage2?).
go ahead, bash EVE. you've never played it and I doubt you'd get all the way through the tutorial, but is a far better made MMO than any other I've seen. I'll stick by that statement despite the fact that I don't play it anymore, and will be playing WAR, and have been playing WAR.
no i didnt get throught the tutorial, i found it very boring, but this isnt an eve forum, nor will you catch me in the eve forum complaining about how it didnt have this and didnt have that, nit picking every little thing. plus eve isnt in beta.
what do you think this original thread is about? we were playing a build that was 3 weeks old, do you know how much coding and changes can be done in such a small time? so bye now.
Your such a lier. It's not like they just built the game in the last 3 weeks. There are always going to be new patches (even after release) that doesn't mean a game isn't judged based upon its over all design. The animation, custimaztion wasn't just placed 3 weeks ago. Seriously lieing and trying to reinterpret your OP is a seriously mental.
thats what the elder testers said over at waralliance, so call them the liars. otherwise provide a link saying otherwise. you cant beat me homes.
I don't know who you think you are "beating" but if you think you accomplished anything, but destroy any credabilty you have and look uninformed and argumentative you're mistaken. Posting nonsense as a response to peoples arguments doesn't do anything to "win" a conversation. It just shows your immaturity and inability to defend your position and carryon an adult conversation.
Fifth place actually. Behind WOW, Lineage 2, Lineage and Final Fantasy. If you choose to believe MMOGCHART.
www.mmogchart.com/Chart7.html
But the original EQ isn't that far behind EVE and that's a nearly ten year old game. Which speaks more about the sorry state of MMORPG development IMO. The market is open, developers just have to start making games that people actually WANT to play.