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So when's the beta?
Soldier420
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HUH?! Going on 8 or 9yrs and still nothing.
Pats let Manning win.
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5 years
We don't know. There may not even be a beta as such. Just a free trial period.
Only goal published is release 2008.
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2008 release...4 months left. I don't see any advertising, any previews, any reviews, not even a promo video (yet). Little chance of a 2008 release, not if they are going to actually do some proper promotion and advertising. If they miss this deadline, it surely HAS to be the end? Can anyone still believe in this if they miss yet another deadline with nothing to show for it?
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As long as they keep promising more deadlines people will follow... I mean this game is an MMO dream, too bad it's probably not real. I stoped following this waay back, but i keep hoping it's not vaporware...we'll see.
i cant get past how people bash this game for not following normal mmo hype-production-prerelease tactics.
are people that oblivious to the world of business to know companies do things differently? it is a small indy developer.
and why is the other way the better way? aoc hyped and hyped and gave us videos and promises etc etc...and did that turn out well? no you were lied to and got a terrible game? and vanguard etc plenty of games have done this and failed...why do you think this is the best way to release a game?
i made this point in another thread....everybody who say 9-10 years is first of all just wrong. wether you judge the 2003 transition as a new start or not...the fact remains that they delayed the game because it wasnt ready.
WE SHOULD BE BEGGING COMPANIES TO DO THIS. you hypocrits bash this game for taking forever, and then bash released games for releasin too soon....lol its insanity.
I still think the mmo industry should just make the games with absolutly minimal interaction with the community until about 6 months prior to release. then hype up their product when its all done and good to go. yes obviously they need to promote the game throughout development to find publishers etc, and info will come out...but the idea that we DESERVE all this info from the development process is absurd
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2008 release...4 months left. I don't see any advertising, any previews, any reviews, not even a promo video (yet). Little chance of a 2008 release, not if they are going to actually do some proper promotion and advertising. If they miss this deadline, it surely HAS to be the end? Can anyone still believe in this if they miss yet another deadline with nothing to show for it?
Just wait til August is at its end and then start bitching.
The Darkfall devs are in a running competition with the Duke Nukem Forever devs to see who can get people to believe that there may be a game occuring for longer.
They're actually both in a shed in the woods behind their parent's house smoking pot.
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5 year of developing the Darkfall game we see today.
Its really not that long if you consider the magnitude of a MMORPG like Darkfall.
Beta is just arround the corner since game will be released 2008.
This arrived to the main Darkfall website yesterday. Its a hint that its going beta real soon.
http://www.darkfallonline.com/beta/
great post and 100% on the money.
Originally posted by Chillingham
Originally posted by javac
great post and 100% on the money.
because another delusional fanboy posted it so it must be 100% on the money?
because another delusional fanboy posted it so it must be 100% on the money?
It was a very good post from a well informed and intelligent follower of the game Darkfall.
As he said - 100% on the money.
And you are nothing but another delusional hater, whats your point?
What he said was 100% on the money, regardless if he is talking about Darkfall or not. Gamers bitch if the game releases unfinish and they bitch if a game takes forever to make. Make up your dam mind.
Another thing, why are we delusional? We are waiting on Darkfall, if it comes out great, if it does not come out what did we lose? None of you haters can answer that question.
What do I lose by waiting on Darkfall?
Sooner or Later
Wow you're so far gone it's hilarious.
You think people bash this game because it doesnt follow the normal mmo hype-production-prerelease tactics?
People bash this game ebcause of Tasos' big mouth. They bash it because their sick and tired of hearing about how great it will be for the the last 7 years without a single ounce fo proof other than words.
That gets annoying after swhile.
Wake up. Reality is calling you.
I have a good idea. Why doesn't Tasos just shut the fuck up , close down the site , develop their game and than relaunch everything when Beta is ready to plat the enxt day????
Reality is calling... We lose nothing by waiting on Darkfall.. Who cares how long it takes, it cost me NOTHING to wait for it. Prove to me or anyone else Darkfall is fake and Tasos is lieing... You cannot because you have no idea what the Darkfall team is really doing... Niether do we.
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Sooner or Later
Thanks for outlining the problem... for the last 7 years
No I'am called a realist with common sense.
You people are so far fucken gone you should be locked up in a psyche ward for still following this played out joke that has shown a few terrible looking Alpha videos over the last 7 years as proof of development. lol
Originally posted by TdogSkal
What do I lose by waiting on Darkfall?
Brain cells
Again what does it matter if I choose to wait for Darkfall?
It cost me nothing to wait for the game... I am playing other games and working as an intern for another MMO in development. So waiting is not a problem for me.
If Darkfall comes out, Great I will be able to play a game that fits into my idea of a good MMO. If it does not come out, Oh well, I lost nothing.
You are not a realist with common sense. Common sense means that if it cost me nothing to wait for Darkfall then it really does not matter if I wait 5, 10, 15 years, it still cost me nothing.
Sooner or Later
Thanks for outlining the problem... for the last 7 years
Yea and I dont see it as a problem, I tend to believe a developer over someone that has no idea whats really going on. If Tasos is lieing, so what, I lost nothing waiting on Darkfall.
Sooner or Later
Thanks for outlining the problem... for the last 7 years
Yea and I dont see it as a problem, I tend to believe a developer over someone that has no idea whats really going on. If Tasos is lieing, so what, I lost nothing waiting on Darkfall.
You may have lost nothing waiting on Darkfall Online. Believe it or not, there are 100s, if not thousands, of guilds out there that have put together a lot of work getting a guild ready for DFO. One of the reasons people put in the work they do is because of the words from the developers. When developers lie and ship crap, it makes it just that much harder for the good development companies to get future projects. Companies launching projects that were in the state there were in like Vanguard, AoC, and to a lesser extent PoTBS need to realize the damage they are doing to the MMORPG community as a whole.
If I sold you a hybrid for $25,000 and delivered a 2000 3 cylindar that gets 50 mpg, you'd report me to the better business bureau for bait and switch. Some of these MMORPG companies do the same type of b.s. and a lot of people accept it as the normally way of doing business. Blizzard and now Turbine with LOTRO have proven you can deliver a quality project. There is no excuse for the AoCs and Vanguards of the community any longer
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
It's not the waiting that's objectionable. We're all waiting for Darkfall one way or the other, even if it's for different reasons, but unless we're monetarily or emotionally (as some seem) invested in the project, it doesn't really affect us. It's the blind conviction/faith/belief. It's the acting like the unofficial Aventurine Defense Force anytime someone dares to post some criticism on their practices, decisions and actions and summarily dismissing them as if they were not valid, to not mention often including personal attacks or labels in the replies. Again, the burden of proof does not lie with the skeptics, but with the ones claming the improbable.
I couldn't agree more.
However I think you have the groups mixed up. The group claiming the improbable is the naysayers.
It is definitely more improbable that a group or people (or even just one person posing as many people) operates a forum where they promote a fictional game or a game that is never going to release. And they make announcements and updates knowing that it will never happen. That is what is improbable and that is why the burden of proof lies on you. And you can't prove a negative so we all just need to wait.
It is much more likely they are just a new indy developer that just doesn't have the time or the knowledge to deal with the MMO community in a marketing standpoint. this has nothing to do with thier skills of building a game.
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2008 release...4 months left. I don't see any advertising, any previews, any reviews, not even a promo video (yet). Little chance of a 2008 release, not if they are going to actually do some proper promotion and advertising. If they miss this deadline, it surely HAS to be the end? Can anyone still believe in this if they miss yet another deadline with nothing to show for it?
You know....Aventurine can release their game anyway they want to. Advertisin, prewievs, reviews and promo videos may come or not. Remember that they have no PR department. Aventurine is a small Indie developer, and they focus everything on the game itself.
Ofcourse it may be a scam, but without PR its hard to sell a scam.
I personally think the community will take care of the first advertising (as CCP did with EVE), first a few thousands and all thier friends and so on. The we will see some real PR inmainstream media.
No I'am called a realist with common sense.
You people are so far fucken gone you should be locked up in a psyche ward for still following this played out joke that has shown a few terrible looking Alpha videos over the last 7 years as proof of development. lol
Originally posted by TdogSkal
What do I lose by waiting on Darkfall?
Brain cells
No youre a delusional hater.
On what is you basing your statements?
Yeah thats right, how stupid of me, the Darkfall haters and no-sayers here on this Darkfall board is as usual basing there statements on there gut feeling.
There is never any substance in what you haters and no-sayers is claiming. There is just alot of statements taken out of thin air.
How do you ever think anyone will take you the slightest seriously when all you claim is based on your gut feeling?
I couldn't agree more.
However I think you have the groups mixed up. The group claiming the improbable is the naysayers.
It is definitely more improbably that a group or people (or even just one person posing as many people) operates a forum where they promote a fictional game or a game that is never going to release. And they make announcements and updates knowing that it will never happen. That is what is improbable and that is why the burden of proof lies on you. And you can't prove a negative so we all just need to wait.
It is much more likely they are just a new indy developer that just doesn't have the time or the knowledge to deal with the MMO community in a marketing standpoint. this has nothing to do with thier skills of building a game.
I would say the most probable scenario is that it is a small indie company, promising too much realizing they can't do it, and now stalling for time while they try to get as much working as they can without losing the support, so claiming everything is still all right. You're right, saying that DF does not exist at all is not the most probable scenario, at least in my opinion.
But the less likely one is that DF will release with everything they promised, working as they promised and in the way they promised.
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I couldn't agree more.
However I think you have the groups mixed up. The group claiming the improbable is the naysayers.
It is definitely more improbably that a group or people (or even just one person posing as many people) operates a forum where they promote a fictional game or a game that is never going to release. And they make announcements and updates knowing that it will never happen. That is what is improbable and that is why the burden of proof lies on you. And you can't prove a negative so we all just need to wait.
It is much more likely they are just a new indy developer that just doesn't have the time or the knowledge to deal with the MMO community in a marketing standpoint. this has nothing to do with thier skills of building a game.
I would say the most probable scenario is that it is a small indie company, promising too much realizing they can't do it, and now stalling for time while they try to get as much working as they can without losing the support, so claiming everything is still all right. You're right, saying that DF does not exist at all is not the most probable scenario, at least in my opinion.
But the less likely one is that DF will release with everything they promised, working as they promised and in the way they promised.
I can find a middle ground with you on this one for sure.
It is definitely a strong possibility, given the lack of communication, that the game is in a lackluster state. I have always tried to leave that open as an option when i post, that the amazingness of DF is just on paper.
Again we just have to wait and see what they bring to the table in this video and eventual open beta. Until then we can't prove anything, and so the arguing continues.
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Aventurine was officially founded in October 2002
6 years only
beta = november