This is excellent news. This means we can reasonably expect some sort of beta in October, and that release within this year is not completely out of the question. Now all that remains to be seen is what state the game is in, which we will soon enough, as well as the video. This also means I'm backing out of a certain bet I was about to make .
Either way we have a deadline imposed on Aventurine now, so it means chances are good of getting a lot more info on the state of the game in the next few months than we have ever before, namely coming from a pilot build. I understand the philosophy behind letting the product speak for itself, but I don't agree with it, they should market it, even EVE has gone this far through aggressive marketing.
Release Oct 2008? This keeps getting better and better. There is no way this game is releasing in 2 months. Perhaps a Beta.. but release? Hell no
It's indeed a beta. Thanks for proving the point.
They state, that it will be a "pilot test" or something like that. It basically means a promotional stress test/open beta. As you might know, they have done the actual beta testing with a limited number of professional testers, for obvious reasons.
Very interesting. Audiovisual is paying royalities to Aventurine. This means that Audiovisual will be the one collecting our monthly subscription fees instead of Aventurine? Aventurine is leasing the game to Audiovisual to market as it sees fit. I would love to see the fine print of this arrangement. It will be interesting to see who Audiovisual signs to host and run servers for this game.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Very interesting. Audiovisual is paying royalities to Aventurine. This means that Audiovisual will be the one collecting our monthly subscription fees instead of Aventurine? Aventurine is leasing the game to Audiovisual to market as it sees fit. I would love to see the fine print of this arrangement. It will be interesting to see who Audiovisual signs to host and run servers for this game.
well aventurine is probly working with them on that front.
What I really want to know is if Audiovisual will go through with the free Playtesting that was promised to the fanbase. They have no prior experience in MMO marketing from what I can see. Will they be able to handle that?
Anyway, that's really the biggest concern I have since apparently Aventurine lets Audiovisual handle everything regarding distribution.
So you think graphics that belong on a game 4+ years ago is superior to this??
oh yeah. Top quality gfx! I love the jagged polygons of the monster's head! You people will bash darkfall until it is winning awards. And even after that, I'm sure. THAT'S OK. We don't want your business around our game anyway!
Release Oct 2008? This keeps getting better and better. There is no way this game is releasing in 2 months. Perhaps a Beta.. but release? Hell no
It's indeed a beta. Thanks for proving the point.
They state, that it will be a "pilot test" or something like that. It basically means a promotional stress test/open beta. As you might know, they have done the actual beta testing with a limited number of professional testers, for obvious reasons.
Love your Avatar.
Its like he is saying to the no-sayers and trolls-
What I really want to know is if Audiovisual will go through with the free Playtesting that was promised to the fanbase. They have no prior experience in MMO marketing from what I can see. Will they be able to handle that?
Anyway, that's really the biggest concern I have since apparently Aventurine lets Audiovisual handle everything regarding distribution.
from what im understanding that is what pilot test is
What I really want to know is if Audiovisual will go through with the free Playtesting that was promised to the fanbase. They have no prior experience in MMO marketing from what I can see.
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
What I really want to know is if Audiovisual will go through with the free Playtesting that was promised to the fanbase. They have no prior experience in MMO marketing from what I can see.
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
What I really want to know is if Audiovisual will go through with the free Playtesting that was promised to the fanbase. They have no prior experience in MMO marketing from what I can see.
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
What I really want to know is if Audiovisual will go through with the free Playtesting that was promised to the fanbase. They have no prior experience in MMO marketing from what I can see.
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
crappy labtops i seen pcs being used
crappy PC's than?
umm no there probly not super new but there good enough. they probly have some really high end ones for testing too
Ya for sure the fun has only begun. Just wait until actual people get to pop in this game... that's when the reality will sink in... just like it did to the thousands of Dark and Light "believers".
It aint gonna be what they've been playing in their heads that's for sure.
Ya for sure the fun has only begun. Just wait until actual people get to pop in this game... that's when the reality will sink in... just like it did to the thousands of Dark and Light "believers". It aint gonna be what they've been playing in their heads that's for sure.
Isnt it nice.=)
Now we have gone from a vaporware game to a existing game in like what....10 minutes.
The next challenge for you nay-sayers and trolls will be to learn to like the game. Lets hope for a good beta and a good release, shall we.
"Aventurine and Audiovisual signed a final agreement on the exclusive cooperation of the two companies for the publishing, distribution and utilization in any and all forms, in Greece and in 50 other countries, of the MMORPG named Darkfall. Audiovisual will pay royalties to Aventurine based on the predicted sales." Also on the second paragraph it mentions that the game will be launched in the world market as a pilot program in October 2008... Beta?!
Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Hence the "pilot program".
Know what happens to Pilot TV shows when no one watches??
Ya for sure the fun has only begun. Just wait until actual people get to pop in this game... that's when the reality will sink in... just like it did to the thousands of Dark and Light "believers". It aint gonna be what they've been playing in their heads that's for sure.
Isnt it nice.=)
Now we have gone from a vaporware game to a existing game in like what....10 minutes.
The next challenge for you nay-sayers and trolls will be to learn to like the game. Lets hope for a good beta and a good release, shall we.
Because clearly MMOs developed by developers with tons more money and experiences who promised the world haven't failed. Nope. Not at all. Never.
I kind of envy people with such strong dreams. Then again...
Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
It aint gonna be what they've been playing in their heads that's for sure.
i think you'e right. a lot of people i think have the idea of Darkfall as some kind of super-WOW, but the actuality will be very different. it *will* be violent, brutal and unforgiving at times, and i think a lot of people won't be able to hack it.
It aint gonna be what they've been playing in their heads that's for sure.
i think you'e right. a lot of people i think have the idea of Darkfall as some kind of super-WOW, but the actuality will be very different. it *will* be violent, brutal and unforgiving at times, and i think a lot of people won't be able to hack it.
Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss eh vapourtrolls? nice try though! Any other vapourtrolls game to step up or are you all reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
"Aventurine and Audiovisual signed a final agreement on the exclusive cooperation of the two companies for the publishing, distribution and utilization in any and all forms, in Greece and in 50 other countries, of the MMORPG named Darkfall. Audiovisual will pay royalties to Aventurine based on the predicted sales." Also on the second paragraph it mentions that the game will be launched in the world market as a pilot program in October 2008... Beta?!
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<@Brannoc>; pilot tests typically refer to a PR beta
<@Brannoc>; much like a pilot television program
This is excellent news. This means we can reasonably expect some sort of beta in October, and that release within this year is not completely out of the question. Now all that remains to be seen is what state the game is in, which we will soon enough, as well as the video. This also means I'm backing out of a certain bet I was about to make
.
Either way we have a deadline imposed on Aventurine now, so it means chances are good of getting a lot more info on the state of the game in the next few months than we have ever before, namely coming from a pilot build. I understand the philosophy behind letting the product speak for itself, but I don't agree with it, they should market it, even EVE has gone this far through aggressive marketing.
It's indeed a beta. Thanks for proving the point.
They state, that it will be a "pilot test" or something like that. It basically means a promotional stress test/open beta. As you might know, they have done the actual beta testing with a limited number of professional testers, for obvious reasons.
Very interesting. Audiovisual is paying royalities to Aventurine. This means that Audiovisual will be the one collecting our monthly subscription fees instead of Aventurine? Aventurine is leasing the game to Audiovisual to market as it sees fit. I would love to see the fine print of this arrangement. It will be interesting to see who Audiovisual signs to host and run servers for this game.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
well aventurine is probly working with them on that front.
i bet you that agreemant is one weird agreemeant
What I really want to know is if Audiovisual will go through with the free Playtesting that was promised to the fanbase. They have no prior experience in MMO marketing from what I can see. Will they be able to handle that?
Anyway, that's really the biggest concern I have since apparently Aventurine lets Audiovisual handle everything regarding distribution.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
oh yeah. Top quality gfx! I love the jagged polygons of the monster's head! You people will bash darkfall until it is winning awards. And even after that, I'm sure. THAT'S OK. We don't want your business around our game anyway!
It's indeed a beta. Thanks for proving the point.
They state, that it will be a "pilot test" or something like that. It basically means a promotional stress test/open beta. As you might know, they have done the actual beta testing with a limited number of professional testers, for obvious reasons.
Love your Avatar.
Its like he is saying to the no-sayers and trolls-
"hihi, what did i tell you"
from what im understanding that is what pilot test is
Dark and Light had a publisher for all of Asia. That must mean it's a good game right?
Right?
RIGHT?
wrong.
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
Dark and Light had a publisher for all of Asia. That must mean it's a good game right?
Right?
RIGHT?
wrong.
we never said it was going to be good
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
crappy labtops i seen pcs being used
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
crappy labtops i seen pcs being used
crappy PC's than?
And none of the Adventurine team have prior MMO experience either. Still, it will be interesting to see what they've managed to do working on crappy laptops, part-time, for eight years. I hope this game does go to beta. The fun has only just begun!
crappy labtops i seen pcs being used
crappy PC's than?
umm no there probly not super new but there good enough. they probly have some really high end ones for testing too
Ya for sure the fun has only begun. Just wait until actual people get to pop in this game... that's when the reality will sink in... just like it did to the thousands of Dark and Light "believers".
It aint gonna be what they've been playing in their heads that's for sure.
Isnt it nice.=)
Now we have gone from a vaporware game to a existing game in like what....10 minutes.
The next challenge for you nay-sayers and trolls will be to learn to like the game. Lets hope for a good beta and a good release, shall we.
Thanks for the update. There were like 100+ members in that post in forumfall
Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
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You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Hence the "pilot program".
Know what happens to Pilot TV shows when no one watches??
They get cancelled.
Isnt it nice.=)
Now we have gone from a vaporware game to a existing game in like what....10 minutes.
The next challenge for you nay-sayers and trolls will be to learn to like the game. Lets hope for a good beta and a good release, shall we.
Because clearly MMOs developed by developers with tons more money and experiences who promised the world haven't failed. Nope. Not at all. Never.
I kind of envy people with such strong dreams. Then again...
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
i think you'e right. a lot of people i think have the idea of Darkfall as some kind of super-WOW, but the actuality will be very different. it *will* be violent, brutal and unforgiving at times, and i think a lot of people won't be able to hack it.
i think you'e right. a lot of people i think have the idea of Darkfall as some kind of super-WOW, but the actuality will be very different. it *will* be violent, brutal and unforgiving at times, and i think a lot of people won't be able to hack it.
glad it wont be a super wow
You're right it does. You know what I think?
I think AudioVisual has a CLAUSE in this agreement that states that they are allowed to test out the product publically before they go ahead and publish it.
Ah, you could well be right. I thought the pilot thing was odd, but put it down to bad translation. But, a testing of the product sounds feasible.
Several native greek speakers have confirmed that the text used is the formal wording for 'beta'.
A swing and a miss eh vapourtrolls? nice try though! Any other vapourtrolls game to step up or are you all reeling from being wtfpwned (again)?
Vapourtrolls are now VAPOURLOLs.
Thanks for the update. There were like 100+ members in that post in forumfall
Pilot program sounds more like a trial program than a beta.
Wouldn't care if they called it Super Happy Fun Time, as long as real people get to play it.
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