Seems like the OP is scared his candidate may loose. Only a cornered and frightened animal lashes out like this. Now..Im done with this typical political thread. I feel dirty even posting in it.
THINGS I FIND WRONG WITH PALIN.: -Shes pro-life, not even wanting victims of rape/incest allowed to get an abortion. -Shes pro-gun, wanting children to have gun-safety lessions (That I support but..) -Shes anti sex-education. (You want children to know how to safely handle a gun but not their reproductive organs?) -Shes anti gay marriage -Shes against the listing of polar bears as an endangered species (probably so she can go rifle hunting for them) because their population has "increased because of conservation efforts". -Shes against legalizing medical marijuana. -Shes infavor of capital punishment. (and is still pro-life? ...) -She supports creationism (but thankfully still believes in teaching both creationism and evolution)
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
90-95%? I would really like to see the hard evidence you use to support that. Obviously you don't remember the 2000 Republican primary.
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
-Shes pro-life, not even wanting victims of rape/incest allowed to get an abortion.
-Shes pro-gun, wanting children to have gun-safety lessions (That I support but..)
-Shes anti sex-education. (You want children to know how to safely handle a gun but not their reproductive organs?)
-Shes anti gay marriage
-Shes against the listing of polar bears as an endangered species (probably so she can go rifle hunting for them) because their population has "increased because of conservation efforts".
-Shes against legalizing medical marijuana.
-Shes infavor of capital punishment. (and is still pro-life? ...)
-She supports creationism (but thankfully still believes in teaching both creationism and evolution) THIS LADY IS INSANE! HELP ME OBAMA!!!
Exactly I was strongly against Obama until i saw this womans views. Obama is a saint compared to this woman she was to bring back n@zism to america.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
Mccain only met Palin once and choose her as his VP. What kind of judgement is that?
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
So you think I am unintelligent to think something may happen to a 72 year old with four bouts of skin cancer?
No, I'm just saying that comparing Palin to anything near Adolf Hitler makes you look like an idiot.
I was exajurating.. her views are still pretty extreme, john mccain is such a maverick why would he pick some one with extreme views like that, a maverick would pick some one who is a maverick like himself. Read up on palins censorship views.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
I'm not saying that Palin was a good choice - I personally would have rather seen Bloomberg or Lieberman as his VP. I just think it's idiotic to think that Obama's choice was completely and utterly unflawed in comparison to McCain's judgment over Palin. To tell the truth, I think both of the VP picks are completely f'ed up the wazzoo. I'm just a Democrat that has nothing going his way. Wesley Clark, Al Gore, Joe Biden, John Warner, Tim Kaine - the list goes on - all of them would have been so much better than Obama as a Presidential candidate.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
I'm not saying that Palin was a good choice - I personally would have rather seen Bloomberg or Lieberman as his VP. I just think it's idiotic to think that Obama's choice was completely and utterly unflawed in comparison to McCain's judgment over Palin. To tell the truth, I think both of the VP picks are completely f'ed up the wazzoo. I'm just a Democrat that has nothing going his way. Wesley Clark, Al Gore, Joe Biden, John Warner, Tim Kaine - the list goes on - all of them would have been so much better than Obama as a Presidential candidate.
I agree but its down to Obama and Mccain currently I am liking Obama better no way I can have mccain with such poor judgement. Only met her once and made her your VP wtf
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
I'm not saying that Palin was a good choice - I personally would have rather seen Bloomberg or Lieberman as his VP. I just think it's idiotic to think that Obama's choice was completely and utterly unflawed in comparison to McCain's judgment over Palin. To tell the truth, I think both of the VP picks are completely f'ed up the wazzoo. I'm just a Democrat that has nothing going his way. Wesley Clark, Al Gore, Joe Biden, John Warner, Tim Kaine - the list goes on - all of them would have been so much better than Obama as a Presidential candidate.
Well, Biden wasn't my first choice, I'd have loved Wesley Clark for VP. But the fact is, Obama's choice is obviously better thought out than McCain's. The proof is in what we've seen this past weekend as opposed to the previous weekend.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
So you think I am unintelligent to think something may happen to a 72 year old with four bouts of skin cancer?
No, I'm just saying that comparing Palin to anything near Adolf Hitler makes you look like an idiot.
I was exajurating.. her views are still pretty extreme, john mccain is such a maverick why would he pick some one with extreme views like that, a maverick would pick some one who is a maverick like himself. Read up on palins censorship views.
Normally I wouldn't refer to a Wikipedia article, but this pretty much sums it up.
Palin frequently went against party interests in her state, and even beat out Murkowsky in the gubernatorial primary while running on a clean-government platform. If that isn't being a maverick, then I don't know what is.
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
Biden's 35 years experience is nothing to laud. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden He is a CFR tool that is running this country into the ground. Not to mention some of his past desicions
Biden stated in 2002 that Saddam Hussein was a threat to national security, and that there was no option but to eliminate that threat. He has long supported the appropriations to pay for the occupation, but has argued repeatedly that the war should be internationalized, that more soldiers are needed, But then does a 180* and recommends no for the surge.
As chairman of the International Narcotics Control Caucus, Biden wrote the laws that created the U.S. "Drug Czar", who oversees and coordinates national drug control policy. I see the Drug war is really working out under his stewardship.
He consistently argued for lifting the arms embargo, training Bosnian Muslims, investigating war crimes and administering NATO air strikes. Biden's subsequent "lift and strike" resolution was instrumental in convincing President Bill Clinton to use military force. The first time the Serbs had seen aircraft bomb them since the Nazi's
The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act (VCCLEA; also known as the Biden Crime Law) was an act of Congress dealing with crime and law enforcement that became law in 1994. It is the largest crime bill in the history of the US and will provide for 100,000 new police officers, $9.7 billion in funding for prisons. And people bitch about all the drug users in prison.
The next year, months before the Oklahoma City bombing took place, Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of "terrorism" that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detection of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review. The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode "constitutional and statutory due process protections" and would "authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and associations."
Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill," he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as "the Democratic Party's de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism."
Biden's chronology is not accurate: the bombing took place in April 1995 and his bill had been introduced in February 1995. But it's true that Biden's proposal probably helped to lay the groundwork for the Bush administration's Patriot Act.
Biden did vote against a FISA bill with retroactive immunity for any telecommunications provider that illegally opened its network to the National Security Agency; Obama didn't. Both agreed to renew the Patriot Act in March 2006, a move that pro-privacy Democrats including Ron Wyden and Russ Feingold opposed. The ACLU said the renewal "fails to correct the most flawed provisions" of the original Patriot Act.
He has also been ivolved in and sponsored several laws and bills that are borderline/or reversed by the supreme courts as unconstitutional.
Biden is one scary politician, i just hope enough people can see that.
As far as the daughter thing, I don't really care. That's her financial and emotional problem, not mine.
What I do have a problem with is Palin saying abortions should not be allowed in the case of rape.
If, God forbid, my daughter is ever raped, and this idiot broad and her policies are in charge, I hope she plans on a few concessions.
One: She'd better have a pardon handy when I string the sumbitch up in the middle of town naked and beat him like a pinata 'til he's dead.
Two: She'd better plan on backing me in court when I sue the bastards' family for child support, or have pardons' ready for the crimes I commit to extract the money from them.
She has to be one of the most right wing conservatives there is. Her stance on video games is borderlined jack thompson, She wants to get rid of all adoption she would not even allow her daughter to have a adoption even if she was R*ped. her own words, she has one of the most anti woman views I have ever seen before. Against the violence and sexual harrasment against women act. The more I Learn about this woman the scarier she is.
John Mccain could not have picked a woman with better views and more experience? Condi rice? Whitman? Figorina? All she has is executive experience, what is that exactly because george bush jr had alot of executive experience as well. Look at mitt romney he has alot of experience in economics and is a great debater. John just wanted a hottie and make his ticket historic.
She truely is scary.
scary to say the least.
but really now... i understand she's less of an eye sore than most women in politics, but really.. why does everyone say she's hot? imo, she looks creepy. you can plainly see the evil burning in her eyes
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-Shes pro-life, not even wanting victims of rape/incest allowed to get an abortion.
So? The idea that because someone is raped, or decides to have sex with their brother, that somehow murdering the baby in the belly, will make everything better?
Oh yah, makes perfect sense, one evil already happend, lets top it off with an even greater evil!
-Shes pro-gun, wanting children to have gun-safety lessions (That I support but..)
-Shes anti sex-education. (You want children to know how to safely handle a gun but not their reproductive organs?)
I'd like to see a statement saying to what extent she's anti sex-education. I doubt she wants her children on their honeymoon having trouble figuring out what goes where because they never were informed.
-Shes anti gay marriage
So?
Most conservatives are.
-Shes against the listing of polar bears as an endangered species (probably so she can go rifle hunting for them) because their population has "increased because of conservation efforts".
That's not really a valid reason to being against her being the VP.
-Shes against legalizing medical marijuana.
I don't agree with that. Marijuana is a harmless "herb" for the most part. Just makes people lazy as hell.
-Shes infavor of capital punishment. (and is still pro-life? ...)
There's a difference between protecting the life of the unborn, and protecting the life of Jeffrey Dahmer.
-She supports creationism (but thankfully still believes in teaching both creationism and evolution)
Oh wow, unlike most liberals, someone willing to teach both sides of the coin, and let the students decide.
THE INSANITY! Free thinking, what is she thinking?!
THIS LADY IS INSANE! HELP ME OBAMA!!!
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Her 17 year old girl is pregnant and unmarried? and McCain had only seen palin once before in his whole life, how desperate was this choice. He talks about Obama not having any experience but then picks a small time fellow republican from Alaska? the mind I am sure you die hard republicans on this forum will have some pathetic excuse for this but that does not surprise me at all.
That is still rumor. Until you find out it is fact, then why not make that clear?
You need to keep up with the latest news..lol
I usually do. This one slid under my radar.
Actually, I just kind of glimpsed over it and thought he was talking about the whole Down's Baby thing.
Regardless, my bad. Commence the kicking of me in the ribs now.
Originally posted by Midnitte THINGS I FIND WRONG WITH PALIN.: -Shes pro-life, not even wanting victims of rape/incest allowed to get an abortion. So? The idea that because someone is raped, or decides to have sex with their brother, that somehow murdering the baby in the belly, will make everything better?
Oh yah, makes perfect sense, one evil already happend, lets top it off with an even greater evil!
The mother didn't have a choice in having the baby; wouldn't you like a choice?
-Shes pro-gun, wanting children to have gun-safety lessions (That I support but..) -Shes anti sex-education. (You want children to know how to safely handle a gun but not their reproductive organs?) I'd like to see a statement saying to what extent she's anti sex-education. I doubt she wants her children on their honeymoon having trouble figuring out what goes where because they never were informed.
She doesn't believe in sex before marriage and doesn't want children to know about sex, hence no sex education. SEE: question #3
-Shes anti gay marriage So? Most conservatives are.
-Shes against the listing of polar bears as an endangered species (probably so she can go rifle hunting for them) because their population has "increased because of conservation efforts". That's not really a valid reason to being against her being the VP.
Perhaps not, but it could certainly ruin the environment and biodiversity of this planet.
-Shes against legalizing medical marijuana. I don't agree with that. Marijuana is a harmless "herb" for the most part. Just makes people lazy as hell.
If it's "harmless", then why ban it at all? Its used for people who suffer from illness such as chronic pain.
-Shes infavor of capital punishment. (and is still pro-life? ...) There's a difference between protecting the life of the unborn, and protecting the life of Jeffrey Dahmer.
True, but ending a life is still ending a life; Let God or w/e religion they believe in deal the final judgement.
-She supports creationism (but thankfully still believes in teaching both creationism and evolution) Oh wow, unlike most liberals, someone willing to teach both sides of the coin, and let the students decide.
Evolution is fact; some religious nut who still believes in creationism is the same nut from The Mist who will sacrifice you to "God's Demons" to survive longer.
THE INSANITY! Free thinking, what is she thinking?!
Free thinking is fine, but the day you teach something without scientific fact is the day we let Bush run the country for another 4 years. THIS LADY IS INSANE! HELP ME OBAMA!!!
If you're going to rag on McCain's judgment over choosing Palin as his running mate, then maybe you should also question Obama's judgment over his decision to select Biden. Is a guy that steals, for political gain, speeches from Labour's Neil Kinnock much better than a woman who has a troubled daughter? The nerve.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
I am sick of this 90-95% voting crap. So what if a man who is a republican voted Republican the last 8 years. His overall record is one of middle of the road and crossing over. Heck even in the past 8 years there was a year where his voting record was 77%.
5 or 6 years out of a 20+ year does not make him the same as Bush. Heck at least he has voted on issues. Obama seems to have voted present for a ton of votes without any actual vote.
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-Shes anti gay marriage So? Most conservatives are.
No, actually most religious Neo-Conservatives are. There was actually a time when the religious had not invaded the Republican party. There was a time when the Republican party believed in states rights and allowing the states to decide on issues such as this. There was a time when the separation of church and state was understood because it just makes sense. Those are the people I consider true conservatives. The kind that are from the Goldwater days, he warned us about this happening!
-Shes anti gay marriage So? Most conservatives are.
No, actually most religious Neo-Conservatives are. There was actually a time when the religious had not invaded the Republican party. There was a time when the Republican party believed in states rights and allowing the states to decide on issues such as this. There was a time when the separation of church and state was understood because it just makes sense. Those are the people I consider true conservatives. The kind that are from the Goldwater days, he warned us about this happening!
And that needs to be reinforced and enforced. The minute the religious nutters get in total control we'll be declaring Holy War in the name of Christ on all the heathen countries ( or if Obama is running the show at the time, we'll be declaring Jihad and recruiting Bin Laden ), and any freedoms we have left in this country will be stripped bare.
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THINGS I FIND WRONG WITH PALIN.:
-Shes pro-life, not even wanting victims of rape/incest allowed to get an abortion.
-Shes pro-gun, wanting children to have gun-safety lessions (That I support but..)
-Shes anti sex-education. (You want children to know how to safely handle a gun but not their reproductive organs?)
-Shes anti gay marriage
-Shes against the listing of polar bears as an endangered species (probably so she can go rifle hunting for them) because their population has "increased because of conservation efforts".
-Shes against legalizing medical marijuana.
-Shes infavor of capital punishment. (and is still pro-life? ...)
-She supports creationism (but thankfully still believes in teaching both creationism and evolution)
THIS LADY IS INSANE! HELP ME OBAMA!!!
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
90-95%? I would really like to see the hard evidence you use to support that. Obviously you don't remember the 2000 Republican primary.
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
Exactly I was strongly against Obama until i saw this womans views. Obama is a saint compared to this woman she was to bring back n@zism to america.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
Palin =/= Extremism. www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
Palin =/= Extremism. www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
So you think I am unintelligent to think something may happen to a 72 year old with four bouts of skin cancer?
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
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Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
Mccain only met Palin once and choose her as his VP. What kind of judgement is that?
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
Palin =/= Extremism. www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
So you think I am unintelligent to think something may happen to a 72 year old with four bouts of skin cancer?
No, I'm just saying that comparing Palin to anything near Adolf Hitler makes you look like an idiot.
McCain is considered for being too liberal by some neo-cons, Palin was picked so she could give political bj's for that audience.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
Palin =/= Extremism. www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
So you think I am unintelligent to think something may happen to a 72 year old with four bouts of skin cancer?
No, I'm just saying that comparing Palin to anything near Adolf Hitler makes you look like an idiot.
I was exajurating.. her views are still pretty extreme, john mccain is such a maverick why would he pick some one with extreme views like that, a maverick would pick some one who is a maverick like himself. Read up on palins censorship views.
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
I'm not saying that Palin was a good choice - I personally would have rather seen Bloomberg or Lieberman as his VP. I just think it's idiotic to think that Obama's choice was completely and utterly unflawed in comparison to McCain's judgment over Palin. To tell the truth, I think both of the VP picks are completely f'ed up the wazzoo. I'm just a Democrat that has nothing going his way. Wesley Clark, Al Gore, Joe Biden, John Warner, Tim Kaine - the list goes on - all of them would have been so much better than Obama as a Presidential candidate.
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
I'm not saying that Palin was a good choice - I personally would have rather seen Bloomberg or Lieberman as his VP. I just think it's idiotic to think that Obama's choice was completely and utterly unflawed in comparison to McCain's judgment over Palin. To tell the truth, I think both of the VP picks are completely f'ed up the wazzoo. I'm just a Democrat that has nothing going his way. Wesley Clark, Al Gore, Joe Biden, John Warner, Tim Kaine - the list goes on - all of them would have been so much better than Obama as a Presidential candidate.
I agree but its down to Obama and Mccain currently I am liking Obama better no way I can have mccain with such poor judgement. Only met her once and made her your VP wtf
Look what we've seen over the past four days on Palin.
Now we're finding that she was one of the directors of a fund raising organziation for the utterly corrupt Stevens.
She's got all sorts of baggage that's coming to light, and expect more.
It's obvious that McCain's vetting team are abject amateurs. They should have caught all this before McCain made the announcement.
McCain's judgement is fatally flawed. This controversey demonstrates it.
BTW, you should check out the announcement footage for McCain obviously checking out Palin's ass.
I'm not saying that Palin was a good choice - I personally would have rather seen Bloomberg or Lieberman as his VP. I just think it's idiotic to think that Obama's choice was completely and utterly unflawed in comparison to McCain's judgment over Palin. To tell the truth, I think both of the VP picks are completely f'ed up the wazzoo. I'm just a Democrat that has nothing going his way. Wesley Clark, Al Gore, Joe Biden, John Warner, Tim Kaine - the list goes on - all of them would have been so much better than Obama as a Presidential candidate.
Well, Biden wasn't my first choice, I'd have loved Wesley Clark for VP. But the fact is, Obama's choice is obviously better thought out than McCain's. The proof is in what we've seen this past weekend as opposed to the previous weekend.
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What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
Since when do we vote for the VP alone? I would vote for Biden over Palin for President any day of the week, but the President slot - now that's an entirely different story. McCain has frequently gone against the Republican party, and one case that stands out in my mind is his participation in the Gang of 14. McCain is willing to compromise on the issues - Obama, on the other hand, gets straight in line with the rest of the Democrats on every vote through Congress.
Obama stresses "party unity" (a.k.a. "do what ever I tell you to do" mentality) when 27% of Clinton supporters threaten to vote for McCain in November. How does it look when a candidate can't even compromise within his own party?
Mccain is 72 years old with four bouts of skin cancer Palin who i was voting for mccain before his VP choice came out mind you shes a heart beat away from the presidency, her views are so extreme they border n@zism. No thanks ill safely take 4 years of Obama/biden, ron paul, Barr over this crazy lady and her old man
A reactionary, eh? You make yourself sound more and more unintelligent. I advise you to look at the issues, and see the candidates for who they truly are. I'm voting for the President of the United States of America - I think it's better to have a horrible VP candidate than have a horrible Presidential candidate. People didn't vote FDR into office four times in a row because he had Garner, Wallace and Truman as VPs.
Palin =/= Extremism. www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
So you think I am unintelligent to think something may happen to a 72 year old with four bouts of skin cancer?
No, I'm just saying that comparing Palin to anything near Adolf Hitler makes you look like an idiot.
I was exajurating.. her views are still pretty extreme, john mccain is such a maverick why would he pick some one with extreme views like that, a maverick would pick some one who is a maverick like himself. Read up on palins censorship views.
Normally I wouldn't refer to a Wikipedia article, but this pretty much sums it up.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
Palin frequently went against party interests in her state, and even beat out Murkowsky in the gubernatorial primary while running on a clean-government platform. If that isn't being a maverick, then I don't know what is.
What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
Biden's 35 years experience is nothing to laud. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden He is a CFR tool that is running this country into the ground. Not to mention some of his past desicions
Biden stated in 2002 that Saddam Hussein was a threat to national security, and that there was no option but to eliminate that threat. He has long supported the appropriations to pay for the occupation, but has argued repeatedly that the war should be internationalized, that more soldiers are needed, But then does a 180* and recommends no for the surge.
As chairman of the International Narcotics Control Caucus, Biden wrote the laws that created the U.S. "Drug Czar", who oversees and coordinates national drug control policy. I see the Drug war is really working out under his stewardship.
He consistently argued for lifting the arms embargo, training Bosnian Muslims, investigating war crimes and administering NATO air strikes. Biden's subsequent "lift and strike" resolution was instrumental in convincing President Bill Clinton to use military force. The first time the Serbs had seen aircraft bomb them since the Nazi's
The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act (VCCLEA; also known as the Biden Crime Law) was an act of Congress dealing with crime and law enforcement that became law in 1994. It is the largest crime bill in the history of the US and will provide for 100,000 new police officers, $9.7 billion in funding for prisons. And people bitch about all the drug users in prison.
And how bout Bidens stand on the Patriot act? news.yahoo.com/s/cnet/20080824/tc_cnet/83011357831002416338_1
The next year, months before the Oklahoma City bombing took place, Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of "terrorism" that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detection of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review. The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode "constitutional and statutory due process protections" and would "authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and associations."
Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill," he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as "the Democratic Party's de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism."
Biden's chronology is not accurate: the bombing took place in April 1995 and his bill had been introduced in February 1995. But it's true that Biden's proposal probably helped to lay the groundwork for the Bush administration's Patriot Act.
Biden did vote against a FISA bill with retroactive immunity for any telecommunications provider that illegally opened its network to the National Security Agency; Obama didn't. Both agreed to renew the Patriot Act in March 2006, a move that pro-privacy Democrats including Ron Wyden and Russ Feingold opposed. The ACLU said the renewal "fails to correct the most flawed provisions" of the original Patriot Act.
He has also been ivolved in and sponsored several laws and bills that are borderline/or reversed by the supreme courts as unconstitutional.
Biden is one scary politician, i just hope enough people can see that.
As far as the daughter thing, I don't really care. That's her financial and emotional problem, not mine.
What I do have a problem with is Palin saying abortions should not be allowed in the case of rape.
If, God forbid, my daughter is ever raped, and this idiot broad and her policies are in charge, I hope she plans on a few concessions.
One: She'd better have a pardon handy when I string the sumbitch up in the middle of town naked and beat him like a pinata 'til he's dead.
Two: She'd better plan on backing me in court when I sue the bastards' family for child support, or have pardons' ready for the crimes I commit to extract the money from them.
scary to say the least.
but really now... i understand she's less of an eye sore than most women in politics, but really.. why does everyone say she's hot? imo, she looks creepy. you can plainly see the evil burning in her eyes
war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
big brother is watching you
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
That is still rumor. Until you find out it is fact, then why not make that clear?
You need to keep up with the latest news..lol
I usually do. This one slid under my radar.
Actually, I just kind of glimpsed over it and thought he was talking about the whole Down's Baby thing.
Regardless, my bad. Commence the kicking of me in the ribs now.
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What does Palin complement john mccain on? Where does she pick up on his weakness? is it because hes a man and shes a woman?
Biden has 35 years experience and foriegn policy Obama picked some one that would complement his weakness. Now for what reasons did Mccain pick Palin?
You're not very learned concerning the Reublican credo, I suppose. Palin is much more of a right-leaning conservative than John McCain ever was. One of the biggest problems with McCain's candidacy is that most hard-core Republicans (and even more importantly, the evangelical Christian supporters they mobilise for votes) do not like his middle-of-the-road approach towards politics - whether you like it or not, McCain has been a maverick independent in the Senate for 20 some years. Palin being a woman wasn't what got her the VP selection (but it certainly is a bonus), and it would be idiotic to think otherwise.
Thats nice but mccain being a maverick votes 90-95% of george bush? Yea true maverick any way, what is her economic experience where as john mccain says he has no knowledge of? Where is her foriegn experience if god forbid mccain were to die in office? oh thats right she has a ton because Alaska is right next to russia
I am sick of this 90-95% voting crap. So what if a man who is a republican voted Republican the last 8 years. His overall record is one of middle of the road and crossing over. Heck even in the past 8 years there was a year where his voting record was 77%.
5 or 6 years out of a 20+ year does not make him the same as Bush. Heck at least he has voted on issues. Obama seems to have voted present for a ton of votes without any actual vote.
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Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
No, actually most religious Neo-Conservatives are. There was actually a time when the religious had not invaded the Republican party. There was a time when the Republican party believed in states rights and allowing the states to decide on issues such as this. There was a time when the separation of church and state was understood because it just makes sense. Those are the people I consider true conservatives. The kind that are from the Goldwater days, he warned us about this happening!
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No, actually most religious Neo-Conservatives are. There was actually a time when the religious had not invaded the Republican party. There was a time when the Republican party believed in states rights and allowing the states to decide on issues such as this. There was a time when the separation of church and state was understood because it just makes sense. Those are the people I consider true conservatives. The kind that are from the Goldwater days, he warned us about this happening!
And that needs to be reinforced and enforced. The minute the religious nutters get in total control we'll be declaring Holy War in the name of Christ on all the heathen countries ( or if Obama is running the show at the time, we'll be declaring Jihad and recruiting Bin Laden ), and any freedoms we have left in this country will be stripped bare.