Now honestly i would say there is immature players on both sides thats why its important you make friends and guild with mature people.
This always my priority in any mmropg i get into a discussion with folks and from there we become friends.
Usually its people in my age range ie 20s-30s.This mainly because we have similar issues like mortgages,career plans etc.I usually like to know people i hunt with have more in common then just mmorpg since we can spent hours together on a weekend.
So what i am trying to say i would not let any game bug you that they have too many immature people because you can always go find the type of people you feel more comfortable with and there are thousands of people in every mmorpg.
If i was to make a general statement i would say EQ2 would probably be more attractive to the older gamers then the younger crowd.
Yes, sorry I wasn't clearer. I understood where Tombs was going but as Adora also noticed, it wasn't directly related with the differentiation between the two examples provided in the originating post.
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Originally posted by Maseloc Hello, I played EQ for about 4 years so naturally i am a much bigger fan of EQ then WoW. Recently my curiosity got the better of me and i started browsing around reading about WoW. I visited the WoW forums on their official page and i only have one question, are all warcraft fans 5 years old? All thats in there is flames and insults. This has made me think, if those people in the forums are going to be the ones playing the game why would anyone bother trying the game? Community is a big part of any mmorpg you play, and this one is gonna suck. I guess my question is why? why are the WoW forums so much more immature then the EQ2 forums. Anyone know?
-Loc
because the majority of WoW fanbois are RTS kiddies who only know the flaming, spamming, "l33t t4lking" world of modern RTS's... and Diablo...
half of them still think its a freaking RTS... the other half complain its going to have a monthly fee... its quite funny really...
i personally (along with 99% of the MMORPG community) will be at the front line when OB hits and its gonna be PAINFUL... *ready's "l33t" shield*
now the reason EQ2 has a more "mature" community (not by much i must add) is because they are generally REAL MMORPG'ers who know what they're talking about... they have actually played an MMORPG or 2 in their life time...
now, im not flaming the entire WoW fan base, because i myself am a part of it (starting like 3 days ago) and i know that a good portion of them are really mature, MMORPG'ers... im simply stating that WoW will indeffinatly have the single most "l33t" community of any other MMORPG to date... and that includes runescape (at least for Open Beta anyways)
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Originally posted by Maseloc I visited the WoW forums on their official page and i only have one question, are all warcraft fans 5 years old? All thats in there is flames and insults. This has made me think, if those people in the forums are going to be the ones playing the game why would anyone bother trying the game? Community is a big part of any mmorpg you play, and this one is gonna suck.
That was the biggest deciding factor on why I choose not to play WoW. I had frequent the WoW forums for about a year now, and I have seen more acts of immaturity at the WoW forums than anywhere else.
Now, you can be rest assured that probably 50% of all those immature people will be playing WoW. Which sucks, because it will ruin it for all those WoW fans who are mature and have been waiting for a decent game.
Sadly, I see the community being overran by players shouting various leet speeches, racial slurs, and comments you would normally hear in a Junior high school locker room.
This, by all means, wasn't posted to bash the game itself. I posted this because I have seen the immature acts on their official forums. Is it the DEVs fault? probably not. But one thing I am sure about:
If they cannot effectively moderate the little kids on their forums, what will their community ingame be like? Surely, they will not have enough GMs to counter attack any immature racial slur ever shouted out.
Also, the question was raised "How come WoW forums are so immature yet the Everquest forums arent"
Well, truthfully, I really don't know. But I have noticed the same thing. The EQ2 forums tend to be very mature. However, this does not mean that EQ2 will have their fair share of racist and/or immature bigots.
Originally posted by WizGamer Now hear me out, its just an opinion, I don't want yours. .
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I actually think EQ2 would will be better than WoW, but im going to be playing WoW because im not willing to upgrade my entire comp for EQ2 and WoW is a pretty good game to. Good comp= Go play EQ2 Not so great comp and dont want to upgrade= Go play wow
Originally posted by hauj0bb Hah, you guys think the wow community is bad? ever played Lineage 2? Probably one of the worst gaming communities I've ever experienced.
buddy... BUDDY... its WoW you're talking about here...
Lineage 2 community will be nothing compared to the WoW community... btw, i still play Lineage 2 and the community really isnt that bad
WoW on the other hand... well here... let me give you an example of the 1st week in OB...
---------Chat Bar---------
"WTFPWNDED n00bzer HAHAHA roflzzz in mY WAFFLEZZZ!!!1!!1!11!!!one!!!1!Eleven!11!'
"nuubz ju5t g0t AL CAPWNED!!1!!1!!one!11!!!1!!eleven!1!"
"N1ghT 3Lf > joo n3wbz BWAHAHA~"
"WTS Nerf Bat 10g ~OBO~"
"WTS Joe Mahma OHHH WTFPWNEDED~!!1!1!!!one!11!!eleven!!1"
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I'm not sure how l2 is these days, but I played from closed beta untill retail and about 3 months afterwords. During that time I experienced exactly what you predict WoW to be like during open beta.
Though, I don't see wow getting that bad, L2 had poor customer service, GM's that couldn't even speak english. China sweatshop farmers, macro-bots, mass adena dupes, shady players always looking to shaft someone, mass exploits, griefers, deleveled PK'ers(not sure if this was ever fixed), and the worst ebay problems I've ever seen. Probably to this day the most corrupt game since diablo 2 online. I played up to 40, completed my bladedancer quest and quit.
I love WoW. Never played EQ. But the thing that burns me is people saying OMG EQ GFX ROCK! When they haven't even played the game. They're basing this on a bunch of pictures and then they say o WoW gfx suck. I havent played EQ2 but hopefully ill win a beta. But for the most part i Liked WoW. The cartoonish feel to it was great. People are trying to make games more realistic now a days, but hey If i wanted real life stuff i'd go out and play in RL. Ne ways I am in no way bashing EQ2, but I would like to beta test it.
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Alot of posts in all the forums I've been to get quite childish I suppose. I came to MMORPG.com just weeks ago, I didn't realize there were that many MMORPGs out there. Anyway, I've been following up with WoW forever and came here to look at other games, getting bored with FFXI. Anyway, I found WoW and EQ2 ranked highest and click EQ2 and saw the war going on. "EQ2 rocks! WoW sucks!" and "WoW rocks! EQ2 sucks!" At first, being a WoW "fanboi"(???), I only saw all the childish posters bashing it. But coming back WoW has it's share bashing EQ2. It's just people getting excited about these two games.
Immaturity is everywhere in any public forum I'm finding, and any MMORPG for that matter. But there is also alot of good information and discussion to be found. Same for in game communities, luck of the draw.
I have good real-life friends I play MMORPGs with and some days they're a blast, some days I wish the would just shut up or log off. LOL
Im a 40 yr old woman that is tired of hearing the bickering between Wow and eq 2. They will BOTH be good.
What they should do is make a mature server where you have to be a certain age,not to say all young people are a burden , I have met many very sweet young people that I totally enjoy playing with.But it would be nice to have the option as well as a teen server which Im sure some teens would enjoy. As a parent I would love the teen channel for my son !
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The long standing epic war of WoW vs EQ2.
Now honestly i would say there is immature players on both sides thats why its important you make friends and guild with mature people.
This always my priority in any mmropg i get into a discussion with folks and from there we become friends.
Usually its people in my age range ie 20s-30s.This mainly because we have similar issues like mortgages,career plans etc.I usually like to know people i hunt with have more in common then just mmorpg since we can spent hours together on a weekend.
So what i am trying to say i would not let any game bug you that they have too many immature people because you can always go find the type of people you feel more comfortable with and there are thousands of people in every mmorpg.
If i was to make a general statement i would say EQ2 would probably be more attractive to the older gamers then the younger crowd.
Yes, sorry I wasn't clearer. I understood where Tombs was going but as Adora also noticed, it wasn't directly related with the differentiation between the two examples provided in the originating post.
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because the majority of WoW fanbois are RTS kiddies who only know the flaming, spamming, "l33t t4lking" world of modern RTS's... and Diablo...
half of them still think its a freaking RTS... the other half complain its going to have a monthly fee... its quite funny really...
i personally (along with 99% of the MMORPG community) will be at the front line when OB hits and its gonna be PAINFUL... *ready's "l33t" shield*
now the reason EQ2 has a more "mature" community (not by much i must add) is because they are generally REAL MMORPG'ers who know what they're talking about... they have actually played an MMORPG or 2 in their life time...
now, im not flaming the entire WoW fan base, because i myself am a part of it (starting like 3 days ago) and i know that a good portion of them are really mature, MMORPG'ers... im simply stating that WoW will indeffinatly have the single most "l33t" community of any other MMORPG to date... and that includes runescape (at least for Open Beta anyways)
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That was the biggest deciding factor on why I choose not to play WoW. I had frequent the WoW forums for about a year now, and I have seen more acts of immaturity at the WoW forums than anywhere else.
Now, you can be rest assured that probably 50% of all those immature people will be playing WoW. Which sucks, because it will ruin it for all those WoW fans who are mature and have been waiting for a decent game.
Sadly, I see the community being overran by players shouting various leet speeches, racial slurs, and comments you would normally hear in a Junior high school locker room.
This, by all means, wasn't posted to bash the game itself. I posted this because I have seen the immature acts on their official forums. Is it the DEVs fault? probably not. But one thing I am sure about:
If they cannot effectively moderate the little kids on their forums, what will their community ingame be like? Surely, they will not have enough GMs to counter attack any immature racial slur ever shouted out.
Also, the question was raised "How come WoW forums are so immature yet the Everquest forums arent"
Well, truthfully, I really don't know. But I have noticed the same thing. The EQ2 forums tend to be very mature. However, this does not mean that EQ2 will have their fair share of racist and/or immature bigots.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
MoooOOOoooo!
Hah, you guys think the wow community is bad? ever played Lineage 2? Probably one of the worst gaming communities I've ever experienced.
buddy... BUDDY... its WoW you're talking about here...
Lineage 2 community will be nothing compared to the WoW community... btw, i still play Lineage 2 and the community really isnt that bad
WoW on the other hand... well here... let me give you an example of the 1st week in OB...
---------Chat Bar---------
"WTFPWNDED n00bzer HAHAHA roflzzz in mY WAFFLEZZZ!!!1!!1!11!!!one!!!1!Eleven!11!'
"nuubz ju5t g0t AL CAPWNED!!1!!1!!one!11!!!1!!eleven!1!"
"N1ghT 3Lf > joo n3wbz BWAHAHA~"
"WTS Nerf Bat 10g ~OBO~"
"WTS Joe Mahma OHHH WTFPWNEDED~!!1!1!!!one!11!!eleven!!1"
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Games Currently Playing - Lineage 2, RF Online.
Favorite Game So Far - Lineage 1 ^^
Waiting For - WoW (OB is gonna be hell T_T l337 d3wdz everywhere =_=)
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I'm not sure how l2 is these days, but I played from closed beta untill retail and about 3 months afterwords. During that time I experienced exactly what you predict WoW to be like during open beta.
Though, I don't see wow getting that bad, L2 had poor customer service, GM's that couldn't even speak english. China sweatshop farmers, macro-bots, mass adena dupes, shady players always looking to shaft someone, mass exploits, griefers, deleveled PK'ers(not sure if this was ever fixed), and the worst ebay problems I've ever seen. Probably to this day the most corrupt game since diablo 2 online. I played up to 40, completed my bladedancer quest and quit.
I love WoW. Never played EQ. But the thing that burns me is people saying OMG EQ GFX ROCK! When they haven't even played the game. They're basing this on a bunch of pictures and then they say o WoW gfx suck. I havent played EQ2 but hopefully ill win a beta. But for the most part i Liked WoW. The cartoonish feel to it was great. People are trying to make games more realistic now a days, but hey If i wanted real life stuff i'd go out and play in RL. Ne ways I am in no way bashing EQ2, but I would like to beta test it.
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UO - 4 years
AC - 2 years
AC2 - 6 months
DAoC - 1 month
FFXI - 7 months
Diablo2 - 9 months
Shadowbane - Beta Tested
Lineage2 - Beta Tested
Saga of Ryzom - Beta Tested
Risk Your Life - Beta Tested
World of Warcraft - Beta Testing
mmoRPG'er since October 1997
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UO - 4 years
AC - 2 years
AC2 - 6 months
DAoC - 1 month
FFXI - 7 months
Diablo2 - 9 months
Shadowbane - Beta Tested
Lineage2 - Beta Tested
Saga of Ryzom - Beta Tested
Risk Your Life - Beta Tested
World of Warcraft - Currently Playing
mmoRPG'er since October 1997
Alot of posts in all the forums I've been to get quite childish I suppose. I came to MMORPG.com just weeks ago, I didn't realize there were that many MMORPGs out there. Anyway, I've been following up with WoW forever and came here to look at other games, getting bored with FFXI. Anyway, I found WoW and EQ2 ranked highest and click EQ2 and saw the war going on. "EQ2 rocks! WoW sucks!" and "WoW rocks! EQ2 sucks!" At first, being a WoW "fanboi"(???), I only saw all the childish posters bashing it. But coming back WoW has it's share bashing EQ2. It's just people getting excited about these two games.
Immaturity is everywhere in any public forum I'm finding, and any MMORPG for that matter. But there is also alot of good information and discussion to be found. Same for in game communities, luck of the draw.
I have good real-life friends I play MMORPGs with and some days they're a blast, some days I wish the would just shut up or log off. LOL
~TaintedPure
~It's taffy.
Im a 40 yr old woman that is tired of hearing the bickering between Wow and eq 2. They will BOTH be good.
What they should do is make a mature server where you have to be a certain age,not to say all young people are a burden , I have met many very sweet young people that I totally enjoy playing with.But it would be nice to have the option as well as a teen server which Im sure some teens would enjoy. As a parent I would love the teen channel for my son !
Just my 2 cents worth...not worth a nickel !
Airelle Wolfheart
65 shammy Lanys
Give it a rest, this is just boring now!
WoW or EQ2, what is the measure of which is better?
Answer: Personal Opinion.