Sure the graphics are not top notch, but hell read through the feature list and watch wahts going on in the video and its awesome.
I still have doubts; the video claims that its out in 2008, and for the third time they are accepting beta applications.
Those worried about population just look at the DF forums; currently 650 people online and going crazy about it. A lot of people are waiting for an MMO that doesnt revolve around the same old questing and item rewards.
Give us territory control, empire building and massive battles and its going to be huge.
I never really followed Darkfall much tbh, and this vid didnt change anything about that. It is kinda like "meh". First off as a very visual person I found the graphics are... well horrible tbh. Its that kind of graphics you'd expect in the DAoC era, and while I dont need AoC lushness to enjoy a game, I do need a certain level of sophisticated art style, and Darkfalls falls quite flat on its nose in this department.
Another not was, while too in AoC violence didnt disturb me and I am looking out for WAR, the constant war in the Darkfall trailer annoyed and almost disturbed me for some reason. It felt like the entire game was revolving around slaughter and nothing else, and while I dunno if that is the case, it kinda presented the game poorly for me. Not only was it like a big, bad Zergfest, it also was badly animated and felt a bit too much focussed on violence. It may sound weird from someone being hyped into WAR, but Warhammer always has that element of comic relief, the various elements make the war more feel like a football game counting points. I cant 100% point my finger at it, but there was a level of grimness I found ugly, like a nightmare or hell I would not want to live in.
Finally, on a personal note, I felt very sorry for the developer. It is clear a lot of work and personal dedication went into this game, and I have great respect towards that, in our days when more and more games are soulless standard ware. I fear, no matter how many things they add, like Naval battle, cities and whatsoever, personally I feel this game has little or no chance to be anything but a very tiny niche game, always on the brink of falling into oblivion, and its always disheartning to see great dedication not being rewarded. I just very strongly feel that the days of such sandbox games is gone like the era of dinosaurs.
I'm going to say what many others said in this thread. Screw Graphics!!!! I mean graphics are good but in the end its the game that matters is it not? Theres many games I love that have shitty graphics. take pong for instance. You can get stoned and play that with your friends for hours. Mario, sonic and metroid, all classics. The graphics aren't what really matter. Age of Conan is a prime example of that. Vanguard is another.
Sorry, but beauty is only skin deep.
On that note if this game delivers what it promises. I have a feeling I will be playing this for awhile,
I never really followed Darkfall much tbh, and this vid didnt change anything about that. It is kinda like "meh". First off as a very visual person I found the graphics are... well horrible tbh. Its that kind of graphics you'd expect in the DAoC era, and while I dont need AoC lushness to enjoy a game, I do need a certain level of sophisticated art style, and Darkfalls falls quite flat on its nose in this department. Another not was, while too in AoC violence didnt disturb me and I am looking out for WAR, the constant war in the Darkfall trailer annoyed and almost disturbed me for some reason. It felt like the entire game was revolving around slaughter and nothing else, and while I dunno if that is the case, it kinda presented the game poorly for me. Not only was it like a big, bad Zergfest, it also was badly animated and felt a bit too much focussed on violence. It may sound weird from someone being hyped into WAR, but Warhammer always has that element of comic relief, the various elements make the war more feel like a football game counting points. I cant 100% point my finger at it, but there was a level of grimness I found ugly, like a nightmare or hell I would not want to live in. Finally, on a personal note, I felt very sorry for the developer. It is clear a lot of work and personal dedication went into this game, and I have great respect towards that, in our days when more and more games are soulless standard ware. I fear, no matter how many things they add, like Naval battle, cities and whatsoever, personally I feel this game has little or no chance to be anything but a very tiny niche game, always on the brink of falling into oblivion, and its always disheartning to see great dedication not being rewarded. I just very strongly feel that the days of such sandbox games is gone like the era of dinosaurs.
EVE is proof enough that a market for PVP sandboxes exists, and it's obvious that many people are aching for a high fantasy themed PVP sandbox too, and Darkfall is that game.
There's no doubt that Darkfall is going to be too hardcore for some, and that it will always be niche next to mass-appeal generic themepark (grind) games like WOW, AoC, WAR. If Darkfall can achieve even 100K+ subscribers it will have been a huge success.
But who knows? Many WOW/AoC/War players who deep down want *more* from a MMO, who want their actions in the world to actually *matter* and who crave a deep and complex world instead of pointless grind after grind might try Darkfall and love it.
Personally i think it's going to be epic - a fantasy-based MMO like EVE on steroids. There's so much stuff to do -- build cities/houses/props, territorial conquest, REAL world PVP, mounted combat and cavalry, naval combat and high seas piracy, hardcore PVEer/raider, explorer... the possibilities are only limited by imagination.
While I understand this video is meant to generate hype I think we are all beyond that now. They need to release a gameplay video, you know showing actual people playing the game. Even a mini fight between co workers would prove much more than this video.
"Personally i think it's going to be epic - a fantasy-based MMO like EVE on steroids. There's so much stuff to do -- build cities/houses/props, territorial conquest, REAL world PVP, mounted combat and cavalry, naval combat and high seas piracy, hardcore PVEer/raider, explorer... the possibilities are only limited by imagination."
Ah...let's wait to see what the game provides when released, just because the features mentioned are on the website does not mean they will be implemented anytime soon in the game. It usually takes years to get a feature set like that working correctly. I would rather they have what is in game working then a bunch of features that are there that don't work.
With the small staff they have, some features are going to be way down the road.
I wouldn't be surprised at all seeing this is Darkfall and all, that the reason the graphics look like they are from 2004 is becuase the game footage IS from 2004.
see this is where opinion matters alot because to me these graphics look like they are from 2010, where as war and wow look to me like they are from 1995, and aoc just feels like a cgi with no gameplay circa any year. Anyways, to each his own, and to yours alot less.
I agree that graphics are subjective and that gameplay should be priority, but 2010? Come on now...
Figures look a bit stiff...overall not too bad ...especially given the time this thing started development...game looks fun as hell though. I'll try it.
"Personally i think it's going to be epic - a fantasy-based MMO like EVE on steroids. There's so much stuff to do -- build cities/houses/props, territorial conquest, REAL world PVP, mounted combat and cavalry, naval combat and high seas piracy, hardcore PVEer/raider, explorer... the possibilities are only limited by imagination." Ah...let's wait to see what the game provides when released, just because the features mentioned are on the website does not mean they will be implemented anytime soon in the game. It usually takes years to get a feature set like that working correctly. I would rather they have what is in game working then a bunch of features that are there that don't work. With the small staff they have, some features are going to be way down the road.
Have you even watched the video? All the gameplay is demonstrated, using 100% footage from player viewpoint. The majority of the game is first person, and a tight 3rd person view when a melee is drawn.
Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING!
Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's: Boats? (Vanguard and POTBS) Housing? (EQ2, Vanguard, DAOC etc.) Mounts? (a number of other MMO's already have them, but if you want specifically Mounted Battle as in the video, I believe AoC was supposed to do this and I know WoW will be doing this as well as WAR, if this is incorrect, please let me know) Siegable fortresses? WAR and WoW are also coming up with them. World PvP? Well this has always been present to some degree in a number of MMO's.
So really, the only thing "Unique" about DF, is the fact that it's bringing back FFA PvP loot and the fact that it will play more like an FPS with skills as opposed to levels....... hardly anything to write home about (especially considering that "The Agency" and "DC Universe" Will also have a very "Twitchy" action based game play similar to this)
Not to mention that the only thing that seemed very prominent in the video was GANK GANK GANK! Again... BOOOOORING! Sorry, but I want something more out of my game than simply PvP all day. Some of us have actual lives outside the game that we have to take care of. But whatever.
At least I'll be happy knowing that, if this game DOES come out, it will keep all the gankers and griefers away from the other games so they can show their armor and how big their E-peens are. Yawn! Gankers are so pathetically annoying that they actually think people are taking them seriously.
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention that, just as with many other posters here, I agree that, showing what looks like a video made with Machinima does not give it much credibility either. Where was the player UI? Nowhere to be seen. Sorry, but the whole "100% player footage" at the beginning was also kind of a turn off, it was like an act of desperation by adventurine trying to capture fans again by dangling another carrot on a stick. Remember that the people who brought you "Dark and Light" used very similar tactics as Adventurine when it came to bringing up videos of their "progress" and look how that game turned out. Sorry Fanbois, sorry Adventurine, I ain't falling for it. Not that it matters anyway sincethe game doesn't seem all that interesting in the first place.
Again... BOOOOORING! Sorry, but I want something more out of my game than simply PvP all day. Some of us have actual lives outside the game that we have to take care of. But whatever.
Thern play somthing else its not problem. The game is not even out yet all we have seen is a sub par video. lets wait and see, you never know it might be great or it might not. So meany other games to play.
Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING! Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's: Boats? (Vanguard and POTBS) Housing? (EQ2, Vanguard, DAOC etc.) Mounts? (a number of other MMO's already have them, but if you want specifically Mounted Battle as in the video, I believe AoC was supposed to do this and I know WoW will be doing this as well as WAR, if this is incorrect, please let me know) Siegable fortresses? WAR and WoW are also coming up with them. World PvP? Well this has always been present to some degree in a number of MMO's. So really, the only thing "Unique" about DF, is the fact that it's bringing back FFA PvP loot and the fact that it will play more like an FPS with skills as opposed to levels....... hardly anything to write home about (especially considering that "The Agency" and "DC Universe" Will also have a very "Twitchy" action based game play similar to this) Not to mention that the only thing that seemed very prominent in the video was GANK GANK GANK! Again... BOOOOORING! Sorry, but I want something more out of my game than simply PvP all day. Some of us have actual lives outside the game that we have to take care of. But whatever. At least I'll be happy knowing that, if this game DOES come out, it will keep all the gankers and griefers away from the other games so they can show their armor and how big their E-peens are. Yawn! Gankers are so pathetically annoying that they actually think people are taking them seriously.
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention that, just as with many other posters here, I agree that, showing what looks like a video made with Machinima does not give it much credibility either. Where was the player UI? Nowhere to be seen. Sorry, but the whole "100% player footage" at the beginning was also kind of a turn off, it was like an act of desperation by adventurine trying to capture fans again by dangling another carrot on a stick. Remember that the people who brought you "Dark and Light" used very similar tactics as Adventurine when it came to bringing up videos of their "progress" and look how that game turned out. Sorry Fanbois, sorry Adventurine, I ain't falling for it. Not that it matters anyway sincethe game doesn't seem all that interesting in the first place.
Ok? So when did we have naval combat in a MMO before?? And its ok for gankers and griefers to populate WoW, to gank low levels characters frely as they want..without anyone to stop them. Thats ok?
But in a MMO were you can defend yourselfe from day one, when you risk loosing everything you own if you attack someone.....thats wrong??
Ill just say id really like to see more at this time, i know that its still early and theres much to see so before i go off sounding like im flaming the game i just say id like to see some more over time til release what this game will truly be.
If i were to go off from the current videos and such right now and aside from last i heard of not being able to distribute in america yet, Id say ppl keep waiting cos this game isnt it yet. Honestly id have to say that the videos arent really that impressive from any real angle just shows their potential of what they are trying to accomplish. I will applaud them for this atleast . For me im not all about graphics but that piece of candy im looking has to look enticing for me to open and indulge on my sweet tooth i didnt see any real solid animations and as someone said just a bunch of weak looking PVP. These animations are extremely weak and old school, the spell casting didnt make me feel what they were trying to accomplish im sure. Not flaming just my opinion.
Good Points is that they are showing some innovation and they are showing someone somwhere that they are not Vaporware and really do have something. Ive never been a fanboi or anything of this game but i have been following it since i was 23 [31 now] so it was nice to FINALLY see something more and they are trying for something different. To end this i just say lets hope this isnt the extent of this game graphically or gameplay wise cos if it is then yes this game will fail coming out the box.
"Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die."
Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING! Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's: Boats? (Vanguard and POTBS) Housing? (EQ2, Vanguard, DAOC etc.) Mounts? (a number of other MMO's already have them, but if you want specifically Mounted Battle as in the video, I believe AoC was supposed to do this and I know WoW will be doing this as well as WAR, if this is incorrect, please let me know) Siegable fortresses? WAR and WoW are also coming up with them. World PvP? Well this has always been present to some degree in a number of MMO's. So really, the only thing "Unique" about DF, is the fact that it's bringing back FFA PvP loot and the fact that it will play more like an FPS with skills as opposed to levels....... hardly anything to write home about (especially considering that "The Agency" and "DC Universe" Will also have a very "Twitchy" action based game play similar to this) Not to mention that the only thing that seemed very prominent in the video was GANK GANK GANK! Again... BOOOOORING! Sorry, but I want something more out of my game than simply PvP all day. Some of us have actual lives outside the game that we have to take care of. But whatever.
Wait, so the only things unique about this game are the:
1. Loot system
2. Ground combat system (no it isn't twitchy, it's TWITCH, and even "twitchy" hasn't been done yet has it?),
3. Naval combat system (naval combat is not just "ships")
4. Mounted combat system (aoc didn't actually have it, and you're saying that war and wow WILL have it? you mean it isn't new because somewhere in the distant FUTURE war and wow WILL have it? you realize that that means that IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET? )
5. Fortress sieges (which, yet again, war and wow WILL have)
and
6. Open world pvp (not instanced, not limited to one corner of the world, open world pvp which ALSO HASN'T BEEN DONE YET)
You're ABSOLUTELY right, there are only 6 ways that Darkfall will be totally revolutionary.
Oh, wait, you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree. Oh, wait, you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world. Oh, wait, the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer and the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video. OH WAIT, the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move. OH WAIT you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world. OH WAIT the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. OH WAIT go read the feature list for another 20 OH WAITS and quit bitching about something you have no idea about.
the hell with you, what could be wrong about an fps based combat mmorpg with fleet fight, city building, no levels skill system (yay eve online) and full looting and crafting systems.
you must be a tool if you can't see fun staring right in your face.
it's like medevil eve-online! huzzah!
and it might actully stop being vaporware!
get this shit on the front page.
*Cough* AoC2 *Cough*
Wenn nichts mehr geht Werd' ich ein engel sein - Für dich allein Und dir in jeder dunklen nacht erschein' Und dann fliegen wir weit weg von hier Wir werden uns nie mehr verlier'n
While I understand this video is meant to generate hype I think we are all beyond that now. They need to release a gameplay video, you know showing actual people playing the game. Even a mini fight between co workers would prove much more than this video.
Uhhh... Yeah... Thats EXACTLY what that video is. Real time gameplay... With *real* people no less.
Personally I won't miss the nay-sayers in this game one bit. WoW can keep their masses, as thats exactly where they belong. Me and mine will find our way to the battle field.
Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING! Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's: Boats? (Vanguard and POTBS) Housing? (EQ2, Vanguard, DAOC etc.) Mounts? (a number of other MMO's already have them, but if you want specifically Mounted Battle as in the video, I believe AoC was supposed to do this and I know WoW will be doing this as well as WAR, if this is incorrect, please let me know) Siegable fortresses? WAR and WoW are also coming up with them. World PvP? Well this has always been present to some degree in a number of MMO's. So really, the only thing "Unique" about DF, is the fact that it's bringing back FFA PvP loot and the fact that it will play more like an FPS with skills as opposed to levels....... hardly anything to write home about (especially considering that "The Agency" and "DC Universe" Will also have a very "Twitchy" action based game play similar to this) Not to mention that the only thing that seemed very prominent in the video was GANK GANK GANK! Again... BOOOOORING! Sorry, but I want something more out of my game than simply PvP all day. Some of us have actual lives outside the game that we have to take care of. But whatever.
Wait, so the only things unique about this game are the:
1. Loot system
2. Ground combat system (no it isn't twitchy, it's TWITCH, and even "twitchy" hasn't been done yet has it?),
3. Naval combat system (naval combat is not just "ships")
4. Mounted combat system (aoc didn't actually have it, and you're saying that war and wow WILL have it? you mean it isn't new because somewhere in the distant FUTURE war and wow WILL have it? you realize that that means that IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET? )
5. Fortress sieges (which, yet again, war and wow WILL have)
and
6. Open world pvp (not instanced, not limited to one corner of the world, open world pvp which ALSO HASN'T BEEN DONE YET)
You're ABSOLUTELY right, there are only 6 ways that Darkfall will be totally revolutionary.
Oh, wait, you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree. Oh, wait, you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world. Oh, wait, the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer and the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video. OH WAIT, the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move. OH WAIT you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world. OH WAIT the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. OH WAIT go read the feature list for another 20 OH WAITS and quit bitching about something you have no idea about.
See my above post.
Wenn nichts mehr geht Werd' ich ein engel sein - Für dich allein Und dir in jeder dunklen nacht erschein' Und dann fliegen wir weit weg von hier Wir werden uns nie mehr verlier'n
Well, since you are personally the judge of all things good or bad, I'll take that into consideration...
lolz pwnd
Yeah .. for someone that wants nothing but PVE all day .. and pretty this and a new pc every month .. and the only thing to do is wait for the next content patch .. well ya prolly DF isnt for you.
HOWEVER .. there are some who have followed this for years.
Thing is people like myself want above all PVP and PVP content. A good PVP engine. If that means chunky movement .. or dated graphics that doestn mean 1 thing to me.
At the end of the day MMOs are hte same. You grind .. killing mobs .. to get better .. to what .. KILL MORE MOBS cause they all get better as you do.
With PVP and a PVP oriented game you get better because you never know who or what you will be up against tomorrow. So its worth the grind today
the hell with you, what could be wrong about an fps based combat mmorpg with fleet fight, city building, no levels skill system (yay eve online) and full looting and crafting systems.
you must be a tool if you can't see fun staring right in your face.
it's like medevil eve-online! huzzah!
and it might actully stop being vaporware!
get this shit on the front page.
*Cough* AoC2 *Cough*
Poor fella dun been wronged and can't let it go.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
EQ1 Graphics Staged machinima style excitement. People are so easily fooled. When I see real people playing, and hear real peoples opinions, then vaporware will not come to mind here.
Failtown
Population: You
Everquest 1 Screenshot (this was taken from a post on the DF portion of the site)
And Darkfall - A screenshot that isnt on super high setting and is actually one of their less impressive shots....certainly one of their more boring landscapes...but it still blows eq1 out of the water.
Sorry troll but you cant stop this game from being followed and comming out with a good following. Don't play it, thats fine. But dont make obviously incorrect statments like it is anywhere near eq1 jsut because others are saying it and you want to be cool or just feel like the big boy.
AWSOME that it is on the front page. This game is going to turn some heads if they can release on stable servers and really feature complete. I think some people are scarred
And where are all those people who were petitioning to have it removed from the website? Maybe busy signing up for DF beta....
Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING! Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's: Boats? (Vanguard and POTBS) Housing? (EQ2, Vanguard, DAOC etc.) Mounts? (a number of other MMO's already have them, but if you want specifically Mounted Battle as in the video, I believe AoC was supposed to do this and I know WoW will be doing this as well as WAR, if this is incorrect, please let me know) Siegable fortresses? WAR and WoW are also coming up with them. World PvP? Well this has always been present to some degree in a number of MMO's. So really, the only thing "Unique" about DF, is the fact that it's bringing back FFA PvP loot and the fact that it will play more like an FPS with skills as opposed to levels....... hardly anything to write home about (especially considering that "The Agency" and "DC Universe" Will also have a very "Twitchy" action based game play similar to this) Not to mention that the only thing that seemed very prominent in the video was GANK GANK GANK! Again... BOOOOORING! Sorry, but I want something more out of my game than simply PvP all day. Some of us have actual lives outside the game that we have to take care of. But whatever.
Wait, so the only things unique about this game are the:
1. Loot system
2. Ground combat system (no it isn't twitchy, it's TWITCH, and even "twitchy" hasn't been done yet has it?),
3. Naval combat system (naval combat is not just "ships")
4. Mounted combat system (aoc didn't actually have it, and you're saying that war and wow WILL have it? you mean it isn't new because somewhere in the distant FUTURE war and wow WILL have it? you realize that that means that IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET? )
5. Fortress sieges (which, yet again, war and wow WILL have)
and
6. Open world pvp (not instanced, not limited to one corner of the world, open world pvp which ALSO HASN'T BEEN DONE YET)
You're ABSOLUTELY right, there are only 6 ways that Darkfall will be totally revolutionary.
Oh, wait, you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree. Oh, wait, you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world. Oh, wait, the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer and the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video. OH WAIT, the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move. OH WAIT you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world. OH WAIT the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. OH WAIT go read the feature list for another 20 OH WAITS and quit bitching about something you have no idea about.
OH WAIT!!!!
No one knows if all these features will be in the game at release!
OH WAIT!!!
No one knows if they will be working IF they are in.
OH WAIT!!!!
All we've seen so far is a pretty video showing some fun PVP and SNIPPETS of a FEW of the other promised features. Don't scream so loud how revolutionary DF will be until the game is actually here with everything the Developers promised.
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Sure the graphics are not top notch, but hell read through the feature list and watch wahts going on in the video and its awesome.
I still have doubts; the video claims that its out in 2008, and for the third time they are accepting beta applications.
Those worried about population just look at the DF forums; currently 650 people online and going crazy about it. A lot of people are waiting for an MMO that doesnt revolve around the same old questing and item rewards.
Give us territory control, empire building and massive battles and its going to be huge.
I just hope it gets released.
Gameplay looks absolutely awesome, who cares if the graphics are a bit dated. This is my most wanted for 2008/9.
I never really followed Darkfall much tbh, and this vid didnt change anything about that. It is kinda like "meh". First off as a very visual person I found the graphics are... well horrible tbh. Its that kind of graphics you'd expect in the DAoC era, and while I dont need AoC lushness to enjoy a game, I do need a certain level of sophisticated art style, and Darkfalls falls quite flat on its nose in this department.
Another not was, while too in AoC violence didnt disturb me and I am looking out for WAR, the constant war in the Darkfall trailer annoyed and almost disturbed me for some reason. It felt like the entire game was revolving around slaughter and nothing else, and while I dunno if that is the case, it kinda presented the game poorly for me. Not only was it like a big, bad Zergfest, it also was badly animated and felt a bit too much focussed on violence. It may sound weird from someone being hyped into WAR, but Warhammer always has that element of comic relief, the various elements make the war more feel like a football game counting points. I cant 100% point my finger at it, but there was a level of grimness I found ugly, like a nightmare or hell I would not want to live in.
Finally, on a personal note, I felt very sorry for the developer. It is clear a lot of work and personal dedication went into this game, and I have great respect towards that, in our days when more and more games are soulless standard ware. I fear, no matter how many things they add, like Naval battle, cities and whatsoever, personally I feel this game has little or no chance to be anything but a very tiny niche game, always on the brink of falling into oblivion, and its always disheartning to see great dedication not being rewarded. I just very strongly feel that the days of such sandbox games is gone like the era of dinosaurs.
I'm going to say what many others said in this thread. Screw Graphics!!!! I mean graphics are good but in the end its the game that matters is it not? Theres many games I love that have shitty graphics. take pong for instance. You can get stoned and play that with your friends for hours. Mario, sonic and metroid, all classics. The graphics aren't what really matter. Age of Conan is a prime example of that. Vanguard is another.
Sorry, but beauty is only skin deep.
On that note if this game delivers what it promises. I have a feeling I will be playing this for awhile,
EVE is proof enough that a market for PVP sandboxes exists, and it's obvious that many people are aching for a high fantasy themed PVP sandbox too, and Darkfall is that game.
There's no doubt that Darkfall is going to be too hardcore for some, and that it will always be niche next to mass-appeal generic themepark (grind) games like WOW, AoC, WAR. If Darkfall can achieve even 100K+ subscribers it will have been a huge success.
But who knows? Many WOW/AoC/War players who deep down want *more* from a MMO, who want their actions in the world to actually *matter* and who crave a deep and complex world instead of pointless grind after grind might try Darkfall and love it.
Personally i think it's going to be epic - a fantasy-based MMO like EVE on steroids. There's so much stuff to do -- build cities/houses/props, territorial conquest, REAL world PVP, mounted combat and cavalry, naval combat and high seas piracy, hardcore PVEer/raider, explorer... the possibilities are only limited by imagination.
Thank you for posting this.
There isn't another game with these kinds of features on the Market. Darkfall is although a niche game going to be highly enjoyable for many people.
While I understand this video is meant to generate hype I think we are all beyond that now. They need to release a gameplay video, you know showing actual people playing the game. Even a mini fight between co workers would prove much more than this video.
"Personally i think it's going to be epic - a fantasy-based MMO like EVE on steroids. There's so much stuff to do -- build cities/houses/props, territorial conquest, REAL world PVP, mounted combat and cavalry, naval combat and high seas piracy, hardcore PVEer/raider, explorer... the possibilities are only limited by imagination."
Ah...let's wait to see what the game provides when released, just because the features mentioned are on the website does not mean they will be implemented anytime soon in the game. It usually takes years to get a feature set like that working correctly. I would rather they have what is in game working then a bunch of features that are there that don't work.
With the small staff they have, some features are going to be way down the road.
see this is where opinion matters alot because to me these graphics look like they are from 2010, where as war and wow look to me like they are from 1995, and aoc just feels like a cgi with no gameplay circa any year. Anyways, to each his own, and to yours alot less.
I agree that graphics are subjective and that gameplay should be priority, but 2010? Come on now...
Figures look a bit stiff...overall not too bad ...especially given the time this thing started development...game looks fun as hell though. I'll try it.
Have you even watched the video? All the gameplay is demonstrated, using 100% footage from player viewpoint. The majority of the game is first person, and a tight 3rd person view when a melee is drawn.
I love to read about people claiming they didnt see ny "quests" in that video. How they know they didnt??
Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING!
Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's: Boats? (Vanguard and POTBS) Housing? (EQ2, Vanguard, DAOC etc.) Mounts? (a number of other MMO's already have them, but if you want specifically Mounted Battle as in the video, I believe AoC was supposed to do this and I know WoW will be doing this as well as WAR, if this is incorrect, please let me know) Siegable fortresses? WAR and WoW are also coming up with them. World PvP? Well this has always been present to some degree in a number of MMO's.
So really, the only thing "Unique" about DF, is the fact that it's bringing back FFA PvP loot and the fact that it will play more like an FPS with skills as opposed to levels....... hardly anything to write home about (especially considering that "The Agency" and "DC Universe" Will also have a very "Twitchy" action based game play similar to this)
Not to mention that the only thing that seemed very prominent in the video was GANK GANK GANK! Again... BOOOOORING! Sorry, but I want something more out of my game than simply PvP all day. Some of us have actual lives outside the game that we have to take care of. But whatever.
At least I'll be happy knowing that, if this game DOES come out, it will keep all the gankers and griefers away from the other games so they can show their armor and how big their E-peens are. Yawn! Gankers are so pathetically annoying that they actually think people are taking them seriously.
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention that, just as with many other posters here, I agree that, showing what looks like a video made with Machinima does not give it much credibility either. Where was the player UI? Nowhere to be seen. Sorry, but the whole "100% player footage" at the beginning was also kind of a turn off, it was like an act of desperation by adventurine trying to capture fans again by dangling another carrot on a stick. Remember that the people who brought you "Dark and Light" used very similar tactics as Adventurine when it came to bringing up videos of their "progress" and look how that game turned out. Sorry Fanbois, sorry Adventurine, I ain't falling for it. Not that it matters anyway sincethe game doesn't seem all that interesting in the first place.
Thern play somthing else its not problem. The game is not even out yet all we have seen is a sub par video. lets wait and see, you never know it might be great or it might not. So meany other games to play.
Ok? So when did we have naval combat in a MMO before?? And its ok for gankers and griefers to populate WoW, to gank low levels characters frely as they want..without anyone to stop them. Thats ok?
But in a MMO were you can defend yourselfe from day one, when you risk loosing everything you own if you attack someone.....thats wrong??
How the hell do you mean??
Ill just say id really like to see more at this time, i know that its still early and theres much to see so before i go off sounding like im flaming the game i just say id like to see some more over time til release what this game will truly be.
If i were to go off from the current videos and such right now and aside from last i heard of not being able to distribute in america yet, Id say ppl keep waiting cos this game isnt it yet. Honestly id have to say that the videos arent really that impressive from any real angle just shows their potential of what they are trying to accomplish. I will applaud them for this atleast . For me im not all about graphics but that piece of candy im looking has to look enticing for me to open and indulge on my sweet tooth i didnt see any real solid animations and as someone said just a bunch of weak looking PVP. These animations are extremely weak and old school, the spell casting didnt make me feel what they were trying to accomplish im sure. Not flaming just my opinion.
Good Points is that they are showing some innovation and they are showing someone somwhere that they are not Vaporware and really do have something. Ive never been a fanboi or anything of this game but i have been following it since i was 23 [31 now] so it was nice to FINALLY see something more and they are trying for something different. To end this i just say lets hope this isnt the extent of this game graphically or gameplay wise cos if it is then yes this game will fail coming out the box.
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Wait, so the only things unique about this game are the:
1. Loot system
2. Ground combat system (no it isn't twitchy, it's TWITCH, and even "twitchy" hasn't been done yet has it?),
3. Naval combat system (naval combat is not just "ships")
4. Mounted combat system (aoc didn't actually have it, and you're saying that war and wow WILL have it? you mean it isn't new because somewhere in the distant FUTURE war and wow WILL have it? you realize that that means that IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET? )
5. Fortress sieges (which, yet again, war and wow WILL have)
and
6. Open world pvp (not instanced, not limited to one corner of the world, open world pvp which ALSO HASN'T BEEN DONE YET)
You're ABSOLUTELY right, there are only 6 ways that Darkfall will be totally revolutionary.
Oh, wait, you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree. Oh, wait, you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world. Oh, wait, the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer and the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video. OH WAIT, the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move. OH WAIT you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world. OH WAIT the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. OH WAIT go read the feature list for another 20 OH WAITS and quit bitching about something you have no idea about.
the hell with you, what could be wrong about an fps based combat mmorpg with fleet fight, city building, no levels skill system (yay eve online) and full looting and crafting systems.
you must be a tool if you can't see fun staring right in your face.
it's like medevil eve-online! huzzah!
and it might actully stop being vaporware!
get this shit on the front page.
*Cough* AoC2 *Cough*
Wenn nichts mehr geht
Werd' ich ein engel sein - Für dich allein
Und dir in jeder dunklen nacht erschein'
Und dann fliegen wir weit weg von hier
Wir werden uns nie mehr verlier'n
Uhhh... Yeah... Thats EXACTLY what that video is. Real time gameplay... With *real* people no less.
Personally I won't miss the nay-sayers in this game one bit. WoW can keep their masses, as thats exactly where they belong. Me and mine will find our way to the battle field.
Darkfall beta here I come!
-Kin
Wait, so the only things unique about this game are the:
1. Loot system
2. Ground combat system (no it isn't twitchy, it's TWITCH, and even "twitchy" hasn't been done yet has it?),
3. Naval combat system (naval combat is not just "ships")
4. Mounted combat system (aoc didn't actually have it, and you're saying that war and wow WILL have it? you mean it isn't new because somewhere in the distant FUTURE war and wow WILL have it? you realize that that means that IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET? )
5. Fortress sieges (which, yet again, war and wow WILL have)
and
6. Open world pvp (not instanced, not limited to one corner of the world, open world pvp which ALSO HASN'T BEEN DONE YET)
You're ABSOLUTELY right, there are only 6 ways that Darkfall will be totally revolutionary.
Oh, wait, you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree. Oh, wait, you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world. Oh, wait, the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer and the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video. OH WAIT, the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move. OH WAIT you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world. OH WAIT the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. OH WAIT go read the feature list for another 20 OH WAITS and quit bitching about something you have no idea about.
See my above post.
Wenn nichts mehr geht
Werd' ich ein engel sein - Für dich allein
Und dir in jeder dunklen nacht erschein'
Und dann fliegen wir weit weg von hier
Wir werden uns nie mehr verlier'n
Well, since you are personally the judge of all things good or bad, I'll take that into consideration...
lolz pwnd
Yeah .. for someone that wants nothing but PVE all day .. and pretty this and a new pc every month .. and the only thing to do is wait for the next content patch .. well ya prolly DF isnt for you.
HOWEVER .. there are some who have followed this for years.
Thing is people like myself want above all PVP and PVP content. A good PVP engine. If that means chunky movement .. or dated graphics that doestn mean 1 thing to me.
At the end of the day MMOs are hte same. You grind .. killing mobs .. to get better .. to what .. KILL MORE MOBS cause they all get better as you do.
With PVP and a PVP oriented game you get better because you never know who or what you will be up against tomorrow. So its worth the grind today
My 2 cents.
the hell with you, what could be wrong about an fps based combat mmorpg with fleet fight, city building, no levels skill system (yay eve online) and full looting and crafting systems.
you must be a tool if you can't see fun staring right in your face.
it's like medevil eve-online! huzzah!
and it might actully stop being vaporware!
get this shit on the front page.
*Cough* AoC2 *Cough*
Poor fella dun been wronged and can't let it go.
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Everquest 1 Screenshot (this was taken from a post on the DF portion of the site)
And Darkfall - A screenshot that isnt on super high setting and is actually one of their less impressive shots....certainly one of their more boring landscapes...but it still blows eq1 out of the water.
Sorry troll but you cant stop this game from being followed and comming out with a good following. Don't play it, thats fine. But dont make obviously incorrect statments like it is anywhere near eq1 jsut because others are saying it and you want to be cool or just feel like the big boy.
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Oh and my non-defensive post on this topic.
AWSOME that it is on the front page. This game is going to turn some heads if they can release on stable servers and really feature complete. I think some people are scarred
And where are all those people who were petitioning to have it removed from the website? Maybe busy signing up for DF beta....
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Wait, so the only things unique about this game are the:
1. Loot system
2. Ground combat system (no it isn't twitchy, it's TWITCH, and even "twitchy" hasn't been done yet has it?),
3. Naval combat system (naval combat is not just "ships")
4. Mounted combat system (aoc didn't actually have it, and you're saying that war and wow WILL have it? you mean it isn't new because somewhere in the distant FUTURE war and wow WILL have it? you realize that that means that IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET? )
5. Fortress sieges (which, yet again, war and wow WILL have)
and
6. Open world pvp (not instanced, not limited to one corner of the world, open world pvp which ALSO HASN'T BEEN DONE YET)
You're ABSOLUTELY right, there are only 6 ways that Darkfall will be totally revolutionary.
Oh, wait, you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree. Oh, wait, you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world. Oh, wait, the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer and the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video. OH WAIT, the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move. OH WAIT you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world. OH WAIT the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. OH WAIT go read the feature list for another 20 OH WAITS and quit bitching about something you have no idea about.
OH WAIT!!!!
No one knows if all these features will be in the game at release!
OH WAIT!!!
No one knows if they will be working IF they are in.
OH WAIT!!!!
All we've seen so far is a pretty video showing some fun PVP and SNIPPETS of a FEW of the other promised features. Don't scream so loud how revolutionary DF will be until the game is actually here with everything the Developers promised.
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