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And what are subscriber numbers for DAoC like now? Anything new in the pipeline besides the Origins servers, which essentially rollback the game content to square one? A lot of how well Warhammer is received is going to depend on how quickly the devs are able to finish the content that should have been in at launch. Right now, I'm seeing a lot of promises, but little substance. The first month will be a telling one.
While your question is valid I must say that because few people play UO now, that doesnt mean that sandboxes are bad.
It's the same logic here.
DAoC has few population for a lot of reasons and many arent releated directly to RvR. For example, not an easy learnign curve (not as bad as EvE ofc); you have to lvl to 50 alone because most people are in NF (just some at thid and molv but real few and the low lvl PvE zones are empty); non existant advertisement; PvE is required before you can compete in RvR (this is, imho, the most important reason why DAoC is empty now... ToA, crafting and all the other PvE xpacs killed the RvR focus that DAoC had at first).
Time kill MMOs too unless you are able to keep attracting new players (as WoW does)... but as time pass, it gets harder and harder to keep the new accounts bigger than the cancels.
When keep adding PvE content to an RvR game... making it almost mandatory to do it in order to keep being competitive in RvR... well... no, most RvR people doesnt like to raid for 16 hours to just get ML3.
I think (and hope) Mythic learnt from their past mistakes. At least now we can RvR from level 1!!! And you dont have to go PvEing just to be competitive in RvR. Neither you need to go around spellcrafting!!!
As you mentioned Origins is a go back to what DAoC was at first... well... they are just trying becuase it wont be the same... anyway, thats what attract so many of the actual DAoC players to it.
We just want to RvR. We dont want to have to lvl 50 to reach end game, and then get to ML10, and then get to CL10, and then get artis, and then craft a template.
PvE is good in any MMO but the focus of WAR should stay in RvR and Mythic should not refocus it to PvE as they did with DAoC.
Think thats the point really, Ive spent the past 3.5 years in wow doing repetitive stuff. It is wearing very thin right now, I log on do a series of daily quests, join a few bg's to earn points to buy welfare epics.
(This on my rest days, being a shift worker).
Evenings, I sometimes sign up to raid black temple/mount hyjal on my priest. (Both raid dungeons suck and lack any epic nature the game had before).
The point is even with dull crap that wow has to offer its kept my interest over 3 and a half years.
I'm sure I wont burn out WAR's content in less than a month :P
When was the last time ANY mmorpg reached this achievement? The reason for most why the rvr will never get old is because it is constantly changing. This is the beauty of playing against other people rather then an AI.
EvE.
Could i land on planets?
no i cant thus no not eve. Cause i wanted to do that but couldnt.
Planets and landing/building things there is coming though... 2009/2010 apparenlty
and it sounds yummy
When was the last time ANY mmorpg reached this achievement? The reason for most why the rvr will never get old is because it is constantly changing. This is the beauty of playing against other people rather then an AI.
SWG?
comparing cs to warhammer is disgrace.. its like saying i hate warhammer.. god damn cs? let it die.. that game did disapear from world 2 years ago.. now we know where all wow kidies will go.. warhammer
Mark Jacobs tends to disagree with the op's setiment. They don't make an epic game like Warhammer and have no longevity, he has tons of stuff planned for the future of Warhammer and they above all things, want the game to be FUN. Go play something else perhaps?
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'Cry Havoc, and Let Loose the Dogs of WARRRRR!!!'
When was the last time ANY mmorpg reached this achievement? The reason for most why the rvr will never get old is because it is constantly changing. This is the beauty of playing against other people rather then an AI.
EvE.
Could i land on planets?
no i cant thus no not eve. Cause i wanted to do that but couldnt.
Planets and landing/building things there is coming though... 2009/2010 apparenlty
and it sounds yummy
Nice.
Anyway, EvE is repetitive too (anyone that played it for long time knows it). I like sandoxes too so I tried it some time ago. Amazing game, huge and deadly learning curve but after some months you feel like at home and enjoy it like a maniac, if you really like that kind of MMOs.
Its a great FFA PvP, with safe zones, complex economy and some other nice stuff.
In the end, this is not "which game is best". It's just in where each of us have fun. WAR is a RvR theme park game. EvE is more FFA PvP sandbox game. I like both. I will be playing WAR because I found myself having great fun in it.
Each of us should decide what to play... again I repeat (imo) this is not a competition on which game is best.
Btw, I am not really saying this to the people I quoted... I just quoted them because it was the last person to post and I wanted to say my opinion on the matter.
Obviously, the OP thinks he wont have fun in WAR so I think he should not play WAR. That doesn't mean he is right, of course. Neither means other people wont have a great time at WAR for years.
No it won't. If you are so sure though then wait a month and you will find out.
I think this thread has met the limit for people who disagree with the OP
See you guys tomorrow ont he OP's next thread stating the exact same uninformed opinion.
OMG LMAO
Thanks to Unicorns_Pwn (cool forum nickname, btw hehe) I checked OP's history.
He actually created a thread asking if the game was just 3 BGs. People explained to him that it wasnt and anyway he keeps repeating it (which is ok but now I see it's not a person asking to know but a person using a question to state his opinion LOL).
He is just a troll... sorry I didnt notice it before and I posted soooo much in the thread.
This is my last post in this thread and I will not answer anything else to the OP in this thread or any other... no point in discussing anything with a troll.
I believe anyone can repeat a zillion times his/her same opinion in all the threads that person wants to answer as long as it's between the subject of the thread. And, of course, any person can create a thread explain his/her opinion too. But 2 threads, in 2 days, saying mostly the same... well... I think that is trolling. There is no necessity for the same person to keep creating threads saying "the game is boring" or "the game is the best of the universe". With one is really enough, imho.
To the OP... because you repeat the game is just 3 BGs... well... it wont become real... it's incorrect and wont change because you repeat it.
Try it... repeat "gravity doesnt exist" several times and then let yourself fall.
I wonder why some people keep posting non-sense things without reading a single webpage or a playing a single decent MMO before.
No, the game doesn't have only 3 battlegrounds. No, RvR isn't boring and slow. No, your opinion doesn't matter because you haven't played the game, you haven't read about the game and because you're a MMO newbie who probably never played any decent game.
And yes, if I could I would ban you from this forum.
Ultima Online 98~04
Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
Final Fantasy XI 04~06
Guild Wars 05~08
World of Warcraft 04~05
Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG
*Claps!*
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'Cry Havoc, and Let Loose the Dogs of WARRRRR!!!'
If you banned him from the forums you would probably not last long around here. Even the ignorant morons who post here have a value to the site seeing as it is plastered with ads. I understand bills have to be paid but at what point do you value the real community more than the money?
* I know I'm completely off topic, but why not actually add at least something of substance to this 2nd failed thread attempt by the OP.
If you banned him from the forums you would probably not last long around here. Even the ignorant morons who post here have a value to the site seeing as it is plastered with ads. I understand bills have to be paid but at what point do you value the real community more than the money?
* I know I'm completely off topic, but why not actually add at least something of substance to this 2nd failed thread attempt by the OP.
Ignorant morons are one thing. But ignorant morons who post the same exact thing twice, even after receiveing proper explanations.. is another.
Ultima Online 98~04
Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
Final Fantasy XI 04~06
Guild Wars 05~08
World of Warcraft 04~05
Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG
This is exactly the way I see it, and why I'm almost positive the game won't dull for me for a long while. I still play old FPS games, the same maps that I've played thousands of different times because of the people, and most of those are with a maximum of 32 players per team. With thousands of people playing on my WAR server and with many different maps, I can't possibly see how I'll be bored in less than a month. Then they will be adding new content, expasions, etc..
I think I'll be playing WAR for years.
Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV
Yep, you got it dude. Spot on. Totally. Thats WAR alright. Tiny little boring game. Yep. Thats the one.
You'd be better off sticking to WoW, or maybe LoTRO probably. Much more fun.
Right, Now thats sorted, I'm off back to carry on my open beta download and dig out my Witch Hunter hat...
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
If you banned him from the forums you would probably not last long around here. Even the ignorant morons who post here have a value to the site seeing as it is plastered with ads. I understand bills have to be paid but at what point do you value the real community more than the money?
* I know I'm completely off topic, but why not actually add at least something of substance to this 2nd failed thread attempt by the OP.
Ignorant morons are one thing. But ignorant morons who post the same exact thing twice, even after receiveing proper explanations.. is another.
Well, you aren't in the same mindset as those running this site. Here is my basically example to illustrate how things work around here:
[retarded forum member #4355654] WAR IS STUPID ONLY 3 PLACES TO FIGHT. GOTTA GO MOMMY MADE FISH STICKS
[MMORPG Staff] Wow, that has to be the most fucking usesless and ignorant statement we've seen on the site in the last 5 minutes. Good thing we get paid the same for the morons as we do for the useful members.
Seriously, If i could find ways to get paid off of others ignorance I think I would too, as it's apparently in abundance around here.
Haha, looks like someone wasn't very good at FPS-style games.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
You should read more if you only managed to see 3 battle grounds. What is to stop people from playing the same ones? I don't know..ask the people in WoW. There is plenty to do. I suggest you read a little more.
1. 30 + Scenarios (translation: over 30 WoW-type battleground)
2. Each zone has fully realized RvR content (translation: open world PvP with objectives and keeps/forts to conquer and control)
3. Two massive capital cities to lay siege to (translation: two massive capital cities to lay siege to)
4. Hundreds of Public Quests (translation: hundreds of open world group-oriented mini-world encounters)
5. 30+ zones full of PvE and PvP content (translation: 30+ zones full of PvE and PvP content)
and so forth...
How you can "read" information like this and say that there are "just 3 battlegrounds with some PvE stuff in the lower zones" is totally beyond my ability to explain.
you sir have some bad information
LOL, no one has been able to say that its not just 3 big battles and thats it.
At end game, all you will do is fight over the same area over and over and over and over again.
It's not. Read more. I'm not going to explain it all to you.