You just have to shake your head a those that turn a blind eye to past history. Every one of these MMO's have advertised a lot of features that either never do make it into the game or do so quite a bit later. Note, AoC's siege combat, it is in the game, but does not work and no eta when it will. DAoC had mounts in some of the pre-release videos, took then three years to get it in game.
Fact, the Adventurine staff is quite small, especially when compared with some of these big budget developers, hence the chances that all those wonderful features listed on their site will be in the game and work are slim and nil.
How about we focus on getting a working game out and let the fancy stuff come later like mounted combat or ship combat. If they include it at release, you can guarentee it will be broken in some manner or emminently exploitable.
Until we actually see this game get released, it really has no features at all. Videos are not proof of anything at all, with the technology today you can pretty much construct a video doing practically anything.
EQ1 Graphics Staged machinima style excitement. People are so easily fooled. When I see real people playing, and hear real peoples opinions, then vaporware will not come to mind here.
The graphics look good to me and I enjoyed EQ graphics when I played it back in the day so I don't see why I wouldn't like them now. Gameplay is always more important and Darkfall will be a seamless world without any instancing, partly because they aren't focusing on the highest graphical settings. A lot of people should be able to run Darkfall on older machines and still get good FPS. Emphasis on gameplay.
Being an old EQ1 vet I was thinking the same thing so I logged back into EQ1 after playing EQ2 for quite a while, but boy was I wrong. After about 5 minutes I said f*** this. The graphics were horrible. I was repulsed by them so much that I had to logoff. I will never go back to any graphics that resemble that. I know graphics aren't everything, but for me they play a major part.
No one knows if all these features will be in the game at release!
OH WAIT!!!
No one knows if they will be working IF they are in.
OH WAIT!!!!
All we've seen so far is a pretty video showing some fun PVP and SNIPPETS of a FEW of the other promised features. Don't scream so loud how revolutionary DF will be until the game is actually here with everything the Developers promised.
Pffft. What's great is none of the haters have kept up with the game. Everyone assumes "hey I haven't read it so it can't be!"
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
Meanwhile every feature I talked about in my post... is in the vid. Every one of them.
You've spent far too long crying about how the game can't be real, now the fail is yours to own.
No one knows if all these features will be in the game at release!
OH WAIT!!!
No one knows if they will be working IF they are in.
OH WAIT!!!!
All we've seen so far is a pretty video showing some fun PVP and SNIPPETS of a FEW of the other promised features. Don't scream so loud how revolutionary DF will be until the game is actually here with everything the Developers promised.
Pffft. What's great is none of the haters have kept up with the game. Everyone assumes "hey I haven't read it so it can't be!"
In fact, I am a) not a hater and b) saying "hey, I haven#t SEEN it working, so it MIGHT not be!" Learn the difference.
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
Proof for every feature in Darkfall? Please show me that. I would really like to see it.
Meanwhile every feature I talked about in my post... is in the vid. Every one of them.
You were talking about ALL features of the game in your post, by the end of it anyway. That#s what I was referring to.
You've spent far too long crying about how the game can't be real, now the fail is yours to own.
I am not crying about anything. I am urging a little caution instead of blindly believing the game will be the Second Coming.
Let#s see what the Beta brings, shall we? And the Free Play testing.
Great to see Darkfall's new video and beta get some front page love! They put a lot of time into that movie and into the game in general so I am glad to see it almost time for it to pay off. And I cant remember what forum it was in, but this kind of put that conspiracy theorist about this site getting payed off to not follow DF to rest.
I have seen this video multiple times, and in different quality settings, and not only has it blown the mind of many of its long time fans, but it has opened the eyes of many other mmo'ers and we have seen a flood of new people interested in DF.
Hopefully in beta we can see how stable their servers are and work on getting them ready for release and give this game the best chance to prove to the world that an indy developer ran by gamers making games for gamers can really flourish over the powerhouse companies that keep feeding us disapointment.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Let#s see what the Beta brings, shall we? And the Free Play testing.
Fair enough. I'll not flame you again. And yes, the OH WAITS were a bit much.
However, please keep in mind that I was responding to this poster:
[quote]Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING!
Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's[/quote]
You can see why I might have gone on a rant against him; it is one thing to claim that the release might not be what we hope it will be, yet quite another to say that the aim of the darkfall devs has already been accomplished in other mmo's - it simply hasn't, not even close. You responded against me and I assumed that you were in line with him.
Meanwhile, I'll go through this one at a time, even though you are right I cannot prove every feature in the game... only the ones I talked about directly in my post.
1. Loot system - you're right I can't confirm this through the vid, not that it matters - it's the loot system.
2. Ground combat system - both 3rd person combat (melee) and first person combat (range) are briefly shown in parts of the vid.
3. Naval combat system - shows naval combat, including a shot of cannon firing.
4. Mounted combat system - shows mounted combat thoroughly.
6. Open world pvp - the entire video is of open world pvp
you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree - video
you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world - video, esp. first half
the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer - not from video, heh, but legally ascertainable
the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video - watch the players vs. lizardmen fightscene in the video
here's where it gets tricky
the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move - I can't ascertain this from the vid
you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world - shows at least 4 different locations - again, I lose
the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. - shows a lot of areas, I feel sorry for WAR - again, I lose
So in the end I apologize for getting a bit edgy... however, I think that the video speaks for itself... the game and most of its features are here, and I for one am glad.
I like the graphics, I mean if they can release with these graphics and this gameplay, even with half the features, then this game will be the holy grail of mmorpg's.
Meanwhile, I am playing Ryzom, the long lost gem of mmorpg land.
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"Pffft. What's great is none of the haters have kept up with the game. Everyone assumes "hey I haven't read it so it can't be!"
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
Meanwhile every feature I talked about in my post... is in the vid. Every one of them.
You've spent far too long crying about how the game can't be real, now the fail is yours to own."
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it? Proof on a variety of levels huh, care to point to any of what you call proof, None of the rest of us have seen anything at all that backs up your claims. As to the video, easy to put things in a video and hide that they are not fully implemented. All the video proves is they have the concepts in game, you cannot tell how well anything is working.
At this point in time, no one has any idea the state of the game, except the developers as they have not shown it to anyone.
Feature complete, that is a real hoot, how come beta has for the third time been announced, again without a date?
Like I said before, when the game does come out, you will be looking at lots of features left out, that is a given. All I care about is a working game with a limited amount of bugs. They can add in the missing feature later.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Like I said before, when the game does come out, you will be looking at lots of features left out, that is a given.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
You can have the opinion, but by your own arguement, until you play it...it is not a FACT. Even if you really want it to be, its not sorry.
Just because other developers do it, doesn't mean this one will. And it doesnt mean they wont either. But you can't challenge someone else and use the support that they havent played yet so how do they know...and then justify your stance the same way, sorry no.
Personally I won't miss the nay-sayers in this game one bit. WoW can keep their masses, as thats exactly where they belong. Me and mine will find our way to the battle field.
Darkfall beta here I come!
Felt I needed to point this out one more time.
Also, when theres a list of features, it tends to be the features in the game. Not to mention there have been posts over the months assuring which features are IN the game.
If you aren't down with Darkfall thats fine, But don't get bitter cause its going to succeed and be a uber experience for all true PvP'ers.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Like I said before, when the game does come out, you will be looking at lots of features left out, that is a given.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
EQ1 Graphics Staged machinima style excitement. People are so easily fooled. When I see real people playing, and hear real peoples opinions, then vaporware will not come to mind here.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Like I said before, when the game does come out, you will be looking at lots of features left out, that is a given.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
i bet you the game is feature complete
By now I believe so, here's a word from Dev Journal #21 from back in January:
"Overall, we have a near complete implementation of the game, speaking of the technology and our feature list. A few things that are not implemented yet but in the works are some clan controls, the environment system, and some AI optimizations."
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Oh and my non-defensive post on this topic. AWSOME that it is on the front page. This game is going to turn some heads if they can release on stable servers and really feature complete. I think some people are scarred And where are all those people who were petitioning to have it removed from the website? Maybe busy signing up for DF beta....
lol I hear that.
When I saw darkfall on the main page of MMORPG.com I was like YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
considering how long they've been working on this , this video is pathetic.
95% of everything that is in this video has already been shown in shorter clips years ago. It's just a longer more drawn out version.
It took them 7 years to develop a combat system?? and a generic outdated looking one at that...
The only reason I (and many other people) even began following this game 5++ years ago is because of all the amazing features it promised which don't even look to be there.
This video looks like nothing more than Shadowbane version 2.0 complete with crappy graphics and all.
considering how long they've been working on this , this video is pathetic. 95% of everything that is in this video has already been shown in shorter clips years ago. It's just a longer more drawn out version. It took them 7 years to develop a combat system?? and a generic outdated looking one at that... The only reason I (and many other people) even began following this game 5++ years ago is because of all the amazing features it promised which don't even look to be there.
This video looks like nothing more than Shadowbane version 2.0 complete with crappy graphics and all. This will fail. fail...... fail.
Hey dood, can you PL me in AoC? Plxkthx.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
considering how long they've been working on this , this video is pathetic. 95% of everything that is in this video has already been shown in shorter clips years ago. It's just a longer more drawn out version. It took them 7 years to develop a combat system?? and a generic outdated looking one at that... The only reason I (and many other people) even began following this game 5++ years ago is because of all the amazing features it promised which don't even look to be there.
This video looks like nothing more than Shadowbane version 2.0 complete with crappy graphics and all. This will fail. fail...... fail.
Galantgone,
How successful do you think this game will be on release?
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Like I said before, when the game does come out, you will be looking at lots of features left out, that is a given.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
i bet you the game is feature complete
By now I believe so, here's a word from Dev Journal #21 from back in January:
"Overall, we have a near complete implementation of the game, speaking of the technology and our feature list. A few things that are not implemented yet but in the works are some clan controls, the environment system, and some AI optimizations."
And in a much more recent dev update...Tasos stated that the game is now feature complete. Ill find the quote if asked, but you can find it in the news section on the main website.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
No one knows if all these features will be in the game at release!
OH WAIT!!!
No one knows if they will be working IF they are in.
OH WAIT!!!!
All we've seen so far is a pretty video showing some fun PVP and SNIPPETS of a FEW of the other promised features. Don't scream so loud how revolutionary DF will be until the game is actually here with everything the Developers promised.
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
I don't think you understand what feature complete means. If the game had been feature complete last year, it would have released last year.
Feature Complete means that all of the features are in the game and working as intended. Not just that they "exist."
I'm not saying that everything they claim is in the game isn't in there. I"m just saying it's obviously not feature complete otherwise the game would be out.
Closed Beta is where they test what they have in order to make sure that it's working correctly, is fun, actually should be in, etc.
I personally think the game has been in development too long for it to be any good. It's behind on the times. If it had come out in 2004 it would have been very impressive. I just think it's taken them too long to put everything into the game that they wanted. I think the game would have been better if they would have trimmed the fat so to say.
It looks bloated with too many things to me. I mean naval combat on top of keep combat, on top of open world combat is going to mean that the playerbase is spread extremely thin. Not to mention all of those features are probably only a few feet deep. Had they focused on a few of those huge features instead of trying to do all of them, they could have made them extremely deep and not just feet deep.
To finish off this wall of text. I do think the game will be a lot of fun, and a lot of people will probably play it, but it won't be a huge success. And seriously, fix those running animations. The dwarfs look like they're doing that russian dance where you kick your legs up in front of you.
--------------------------------------------- I live to fight, and fight to live.
Rofl... This dude is complaining that its been in developement for TOO long and has TOO many features.
hahahahaha, WOW is all I can say.
Yup it is insanity.
And the same people will turn right around and say "AoC should have been delayed and developed longer, why dont developers listen to us!!!! Delay your games till they are ready for release!!!"
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
considering how long they've been working on this , this video is pathetic. 95% of everything that is in this video has already been shown in shorter clips years ago. It's just a longer more drawn out version. It took them 7 years to develop a combat system?? and a generic outdated looking one at that... The only reason I (and many other people) even began following this game 5++ years ago is because of all the amazing features it promised which don't even look to be there.
This video looks like nothing more than Shadowbane version 2.0 complete with crappy graphics and all. This will fail. fail...... fail.
Galantgone,
How successful do you think this game will be on release?
Thanks
If it releases and is stable and bug free? (big if there)
I can see it having maybe 10-15,000 subscribers the first few months.. than going Free to play like Shadowbane or Archlord or completely shutting down within 12 months.
Getting people to play your free Beta is easy. Getting people to pay you every single month for years is another story.
This simply CAN"T compete against games like Wrath of the Lich King or Warhammer Online.
I am asking myself WHY I should play this instead. And I can't really come up with an answer.
I already ordered Warhammer. I was in the preview Beta and based on this video War is on a TOTALLY different level.
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You just have to shake your head a those that turn a blind eye to past history. Every one of these MMO's have advertised a lot of features that either never do make it into the game or do so quite a bit later. Note, AoC's siege combat, it is in the game, but does not work and no eta when it will. DAoC had mounts in some of the pre-release videos, took then three years to get it in game.
Fact, the Adventurine staff is quite small, especially when compared with some of these big budget developers, hence the chances that all those wonderful features listed on their site will be in the game and work are slim and nil.
How about we focus on getting a working game out and let the fancy stuff come later like mounted combat or ship combat. If they include it at release, you can guarentee it will be broken in some manner or emminently exploitable.
Until we actually see this game get released, it really has no features at all. Videos are not proof of anything at all, with the technology today you can pretty much construct a video doing practically anything.
The graphics look good to me and I enjoyed EQ graphics when I played it back in the day so I don't see why I wouldn't like them now. Gameplay is always more important and Darkfall will be a seamless world without any instancing, partly because they aren't focusing on the highest graphical settings. A lot of people should be able to run Darkfall on older machines and still get good FPS. Emphasis on gameplay.
Being an old EQ1 vet I was thinking the same thing so I logged back into EQ1 after playing EQ2 for quite a while, but boy was I wrong. After about 5 minutes I said f*** this. The graphics were horrible. I was repulsed by them so much that I had to logoff. I will never go back to any graphics that resemble that. I know graphics aren't everything, but for me they play a major part.
Pffft. What's great is none of the haters have kept up with the game. Everyone assumes "hey I haven't read it so it can't be!"
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
Meanwhile every feature I talked about in my post... is in the vid. Every one of them.
You've spent far too long crying about how the game can't be real, now the fail is yours to own.
Pffft. What's great is none of the haters have kept up with the game. Everyone assumes "hey I haven't read it so it can't be!"
In fact, I am a) not a hater and b) saying "hey, I haven#t SEEN it working, so it MIGHT not be!" Learn the difference.
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
Proof for every feature in Darkfall? Please show me that. I would really like to see it.
Meanwhile every feature I talked about in my post... is in the vid. Every one of them.
You were talking about ALL features of the game in your post, by the end of it anyway. That#s what I was referring to.
You've spent far too long crying about how the game can't be real, now the fail is yours to own.
I am not crying about anything. I am urging a little caution instead of blindly believing the game will be the Second Coming.
Let#s see what the Beta brings, shall we? And the Free Play testing.
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Great to see Darkfall's new video and beta get some front page love! They put a lot of time into that movie and into the game in general so I am glad to see it almost time for it to pay off. And I cant remember what forum it was in, but this kind of put that conspiracy theorist about this site getting payed off to not follow DF to rest.
I have seen this video multiple times, and in different quality settings, and not only has it blown the mind of many of its long time fans, but it has opened the eyes of many other mmo'ers and we have seen a flood of new people interested in DF.
Hopefully in beta we can see how stable their servers are and work on getting them ready for release and give this game the best chance to prove to the world that an indy developer ran by gamers making games for gamers can really flourish over the powerhouse companies that keep feeding us disapointment.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Let#s see what the Beta brings, shall we? And the Free Play testing.
Fair enough. I'll not flame you again. And yes, the OH WAITS were a bit much.
However, please keep in mind that I was responding to this poster:
[quote]Personally I only had one work for the whole 17min. video... BOOOOOORING!
Not only are the graphics and animations horrible and un-insipiring, but a lot of the features that they talked about that were Oh so cutting edge are already being implemented, or have been implemented in other MMO's[/quote]
You can see why I might have gone on a rant against him; it is one thing to claim that the release might not be what we hope it will be, yet quite another to say that the aim of the darkfall devs has already been accomplished in other mmo's - it simply hasn't, not even close. You responded against me and I assumed that you were in line with him.
Meanwhile, I'll go through this one at a time, even though you are right I cannot prove every feature in the game... only the ones I talked about directly in my post.
1. Loot system - you're right I can't confirm this through the vid, not that it matters - it's the loot system.
2. Ground combat system - both 3rd person combat (melee) and first person combat (range) are briefly shown in parts of the vid.
3. Naval combat system - shows naval combat, including a shot of cannon firing.
4. Mounted combat system - shows mounted combat thoroughly.
5. Fortress sieges - shows fortress sieges thoroughly
and
6. Open world pvp - the entire video is of open world pvp
you can kill someone from 100 feet up in a tree - video
you don't get uber auto sneak you have to hide your ass like in the REAL world - video, esp. first half
the mob AI was designed by a military training software designer - not from video, heh, but legally ascertainable
the mobs act and react like real people as you can see in the video - watch the players vs. lizardmen fightscene in the video
here's where it gets tricky
the mobs have dynamic spawns that can be overfarmed so that they move - I can't ascertain this from the vid
you can build cities in over 50 different locations on the world - shows at least 4 different locations - again, I lose
the world is larger than WAR's tiny ass world and possibly wow's. - shows a lot of areas, I feel sorry for WAR - again, I lose
So in the end I apologize for getting a bit edgy... however, I think that the video speaks for itself... the game and most of its features are here, and I for one am glad.
I like the graphics, I mean if they can release with these graphics and this gameplay, even with half the features, then this game will be the holy grail of mmorpg's.
Meanwhile, I am playing Ryzom, the long lost gem of mmorpg land.
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"Pffft. What's great is none of the haters have kept up with the game. Everyone assumes "hey I haven't read it so it can't be!"
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
Meanwhile every feature I talked about in my post... is in the vid. Every one of them.
You've spent far too long crying about how the game can't be real, now the fail is yours to own."
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it? Proof on a variety of levels huh, care to point to any of what you call proof, None of the rest of us have seen anything at all that backs up your claims. As to the video, easy to put things in a video and hide that they are not fully implemented. All the video proves is they have the concepts in game, you cannot tell how well anything is working.
At this point in time, no one has any idea the state of the game, except the developers as they have not shown it to anyone.
Feature complete, that is a real hoot, how come beta has for the third time been announced, again without a date?
Like I said before, when the game does come out, you will be looking at lots of features left out, that is a given. All I care about is a working game with a limited amount of bugs. They can add in the missing feature later.
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
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Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
Hypocrisy at its best folks.
You can have the opinion, but by your own arguement, until you play it...it is not a FACT. Even if you really want it to be, its not sorry.
Just because other developers do it, doesn't mean this one will. And it doesnt mean they wont either. But you can't challenge someone else and use the support that they havent played yet so how do they know...and then justify your stance the same way, sorry no.
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Click this for lulz: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737/page/6
Felt I needed to point this out one more time.
Also, when theres a list of features, it tends to be the features in the game. Not to mention there have been posts over the months assuring which features are IN the game.
If you aren't down with Darkfall thats fine, But don't get bitter cause its going to succeed and be a uber experience for all true PvP'ers.
-Kin
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
i bet you the game is feature complete
EQ1 gfx your joking right?
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
i bet you the game is feature complete
By now I believe so, here's a word from Dev Journal #21 from back in January:
"Overall, we have a near complete implementation of the game, speaking of the technology and our feature list. A few things that are not implemented yet but in the works are some clan controls, the environment system, and some AI optimizations."
link...
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
lol I hear that.
When I saw darkfall on the main page of MMORPG.com I was like YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
considering how long they've been working on this , this video is pathetic.
95% of everything that is in this video has already been shown in shorter clips years ago. It's just a longer more drawn out version.
It took them 7 years to develop a combat system?? and a generic outdated looking one at that...
The only reason I (and many other people) even began following this game 5++ years ago is because of all the amazing features it promised which don't even look to be there.
This video looks like nothing more than Shadowbane version 2.0 complete with crappy graphics and all.
This will fail. fail...... fail.
Hey dood, can you PL me in AoC? Plxkthx.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Galantgone,
How successful do you think this game will be on release?
Thanks
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Oh really now, you have played the game and seen all this and can verify it?
Don't have to play the game to make that observation. If you had any software development knowledge at all you would know that the small shop they have would need a miracle to put together such a feature rich game at launch. It won't happen, that is a fact you can take to the bank!
i bet you the game is feature complete
By now I believe so, here's a word from Dev Journal #21 from back in January:
"Overall, we have a near complete implementation of the game, speaking of the technology and our feature list. A few things that are not implemented yet but in the works are some clan controls, the environment system, and some AI optimizations."
link...
And in a much more recent dev update...Tasos stated that the game is now feature complete. Ill find the quote if asked, but you can find it in the news section on the main website.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
It's been feature complete since last year. Everything since then has been closed beta testing to make sure that everything works. We've had proof on a variety of levels.
I don't think you understand what feature complete means. If the game had been feature complete last year, it would have released last year.
Feature Complete means that all of the features are in the game and working as intended. Not just that they "exist."
I'm not saying that everything they claim is in the game isn't in there. I"m just saying it's obviously not feature complete otherwise the game would be out.
Closed Beta is where they test what they have in order to make sure that it's working correctly, is fun, actually should be in, etc.
I personally think the game has been in development too long for it to be any good. It's behind on the times. If it had come out in 2004 it would have been very impressive. I just think it's taken them too long to put everything into the game that they wanted. I think the game would have been better if they would have trimmed the fat so to say.
It looks bloated with too many things to me. I mean naval combat on top of keep combat, on top of open world combat is going to mean that the playerbase is spread extremely thin. Not to mention all of those features are probably only a few feet deep. Had they focused on a few of those huge features instead of trying to do all of them, they could have made them extremely deep and not just feet deep.
To finish off this wall of text. I do think the game will be a lot of fun, and a lot of people will probably play it, but it won't be a huge success. And seriously, fix those running animations. The dwarfs look like they're doing that russian dance where you kick your legs up in front of you.
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Rofl... This dude is complaining that its been in developement for TOO long and has TOO many features.
hahahahaha, WOW is all I can say.
-Kin
Yup it is insanity.
And the same people will turn right around and say "AoC should have been delayed and developed longer, why dont developers listen to us!!!! Delay your games till they are ready for release!!!"
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Galantgone,
How successful do you think this game will be on release?
Thanks
If it releases and is stable and bug free? (big if there)
I can see it having maybe 10-15,000 subscribers the first few months.. than going Free to play like Shadowbane or Archlord or completely shutting down within 12 months.
Getting people to play your free Beta is easy. Getting people to pay you every single month for years is another story.
This simply CAN"T compete against games like Wrath of the Lich King or Warhammer Online.
I am asking myself WHY I should play this instead. And I can't really come up with an answer.
I already ordered Warhammer. I was in the preview Beta and based on this video War is on a TOTALLY different level.
Yeah and as I just said a few posts ago... WoW and AoC and WAR can have their players and KEEP them.
Me and mine will find our way to DF.
Not everyone is intimidated by competitive online PvP. Some people actually enjoy it! lol
-Kin