Has anyone noticed that Two of the class' in Order seem to turn the tides completely in PvP? I bet many of you can guess which 2 those are. Bright Wizard. Rune Priest. I don't know if its just me, but it seems that every time i come up against them. (Black Ork) I get completely stomped. Not even a close battle. I run out of AP before i can even serously hurt them not even talking about killing them i can barely hurt them. 1v1 fight goes something like me running out of AP and the Rune Priest being at full health before he/she slowly burns me down. And the Bright Wizard is about the same. I run out of AP and he is still able to blast me to hell. The 10 root doesnt do anything to help this considering once thats gone off i might as well turn tail and run because ill never reach him or her. Also why can he take more damage than Mdps class's? Seems kinda weird to me and alot of bull shit
Keep in mind that you're sampling a small portion of the game, some classes are stronger at different times during the progression, it is like that in every MMO in existence. When you get to 40 and still feel the same way, then there is reason to complain. Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes =P
Enjoy what im given?
Bright Wizards are top i mean tipity top top of damage meters every Scenario. EVERY even when order looses. (Never has happend since t2)
Rune Priests are Horribly opd with their damage sheilds and ability to reduce damage by 50%. Its impossible for me to even damage them.
Did it ever cross your mind that they are the Pure Ranged DPS nuking class on the side of order and that you were in the low level scenarios? I can also assure you they do not take damage better than a melee dps class, maybe well (for a caster), but not THAT well.
As for the Rune Priest, they are the support/healer class.
What are tanks weak against? That is right, Healers.
Every class has a strength and a weakness, the sooner you learn to accept that the better off you will be in RvR. Make yourself feel better, go kill a Witch Hunter..... with one hand behind your back.
Has anyone noticed that Two of the class' in Order seem to turn the tides completely in PvP? I bet many of you can guess which 2 those are. Bright Wizard. Rune Priest. I don't know if its just me, but it seems that every time i come up against them. (Black Ork) I get completely stomped. Not even a close battle. I run out of AP before i can even serously hurt them not even talking about killing them i can barely hurt them. 1v1 fight goes something like me running out of AP and the Rune Priest being at full health before he/she slowly burns me down. And the Bright Wizard is about the same. I run out of AP and he is still able to blast me to hell. The 10 root doesnt do anything to help this considering once thats gone off i might as well turn tail and run because ill never reach him or her. Also why can he take more damage than Mdps class's? Seems kinda weird to me and alot of bull shit
Keep in mind that you're sampling a small portion of the game, some classes are stronger at different times during the progression, it is like that in every MMO in existence. When you get to 40 and still feel the same way, then there is reason to complain. Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes =P
This answer was a joke right?
"Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes"
Hehe...I find it funny that you complain about Bright Wizards and Bright Wizards complain about me for resisting 60% of their spells because of my resists and then whomp their ass becuase I have high weapon skill and strength.
Don't like BW's? Get some resist gear and stop complaining. ;p
My Chosen has had little problems with Bright Wizards. Rune Priests are everyone's problem. They're damn solid healers. But if a solid two minutes breaks you apart from one measly Bright Wizard, even for a Black Ork, then it wasn't just one Bright Wizard, or he was packing a potion sent from the divine Lord himself that kept him alive.
I'm not disagreeing. The game has a few awry points that could be better in the class department. But I've sampled a bit of everything now and I must say that if something is wrong, it's on the player's part mostly. I've healed, I've tanked; I was a Magus and I played a Sorcerer, and tinkered with the Marauder.
There's no shame in running to get help.
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Has anyone noticed that Two of the class' in Order seem to turn the tides completely in PvP? I bet many of you can guess which 2 those are. Bright Wizard. Rune Priest. I don't know if its just me, but it seems that every time i come up against them. (Black Ork) I get completely stomped. Not even a close battle. I run out of AP before i can even serously hurt them not even talking about killing them i can barely hurt them. 1v1 fight goes something like me running out of AP and the Rune Priest being at full health before he/she slowly burns me down. And the Bright Wizard is about the same. I run out of AP and he is still able to blast me to hell. The 10 root doesnt do anything to help this considering once thats gone off i might as well turn tail and run because ill never reach him or her. Also why can he take more damage than Mdps class's? Seems kinda weird to me and alot of bull shit
lol people already complaining about imbalance? haha how sad.
What are you level 10, havn't even got all your skills yet and your talking about imbalance, seriously.
Anyone noticed 6 in 10 people on destruction are chaos? rofl.
Has anyone noticed that Two of the class' in Order seem to turn the tides completely in PvP? I bet many of you can guess which 2 those are. Bright Wizard. Rune Priest. I don't know if its just me, but it seems that every time i come up against them. (Black Ork) I get completely stomped. Not even a close battle. I run out of AP before i can even serously hurt them not even talking about killing them i can barely hurt them. 1v1 fight goes something like me running out of AP and the Rune Priest being at full health before he/she slowly burns me down. And the Bright Wizard is about the same. I run out of AP and he is still able to blast me to hell. The 10 root doesnt do anything to help this considering once thats gone off i might as well turn tail and run because ill never reach him or her. Also why can he take more damage than Mdps class's? Seems kinda weird to me and alot of bull shit
Keep in mind that you're sampling a small portion of the game, some classes are stronger at different times during the progression, it is like that in every MMO in existence. When you get to 40 and still feel the same way, then there is reason to complain. Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes =P
Enjoy what im given?
Bright Wizards are top i mean tipity top top of damage meters every Scenario. EVERY even when order looses. (Never has happend since t2)
Rune Priests are Horribly opd with their damage sheilds and ability to reduce damage by 50%. Its impossible for me to even damage them.
Top damage mean absolutely nothing I (Chosen) have been top damage a few times and I have seen alot of other classes having top damage, that being said I think peopel complaint about Bright Wizards because 6 out of 10 order are Bright Wizards, when i started OB it did feel a bit overpowered but at the moment and as people learn how to not suicide when there are 7 Bright Wizards just standing on hills they go down quite easily. Like one of the posters said, as you level up the strategies change completely with new skills.
And this is why RvR or any other PvP centric game turns into nothing more than a rotating Flavor of The Month game. Be ready for wave after wave of nerfs followed by copious bitching and threats to quit.
Everyone wants to be the War God class and if you can't solo 6 other players then your class sucks and needs to be buffed or someone else is overpowered. It is inconceivable that anyone use superior tactics and a properly balanced war party against your 6 orc tanks.
PvE whiners are bad enough. "Waaaah the mage always ends up first!" The sociopath PvP wannabe gods, though, just take the cake when it comes time to cry "Nerf!"
I still like the game, though. I just don't have any illusions that I will be King Turd of Shit Mountain, so I won't be suprised or disappointed when Warrior Priests or Shadow Warriors are nerfed into oblivion by whining Destruction players.
Drev
"If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it." -Luke McKinney, The 7 Biggest Dick Moves in the History of Online Gaming
"In the end, SWG may have been more potential and promise than fulfilled expectation. But I'd rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity." -Raph Koster
Ok, gotta ask the OP, what level were you and what level was the Rune Priest and Bright Wizard? Did you have your full set of renown gear or a good set of gear from PQs? Because it's been my experience this weekend that the difference between 2 levels can be huge if one player is level 9 and the other is level 11 with the best renown gear available.
BTW, as a ranged DPS class (engineer) there's nothing scarier than seeing a wall of black orcs and chosen rolling through the line looking to squash me. I'll take the sorceress or shaman any day.
I'm 12 bright wizard and I came away with the opposite impression. BWs do get an AoE root at level 10. It has a 20 second recharge and every time a BW does damage it has a 50% chance to break root. Two spells. That's about 500 points of damage not including DoTs. It's much more useful in a team atmosphere than it is for 1v1 combat (which is good).
In 1v1 I usually lose to a melee class that's equal my level. Depending on my recharge timers I will sometimes win but tbh a melee + healer > wizard + healer. That's how it should be.
Oh and the whole BWs do more damage...that's because of AoE damage spells. Don't group up!
Has anyone noticed that Two of the class' in Order seem to turn the tides completely in PvP? I bet many of you can guess which 2 those are. Bright Wizard. Rune Priest. I don't know if its just me, but it seems that every time i come up against them. (Black Ork) I get completely stomped. Not even a close battle. I run out of AP before i can even serously hurt them not even talking about killing them i can barely hurt them. 1v1 fight goes something like me running out of AP and the Rune Priest being at full health before he/she slowly burns me down. And the Bright Wizard is about the same. I run out of AP and he is still able to blast me to hell. The 10 root doesnt do anything to help this considering once thats gone off i might as well turn tail and run because ill never reach him or her. Also why can he take more damage than Mdps class's? Seems kinda weird to me and alot of bull shit
Its a good thing this game isn't balanced around 1v1. Also as a WH a true DPS class its almost immposible for me to kill a zealot(rune priest) and sorcs(bright wizards) can keep me snared while they pound on me if I don't get the jump(which I do most of the time) Black ork is a tank I hope there dps gets taken down a notch unless at rank 40 it isn't as powerful as it is now becuase then idc as only rank 40 matters. Also as a WH I can barely hurt you guys before Im torn to shreds by you.
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Keep in mind that you're sampling a small portion of the game, some classes are stronger at different times during the progression, it is like that in every MMO in existence. When you get to 40 and still feel the same way, then there is reason to complain. Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes =P
Enjoy what im given?
Bright Wizards are top i mean tipity top top of damage meters every Scenario. EVERY even when order looses. (Never has happend since t2)
Rune Priests are Horribly opd with their damage sheilds and ability to reduce damage by 50%. Its impossible for me to even damage them.
Did it ever cross your mind that they are the Pure Ranged DPS nuking class on the side of order and that you were in the low level scenarios? I can also assure you they do not take damage better than a melee dps class, maybe well (for a caster), but not THAT well.
As for the Rune Priest, they are the support/healer class.
What are tanks weak against? That is right, Healers.
Every class has a strength and a weakness, the sooner you learn to accept that the better off you will be in RvR. Make yourself feel better, go kill a Witch Hunter..... with one hand behind your back.
STOP WHINING!
I play a Choosen a lot and have no problem against a BW, maybe your gear was just really bad and his was really good?
Healers are a pain for tanks, but tanks are a pain for Melee DPS...it really is the rock paper thing.
Also if you won the 1v1 fight, do you think there would be a BW complaining that Black Orcs are overpowered?
Seriously, you seem so upset by this you might want to just play another game.
Keep in mind that you're sampling a small portion of the game, some classes are stronger at different times during the progression, it is like that in every MMO in existence. When you get to 40 and still feel the same way, then there is reason to complain. Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes =P
This answer was a joke right?
"Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes"
Hehe...I find it funny that you complain about Bright Wizards and Bright Wizards complain about me for resisting 60% of their spells because of my resists and then whomp their ass becuase I have high weapon skill and strength.
Don't like BW's? Get some resist gear and stop complaining. ;p
My Chosen has had little problems with Bright Wizards. Rune Priests are everyone's problem. They're damn solid healers. But if a solid two minutes breaks you apart from one measly Bright Wizard, even for a Black Ork, then it wasn't just one Bright Wizard, or he was packing a potion sent from the divine Lord himself that kept him alive.
I'm not disagreeing. The game has a few awry points that could be better in the class department. But I've sampled a bit of everything now and I must say that if something is wrong, it's on the player's part mostly. I've healed, I've tanked; I was a Magus and I played a Sorcerer, and tinkered with the Marauder.
There's no shame in running to get help.
---------------------
Sniper is another term for unorthodox surgeon.
I find them warrior classes really hard to kill i dunno why i see lots of other classes around him maybe healers but still that warrior wont go down.
Nerf warriors now. narf
lol people already complaining about imbalance? haha how sad.
What are you level 10, havn't even got all your skills yet and your talking about imbalance, seriously.
Anyone noticed 6 in 10 people on destruction are chaos? rofl.
really? i just beat a BW one on one with my Chosen. Not even down to half health and we where both lvl 9
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
@OP,
Sorc, Zealot
K?
Keep in mind that you're sampling a small portion of the game, some classes are stronger at different times during the progression, it is like that in every MMO in existence. When you get to 40 and still feel the same way, then there is reason to complain. Just enjoy what you're given... and don't fight those classes =P
Enjoy what im given?
Bright Wizards are top i mean tipity top top of damage meters every Scenario. EVERY even when order looses. (Never has happend since t2)
Rune Priests are Horribly opd with their damage sheilds and ability to reduce damage by 50%. Its impossible for me to even damage them.
Top damage mean absolutely nothing I (Chosen) have been top damage a few times and I have seen alot of other classes having top damage, that being said I think peopel complaint about Bright Wizards because 6 out of 10 order are Bright Wizards, when i started OB it did feel a bit overpowered but at the moment and as people learn how to not suicide when there are 7 Bright Wizards just standing on hills they go down quite easily. Like one of the posters said, as you level up the strategies change completely with new skills.
And this is why RvR or any other PvP centric game turns into nothing more than a rotating Flavor of The Month game. Be ready for wave after wave of nerfs followed by copious bitching and threats to quit.
Everyone wants to be the War God class and if you can't solo 6 other players then your class sucks and needs to be buffed or someone else is overpowered. It is inconceivable that anyone use superior tactics and a properly balanced war party against your 6 orc tanks.
PvE whiners are bad enough. "Waaaah the mage always ends up first!" The sociopath PvP wannabe gods, though, just take the cake when it comes time to cry "Nerf!"
I still like the game, though. I just don't have any illusions that I will be King Turd of Shit Mountain, so I won't be suprised or disappointed when Warrior Priests or Shadow Warriors are nerfed into oblivion by whining Destruction players.
Drev
"If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it."
-Luke McKinney, The 7 Biggest Dick Moves in the History of Online Gaming
"In the end, SWG may have been more potential and promise than fulfilled expectation. But I'd rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
-Raph Koster
Nothing wrong witht he Black Orc class. it wasn't made to be invincible.
Ok, gotta ask the OP, what level were you and what level was the Rune Priest and Bright Wizard? Did you have your full set of renown gear or a good set of gear from PQs? Because it's been my experience this weekend that the difference between 2 levels can be huge if one player is level 9 and the other is level 11 with the best renown gear available.
BTW, as a ranged DPS class (engineer) there's nothing scarier than seeing a wall of black orcs and chosen rolling through the line looking to squash me. I'll take the sorceress or shaman any day.
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I'm 12 bright wizard and I came away with the opposite impression. BWs do get an AoE root at level 10. It has a 20 second recharge and every time a BW does damage it has a 50% chance to break root. Two spells. That's about 500 points of damage not including DoTs. It's much more useful in a team atmosphere than it is for 1v1 combat (which is good).
In 1v1 I usually lose to a melee class that's equal my level. Depending on my recharge timers I will sometimes win but tbh a melee + healer > wizard + healer. That's how it should be.
Oh and the whole BWs do more damage...that's because of AoE damage spells. Don't group up!
Game is actually balanced very well.
Its a good thing this game isn't balanced around 1v1. Also as a WH a true DPS class its almost immposible for me to kill a zealot(rune priest) and sorcs(bright wizards) can keep me snared while they pound on me if I don't get the jump(which I do most of the time) Black ork is a tank I hope there dps gets taken down a notch unless at rank 40 it isn't as powerful as it is now becuase then idc as only rank 40 matters. Also as a WH I can barely hurt you guys before Im torn to shreds by you.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms
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