Easy 2D Graphic with 3D effects and no Sound, but the PvP is strong there, on some worlds, you get Experience for killing a higher lvl than you are. It's a funny game, played it 2 years - still playing it :P -
Ya. I read the article and if they think this is a good PvP system...
Well...They're going to hell...
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"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
i disagree.. EQ2 Will be one of the best. Im also in the beta. Its a great game, no doubt. Just need a load of ram then it'll run good Anyway. i suggest you try DAOC or the comming WoW.
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Originally posted by holle Tested EQ2 Beta and its soooooooo boring. Can someone give me some tipps for the next good RGP with PvP?
What makes EQ2 boring? Just the fact that it does not have PvP? please elabirate, im curious.
I love PvP ever since the UO days. I have not found one game that has done it correctly since. WOW will suffer becuase of its PvP choice, the headaches that await blizzard are going to be huge. Everyone whinning how a class 10 levels higher owned his low level character. One of the major reasons why I am not going to play WOW.
The best RPG that has awesome PvP is a bunch of grown men dressed in any historical period costumes pplaying paint ball.....Doesn't get more PvP than that!
Originally posted by BLueBEar Well the problem with Guild Wars is that it will not support massive players playing in a gameworld, it will be more like how NWN, Diablo II, Warcraft III are set up, free to play online but the servers will most likely be moderated by kids who like to do mischeavoous things to people. Not saying Guild Wars is going to be a bad game, I know it won't be, just saying it isn't nor shouldn't be listed in this genre (the mmog genre).
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You are all wrong, with everything you have stated here. First, each zone can support several houndred players at the same time, alltho most missions are instanced meaning that you will only see your party whilst in that zone.
"...it will be more like how NWN, Diablo II, Warcraft III are set up, free to play online but the servers will most likely be moderated by kids who like to do mischeavoous things to people..."
It will be FAR from NWN, D2 and WC3 are set up. First, you will always be on the same server as everyone else. There will not be multiple servers or worlds, only multiple instaces of each zone. And Areanet(the developers of GW), will moderate the server, not kids who like to do mischeavoous things to people.
That is all true, the servers will be moderated by Arena Net, and it will support tons of players. Now, the gameplay aspect is more of an online rpg than an mmorpg. You can't compare it to EQ2 or WoW and vice versa, because it's really a different game.
"If you really want to focus on PvP, Dark and Light will be your best bet."
Hate to break it to you but Dark and light is junk. I tested it and the graphics stink and the engine is laggy as all hell even on a high end system.. not to mention theres NO CONTENT.
Originally posted by studiobaker "If you really want to focus on PvP, Dark and Light will be your best bet." Hate to break it to you but Dark and light is junk. I tested it and the graphics stink and the engine is laggy as all hell even on a high end system.. not to mention theres NO CONTENT.
Lol, I found that funny for a few reasons.
1. He's breaking the NDA by posting that
2. Graphics don't suck at all
3. They haven't even optimized it for anything, that's why the REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLOSED BETA NEEDS A HIGH END SYSTEM.
4. NO CONTENT? Lol, You played the closed beta, buddy, they haven't even released more than 3/4 of their land/content yet.
5. It's in closed beta. Judging a game from a closed beta that is still half-one year away from release, great job.
Thanks, and back on topic, Dark and Light will be the next big PvP game.
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Well, if he really thinks the game sucks, why should he care?
2. Graphics don't suck at all
Ya, graphics aren't too bad. But everyones being spoiled by all the EQ2 crap.
3. They haven't even optimized it for anything, that's why the REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLOSED BETA NEEDS A HIGH END SYSTEM.
Well, from my knowledge, the closed beta of WoW ran the same as the stress beta. And well, lets face it, the stress beta ran like a dream.
4. NO CONTENT? Lol, You played the closed beta, buddy, they haven't even released more than 3/4 of their land/content yet.
Quests and landmass don't make a game.
5. It's in closed beta. Judging a game from a closed beta that is still half-one year away from release, great job.
If the foundation is ruined, the building won't last.
Thanks, and back on topic, Dark and Light will be the next big PvP game.
Your opinion, but yet you put down his opinion.
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"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
I don't think I found the part where they mention MxO will be pvp in that article, can you help me out here?
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Originally posted by BigPeeler WoW seems to have a fair PvP system... i've read all about it, but havnt had a chance to test it out... from what i've read though its pretty cool... try WoW OB (probably sometime mid oct.) and see what you think... i wonder how CoV's PvP will be though... seems really cool ^^ Super heroes and Super villains, dueling it out ^^ good stuff
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WoW PvP is level based, therefore it sucks no matter what they do with it.
The next mmorpgs that are designed around pvp are Dark and Light, Mourning, and Guild Wars.
For me, Mourning is the early favourite because it has a flexible class system, is skill based rather than level based (this may be changing to some small extent), and is open pvp with few restrictions.
Originally posted by studiobaker "If you really want to focus on PvP, Dark and Light will be your best bet." Hate to break it to you but Dark and light is junk. I tested it and the graphics stink and the engine is laggy as all hell even on a high end system.. not to mention theres NO CONTENT.
Concerning Dark and Light and the beta - here is what Mesreth, one of the community members from DnL had to say - quoting directly from his excellent post.
[quote]Ok, time to put people's thoughts at ease about concerns that a possiblly valid beta tester has put up.
First off, the information I am providing can largely be found in official posts and interviews. Those things that can't be found there, I will clarify.
Concerning hype of the game: Every game has hype, the difference is those games that hype, but don't deliver, and those that do what they claim. DnL has so far delivered on everything they have claimed. They have made no secret about their first focus being the integration of two difference graphics engines that weren't designed to work together. This is why their launch date and beta wave dates got moved back. But so far, they have done what they have said they would do.
Content: Again, see the above. They first wanted the world and character engines to be stable and smooth before introducing more factors into the mix. Due to some unforseen bugs in the integration of the engines, they have moved their beta schedule back, but so far, they are on target with the new schedule. They started implementing content about a month ago, although only just the very beginnings of it. They have also only just closed the deal with AD, who will be providing a lot of the content. All in all, I think they are right to make sure the platform is stable before implementing "this sword deals this much dmg, etc.". Incidently, they have stated (although I believe it was not to the general public, but I may have read it in a french interview) that they have already finished a lot of mechanics (content) of the game. I won't state which things they have said because I KNOW that the specifics of what has been completed already has not been made public. I will say that they haven't implemented all the that content yet, but they do have a schedule of when they will do so (see beta waves roll-out schedule).
Graphics quality: It is unfortunate that some people don't understand the development process of games. As we all know, the graphics from 'way back when' were nothing special. When working out the mechanics of a graphics engine, you NEVER use the high quality graphics that you will see in final release, you just use the bare minimum to be able to test the particular process you are working on. ie. - the movement of a character. I have personally spoken with people who have seen the in-game graphics at E3 and since then as well, and they have said that the only thing that comes close is EQ2. Let's also keep in mind that they have stated that they will not do the final graphics improvements until after January.
Framerate and Lag: Although I do not know anyone who has had any complaints about this (ie. - the guys who saw it at E3 said it worked flawlessly), this isn't to say they haven't had problems with this. The developers have said that they had problems with the integration of the graphics engines, and this would most definately explain any framerate issues that anyone may have experienced. I can say, that of those people who have seen the game since E3, their major praise is how incredible the graphics are and how smooth the engine works. The only complaint I have ever heard is the lack of implemented content.
All in all, I hope this alleviates any concerns that may have been generated by any negative posts. I will plainly state that I am not yet in beta. I will also say that though I'm not in beta, I still tried to maintain the integrity of the NDA (though I'm not subject to it) by not sharing anything that hasn't been released to the public. Even the information concerning the graphics can be deduced from the screenshots, videos, and publicly released information.
Mesreth[/quote]
But regardless there is just about only one way to form a real opinion of Dark and Light, or any other product for that matter, and that is to test out the finished product.
Im surprised nobody mentionned it and curious about the reaction : Saga Of Ryzom. Its not a full PvP game but theres Open PVP area, duel (you can invite anyone to a duel , everywhere, you have to ask him and the other need to accept it) and theres battles between guilds / races. In my opinion its the best approach for PVP, you get the uge battle as in L2, DaoC... and duel but no PK.
Oh please Studiobaker, don´t be so fool. There are only like 500 beta testers of Dark and Light, and all them are friends or family of the devs, or important members of the bigger guilds. No one believes that you have tested Dark and Light (maybe you have downloaded the 0.30 alpha test, but it´s only a engine test and it´s illegal to talk about it, or to have it without being selected for testing it)
Of course Dark and Light will have a faction based PvP with siege weapons and large scale battles with flying dragons and lots of mounts and different options. I think it´s the best option if you want a MMORPG with PvP, RP, exploration or politics. But, hey, visit the links posted before, you´ll find all the info U need.
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Try Tibia :P
www.tibia.com
Easy 2D Graphic with 3D effects and no Sound, but the PvP is strong there, on some worlds, you get Experience for killing a higher lvl than you are. It's a funny game, played it 2 years - still playing it :P -
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Ya. I read the article and if they think this is a good PvP system...
Well...They're going to hell...
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
i disagree.. EQ2 Will be one of the best. Im also in the beta. Its a great game, no doubt. Just need a load of ram then it'll run good
Anyway. i suggest you try DAOC or the comming WoW.
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Tested EQ2 Beta and its soooooooo boring.
I was sure you had to be atleast 18 to apply to EQ2 beta. I must have been misinformed
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I'm 28. Why did you think i'm under 18 writing that sentence? English is not my native language.
What makes EQ2 boring? Just the fact that it does not have PvP? please elabirate, im curious.
I love PvP ever since the UO days. I have not found one game that has done it correctly since. WOW will suffer becuase of its PvP choice, the headaches that await blizzard are going to be huge. Everyone whinning how a class 10 levels higher owned his low level character. One of the major reasons why I am not going to play WOW.
You are all wrong, with everything you have stated here. First, each zone can support several houndred players at the same time, alltho most missions are instanced meaning that you will only see your party whilst in that zone.
"...it will be more like how NWN, Diablo II, Warcraft III are set up, free to play online but the servers will most likely be moderated by kids who like to do mischeavoous things to people..."
It will be FAR from NWN, D2 and WC3 are set up. First, you will always be on the same server as everyone else. There will not be multiple servers or worlds, only multiple instaces of each zone. And Areanet(the developers of GW), will moderate the server, not kids who like to do mischeavoous things to people.
That is all true, the servers will be moderated by Arena Net, and it will support tons of players. Now, the gameplay aspect is more of an online rpg than an mmorpg. You can't compare it to EQ2 or WoW and vice versa, because it's really a different game.
"If you really want to focus on PvP, Dark and Light will be your best bet."
Hate to break it to you but Dark and light is junk. I tested it and the graphics stink and the engine is laggy as all hell even on a high end system.. not to mention theres NO CONTENT.
Lol, I found that funny for a few reasons.
1. He's breaking the NDA by posting that
2. Graphics don't suck at all
3. They haven't even optimized it for anything, that's why the REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLOSED BETA NEEDS A HIGH END SYSTEM.
4. NO CONTENT? Lol, You played the closed beta, buddy, they haven't even released more than 3/4 of their land/content yet.
5. It's in closed beta. Judging a game from a closed beta that is still half-one year away from release, great job.
Thanks, and back on topic, Dark and Light will be the next big PvP game.
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Life is just a huge game.
Everything comes and go.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Matrix Online will be pvp heres an article I am actually reading as I clicked on a link that brought me over here, its at Gamergod:
http://www.gamergod.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=84
I don't think I found the part where they mention MxO will be pvp in that article, can you help me out here?
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The next mmorpgs that are designed around pvp are Dark and Light, Mourning, and Guild Wars.
For me, Mourning is the early favourite because it has a flexible class system, is skill based rather than level based (this may be changing to some small extent), and is open pvp with few restrictions.
EQ2 will probably have the PvP servers like they have for EQ, but the game isnt't developed to balance pvp, so yah, makes making classes 10x easier.
WoW im not sure what to say yet for it, but PvP is a focus of development.
Guild Wars is like Diablo on crack, not the same dull areas and boss runs. And PvP is a main focus.
City of Villians, no info yet.
Off hand all i can think of right now.
Here you go Holle!
1. Screens: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/508/loadthread/21867/setstart/1/loadclass/173
2. Movie: http://www.sofdnl.com/E3-CD/media_contents/video/trailer.WMV
3. Features: http://ap.ofganareth.com/forum/index.php?act=SF&f=22
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Concerning Dark and Light and the beta - here is what Mesreth, one of the community members from DnL had to say - quoting directly from his excellent post.
[quote]Ok, time to put people's thoughts at ease about concerns that a possiblly valid beta tester has put up.
First off, the information I am providing can largely be found in official posts and interviews. Those things that can't be found there, I will clarify.
Concerning hype of the game: Every game has hype, the difference is those games that hype, but don't deliver, and those that do what they claim. DnL has so far delivered on everything they have claimed. They have made no secret about their first focus being the integration of two difference graphics engines that weren't designed to work together. This is why their launch date and beta wave dates got moved back. But so far, they have done what they have said they would do.
Content: Again, see the above. They first wanted the world and character engines to be stable and smooth before introducing more factors into the mix. Due to some unforseen bugs in the integration of the engines, they have moved their beta schedule back, but so far, they are on target with the new schedule. They started implementing content about a month ago, although only just the very beginnings of it. They have also only just closed the deal with AD, who will be providing a lot of the content. All in all, I think they are right to make sure the platform is stable before implementing "this sword deals this much dmg, etc.". Incidently, they have stated (although I believe it was not to the general public, but I may have read it in a french interview) that they have already finished a lot of mechanics (content) of the game. I won't state which things they have said because I KNOW that the specifics of what has been completed already has not been made public. I will say that they haven't implemented all the that content yet, but they do have a schedule of when they will do so (see beta waves roll-out schedule).
Graphics quality: It is unfortunate that some people don't understand the development process of games. As we all know, the graphics from 'way back when' were nothing special. When working out the mechanics of a graphics engine, you NEVER use the high quality graphics that you will see in final release, you just use the bare minimum to be able to test the particular process you are working on. ie. - the movement of a character. I have personally spoken with people who have seen the in-game graphics at E3 and since then as well, and they have said that the only thing that comes close is EQ2. Let's also keep in mind that they have stated that they will not do the final graphics improvements until after January.
Framerate and Lag: Although I do not know anyone who has had any complaints about this (ie. - the guys who saw it at E3 said it worked flawlessly), this isn't to say they haven't had problems with this. The developers have said that they had problems with the integration of the graphics engines, and this would most definately explain any framerate issues that anyone may have experienced. I can say, that of those people who have seen the game since E3, their major praise is how incredible the graphics are and how smooth the engine works. The only complaint I have ever heard is the lack of implemented content.
All in all, I hope this alleviates any concerns that may have been generated by any negative posts. I will plainly state that I am not yet in beta. I will also say that though I'm not in beta, I still tried to maintain the integrity of the NDA (though I'm not subject to it) by not sharing anything that hasn't been released to the public. Even the information concerning the graphics can be deduced from the screenshots, videos, and publicly released information.
Mesreth[/quote]
But regardless there is just about only one way to form a real opinion of Dark and Light, or any other product for that matter, and that is to test out the finished product.
Im surprised nobody mentionned it and curious about the reaction : Saga Of Ryzom. Its not a full PvP game but theres Open PVP area, duel (you can invite anyone to a duel , everywhere, you have to ask him and the other need to accept it) and theres battles between guilds / races. In my opinion its the best approach for PVP, you get the uge battle as in L2, DaoC... and duel but no PK.
Oh please Studiobaker, don´t be so fool. There are only like 500 beta testers of Dark and Light, and all them are friends or family of the devs, or important members of the bigger guilds.
No one believes that you have tested Dark and Light (maybe you have downloaded the 0.30 alpha test, but it´s only a engine test and it´s illegal to talk about it, or to have it without being selected for testing it)
Of course Dark and Light will have a faction based PvP with siege weapons and large scale battles with flying dragons and lots of mounts and different options.
I think it´s the best option if you want a MMORPG with PvP, RP, exploration or politics.
But, hey, visit the links posted before, you´ll find all the info U need.