Ok Mr. facts, let's see some proof of these numbers you are tossing around. I mean links, solid proof. You are the one claiming facts here, back them up. So...?
Well it is true. Thoes are the last offical number, and noone, NO ONE knows diffrent...officaly.
Correct. Including our over-zealous OP here.
You must just realize that my math is correct and you are upset that Age of Conan is not bombing as bad as you think it is.
Originally posted by ILOVEFUNCOM For 415,000 customers go to funcom.com and look at their reports they are there and also there are interviews with Erling Ellingson that show that those are the numbers and if you read the reports youll also see that the average time played was LESS than what FUNCOM expected. Of cousre 1 in 20 is a guess but it could well be 1 in 24 which would mean it has MORE subscribers or maybe as little as 1 in 15 which means it has LESS but eitherway no matter which way you go because there are 50 servers (you can add that up yourself) that means Age of Conan is plenty healthy.
What about the servers that are near dead? What about the servers that were never populated to begin with. To say all 50 servers have a mass amount of people on them is complete and utter ignorance. You are just throwing around numbers to make Funcom look like they fart tulips and roses.
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It is a FACT coming from FUNCOMs financial reports and how else can you explain servers that arent super busy yet have 415,000 customers? The answer is lots of servers and people not playing as much as you might be used to. Sorry if you wish it was different but these are the facts and facts unlike OPINION do not lie.
I really don't know if you are being serious, or if you are just saying this stuff to be funny. Please tell me you are kidding.
Where did you get your 20:1 ratio? You just made it up out of thin air. Where did you get your 400 people online from? You just made it up out of thin air. So you take two numbers you made up out of thin air and you multiple them by a factual number (the number of servers), and in your mind, that makes it a fact?
Throw into it the 'fact' lol that that 415k number came from June 30th and isn't even 'subscribers' it is customers.. it includes people that weren't even playing in June, let alone now.
Funcom has less than 100k subscribers. It has two viable servers right now and people are abandoning all the others and rerolling on those two. The only reason there hasn't been drastic server merges is because Funcom can't even program the cost of mounts.. I would love to see them try to program server mergers.
It is a FACT coming from FUNCOMs financial reports and how else can you explain servers that arent super busy yet have 415,000 customers? The answer is lots of servers and people not playing as much as you might be used to. Sorry if you wish it was different but these are the facts and facts unlike OPINION do not lie.
I really don't know if you are being serious, or if you are just saying this stuff to be funny. Please tell me you are kidding.
Where did you get your 20:1 ratio? You just made it up out of thin air. Where did you get your 400 people online from? You just made it up out of thin air. So you take two numbers you made up out of thin air and you multiple them by a factual number (the number of servers), and in your mind, that makes it a fact?
Throw into it the 'fact' lol that that 415k number came from June 30th and isn't even 'subscribers' it is customers.. it includes people that weren't even playing in June, let alone now.
Funcom has less than 100k subscribers. It has two viable servers right now and people are abandoning all the others and rerolling on those two. The only reason there hasn't been drastic server merges is because Funcom can't even program the cost of mounts.. I would love to see them try to program server mergers.
Lol do you think that people who have subscriptions are playing a lot right now? Read the official forums people are waiting for the PvP patch and are not playing very much right now. Also 400 people online on average is not a lot from reading the forums ive seen posts where like for example Tyranny has 1500 people online primetime so 400 is not a stretch at all. And those numbers are from August 14th perhaps you shouldnt be calling Erling a liar it is not very polite nor very truthful.
The 415k number was RELEASED on August 14th, but it was from June 30th. Read the 2nd quarter report. It takes a month and a half to do the report and have it audited by an outside accounting firm. The same way the 3Q ends on Sept 30, but we won't get the report til Nov 14.
Yeah, Erling is not a liar LOL pvp was never intended to be a 'feature' of the game.. among others.
Hmm ok Iam still playing Age of Conan but as soon as i saw nick ILOVEFUNCOM and topic AoC is still doing great ... its hard to take you siriously.
The game is NOT doing great, it can be fun and you can enjoy it but however you turn it was released at least 6 months to soon client stability wise and like a year content wise.
Imo oppinion the game do good when players who have subscription actually play, that 415.000 ... includes free month, those who subed for 3, 6 months and mostlikely buddy keys too.
We are still doing OK within the guild so at prime time there are 35 to 45 members online HOWEVER we never changed so many members so early in the game. Basically over 200 members left ( some put it on hold ) .. note: we did not have that many at beginning but we were recruting constantly after we saw that a lot of members/players are leaving the game primarily due no end game content and bugs,
Originally posted by ILOVEFUNCOM For 415,000 customers go to funcom.com and look at their reports they are there and also there are interviews with Erling Ellingson that show that those are the numbers and if you read the reports youll also see that the average time played was LESS than what FUNCOM expected.
So what you are saying is most of the remaining customers are barely playing the game. The only person I know who bought the game stopped playing months ago. Doesn't sound good for AOC.
You should stop posting. Fanatics never get anything good across. You make the AOC community look bad.
Even do it wasn't my kinda of game ( plus I just loooove warhammer lore.), I believe aoc will become something pretty good . Especially if their pvp patch work out , It could become a great FFA pvp MMO (am more into rvr myself). But some servers are near dead and they did lose a lot of subscribers due to various reasons. Lying about it just make people even more suspicious of trying it. Your not helping but thanks for trying.
Funcom did not claim a precise amount of subscriptions, they vaguely referred to "customers". Funcom stated that they will no longer announce subscription numbers for competitive reasons (not that they ever really did so, mind you). Funcom purposefully prevents players from using in-game tools to gather population metrics by obfuscating the data. Funcom stock has been free falling and is now far below what it averaged even before the launch of Age of Conan - what do the investors know?
All of these things point to their flag ship source of revenue (Age of Conan) being in critical condition. It is not a brash leap of logic to assume that their stated "customer" numbers are vastly inflated. In fact, the logical conclusion is that their subscription numbers are low enough to place the long term health of the game in jeopardy.
I'm still having fun with AoC, but it is clear that Funcom needs to seriously change things in this game. I haven't reached level 80 yet (only 43 at the moment) and though there are a lot of good things to say about this game, there are also many bad things going on.
I'll just wait and see what happens, I'm a humble casual player on a RP PvP server.
To OP: guessing about numbers or using outdated numbers will not get people back into the game or convince them the game is great. Many people already condemned AoC and probably will not give it a second chance. Too bad really, but there it is.
Played: AC, AC2, Anarchy Online, AoC, D&D Online, Dark+Light, EQ2, EVE Online, FF XI, Guild Wars, Lineage II, Lotro, Ragnarok, Ryzom, Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, WAR, WoW, etc. Also various MUDs
It is a FACT coming from FUNCOMs financial reports and how else can you explain servers that arent super busy yet have 415,000 customers? The answer is lots of servers and people not playing as much as you might be used to. Sorry if you wish it was different but these are the facts and facts unlike OPINION do not lie.
That answer is partly correct.
People are indeed not playing as much as you might be used to. I'm one of those people, who has not played in about 8 weeks.
However, I'm still one of those 415k, since I am still in my 3 months subscription.
What this means is that your 1 of 20 are playing 1 hour each day is a faulty assumption.
It is more likely 1 of 5 are playing 2 hours a day, while the other 100,000 subscribers will never play again and are just waiting for the subscription to run out.
Originally posted by TalRasha Originally posted by ILOVEFUNCOM It is a FACT coming from FUNCOMs financial reports and how else can you explain servers that arent super busy yet have 415,000 customers? The answer is lots of servers and people not playing as much as you might be used to. Sorry if you wish it was different but these are the facts and facts unlike OPINION do not lie.
That answer is partly correct. People are indeed not playing as much as you might be used to. I'm one of those people, who has not played in about 8 weeks. However, I'm still one of those 415k, since I am still in my 3 months subscription.
What this means is that your 1 of 20 are playing 1 hour each day is a faulty assumption. It is more likely 1 of 5 are playing 2 hours a day, while the other 100,000 subscribers will never play again and are just waiting for the subscription to run out.
I'm afraid you are right, the coming of WAR was probably not good for subscriber number either. On Saturday night running around in the Fields of the Dead and seeing only three or four other players should say enough... Luckily most content can be seen solo. Except for the dungeons, but I missed those in WoW as well because I cannot play for many hours at a time.
Played: AC, AC2, Anarchy Online, AoC, D&D Online, Dark+Light, EQ2, EVE Online, FF XI, Guild Wars, Lineage II, Lotro, Ragnarok, Ryzom, Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, WAR, WoW, etc. Also various MUDs
It is a FACT coming from FUNCOMs financial reports and how else can you explain servers that arent super busy yet have 415,000 customers? The answer is lots of servers and people not playing as much as you might be used to. Sorry if you wish it was different but these are the facts and facts unlike OPINION do not lie.
That answer is partly correct.
People are indeed not playing as much as you might be used to. I'm one of those people, who has not played in about 8 weeks.
However, I'm still one of those 415k, since I am still in my 3 months subscription.
What this means is that your 1 of 20 are playing 1 hour each day is a faulty assumption.
It is more likely 1 of 5 are playing 2 hours a day, while the other 100,000 subscribers will never play again and are just waiting for the subscription to run out.
And then most of you who arent playing will come back once you realize how fun the new PvP patch is and how great the new gear is I realize not everyone plays one hour a day it was only the MEAN and i hope you understand the difference i realize sometimes my math skills confuse average people and for that im sorry!
Average people? How about anyone who knows something about math. Seriously dude, all of your numbers are outdated and don't properly show how well AoC is doing. Face it, the game sucks and is taking too much time and money to fix it.
Dont take this the wrong way mate but your not confusing most of us with your maths skills, i perfectly understand what " the mean" of something is and how you came up with that, and why. As i think most of us understand, i myself breezed through maths and class it as one of my natural talents. and i'm sure 90% of these boards can handle numbers competently.
What people are asking is where your pulling the numbers from? yes 415k is an official number, but it's also a very old one and has no bearing on today. Dont get me wrong i dont think aoc is bombing nearly as bad as people claim and still think they are probably arounf 200k+ and i also think once pvp is patched and the new systwem is in then there will be a lot more subbing!
But as it stands it can't be called a great success either. succesful maybe but not a success.
People resign all the time from companys doing well to follow other persuits or take on different challenges. People resign all the time for fallouts etc. So you my friend are really jumping the gun and in the process dont look half as smart as you think you do. By the way i am no fanboy i dont even play the game, i did but found it lacking and boring, so your fanboy point just doesn't cut it i'm afraid!
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Well it is true. Thoes are the last offical number, and noone, NO ONE knows diffrent...officaly.
Correct. Including our over-zealous OP here.
You must just realize that my math is correct and you are upset that Age of Conan is not bombing as bad as you think it is.
It may be the numbers or not, but Funcom hasn't the shareholders all that happy. Not judgin by the
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FUNCOM.OL&t=3m&l=on&z=m&q=l&c
Or maybe these are fake too? Rendering ALL your numbers moot and useless as well. Enjoy the debate.
What about the servers that are near dead? What about the servers that were never populated to begin with. To say all 50 servers have a mass amount of people on them is complete and utter ignorance. You are just throwing around numbers to make Funcom look like they fart tulips and roses.
I really don't know if you are being serious, or if you are just saying this stuff to be funny. Please tell me you are kidding.
Where did you get your 20:1 ratio? You just made it up out of thin air. Where did you get your 400 people online from? You just made it up out of thin air. So you take two numbers you made up out of thin air and you multiple them by a factual number (the number of servers), and in your mind, that makes it a fact?
Throw into it the 'fact' lol that that 415k number came from June 30th and isn't even 'subscribers' it is customers.. it includes people that weren't even playing in June, let alone now.
Funcom has less than 100k subscribers. It has two viable servers right now and people are abandoning all the others and rerolling on those two. The only reason there hasn't been drastic server merges is because Funcom can't even program the cost of mounts.. I would love to see them try to program server mergers.
I really don't know if you are being serious, or if you are just saying this stuff to be funny. Please tell me you are kidding.
Where did you get your 20:1 ratio? You just made it up out of thin air. Where did you get your 400 people online from? You just made it up out of thin air. So you take two numbers you made up out of thin air and you multiple them by a factual number (the number of servers), and in your mind, that makes it a fact?
Throw into it the 'fact' lol that that 415k number came from June 30th and isn't even 'subscribers' it is customers.. it includes people that weren't even playing in June, let alone now.
Funcom has less than 100k subscribers. It has two viable servers right now and people are abandoning all the others and rerolling on those two. The only reason there hasn't been drastic server merges is because Funcom can't even program the cost of mounts.. I would love to see them try to program server mergers.
Lol do you think that people who have subscriptions are playing a lot right now? Read the official forums people are waiting for the PvP patch and are not playing very much right now. Also 400 people online on average is not a lot from reading the forums ive seen posts where like for example Tyranny has 1500 people online primetime so 400 is not a stretch at all. And those numbers are from August 14th perhaps you shouldnt be calling Erling a liar it is not very polite nor very truthful.
The 415k number was RELEASED on August 14th, but it was from June 30th. Read the 2nd quarter report. It takes a month and a half to do the report and have it audited by an outside accounting firm. The same way the 3Q ends on Sept 30, but we won't get the report til Nov 14.
Yeah, Erling is not a liar LOL
pvp was never intended to be a 'feature' of the game.. among others.
The math speaks volumes
1 fanboy+0 logic = 7
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Hmm ok Iam still playing Age of Conan but as soon as i saw nick ILOVEFUNCOM and topic AoC is still doing great ... its hard to take you siriously.
The game is NOT doing great, it can be fun and you can enjoy it but however you turn it was released at least 6 months to soon client stability wise and like a year content wise.
Imo oppinion the game do good when players who have subscription actually play, that 415.000 ... includes free month, those who subed for 3, 6 months and mostlikely buddy keys too.
We are still doing OK within the guild so at prime time there are 35 to 45 members online HOWEVER we never changed so many members so early in the game. Basically over 200 members left ( some put it on hold ) .. note: we did not have that many at beginning but we were recruting constantly after we saw that a lot of members/players are leaving the game primarily due no end game content and bugs,
pfft I really hate fanbois even more then haters.
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So what you are saying is most of the remaining customers are barely playing the game. The only person I know who bought the game stopped playing months ago. Doesn't sound good for AOC.
I didn't know that Hillary Clinton playes AoC!
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I don't get it.
You should stop posting. Fanatics never get anything good across. You make the AOC community look bad.
Even do it wasn't my kinda of game ( plus I just loooove warhammer lore.), I believe aoc will become something pretty good . Especially if their pvp patch work out , It could become a great FFA pvp MMO (am more into rvr myself). But some servers are near dead and they did lose a lot of subscribers due to various reasons. Lying about it just make people even more suspicious of trying it. Your not helping but thanks for trying.
http://revolutionwar.guildlaunch.com/
FC has reported 415k subs, that was around end of july. That included people who canceled, but their account is still active and buddy keys.
OP claims for 500k.
I point finger and laugh.
Retardation has never looked so hot.
Id be interested in seeing how badly the AoC numbers bomb come Thursday.
Funcom did not claim a precise amount of subscriptions, they vaguely referred to "customers". Funcom stated that they will no longer announce subscription numbers for competitive reasons (not that they ever really did so, mind you). Funcom purposefully prevents players from using in-game tools to gather population metrics by obfuscating the data. Funcom stock has been free falling and is now far below what it averaged even before the launch of Age of Conan - what do the investors know?
All of these things point to their flag ship source of revenue (Age of Conan) being in critical condition. It is not a brash leap of logic to assume that their stated "customer" numbers are vastly inflated. In fact, the logical conclusion is that their subscription numbers are low enough to place the long term health of the game in jeopardy.
I'm still having fun with AoC, but it is clear that Funcom needs to seriously change things in this game. I haven't reached level 80 yet (only 43 at the moment) and though there are a lot of good things to say about this game, there are also many bad things going on.
I'll just wait and see what happens, I'm a humble casual player on a RP PvP server.
To OP: guessing about numbers or using outdated numbers will not get people back into the game or convince them the game is great. Many people already condemned AoC and probably will not give it a second chance. Too bad really, but there it is.
Played: AC, AC2, Anarchy Online, AoC, D&D Online, Dark+Light, EQ2, EVE Online, FF XI, Guild Wars, Lineage II, Lotro, Ragnarok, Ryzom, Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, WAR, WoW, etc. Also various MUDs
That answer is partly correct.
People are indeed not playing as much as you might be used to. I'm one of those people, who has not played in about 8 weeks.
However, I'm still one of those 415k, since I am still in my 3 months subscription.
What this means is that your 1 of 20 are playing 1 hour each day is a faulty assumption.
It is more likely 1 of 5 are playing 2 hours a day, while the other 100,000 subscribers will never play again and are just waiting for the subscription to run out.
That answer is partly correct.
People are indeed not playing as much as you might be used to. I'm one of those people, who has not played in about 8 weeks.
However, I'm still one of those 415k, since I am still in my 3 months subscription.
What this means is that your 1 of 20 are playing 1 hour each day is a faulty assumption.
It is more likely 1 of 5 are playing 2 hours a day, while the other 100,000 subscribers will never play again and are just waiting for the subscription to run out.
I'm afraid you are right, the coming of WAR was probably not good for subscriber number either. On Saturday night running around in the Fields of the Dead and seeing only three or four other players should say enough... Luckily most content can be seen solo. Except for the dungeons, but I missed those in WoW as well because I cannot play for many hours at a time.
Played: AC, AC2, Anarchy Online, AoC, D&D Online, Dark+Light, EQ2, EVE Online, FF XI, Guild Wars, Lineage II, Lotro, Ragnarok, Ryzom, Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, WAR, WoW, etc. Also various MUDs
That answer is partly correct.
People are indeed not playing as much as you might be used to. I'm one of those people, who has not played in about 8 weeks.
However, I'm still one of those 415k, since I am still in my 3 months subscription.
What this means is that your 1 of 20 are playing 1 hour each day is a faulty assumption.
It is more likely 1 of 5 are playing 2 hours a day, while the other 100,000 subscribers will never play again and are just waiting for the subscription to run out.
And then most of you who arent playing will come back once you realize how fun the new PvP patch is and how great the new gear is I realize not everyone plays one hour a day it was only the MEAN and i hope you understand the difference i realize sometimes my math skills confuse average people and for that im sorry!
Average people? How about anyone who knows something about math. Seriously dude, all of your numbers are outdated and don't properly show how well AoC is doing. Face it, the game sucks and is taking too much time and money to fix it.
Dont take this the wrong way mate but your not confusing most of us with your maths skills, i perfectly understand what " the mean" of something is and how you came up with that, and why. As i think most of us understand, i myself breezed through maths and class it as one of my natural talents. and i'm sure 90% of these boards can handle numbers competently.
What people are asking is where your pulling the numbers from? yes 415k is an official number, but it's also a very old one and has no bearing on today. Dont get me wrong i dont think aoc is bombing nearly as bad as people claim and still think they are probably arounf 200k+ and i also think once pvp is patched and the new systwem is in then there will be a lot more subbing!
But as it stands it can't be called a great success either. succesful maybe but not a success.
The game director was just forced out of the company under the always benign auspices of "resignation".
Please, fan boys, stop embarrassing yourselves. All quantifiable, empirical, obvious evidence points to you being wrong.
People resign all the time from companys doing well to follow other persuits or take on different challenges. People resign all the time for fallouts etc. So you my friend are really jumping the gun and in the process dont look half as smart as you think you do. By the way i am no fanboy i dont even play the game, i did but found it lacking and boring, so your fanboy point just doesn't cut it i'm afraid!
People with egos as big as Gaute's never resign quietly unless they have a reason to stay quiet.
I hope he finds a better line of work, and takes a piece of humble pie from this.
Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.