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As I expected. WAR is boring.

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  • holonistholonist Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by AstralGeth

    Originally posted by Vato26

    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by TheSheikh

    Originally posted by Itirel

    Originally posted by huxflux2004

    Originally posted by TheSheikh


    Thank you Huxflux..... for your intelligent and well written out response.....
    I believe I am going to go delete all of my characters and unsubscribe now, due to this realisation.

     

    Happy to hear that. Now you might stop burning your brain cells and try out a more intelligent game, like EVE-Online.

     

    I think TheSheikh was being sarcastic... I hope.



     

    I guess the .....'s didn't work!

    Next time I'll use the /sarcasm indicator.

     

    Why play Eve when I can play an even more intelligenter game like scrabble, which has more action in it anyway.

    True... or just mess around MS Excel.  At least Excel is free, while EvE costs you monthly sub... and they're essentially the same thing.

    Weird, two common complaints against EVE are "it's a spreadsheet / no action" and "you just get ganked randomly at gates by old players."

    Makes me realize most people don't "get" EVE. Your experience is up to what YOU make of it.

    BS , im running 2 eve accounts one with 72mill and another with 35 mill , you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

  • Ender4Ender4 Member UncommonPosts: 2,247

    Sandbox games bore me to tears. I found UO very boring and couldn't get into Eve at all. Not everyone wants the same thing out of a game that you do. WAR is a breath of fresh air for me, it is most of the good parts(PvP, casual grouping) of the MMORPG genre without the stuff I don't like (pve gear grinds etc). The combat is as fast paced as WoW so I still never understand that argument, sounds like people who quit by level 5 and never really got any skills to me.

  • AstralGethAstralGeth Member Posts: 197
    Originally posted by holonist

    Originally posted by AstralGeth

    Originally posted by Vato26

    Originally posted by gestalt11

    Originally posted by TheSheikh

    Originally posted by Itirel

    Originally posted by huxflux2004

    Originally posted by TheSheikh


    Thank you Huxflux..... for your intelligent and well written out response.....
    I believe I am going to go delete all of my characters and unsubscribe now, due to this realisation.

     

    Happy to hear that. Now you might stop burning your brain cells and try out a more intelligent game, like EVE-Online.

     

    I think TheSheikh was being sarcastic... I hope.



     

    I guess the .....'s didn't work!

    Next time I'll use the /sarcasm indicator.

     

    Why play Eve when I can play an even more intelligenter game like scrabble, which has more action in it anyway.

    True... or just mess around MS Excel.  At least Excel is free, while EvE costs you monthly sub... and they're essentially the same thing.

    Weird, two common complaints against EVE are "it's a spreadsheet / no action" and "you just get ganked randomly at gates by old players."

    Makes me realize most people don't "get" EVE. Your experience is up to what YOU make of it.

    BS , im running 2 eve accounts one with 72mill and another with 35 mill , you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

    What is incorrect about "Your experience is up to what YOU make of it" in EVE.

    Please tell me how I don't know what I'm talking about.

  • GetalifeGetalife Member CommonPosts: 786
    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

     

    It's a FACT? this post needs an ORLY? picture.

  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546

    WAR is what AV was supposed to be in WoW. 

    I've only done two dif. scenarios and each of them have been better then any single BG in WoW.

    More diversity within a class with all of the skills and abilities you can get.

    I've been sick to death of the EQ style of MMO.  Oddly enough, I'm loving WAR.

    After 4 years of WoW the only thing that would keep me resubing was doing BG's with friends.  I've been looking for a good PvPcentric game; I found it.

    Anyone picking up WAR for PvE is making a mistake.  I've been trying to get a friend to play something other then WoW for 2 years now; I've been unseccesfull.  I got WAR, played it, called him and all I said was, "you know who would like WAR?  Anyone that is more interested in doing BG's in WoW; with questing as a means of diversion."  He hung the phone up, went and baught WAR and for the first time in a very long time I got a call at 8:30 in the morning from him asking me to log into a game and play.  WAR is the first game in the last couple of years I've spent multiple hours playing, had an urge to play after logging off, and woke up the next morning actually wanting to play more.

    I'm not one for lore, but damn, the ToK thing is nice.  I like clicking an object and getting xp and seeing a new entry in my tome.  Everywhere I go, and everytime I do something it seems like I unlocking something. 

    In a scenario a player killed me, I got xp for dying to that player and actually levelled.  When every other game penalizes you for dying in PvP, WAR rewarded me. 

    I made an alt, logged in, and immediately entered into PvP.  Not only could I do PvP at lvl 1, I can contribute. 

    I log into WoW, hop on my mage, enter BG and run from locks.  I have not come across a single class that makes me go WTF!  Although, goblin shamans are pretty sick nasty.

    My bright wizard feels like he rains destruction.  I have something around 10 skills and I use everyone of them.  My mage in WoW feels feeble compared to it, and I spend the magority of my time spamming a single key.  When a melee class gets within range of my BW I don't feel like I'll die instantly, my mage in WoW does. 

    Do a scenario and you make money, xp, renown to get gear.  Items drop in scenarios, Items I can use, and sometimes better then what I have.  WoW bg's end up costing me money, and I have no choice but to grind PvE either for gear or for repairs.

    Combat actually feels like it moves at a very good pace.  It's not to fast, not to slow.  Tanks are viable in PvP, healers aren't the end all.  Every try and kill a guy in a WoW bg with a dedicated healer, how about try and stop a druid running with a flag.

    LoTRO held me for just over half an hour.  LoTRO is a PvE game, and in my opinion it sucks, and plays nothing like WAR.  Having the same basic combat mechanics does not in any way mean that they play the same.  WAR and LoTRO are about as similliar as SWG and DAoC.  Trying to draw a comparison between the two games is just silly, each is geared toward an entirely dif. player base.

     

  • ZebladeZeblade Member UncommonPosts: 931
    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

     

    Well you went in expecting it to fail. So what are some of these NEW ideas you have for MMO's? So what you dont like.. not everyone liked WOW, or Lotro or AoC or Eve.. there just GAMES!

  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,546
    Originally posted by Fariic


    WAR is what AV was supposed to be in WoW. 

    I've only done two dif. scenarios and each of them have been better then any single BG in WoW.

     



     

    It seems to get better day by day. Just this afternoon, I had a run of the Nordland scenario. We (Order) took the Lighthouse and met the Destruction side at the Fortress, we drove them back, but didn't get far. We fought till the scenario ended on that edge between Fortress and Barracks, with everyone in this tiny space, smacking away, healing, spells flying all over the place. Us pushing them back, them pushing us back again. It was awesome! Best game I had ever.

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  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by BizkitNL

    Originally posted by Fariic


    WAR is what AV was supposed to be in WoW. 

    I've only done two dif. scenarios and each of them have been better then any single BG in WoW.

     



     

    It seems to get better day by day. Just this afternoon, I had a run of the Nordland scenario. We (Order) took the Lighthouse and met the Destruction side at the Fortress, we drove them back, but didn't get far. We fought till the scenario ended on that edge between Fortress and Barracks, with everyone in this tiny space, smacking away, healing, spells flying all over the place. Us pushing them back, them pushing us back again. It was awesome! Best game I had ever.



     

    My best.

    A 500 to 90 victory for Order. 

  • Kruniac2Kruniac2 Member Posts: 35
    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

     

    Considering the fact that you can get some PvP as soon as you enter the game, and that PvE is simply downtime for when you are in an RvR queue, this game is anything but boring.

     

    Its boring to carebears, but no one else. End.

  • AstralGethAstralGeth Member Posts: 197
    Originally posted by Kruniac2

    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

     

    Considering the fact that you can get some PvP as soon as you enter the game, and that PvE is simply downtime for when you are in an RvR queue, this game is anything but boring.

     

    Its boring to carebears, but no one else. End.

    Well, I'm not a carebear. But PvP where you kill someone, then they show up 30 seconds later on the battlefield, or where you get killed only to run into the meatgrinder again a minute later is boring for me.

    Not everyone likes this kind of PvP.

  • nikoliathnikoliath Member UncommonPosts: 1,154
    Originally posted by Fariic


    WAR is what AV was supposed to be in WoW. 

    I've only done two dif. scenarios and each of them have been better then any single BG in WoW.

    More diversity within a class with all of the skills and abilities you can get.
    I've been sick to death of the EQ style of MMO.  Oddly enough, I'm loving WAR.
    After 4 years of WoW the only thing that would keep me resubing was doing BG's with friends.  I've been looking for a good PvPcentric game; I found it.
    Anyone picking up WAR for PvE is making a mistake.  I've been trying to get a friend to play something other then WoW for 2 years now; I've been unseccesfull.  I got WAR, played it, called him and all I said was, "you know who would like WAR?  Anyone that is more interested in doing BG's in WoW; with questing as a means of diversion."  He hung the phone up, went and baught WAR and for the first time in a very long time I got a call at 8:30 in the morning from him asking me to log into a game and play.  WAR is the first game in the last couple of years I've spent multiple hours playing, had an urge to play after logging off, and woke up the next morning actually wanting to play more.
    I'm not one for lore, but damn, the ToK thing is nice.  I like clicking an object and getting xp and seeing a new entry in my tome.  Everywhere I go, and everytime I do something it seems like I unlocking something. 
    In a scenario a player killed me, I got xp for dying to that player and actually levelled.  When every other game penalizes you for dying in PvP, WAR rewarded me. 
    I made an alt, logged in, and immediately entered into PvP.  Not only could I do PvP at lvl 1, I can contribute. 
    I log into WoW, hop on my mage, enter BG and run from locks.  I have not come across a single class that makes me go WTF!  Although, goblin shamans are pretty sick nasty.
    My bright wizard feels like he rains destruction.  I have something around 10 skills and I use everyone of them.  My mage in WoW feels feeble compared to it, and I spend the magority of my time spamming a single key.  When a melee class gets within range of my BW I don't feel like I'll die instantly, my mage in WoW does. 
    Do a scenario and you make money, xp, renown to get gear.  Items drop in scenarios, Items I can use, and sometimes better then what I have.  WoW bg's end up costing me money, and I have no choice but to grind PvE either for gear or for repairs.
    Combat actually feels like it moves at a very good pace.  It's not to fast, not to slow.  Tanks are viable in PvP, healers aren't the end all.  Every try and kill a guy in a WoW bg with a dedicated healer, how about try and stop a druid running with a flag.
    LoTRO held me for just over half an hour.  LoTRO is a PvE game, and in my opinion it sucks, and plays nothing like WAR.  Having the same basic combat mechanics does not in any way mean that they play the same.  WAR and LoTRO are about as similliar as SWG and DAoC.  Trying to draw a comparison between the two games is just silly, each is geared toward an entirely dif. player base.
     

    fabulous post sir

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    The OP seems like someone that played for about 10 minutes not even bothering to try the game out entirely with an open mind. It's obviously a person that for some reason feels scared of a new game coming out and taking people from their own. Competition is good, it forces the companies to work harder for their customers.

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  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,572
    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

    Says the AoC fanboy.  Obvious troll is obvious.

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  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,572
    Originally posted by AstralGeth

    Originally posted by Kruniac2

    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

     

    Considering the fact that you can get some PvP as soon as you enter the game, and that PvE is simply downtime for when you are in an RvR queue, this game is anything but boring.

     

    Its boring to carebears, but no one else. End.

    Well, I'm not a carebear. But PvP where you kill someone, then they show up 30 seconds later on the battlefield, or where you get killed only to run into the meatgrinder again a minute later is boring for me.

    Not everyone likes this kind of PvP.

    What do you want?  To be killed and have to sit out the whole round?  Wow, that sounds like all kinds of fun.

    Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?

    Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.

  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168

    Mythic has never been an orginial company.  Camelot was like EQ, Warhammer online is like WOW.  They try to ride the wave of success. 

    I never liked Wow hence I wont purchase War. 

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  • AstralGethAstralGeth Member Posts: 197
    Originally posted by Ginaz

    Originally posted by AstralGeth

    Originally posted by Kruniac2

    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

     

    Considering the fact that you can get some PvP as soon as you enter the game, and that PvE is simply downtime for when you are in an RvR queue, this game is anything but boring.

     

    Its boring to carebears, but no one else. End.

    Well, I'm not a carebear. But PvP where you kill someone, then they show up 30 seconds later on the battlefield, or where you get killed only to run into the meatgrinder again a minute later is boring for me.

    Not everyone likes this kind of PvP.

    What do you want?  To be killed and have to sit out the whole round?  Wow, that sounds like all kinds of fun.

     

    I wouldn't mind sitting out a "round" if my fighting and eventual death had some significance to the objective and the outcome of the game in the long run, instead of trying to farm as much renown/honor/whatever in as little time as possible when in the long run it means a lot less than you think.

  • anonymousseanonymousse Member Posts: 61

    Wait, OP says WAR is boring and then tells people to go and try Eve.

    Think about it. Think.

  • AstralGethAstralGeth Member Posts: 197
    Originally posted by anonymousse


    Wait, OP says WAR is boring and then tells people to go and try Eve.
    Think about it. Think.

     

    People have different tastes in games? Imagine that!

  • Balthaazar1Balthaazar1 Member Posts: 531

    What you do on the battle field DOES have an effect. You take out their bright wizards, your vanguard host can then push through safely to kill the healers without being incinerated. You strategically face your foe and think who's death would give your side some time to advance forward. With the healers now dead and the bright wizards returning, its time to slaughter the lot of them while they are waiting for their healers to return swiftly. The sorcerers battle the bright wizards and soon its becoming harder and harder to keep pushing through. That dwarf is now recieving constant healing and becomes an imovable barrier, so the chosen keep them busy as they are the ones strong enough to take them head to head. It takes ten people sometimes to slay the immovable tank and it's all very fast and deadly and strategic. I don't know what the hell you're talking about by boring pvp?

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  • CymdaiCymdai Member UncommonPosts: 1,043

    I personally feel as though PQ's are the best feature of this game, in my lowly level 10 character's experience.

    It gives players without guilds, massive chunks of time, and a distaste for organized raids a chance to get competitive equipment.

    I, personally, hate raiding, and the concept of sinking hour upon hour into one for some gear is both tedious and irritating. So I think it's fantastic that I can walk into a zone, follow a few simple directions, and with a little luck and some skill at my class, I can pull in some respectable gear.

    However, I will say that the UI feels a bit cluttered... and I don't particularly like that grinding is completely ineffective (at least not as an Archmage at my level).

    I'll probaby write my own comprehensive review when I get to 40.

    Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...

  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by AstralGeth

    Originally posted by Kruniac2

    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

     

    Considering the fact that you can get some PvP as soon as you enter the game, and that PvE is simply downtime for when you are in an RvR queue, this game is anything but boring.

     

    Its boring to carebears, but no one else. End.

    Well, I'm not a carebear. But PvP where you kill someone, then they show up 30 seconds later on the battlefield, or where you get killed only to run into the meatgrinder again a minute later is boring for me.

    Not everyone likes this kind of PvP.



     

    That's cool.. 

    My friend and I decided to take a break from doing scenarios and explore a little.  We ran into a bunch of chaos guys and PvP'ed that way.  

    You get better loot killing players then you do off of NPC's.  We made a killing.  The best part was, everyone we faught was of the same level.  We got xp,  renown for our faction, lots of uncommon items that I can break down to make talismans or sell.  All and all it was a good day. 

    When I got tired of the meatgrinder I did world pvp. 

    WAR is the only game I've come across that has dif. canons that I can control and fire at enemy players with.  I had just as much fun doing world pvp as I did doing scenarios.



    I can't wait to fight over a keep.

    I hit level 12 today; I have 3 scenarios to choose from, and a lot of world objectives that actually benefit your faction to control. 

    The number of public quests that are available is crazy.  They're all over the place, and every one I've gone to has had other players in them.  I've compleated 4 or 5 now, and failed a few others. They've been fun, rewarding, and contributed to the overall RvR.

    Honestly though.  Doing quests is doing quests, be it WAR, WoW, EQ2, VG, etc. they are all the same in context.  Go kill this, go kill that, bring me this, and take that.  Doing nothing but that is boring. 

    I thnk Mythic did a very nice job of providing multiple playstyles for both pvp and pve.

     

     

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  • jjclemmjjclemm Member Posts: 16

    So you did'nt like it , now leave, move on , bye

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by templarga

    Originally posted by huxflux2004


    Although one could tell by reading the info that Mythic was giving out during these last 2 years, this is now a fact for everyone. WAR is boring. No innovation at all. A game that plays exactly the same way as WoW or LotRO. All that PQ and ToK crap is nothing else than the usual MMO elements in a different wrapping (the wrapping being not very different itself). I need some answers from the fans. Why were you so excited with the ToK? How different is it from LotROs book thingy, and how can it change the way you are experiencing the game? What about PQs? What is so exciting about those? And the combat. Oh my. ABSOLUTELY no new ideas. Slow, repetitive, easy. As uninteresting as it can get.
     
    The only thing I kind of like is GUI. Although it has bugs all over the place.

    How ignorant.



    if you think WAR is boring then you do not not know how to play or worked very hard to try. The game is anything remotely resembling boring. As a matter of fact, many people have the opposite issues that WAR has SO much to do and is overwhelming at first that its almost intimidating.



    And sorry but you recommend players play EVE instead? Now wanna talk about boring.....

      This post is simply ridiculous, if you're bored you don't know what you're doing ? You realize he may get bored doing exactly what he should be? I thought war was exciting at first, fifty scenarios and a hundred open RVR battles later I was bored to death.

      I don't think I've experienced a better example of meaningless pvp anywhere. Seriously I feel the lack of consequence is a horrible idea, it creates a stagnation to open battles, especially having spawns so close by. With no downtime even in regard to travel, battles never really go anywhere until one side gets bored and gives up. That's a cheap idea of victory IMO. Flame this response all you want, it takes nothing away from it's validity.

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  • SimkynSimkyn Member Posts: 42

    Actually the RvR combat isn't meanlingless. If your side conquests more than the other side, you get realm bonuses similar to DAoC.

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