I do not see anything in this legislation saying that if we do this we will NOT have an economic meltdown. In fact They said they cannot guarantee that of course. All this does is postpone it?
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
I do not see anything in this legislation saying that if we do this we will NOT have an economic meltdown. In fact They said they cannot guarantee that of course. All this does is postpone it?
Maybe. Our fate is in our hands. If we don't correct the underlying problem, we will repeat it.
The foreign central banks do not think we are that stupid. They will open up the credit to us if we ratify, and continue selling us our oil and Chinese made products. It will go somewhat back to normalcy, except the American people will be paying for this mistake for at least 50 years. It will be spread out so it doesn't hurt too much. There will probably be future economic wars, they want to know now if we will bend the knee.
The problem comes if we don't ratify. The foreign central banks will take that as an indication that the US is going to default and stick them with the bill. Everyone has seen this coming for awhile, our debt to the OPEC countries and China continues to rise. Rather than be in doubt, they want to know now where we stand as a credit risk. They have been selling off dollars for some time, that is one reason the exchange rate is dropping. They were preparing, we were not. Not ratifying guarantees the meltdown. They are basically putting the gun to our head, and giving us the option to pull the trigger.
Hopefully we will wake up, and not sleep through the next economic war. The problem that I see is that neither McCain nor Obama seem to want to address the underlying problem.
Think of this as you fill up on Kuwaiti oil, and buy Chines made Christmas presents.
All I have to say is "Thank God!, Mr. McCain is running to Washington to straighten this all out and save the US economy. Save us all. Save the world. " I just can't express my relief enough. The man is putting his campaign to the side and thinking of the people. WHEW........What a guy.
Do you think McCain's driving motivation is not votes? The man is running a campaign for the president of the United States. He eats, sleeps and wipes his ass thinking of how he can obtain more votes. Pffft ...... just another move on the chess board. It'll be interesting to how it all pans out.
I think he should stick with the scheduled debate.
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
All I have to say is "Thank God!, Mr. McCain is running to Washington to straighten this all out and save the US economy. Save us all. Save the world. " I just can't express my relief enough. The man is putting his campaign to the side and thinking of the people. WHEW........What a guy. Do you think McCain's driving motivation is not votes? The man is running a campaign for the president of the United States. He eats, sleeps and wipes his ass thinking of how he can obtain more votes. Pffft ...... just another move on the chess board. It'll be interesting to how it all pans out. I think he should stick with the scheduled debate.
~Hairysun~
and i think he should he JOB , you know the one he HAS , not the one he wants. He is a senator they have a need , running for president isnt his job , its what he does on the side. Like Obama . So if Obama refuses to do his current JOB what is that telling me he will do on his next job?
Image this interview ...
Interviewer : what did you do on your last job?
Guy : I put out fires.
Interviewer: hmm says here on your resume' that you were a teacher.
Guy: Yeah i didnt really have time to do my job , i just wanted to put out fires hoping they would make me a fireman one day.
Interviewer: so what about your classroom? who watched that?
Guy: Oh some other teachers, I mean i wasnt really needed since the school had like 99 other teachers there whats the need of the extra 1?
yeah ... thats going to go over well with people once this actually sets in what just happened.
.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
Why would foreign national banks pay for this in the first place. They already pay for most of the US debt. And you have billions in trade deficit to China.
Basically they want to keep us so far in debt that we could never break free as we once did in the past. They want to make sure we are never able to do that again , because it would mean a collapse of the world banks.
Basically they want to keep us so far in debt that we could never break free as we once did in the past. They want to make sure we are never able to do that again , because it would mean a collapse of the world banks.
The international bankers that already own all of the world banks.
China holds most of the US debt. They have no interest to see the US in debt.
The only reason the US is in debt is because it chose to be. Billions of US assest and debts are in chinese hands.
The only reason China is not selling those is because it would mean every american would be on the street the next day, your dollar would completely collapse and no international bank would be able to bail the US out.
China doesn't want to see this happen, at least not uncontrolled, because it would mean a huge increase in inflation in chinese currency. They are controlling it right now and the curreny is kept down until it's even and people are used to the new values.
But don't be mistaken, China holds the US on a few strings, if they wanted to cut the strings they would have done so.
Canceling the debate is absolutly ridiculous, if there was ever a time too hear from the presidential nominee about a crysis situation this would be it, i hate listening to the republicans on tv talking about how McCain is so patriotic for suspending the campaign, that is like saying if there is ever a crysis the country should stop functioning as it should.
These debates should go forward, that way the public can actually have an idea of what he actually has planned for teh financial crisis, saying he is going to work on the finacial crisis is like him saying he is taking a break to devolop a cure for cancer, sure it sounds noble, but what the hell does that mean.
No one said anything about canceling the debate.
postponing... there, sorry i didnt mean to totally invalidate my post by using the word cancel instead of postpone.
But what difference would postponing a FOREIGN POLICY debate have on what we know about their views on the financial crisis?
Plus the cure for cancer analogy is DEEPLY flawed; try using an ebola outbreak or some similar contagious disease that might wipe us all out. he is taking a break from bullspit (a campaign) to do his JOB (senate). Obama has chosen politics over country, like he has always done.
Now watch how this play might play out. McCain goes to washington, gets the job done, and because Obama refused to postpone, he shows up and debates anyway. He then kicks his butt because it IS foreign policy, something he knows better than Obama. Obama goes from the childish "I can walk and chew gum at the same time" crap to being able to trip and choke on his gum at the same time.
I'm not so sure that's how it's gonna go -- but if I were mCCain, I would have had it all planned out this way, KNOWING Obama would say what he did, and react the way he did, because it is SOO easy to push his buttons
Gets what job done? I would seriously like to know what he can get done in the week hes on "break." McCain is not an economic expert, he is not going to write a bill. He will only vote on it. Fishermage your ridiculous attempts to defend McCain have very little substance. This is when we need to hear about the candidates, whether its foreign policy or domestic. Debates are crucial in influencing the minds of people and McCain has backed out.
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
Canceling the debate is absolutly ridiculous, if there was ever a time too hear from the presidential nominee about a crysis situation this would be it, i hate listening to the republicans on tv talking about how McCain is so patriotic for suspending the campaign, that is like saying if there is ever a crysis the country should stop functioning as it should.
These debates should go forward, that way the public can actually have an idea of what he actually has planned for teh financial crisis, saying he is going to work on the finacial crisis is like him saying he is taking a break to devolop a cure for cancer, sure it sounds noble, but what the hell does that mean.
No one said anything about canceling the debate.
postponing... there, sorry i didnt mean to totally invalidate my post by using the word cancel instead of postpone.
But what difference would postponing a FOREIGN POLICY debate have on what we know about their views on the financial crisis?
Plus the cure for cancer analogy is DEEPLY flawed; try using an ebola outbreak or some similar contagious disease that might wipe us all out. he is taking a break from bullspit (a campaign) to do his JOB (senate). Obama has chosen politics over country, like he has always done.
Now watch how this play might play out. McCain goes to washington, gets the job done, and because Obama refused to postpone, he shows up and debates anyway. He then kicks his butt because it IS foreign policy, something he knows better than Obama. Obama goes from the childish "I can walk and chew gum at the same time" crap to being able to trip and choke on his gum at the same time.
I'm not so sure that's how it's gonna go -- but if I were mCCain, I would have had it all planned out this way, KNOWING Obama would say what he did, and react the way he did, because it is SOO easy to push his buttons
Gets what job done? I would seriously like to know what he can get done in the week hes on "break." McCain is not an economic expert, he is not going to write a bill. He will only vote on it. Fishermage your ridiculous attempts to defend McCain have very little substance. This is when we need to hear about the candidates, whether its foreign policy or domestic. Debates are crucial in influencing the minds of people and McCain has backed out.
backed out? do you know what he said at all?
he's taking a DAY off, maybe two, to get the republicans to agree. I'm not defending him in the least. I don't even like the guy -- I just think he was smarter politically here than Obama. McCain hasn't backed out of anything -- he asked for a postponement for the sake the the country, and Obama refused for the sake of politics.
McCain will probably be there on Friday, because Obama wouldn't agree to it. The whole thing makes Obama look bad.
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
Not a problem. Go ahead and continue to believe that Bill is all Paulson, and that Bush let it be delivered in that format, with that exact wording, and contrary to the manner any other bill in the history of this country has ever been delivered.
The only documents ever delivered as a "take it or leave it", no room/time for debate is a call for unconditional surrender.
Presidents don't surrender the country, Congress does.
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
Not a problem. Go ahead and continue to believe that Bill is all Paulson, and that Bush let it be delivered in that format, with that exact wording, and contrary to the manner any other bill in the history of this country has ever been delivered.
The only documents ever delivered as a "take it or leave it", no room/time for debate is unconditional surrenders.
So you think it's okay to just makethings up and not provide any evidence? Is this how YOU came to believe? Sorry, that's not very convincing.
Are you a super secret member of the llluminati and they let you post on a gamer forum? What's that about? Unless you've left the reservation and now work against them secretly by...posting on a gamer forum? hmmmm. Fnord.
LOL My Ameriacn answer to that is to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine." and we tell them to back off or we create our own currency. We make this currency the only currency you can pay US taxes with thus giving it value. Just as Abe lincoln once did which utterly terrified them. We create our own credit and we will be out of debt in a few years.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
Not a problem. Go ahead and continue to believe that Bill is all Paulson, and that Bush let it be delivered in that format, with that exact wording, and contrary to the manner any other bill in the history of this country has ever been delivered.
The only documents ever delivered as a "take it or leave it", no room/time for debate is unconditional surrenders.
So you think it's okay to just makethings up and not provide any evidence? Is this how YOU came to believe? Sorry, that's not very convincing.
Are you a super secret member of the llluminati and they let you post on a gamer forum? What's that about? Unless you've left the reservation and now work against them secretly by...posting on a gamer forum? hmmmm. Fnord.
Forget it, just blindly believe that Bush is responsible for that Bill, that it is all a plan for the Secretary of the Treasury under the next administration to amass personal power over the economy. That the Republican agenda is to stick the taxpayers and bail out their buddies, the corporate executives. It's so much simpler that way.
All I have to say is "Thank God!, Mr. McCain is running to Washington to straighten this all out and save the US economy. Save us all. Save the world. " I just can't express my relief enough. The man is putting his campaign to the side and thinking of the people. WHEW........What a guy. Do you think McCain's driving motivation is not votes? The man is running a campaign for the president of the United States. He eats, sleeps and wipes his ass thinking of how he can obtain more votes. Pffft ...... just another move on the chess board. It'll be interesting to how it all pans out. I think he should stick with the scheduled debate.
~Hairysun~
and i think he should he JOB , you know the one he HAS , not the one he wants. He is a senator they have a need , running for president isnt his job , its what he does on the side. Like Obama . So if Obama refuses to do his current JOB what is that telling me he will do on his next job?
Image this interview ...
Interviewer : what did you do on your last job?
Guy : I put out fires.
Interviewer: hmm says here on your resume' that you were a teacher.
Guy: Yeah i didnt really have time to do my job , i just wanted to put out fires hoping they would make me a fireman one day.
Interviewer: so what about your classroom? who watched that?
Guy: Oh some other teachers, I mean i wasnt really needed since the school had like 99 other teachers there whats the need of the extra 1?
yeah ... thats going to go over well with people once this actually sets in what just happened.
Wow .......a teacher/fireman analogy ...... how creative.
McCain being in Washington ....... playing the part of senator .......has nothing to do with him being a senator at this point in time. Nothing. If it was in good faith I might feel something other than pity for the man. For him to come on TV and attempt to "blow smoke up my ass" is insulting.
Anyone that feels it was in good faith also receives my pity. If he can't cast a vote and run a campaign at the same time I really don't know what to say. Ohhh ......that's right his economic expertise is much needed in Washington isn't it. Pffffft ........ Palins economic expertise would be of greater benefit to the bill.
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I do not see anything in this legislation saying that if we do this we will NOT have an economic meltdown. In fact They said they cannot guarantee that of course. All this does is postpone it?
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
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Maybe. Our fate is in our hands. If we don't correct the underlying problem, we will repeat it.
The foreign central banks do not think we are that stupid. They will open up the credit to us if we ratify, and continue selling us our oil and Chinese made products. It will go somewhat back to normalcy, except the American people will be paying for this mistake for at least 50 years. It will be spread out so it doesn't hurt too much. There will probably be future economic wars, they want to know now if we will bend the knee.
The problem comes if we don't ratify. The foreign central banks will take that as an indication that the US is going to default and stick them with the bill. Everyone has seen this coming for awhile, our debt to the OPEC countries and China continues to rise. Rather than be in doubt, they want to know now where we stand as a credit risk. They have been selling off dollars for some time, that is one reason the exchange rate is dropping. They were preparing, we were not. Not ratifying guarantees the meltdown. They are basically putting the gun to our head, and giving us the option to pull the trigger.
Hopefully we will wake up, and not sleep through the next economic war. The problem that I see is that neither McCain nor Obama seem to want to address the underlying problem.
Think of this as you fill up on Kuwaiti oil, and buy Chines made Christmas presents.
All I have to say is "Thank God!, Mr. McCain is running to Washington to straighten this all out and save the US economy. Save us all. Save the world. " I just can't express my relief enough. The man is putting his campaign to the side and thinking of the people. WHEW........What a guy.
Do you think McCain's driving motivation is not votes? The man is running a campaign for the president of the United States. He eats, sleeps and wipes his ass thinking of how he can obtain more votes. Pffft ...... just another move on the chess board. It'll be interesting to how it all pans out.
I think he should stick with the scheduled debate.
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Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
and i think he should he JOB , you know the one he HAS , not the one he wants. He is a senator they have a need , running for president isnt his job , its what he does on the side. Like Obama . So if Obama refuses to do his current JOB what is that telling me he will do on his next job?
Image this interview ...
Interviewer : what did you do on your last job?
Guy : I put out fires.
Interviewer: hmm says here on your resume' that you were a teacher.
Guy: Yeah i didnt really have time to do my job , i just wanted to put out fires hoping they would make me a fireman one day.
Interviewer: so what about your classroom? who watched that?
Guy: Oh some other teachers, I mean i wasnt really needed since the school had like 99 other teachers there whats the need of the extra 1?
yeah ... thats going to go over well with people once this actually sets in what just happened.
.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
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Why would foreign national banks pay for this in the first place. They already pay for most of the US debt. And you have billions in trade deficit to China.
Basically they want to keep us so far in debt that we could never break free as we once did in the past. They want to make sure we are never able to do that again , because it would mean a collapse of the world banks.
Who is they.
The international bankers that already own all of the world banks.
fnord.
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you know i still have 2 complete sets of that game ....
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Honestly I say F em all. I say the US Government should claim they are Bankrupt and let them try and come and collect the money.
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China holds most of the US debt. They have no interest to see the US in debt.
The only reason the US is in debt is because it chose to be. Billions of US assest and debts are in chinese hands.
The only reason China is not selling those is because it would mean every american would be on the street the next day, your dollar would completely collapse and no international bank would be able to bail the US out.
China doesn't want to see this happen, at least not uncontrolled, because it would mean a huge increase in inflation in chinese currency. They are controlling it right now and the curreny is kept down until it's even and people are used to the new values.
But don't be mistaken, China holds the US on a few strings, if they wanted to cut the strings they would have done so.
They are all connected. It would have a domino effect.
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No one said anything about canceling the debate.
postponing... there, sorry i didnt mean to totally invalidate my post by using the word cancel instead of postpone.
But what difference would postponing a FOREIGN POLICY debate have on what we know about their views on the financial crisis?
Plus the cure for cancer analogy is DEEPLY flawed; try using an ebola outbreak or some similar contagious disease that might wipe us all out. he is taking a break from bullspit (a campaign) to do his JOB (senate). Obama has chosen politics over country, like he has always done.
Now watch how this play might play out. McCain goes to washington, gets the job done, and because Obama refused to postpone, he shows up and debates anyway. He then kicks his butt because it IS foreign policy, something he knows better than Obama. Obama goes from the childish "I can walk and chew gum at the same time" crap to being able to trip and choke on his gum at the same time.
I'm not so sure that's how it's gonna go -- but if I were mCCain, I would have had it all planned out this way, KNOWING Obama would say what he did, and react the way he did, because it is SOO easy to push his buttons
Gets what job done? I would seriously like to know what he can get done in the week hes on "break." McCain is not an economic expert, he is not going to write a bill. He will only vote on it. Fishermage your ridiculous attempts to defend McCain have very little substance. This is when we need to hear about the candidates, whether its foreign policy or domestic. Debates are crucial in influencing the minds of people and McCain has backed out.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
No one said anything about canceling the debate.
postponing... there, sorry i didnt mean to totally invalidate my post by using the word cancel instead of postpone.
But what difference would postponing a FOREIGN POLICY debate have on what we know about their views on the financial crisis?
Plus the cure for cancer analogy is DEEPLY flawed; try using an ebola outbreak or some similar contagious disease that might wipe us all out. he is taking a break from bullspit (a campaign) to do his JOB (senate). Obama has chosen politics over country, like he has always done.
Now watch how this play might play out. McCain goes to washington, gets the job done, and because Obama refused to postpone, he shows up and debates anyway. He then kicks his butt because it IS foreign policy, something he knows better than Obama. Obama goes from the childish "I can walk and chew gum at the same time" crap to being able to trip and choke on his gum at the same time.
I'm not so sure that's how it's gonna go -- but if I were mCCain, I would have had it all planned out this way, KNOWING Obama would say what he did, and react the way he did, because it is SOO easy to push his buttons
Gets what job done? I would seriously like to know what he can get done in the week hes on "break." McCain is not an economic expert, he is not going to write a bill. He will only vote on it. Fishermage your ridiculous attempts to defend McCain have very little substance. This is when we need to hear about the candidates, whether its foreign policy or domestic. Debates are crucial in influencing the minds of people and McCain has backed out.
backed out? do you know what he said at all?
he's taking a DAY off, maybe two, to get the republicans to agree. I'm not defending him in the least. I don't even like the guy -- I just think he was smarter politically here than Obama. McCain hasn't backed out of anything -- he asked for a postponement for the sake the the country, and Obama refused for the sake of politics.
McCain will probably be there on Friday, because Obama wouldn't agree to it. The whole thing makes Obama look bad.
Watch and learn, That is all I can say
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Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
fishermage.blogspot.com
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
Not a problem. Go ahead and continue to believe that Bill is all Paulson, and that Bush let it be delivered in that format, with that exact wording, and contrary to the manner any other bill in the history of this country has ever been delivered.
The only documents ever delivered as a "take it or leave it", no room/time for debate is a call for unconditional surrender.
Presidents don't surrender the country, Congress does.
Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
Not a problem. Go ahead and continue to believe that Bill is all Paulson, and that Bush let it be delivered in that format, with that exact wording, and contrary to the manner any other bill in the history of this country has ever been delivered.
The only documents ever delivered as a "take it or leave it", no room/time for debate is unconditional surrenders.
So you think it's okay to just makethings up and not provide any evidence? Is this how YOU came to believe? Sorry, that's not very convincing.
Are you a super secret member of the llluminati and they let you post on a gamer forum? What's that about? Unless you've left the reservation and now work against them secretly by...posting on a gamer forum? hmmmm. Fnord.
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Which is why it will never be told to the American people that way. Americans don't like to lose. This will be painted as a great victory for bi-partisanship, and the end result will be the American taxpayer will pay for this mistake, not the foreign central banks.
In exchange, we get credit, and cheap products.
The alternative is no credit, massive unemployment, economic meltdown. We become just like Russia in the 1990's, and our government will fall.
We lost....
Foiled by the Illuminati once again!
As opposed to your belief that Bush has such unbridled contempt for the Constitution that he approves of his Secretary of the Treasury submitting a bill for ratification that give a future, un-named, Secretary of the Treasury such unbridled power?
That the Bush administration does not believe in free market economics, but in socialist nationalization of private enterprise?
That the Bush administration is politically naive to propose bailing out select American corporation and sticking the American taxpayer with the bill?
That the Bush administration is responsible for that wording?
Man, you sure have a very, very, poor opinion of Bush.
I have never stated what I believe. I am however, waiting for your evidence for yours.
My evidence? My evidence is that bill itself. It was never written with the US Constitution, Seperation of Powers, passage by the US Congress, in mind.
It violates every legislative process that has ever been taken in this country. No US politican would ever propose such a bill, in such a manner. No US President would ever let his Secretary of the Treasury propose such a bill, in such a manner. That bill was never written in Washington, was never written by an American politician, and was never written with a knowledge of how bills are presented to Congress.
That bill is unprecidented in the history of this country. It is outrageous, and Congress and the American people know that. It is also a timed ultimatum, delay and debate are being stifled. That bill is loathed by both Democrats and Republicans. It is loathed by Americans. But it must be passed.
Only a foreign government could issue such a piece of crap as that and order it delivered to the US Congress for ratification. Follow the cash, who benefits from that bill? Why are certain corporations bailed out, and certain corporations allowed to fail? Who decides? Who benefits? Who are the investors?
That Bill is an ultimatum. It place the American taxpayer on the line hook, line, and sinker for every single one of those bad mortgages, defaulted student loans, and credit cards. It relieves the foreign central banks of any anxiety over collecting their loans. Acceptance is unconditional surrender. But acceptance allows us a better starting position to prepare for the next economic war.
You want to be a sheeple and play within the rules, fine, go ahead and do so. Meekly believe what you want. It's a tough dog eat dog world out there. We were just had.....
I I don't believe anything -- least of all in the shapeshifting reptilians from the fourth dimension that you seem to believe in.
Sure wish you could provide evidence though...I want to believe...but YOU won't help me. Fnord.
Not a problem. Go ahead and continue to believe that Bill is all Paulson, and that Bush let it be delivered in that format, with that exact wording, and contrary to the manner any other bill in the history of this country has ever been delivered.
The only documents ever delivered as a "take it or leave it", no room/time for debate is unconditional surrenders.
So you think it's okay to just makethings up and not provide any evidence? Is this how YOU came to believe? Sorry, that's not very convincing.
Are you a super secret member of the llluminati and they let you post on a gamer forum? What's that about? Unless you've left the reservation and now work against them secretly by...posting on a gamer forum? hmmmm. Fnord.
Forget it, just blindly believe that Bush is responsible for that Bill, that it is all a plan for the Secretary of the Treasury under the next administration to amass personal power over the economy. That the Republican agenda is to stick the taxpayers and bail out their buddies, the corporate executives. It's so much simpler that way.
Ignorance is strength.
I think it's clear what's happening here. McCain is shopping for a new economics adviser and they all seem to be on capitol hill at the moment.
and i think he should he JOB , you know the one he HAS , not the one he wants. He is a senator they have a need , running for president isnt his job , its what he does on the side. Like Obama . So if Obama refuses to do his current JOB what is that telling me he will do on his next job?
Image this interview ...
Interviewer : what did you do on your last job?
Guy : I put out fires.
Interviewer: hmm says here on your resume' that you were a teacher.
Guy: Yeah i didnt really have time to do my job , i just wanted to put out fires hoping they would make me a fireman one day.
Interviewer: so what about your classroom? who watched that?
Guy: Oh some other teachers, I mean i wasnt really needed since the school had like 99 other teachers there whats the need of the extra 1?
yeah ... thats going to go over well with people once this actually sets in what just happened.
Wow .......a teacher/fireman analogy ...... how creative.
McCain being in Washington ....... playing the part of senator .......has nothing to do with him being a senator at this point in time. Nothing. If it was in good faith I might feel something other than pity for the man. For him to come on TV and attempt to "blow smoke up my ass" is insulting.
Anyone that feels it was in good faith also receives my pity. If he can't cast a vote and run a campaign at the same time I really don't know what to say. Ohhh ......that's right his economic expertise is much needed in Washington isn't it. Pffffft ........ Palins economic expertise would be of greater benefit to the bill.
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