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Why would anybody want this game to fail?

ihatenoobs01ihatenoobs01 Member Posts: 71

I see threads on other sections of the website as well as on other forums of people who want darkfall to fail. Why is this?

I could only think of positives from darkfall. People who enjoy sandbox mmos could play a type of game they havn't been able to enjoy for a while, and people who have never experienced a sandbox mmo can try it out.

-Core 3 "Its the Pwn!"

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  • RollotamasiRollotamasi Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 898

    You must ask yourself a question grasshopper.  Is it that people want it to fail or is it that people have been so let down over the years that the just expect it to fail.  To VERY different things.

    -Currently looking forward to FFXIV

    -Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda

  • ihatenoobs01ihatenoobs01 Member Posts: 71
    Originally posted by Rollotamasi


    You must ask yourself a question grasshopper.  Is it that people want it to fail or is it that people have been so let down over the years that the just expect it to fail.  To VERY different things.



     

    so many possibilities

    -Core 3 "Its the Pwn!"

  • i think the OP was trying to point out that people generally feel a need to be right - it creates a comfortable position for them to be in even if they know sub-consciously they are wrong. Many people will hate on darkfalls principles as a game even though they may not actually find anything wrong with it just so their game is "better".

     

    ... sorry for the tangent.

  • Blazer6992Blazer6992 Member UncommonPosts: 643

      Aparently you haven't seen any footage of Darkfall. Not only is it set in the same time frame as most MMO's currently out there. But it has the worst graphics. I had better graphics on my Atari 2600.

     

  • link35link35 Member Posts: 133

    You know, flat out lies and hating will make you lose the little credibility you have on this forum, DF's graphics are not bad you probably watched the youtube version or something and you are truly a shallow gamer if you think graphics>gameplay and if DF is what it promises to be it will have the most awesome gameplay ever

  • wolfmannwolfmann Member Posts: 1,159

    I wouldn't....

    Why? Cuz it would get all the "FFA PVP  W00tastic!!!!" outta my hair.

    Then maybe we could get someone to make a sandboxgame NOT run by griefers.

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  • GundamAceGundamAce Member Posts: 91

    I don't think anyone really wants any game to fail.  I have noticed that a lot of people here enjoy a good arguement and the long time devotees of Darkfall are easy to get a rise out of.

  • Revenant007Revenant007 Member Posts: 54

    Woot! FFA PVP FTW!!1!!!1!

    I'm gonna grief me some carebears!!

    I hope this game makes it. I dont understand what kind of bitter and twisted individual would actively hope for a game to fail. Unless they have some kind of personal vendetta against the developers or something.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    For the most part, it isnt that people want the game to fail per say.

    Many people are just tired of some of the actions that the Darkfall fans have done in the last few years here.  Having the entire forumfall forums create memberships here and then several alts to vote "ones" in all the upcoming games isn't exactly a mature thing to do. Nothing wrong with creating memberships to hype your game....but its bad form and childish to lower the other games.  People here can see right through that.  Those actions alone is enough for people to lash out against the fanbase of the game.

    That and many people are just naturally optmistic. Not many game companies takes 7 years to develope an MMO. Seven years in computer years is a long time and because of this many people are just "suspicious."

    Nothing to do with the game itself.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • RedMonsterRedMonster Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by Blazer6992


      Aparently you haven't seen any footage of Darkfall. Not only is it set in the same time frame as most MMO's currently out there. But it has the worst graphics. I had better graphics on my Atari 2600.
     

     

    Haha, you're so cool.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    Why? because of the rabid fantatics. Darkfall could be a good game, if it had a good community behind, but it doesn't. It has the worst community I have seen ever. And I have seen many.

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Well the way I see it there are four possible reasons:

     

    1. The "Vaporware" Crowd... These are people that have been crying "Vaporware" for so long that to admit it might be a good game at this point would be admitting defeat. So now they have switched to "It's gonna suck" just so they can save face for as long as possible.
    2. The Class Based Linear Cheerleader... These are people who are into the "flavor of the month" theme park MMO and the fact that something different that may be enjoyable is about to release scares the hell out of them. So they attack it out of fear of what it may become.
    3. The Anti-PvP Crowd... These people just hate PvP and people that enjoy PvP so they attack the game out of there misplaced hatred for that guy who ganked them all those years ago during there first PvP experience.
    4. The Standard Forum Troll... This is someone who sees a game that others are bashing so they jump in because in some warped way they think it makes them seem cool.

     

    I think you'll find everyone who bashes Darkfall fits neatly into one of these four categories.

     

    Bren

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  • SirspongySirspongy Member Posts: 66
    Originally posted by altairzq


    Why? because of the rabid fantatics. Darkfall could be a good game, if it had a good community behind, but it doesn't. It has the worst community I have seen ever. And I have seen many.

     

    The community was not like that originally. It has developed into a poor community over the years because of the negative responses directed at the game. The haters did not realize that the developers just want to get the game right. Also I believe the development team is pretty small, if you compare it to a lot of other MMO's pre-release teams.

    And personally I do not think you can have "Rabid Fanatics" withough having the complete polar opposite "Hater Fanatics".

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by wolfmann


    I wouldn't....
    Why? Cuz it would get all the "FFA PVP  W00tastic!!!!" outta my hair.
    Then maybe we could get someone to make a sandboxgame NOT run by griefers.

     

    Don't write off a game that hasn't even come out yet. There are plenty of systems in place to make life for greifers very difficult.

  • wolfmannwolfmann Member Posts: 1,159
    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by wolfmann


    I wouldn't....
    Why? Cuz it would get all the "FFA PVP  W00tastic!!!!" outta my hair.
    Then maybe we could get someone to make a sandboxgame NOT run by griefers.

     

    Don't write off a game that hasn't even come out yet. There are plenty of systems in place to make life for greifers very difficult.

     

    But any such systems also takes the FFA PvP outta..eeh.. FFA PvP ;)

    wich is why I hope Darkfall makes it, so the FFa PvP crowd DO get a place to call home(and maybe convert some of them to sandboxers along the way).

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  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by wolfmann

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by wolfmann


    I wouldn't....
    Why? Cuz it would get all the "FFA PVP  W00tastic!!!!" outta my hair.
    Then maybe we could get someone to make a sandboxgame NOT run by griefers.

     

    Don't write off a game that hasn't even come out yet. There are plenty of systems in place to make life for greifers very difficult.

     

    But any such systems also takes the FFA PvP outta..eeh.. FFA PvP ;)

    wich is why I hope Darkfall makes it, so the FFa PvP crowd DO get a place to call home(and maybe convert some of them to sandboxers along the way).

     

    It does not. You are given the freedom to kill anyone you want. There are just penalties. Risk vs reward, something MMOs have been missing for a long time. Life will be hard for PKers. Very hard.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by Sirspongy

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Why? because of the rabid fantatics. Darkfall could be a good game, if it had a good community behind, but it doesn't. It has the worst community I have seen ever. And I have seen many.

     

    The community was not like that originally. It has developed into a poor community over the years because of the negative responses directed at the game. The haters did not realize that the developers just want to get the game right. Also I believe the development team is pretty small, if you compare it to a lot of other MMO's pre-release teams.

    And personally I do not think you can have "Rabid Fanatics" withough having the complete polar opposite "Hater Fanatics".

    I don't care. I hope they spend the next years killing each other in Darkfall

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Sirspongy

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Why? because of the rabid fantatics. Darkfall could be a good game, if it had a good community behind, but it doesn't. It has the worst community I have seen ever. And I have seen many.

     

    The community was not like that originally. It has developed into a poor community over the years because of the negative responses directed at the game. The haters did not realize that the developers just want to get the game right. Also I believe the development team is pretty small, if you compare it to a lot of other MMO's pre-release teams.

    And personally I do not think you can have "Rabid Fanatics" withough having the complete polar opposite "Hater Fanatics".

    I don't care. I hope they spend the next years killing each other in Darkfall

     

    What a mature and well thought out response. And you have the nerve to critique the behaviour of other people?

  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812
    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by wolfmann

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by wolfmann


    I wouldn't....
    Why? Cuz it would get all the "FFA PVP  W00tastic!!!!" outta my hair.
    Then maybe we could get someone to make a sandboxgame NOT run by griefers.

     

    Don't write off a game that hasn't even come out yet. There are plenty of systems in place to make life for greifers very difficult.

     

    But any such systems also takes the FFA PvP outta..eeh.. FFA PvP ;)

    wich is why I hope Darkfall makes it, so the FFa PvP crowd DO get a place to call home(and maybe convert some of them to sandboxers along the way).

     

    It does not. You are given the freedom to kill anyone you want. There are just penalties. Risk vs reward, something MMOs have been missing for a long time. Life will be hard for PKers. Very hard.

     

    We'll see how -hard- life will be for PKers, eh? I've yet to see any indication that Aventurine has a patent solution to the ganking problem that can't be circumvented by people who want to be asses.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775
    Originally posted by singsofdeath

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by wolfmann

    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by wolfmann


    I wouldn't....
    Why? Cuz it would get all the "FFA PVP  W00tastic!!!!" outta my hair.
    Then maybe we could get someone to make a sandboxgame NOT run by griefers.

     

    Don't write off a game that hasn't even come out yet. There are plenty of systems in place to make life for greifers very difficult.

     

    But any such systems also takes the FFA PvP outta..eeh.. FFA PvP ;)

    wich is why I hope Darkfall makes it, so the FFa PvP crowd DO get a place to call home(and maybe convert some of them to sandboxers along the way).

     

    It does not. You are given the freedom to kill anyone you want. There are just penalties. Risk vs reward, something MMOs have been missing for a long time. Life will be hard for PKers. Very hard.

     

    We'll see how -hard- life will be for PKers, eh? I've yet to see any indication that Aventurine has a patent solution to the ganking problem that can't be circumvented by people who want to be asses.



     

    The thing is people that enjoy this style of MMO don't want the Devs to stop the pk'rs. Pkr = Player Killer by the way which is essential for PvP ......... . As far as Griefers go in DarkFall it will be the same as UO more than likely there will be some but there's risk involved for them to grief. There are plenty of reasons to PK an enemy race and plenty of penalties to pk a friendly race which will limit the griefing of friendlies a bit. All in all I like the setup better than any other I know about.

  • ThatimThatim Member Posts: 240

    The community is the most rudest ever.

     

     

     

    They don't have absolutly no right to be like that, but they still are. Although I agree with this, I don't want Darfall to fail. As a matter of facts, I just don't care about the game at all.

  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812
    Originally posted by GrayGhost79




     
    The thing is people that enjoy this style of MMO don't want the Devs to stop the pk'rs. Pkr = Player Killer by the way which is essential for PvP ......... . As far as Griefers go in DarkFall it will be the same as UO more than likely there will be some but there's risk involved for them to grief. There are plenty of reasons to PK an enemy race and plenty of penalties to pk a friendly race which will limit the griefing of friendlies a bit. All in all I like the setup better than any other I know about.

     

    OK, my mistake, I misphrased that. I am not talking about the PKers in the sense of the word. I meant the gankers/griefers. Insert that in my question instead of PK. Sorry for the confusion. ^_^

  • mo0rbidmo0rbid Member Posts: 363

     I want WAR to fail. Why? because I spent a lot of time in the beta and Mythic has nothing going for them.

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  • KhaelSUNKhaelSUN Member Posts: 394

    It's a nervous twitch they have developed to call "vaporware" on DF, like this comic explains quite good:

    http://dimfall.blogspot.com/search/label/012

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  • MahloMahlo Member UncommonPosts: 814

    A reaction to the blind-faith fanboyism?

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