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Two simple changes Mythic needs to make URGENTLY!

1. Turn friendly collision detection off because it is very annoying constantly tripping over team mates and doesn't work in a mmorpg, specially in RVR when you have giant crowds of people.



2. Turn autofacing off because is it sooo hard to ask for people to manually face their target?

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  • RedwoodSapRedwoodSap Member Posts: 1,235

    1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server

    2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

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  • VPgearchinVPgearchin Member Posts: 168

    1. ITEM linking cuz you know i want to show off MAI P3RPLZ!

     

    2. instant death cuz you know that makes an awesome game.

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  • GiggetGigget Member Posts: 129

     The friendly collison only applies in RvR/Scenario settings.  It's realistic isn't it?  Or are you not the type that complains that bows in games have no strings?  The collision can be used tactically -- did you know that?

     

    And i can't believe you consider these urgent when there are more urgent bugs and fixes that need to be taken care of.

  • KilmarKilmar Member UncommonPosts: 844

    1. disable soloing

    2. enable grouping

  • arrisbarrisb Member UncommonPosts: 194

    Remove instancing?

    There is hardly any in the game apart from the scenarios....

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566
    Originally posted by RedwoodSap


    1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server
    2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

     

    Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

    This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.

  • PapaLazarouPapaLazarou Member Posts: 502
    Originally posted by Gigget


     The friendly collison only applies in RvR/Scenario settings.  It's realistic isn't it?  Or are you not the type that complains that bows in games have no strings?  The collision can be used tactically -- did you know that?
     
    And i can't believe you consider these urgent when there are more urgent bugs and fixes that need to be taken care of.



     

    They are urgent because both of these ruin PVP and thats the main focus of the game.



    Having friendly collision serves no purpose but to be annoying and tbh you'll still have collision on for the enemy so you can do the protect casters thing by blocking them. Not that anyone ever does this because theres no point as ranged will just get em anyways.

  • BlurrBlurr Member UncommonPosts: 2,155

    Actually the friendly collision detection helps keep a sense of tactics in the game. This way melee dps can't run through the tanks to strike at you. Tanks actually have a feel of being these big hulking brutes rather than a pretty art that doesn't matter much.

    The autofacing stops the game from turning into a game of who can circlestrafe best. Look at WoW pvp, two people run in circles until one of them falls over. That's not fun, that's a win button for whoever's using a faster mouse.

    "Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000

  • PapaLazarouPapaLazarou Member Posts: 502
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Originally posted by RedwoodSap


    1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server
    2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

     

    Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

    This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.



     

    They do need to get rid of scenarios because they make RVR underpopulated.

  • GiggetGigget Member Posts: 129
    Originally posted by PapaLazarou

    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Originally posted by RedwoodSap


    1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server
    2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

     

    Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

    This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.



     

    They do need to get rid of scenarios because they make RVR underpopulated.

     

    What?  OMG!  what a horrible idea.

     

  • RaztorRaztor Member Posts: 670

    1. New social pannel is needed

     

    2. Encourage players to speak, nothing more depressing than playing an MMO where no one talks to eachother, game just feels totally dead.

  • PapaLazarouPapaLazarou Member Posts: 502
    Originally posted by Blurr


    Actually the friendly collision detection helps keep a sense of tactics in the game. This way melee dps can't run through the tanks to strike at you. Tanks actually have a feel of being these big hulking brutes rather than a pretty art that doesn't matter much.
    The autofacing stops the game from turning into a game of who can circlestrafe best. Look at WoW pvp, two people run in circles until one of them falls over. That's not fun, that's a win button for whoever's using a faster mouse.



     

    Ok firstly thats not friendly collision you're talking about thats the enemy and secondly only rogues circestrafe and its a good tactic which the only people who bitch about it are the ones who have no skill in PVP anyways.



    The faster mouse thing? lol this ain't fucking counter strike you can use a 90's mouse and still keep up because you're only turning to face your enemy.

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566
    Originally posted by PapaLazarou

    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Originally posted by RedwoodSap


    1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server
    2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

     

    Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

    This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.



     

    They do need to get rid of scenarios because they make RVR underpopulated.

     

    Hmmppf. As I speak for me and me guildies; we prefer RvR any time of the day but they are both fun. Server pops should rise a little more, that is what.

    Ohw, some of us might be powerleveling and have fewer folks to RvR with in their tier which is perfectly understandable.

    Can't wait to see the madhouse when most of us are 40 and fighting for tier 4 however.

  • GilcroixGilcroix Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Originally posted by PapaLazarou



    2. Turn autofacing off because is it sooo hard to ask for people to manually face their target?



     

    If your playing a WP or DoK , yes it would be much harder. These 2 classes are the hardest to play imo and get a lot of flames for not healing enough. You wouldn't get healed at all if they also had to worry about facing while someone danced around them.

    Also like bunny hopping, i find it looks really stupid in the game when someone dances an irish jig around you while swinging a sword. So either way I'd never vote to change this.

  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501
    Originally posted by RedwoodSap


    1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server
    2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer



     

    1. what instancing? There is no instancing in this game! you can meet and see everyone playing on your server already!

    2. what about no? bad death penalty and game based on massive fighting do not mix together.

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • BlurrBlurr Member UncommonPosts: 2,155


    Originally posted by PapaLazarou

    Ok firstly thats not friendly collision you're talking about thats the enemy and secondly only rogues circestrafe and its a good tactic which the only people who bitch about it are the ones who have no skill in PVP anyways.

    The faster mouse thing? lol this ain't fucking counter strike you can use a 90's mouse and still keep up because you're only turning to face your enemy.


    <Mod edit>, that IS friendly collision detection when your own team blocks you. It means you can't run back and forth through your own tanks. Can you imagine the people that would complain about being hit through tanks by melee dps? Wake up.

    And if you think rogues are the only ones who circlestrafe, you've obviously never done any pvp. Go play a few pvp matches in WAR or WoW and try to learn something about what you're complaining about.

    Third point, surprise, some people actually play this game on laptops, without a mouse. Sorry to burst your bubble, but all mice are also not created equal. No trackball or mini-mouse can compare to a 5000dpi laser mouse. In games like WoW if you can turn faster than your opponent, you can keep your front to them and their back to you. This gives you a huge advantage. In war, all that running in circles doesn't mean anything. Position on the battlefield actually matters.

    <Mod edit>

    "Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000

  • BlurrBlurr Member UncommonPosts: 2,155

    Also, if you think RvR is underpopulated people must just be avoiding you. Me and a buddy wandered to check out a keep last night only to find about 20 Destruction and 35 Order fighting over it. We had battering rams out, avoiding boiling oil, the works.

    Now if only people would learn not to bunch up on the stairs.

    "Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000

  • theratmonkeytheratmonkey Member Posts: 684

    1.) Make a damn general chat. Sure, you don't want gold spammers. I get them anyway.

    2.) Make a damn general chat.

     

    Groovy.

  • xenogiasxenogias Member Posts: 1,926
    Originally posted by PapaLazarou


    1. Turn friendly collision detection off because it is very annoying constantly tripping over team mates and doesn't work in a mmorpg, specially in RVR when you have giant crowds of people.



    2. Turn autofacing off because is it sooo hard to ask for people to manually face their target?



     

    1. Collision detection is fine. That said if they did turn it off for friendly people I wouldnt care either.

    2. Why should you care? Really.....why should you care? doesnt matter if a person does it manually or not. It helps the not so great players compete though its a verry minor help and it helps for thoes with lag.

     

    Neither one of these are urgent and neither effect RvR the way you want people to believe it does. An urgent fix would be for healers to stop getting the fkn "Invalid Target" crap half the time when they are trying to heal someone.

  • madnagashmadnagash Member Posts: 33

    Enemy and Group collision are great and necessary mechanics! Leave it alone! It adds tactical depth to the game. We just need to get used to it!

  • arrisbarrisb Member UncommonPosts: 194
    Originally posted by theratmonkey


    1.) Make a damn general chat. Sure, you don't want gold spammers. I get them anyway.
    2.) Make a damn general chat.
     

     

    Try /1 mate

  • MoodahMoodah Member Posts: 181

    Collision is fine as it is ... if collision is something that ruins your gameplay, you have about a million other games out there that have no collision. It makes people think about positioning, which is a great tactical thing. You can't just run through tanks, and that counts for both friend and enemy - or perhaps you want to be able to hide behind tanks where opponents can't reach you but you can still reach them?

     

  • tanglewebtangleweb Member Posts: 6

    Collision detect is what puts pvp in WAR miles ahead of most of the competition. In contrast to WoW, for instance, pvp in WAR requires an awarness of your position on the battlefield in relation to the rest of your teammates. It changes the whole experience from a fps like click, strafe and spam fest into a strategic battle centred around positioning and teamwork. It is a really refreshing change. It is crucial the collision detect applies to friends and enemies alike for this to work and not be exploitable in cheap ways.

    It sounds as if the OP would like the game to be much more like WoW. There is always the WoTL to try out if that is the pvp you are looking for.

  • RaztorRaztor Member Posts: 670
    Originally posted by arrisb

    Originally posted by theratmonkey


    1.) Make a damn general chat. Sure, you don't want gold spammers. I get them anyway.
    2.) Make a damn general chat.
     

     

    Try /1 mate

     

    Your concept of general chat is as limited as Mythics.

  • CoyoteturkeyCoyoteturkey Member Posts: 102
    Originally posted by Kilmar


    1. disable soloing
    2. enable grouping



     

    You'r are playing Warhammer this is a solo game, if you like grouping. Perhaps FInal Fantasy XI is more your style. I want to play a MMO, to conquer the whole game without being in a group!

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