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Are the ex-WOW players not getting it?
amorone
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I talked to a few people in a party today doing a PQ and was blown away by their conversation. Two of them pretty much said all they do is grind PQs over and over to get influence to get gear and then all they do other than that is sit and wait to get into scenarios so they can get in "some real PVP action". Seriously! They seem so warped/misguided on "best gear = best in PvP and PvP=path to endgame" that is was shocking. I tried to suggest they get into some quests, explore a bit for tome unlocks (which do lead to tome tactics!), etc. but they acted like that a foriegn concept. Then I mention open RvR and it was like I was insane to them. Is this really just an effect of WOW's play mechanics or what? I thought the WOW factor was really just seeing folks pole dancing and bunny hoping in battles, but this goes even further......like missing the whole game!
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Agreed the community is the worst part of the game so far.
Solo mind set is unreal in this game.
Hell people won't even form a party in a PQ when they are all doing the same shit anyway.
It is craziness how everyone seems to think that soloing is this game is the right path.
WAR wasn't designed for solo play, it was designed for large scale team play and warbands.
Oh well.... back to the drawing board I guess.
While I agree that really makes the game more fun - the best moments I've had so far have been open RvR in tier 2 - it's really not very good for leveling at all. I'm not trying to rush through the game.. but atleast stay steady. I'm 21 now.
I haven't found tome unlocks (outside of the RvR ones) that appealing yet. But I do quest/open RvR/sieges/scenario/PQs.
a time machine to go back and delete WoW and a better group UI is what I think we need.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
If WoW wasn't created, and WAR still came out, then WAR would be a completely different game. Truth be dat.
Gte a bloody grip, more peopel from aco, eq2, lotro ddo etc probably play war atm than they play wow. Soe get a bloody grip.. How about asking dont these players get it. Or are all these games immune to criticism? Infact hell does nobody form those games play war? Gte a dman grip. This site has degenrated so far into anarchy and misinformation, its now ok to spew total crpa as fact on this site.
This is such an ignorant statement. How many thousands of people currently playing WAR would have gotten into mmorpgs if WoW had never existed?
If you had said you were level 10 and not rushing, I'd believe you. But 21? Heh.
Seriously though, if all they want to do is do PQ's and Scenarios, let them. Its doable to reach endgame like that. It is however a very dull path to walk (When limiting it like that), but hey, as WoW players they should be used to such agony.
I think the OP's statement was directed to the fact that until WOW came about teamplay, grouping, and the such were much more in play.
WoW brought about the age of leetomgbbqftw and everyone solo grinding to max, BGing for points over teamplay and arena in 2,3 or 5 for gearz.
It is a WoW specific problem as opposed to other games who encourage team play.
WoW encourages solo play and solo mindset.
In essence WoW is to blame for a lot of the way new age players interact with each other.
Agreed more WAR players came from other games NOT wow, but even those players prolly started in wow and have always and only know the solo mentality.
This is such an ignorant statement. How many thousands of people currently playing WAR would have gotten into mmorpgs if WoW had never existed?
How could I know? WoW wasen't really NEEDED. Mmorpg's were doing fine anyway. More than fine actually. What WoW has brought me and many others is only more annoying people to play with and narrow-minded looks upon MMORPG's in general.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
jesus bloody christ this site is just in cloud fairy land. hey while we are at it lets blame blizzard for the world financial crisis and all the banks going bust, hell lets blame blizzard for the iraq war, lets blame them for aoc succking donkey, lets blame them for Warhammer being a singplayer game, lets blame blizzard for Vanguard sucking ass, lets blame blizzard for world hunger, lest blame blizzard for aids.
GET A BLOODY GRIP ON REALITY.
This is such an ignorant statement. How many thousands of people currently playing WAR would have gotten into mmorpgs if WoW had never existed?
How could I know? WoW wasen't really NEEDED. Mmorpg's were doing fine anyway. More than fine actually. What WoW has brought me and many others is only more annoying people to play with and narrow-minded looks upon MMORPG's in general.
It sounds like you are so annoyed with other players that single player games would be more your speed.
This is such an ignorant statement. How many thousands of people currently playing WAR would have gotten into mmorpgs if WoW had never existed?
How could I know? WoW wasen't really NEEDED. Mmorpg's were doing fine anyway. More than fine actually. What WoW has brought me and many others is only more annoying people to play with and narrow-minded looks upon MMORPG's in general.
Newsflash, there was annoying people playing eq, uo, daoc etc. Long before wow ever existed, unless your now saying blizzard actually created annoying peopel in online games?. get a damn grip on reality.
?!? No. I only said the truth. If I was "so annoyed" I would have made a much longer, much more in-depth post in CAPS screaming about how much I disliked the other players. But I made it as short as I possible could. No anger whatsoever input to it.
And then you say that comment, now who's worked up?
Funny how people like you take stuff so seriously anyway. I say something far-fetched as "OMG GET A TIME MACHINE!" and people instantly rush to their arms and starts firin' wildly.
I think you need to spend less time in forums, seriously, feels like you are picking up too much of all the negative energy this forum often spews out
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Of course but WoW was THE bomb that made them spread everywhere. And having WoW as a first MMORPG spoiled many and destroyed their later views on games
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Of course but WoW was THE bomb that made them spread everywhere. And having WoW as a first MMORPG spoiled many and destroyed their later views on games
oh my........................
I've been trying to tell people for a couple years that WoW has created a generation of brainwashed gamers. WoW is the only game they've probably played, and it's had a HEAVY influence on their game views (as if they deserve one since I wouldn't call them "gamers."
I've played with numerous people who refuse to try any other game/mmo. And when they do they usually hate it because "it's not WoW."
Oh well, I've been taking a break from mmos anyway, playing through the Call of Duty series right now. w00t!
Huh WoW is even worst , you solo 1-70 then start the multiplayer part . In WAR at least you play with others from early lvl .
Im getting sick of ppl bashing WAR for retarded stuff .
"I disagree" or "I agree" was the least I'd say you could span. Try to make sence next time before posting, ok?
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Of course but WoW was THE bomb that made them spread everywhere. And having WoW as a first MMORPG spoiled many and destroyed their later views on games
DuraheLL, quit falling for Demz2 attept at baiting you, your falling for it hook line and sinker.
His very poor typing skills, constant bombardment of the phrase "get a grip on reality" are all just a bait for you to fall into so you say something stupid and he reports you and gets you banned.
EVERYONE knows what WoW has done to the MMO community and it's mindset as a whole.
Yes annoying players were in all games, however, UO, EQ, and DAoC were also group games, you did everything in those games as a group or at least in multiples.
WoW is what it is, time can't change it. It did really skew the view on solo vs group play as EVERYTHING in WoW with the exception of end game and 5 man instances can be done solo.
Even BG's require no team effort as your going to get your reward regardless.
Everyone knows this, to say otherwise... you just shouldn't
So quit falling into his trap he knows better, he just wants you to say something stupid.
So your telling me you cant solo in war?? lol Infact you can solo in preety much every mmo game, its a matter of personal choice, you ever heard of it?
jesus bloody christ this site is just in cloud fairy land. hey while we are at it lets blame blizzard for the world financial crisis and all the banks going bust, hell lets blame blizzard for the iraq war, lets blame them for aoc succking donkey, lets blame them for Warhammer being a singplayer game, lets blame blizzard for Vanguard sucking ass, lets blame blizzard for world hunger, lest blame blizzard for aids.
GET A BLOODY GRIP ON REALITY.
Agreed.....the forums on this site are a source of unending entertainment. It's really a laugh-riot!
skydragonren:
Yea...
But I always get the feeling people really ARE serious with stuff like that. So I fall for it without even taking a break to think about it. Well well, I will train, sensei!
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
So your telling me you cant solo in war?? lol Infact you can solo in preety much every mmo game, its a matter of personal choice, you ever heard of it?
LOL yes but no one is doing it because its boring .
In WoW i am FORCED to solo quest till my eye bleed because theres nothng else that give decent XP .
Of course but WoW was THE bomb that made them spread everywhere. And having WoW as a first MMORPG spoiled many and destroyed their later views on games
DuraheLL, quit falling for Demz2 attept at baiting you, your falling for it hook line and sinker.
His very poor typing skills, constant bombardment of the phrase "get a grip on reality" are all just a bait for you to fall into so you say something stupid and he reports you and gets you banned.
EVERYONE knows what WoW has done to the MMO community and it's mindset as a whole.
Yes annoying players were in all games, however, UO, EQ, and DAoC were also group games, you did everything in those games as a group or at least in multiples.
WoW is what it is, time can't change it. It did really skew the view on solo vs group play as EVERYTHING in WoW with the exception of end game and 5 man instances can be done solo.
Even BG's require no team effort as your going to get your reward regardless.
Everyone knows this, to say otherwise... you just shouldn't
So quit falling into his trap he knows better, he just wants you to say something stupid.
take a deep breath, and calm down.
Your saying wow is not a group game?
lets see here
1) Dungeons
2)raids
3)premade BG
4)Arenas
5)Basic grinding with freinds
7)Leving up with frrinds.
8)Opening the gates to AQ was the biggest community effort probably in the history of mmos.
jesus any game can be solo or you can chose to group up, its your decision noone elses. All these games you speak of have these choices.
Well, if you really don't care about PvE, then PQs and Scenarios are the way to go.
PQ/Influence gear is far better than Renown gear earlier on. Scenarios are the way to get XP fast in PvP.
Open RvR is neat and all, but too slow for leveling.
Niccoli