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EndDream · September 2008

Originally posted by Deadm0ney4u

I am not gonna fall for some BS hype again. I will not buy this or anyother MMOs other than a Blizzard product until months after launch After the huge failures that were vanguard, Conan and Warhammer. I do hope Darfall is good but I will not beexcited until it has come out and has been a success.

luckily for you there is talk of a free trial at launch, so you can try it immediatly without worrying!

somonekilwow · September 2008

i can't wait to play this but if it fails the next best thing would be fallen earth

Arkard · September 2008

Originally posted by RDBeast

No i disagree.
I dont think darkfall will ever have a community as bad as WoW. For one thing this game is better for the roleplayers and casuals than a game like wow and people cannot be so elitist when it comes to gear. Ofcourse you will get the loud mouthed pvpers but thats what you get in any sandbox game because it caters to a big range of different gamers.

I must agree the community in WoW at times can bring the game down alot. I guess this is due to the game attracting a younger, immutre player base but its deffintly not everyone. Am looking forward to see how the community of DF turns out, instead of kids screaming meaningless things in the main citys bringing a cheap, run down feel to the game.

Graveblade · September 2008

Well the thing is wow for one was marketed an absolute **** load. Its made to be linear and simple so that it caters to the younger generation who just about have the brain capacity to understand the flashing night elves.

so in theory! It should be more of a mature playerbase in darkfall but nobody knows for sure. hehe

Boen2009 · September 2008

yep! In WoW youre literally led around by the hand from area to area.. quest to quest. Darkfall will take more player skill to advance in, and more player skill to fight in. It will be realistic. In darkfall, your gear and stats dont dodge/hit for you, you acutally have to dodge the swing, and aim accurately. God this is awesome.

this much freedom in a game hasnt occured since UO... and it has even way more freedom than that.

FREEDOM AT LAST!!!!!

Meridion · September 2008

Yea right, you sound all like

"OMG, Dark and Light will be teh best sadnbox evar!!!"

Remember that? Huh? Remember? It was THE next coming of sandbox MMOs. And what happened? A case of _true_ epic fail.

Don't believe it until you've played it. Don't you guys ever grow wise?

M

KhaelSUN · September 2008

why do you post about D&L here - has nothing to do with DF.

I see on your games list that you played D&L - but you only have yourself to thank for not doing any research and believing in that piece of crap.

Meridion · September 2008

Wanted to make clear that this game was exactly as hyped as DF at this amount of information given. I'm just awestruck - people say almost the exact same, emotionally exaggerated things they did when the DnL open beta Settlers of Ganareth was about to be released, hyping game, concept and future to an extent that's ridiculous.

I myself did not preorder or even pay a cent for Dark and Light, I played the beta and again when it was free shortly before it was shut down. But after all, are these all new people that appear or are you actually _again_ investing emotional resources in a game that has nothing released but some gameplay vids and many promises...

Get me right, I don't wanna troll DF, if it releases with the announced features and runs nicely, I will be the first to give it a shot. But as I held it with WAR "It's all crap until I see it live and successful", no more "in advance" support...

M

KhaelSUN · September 2008

Hmm yeah i see where you are coming from..

personally i didnt fall for the D&L hype at all, it was clear to me that game was shit to me...

But DF is different, maybe not at a glance, but when you delve down into all the info available, it becomes clear.

I could probably write down a rant several pages long about the differences between D&L and DF, but fuck that.. just wait and see.

Check the gameplay movie if you havent seen it.
http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=13912

darkfaller1 · September 2008

WoW's success lay primarily in it's on-going lore IMO. People who played the WC3 campaigns (in other words, a crapload of people) would definitely want to continue to the "end" of the story as it were. Say what you like about carebear RPers, but everyone loves a good story.

The cartoonish style of graphics was a big pull in, as well - it was a big difference from the dark "realist" style of FFXI and SWG (WoW's chief competitors at the time of release)

However, Blizzard's epic storyline is just about at an end, and not nearly as potent now that they killed their best character (IMO) Illidan. Arthas is just a generic good-guy-turned-bad-guy.

And the cartoonish style has lost a lot of love over the past few years, as has WoW's PvE/grinding-centred system.

Darkfall will bring back the old realism and freedom that people have been starved off in the past 4-5 years.

KhaelSUN · September 2008

have no clue who illidan or arthas is, i never cared about the story much, i play mmmorpgs mostly to compete vs other players and char progression. so when i play wow i either play bg, areana, or roam around looking for people to kill.

So i played wow since there wasnt anything alot better, and because friends played it. And when i got too bored i went back and played a few weeks of darktide or shadowbane.

that basicly describes last 5 years of mmorpgs for me

But ok player made story is different, like the story of darktide, how different guilds owned different territories, players became heroes, betrayals, and such. Thats interesting to me, but the lore of the game is not important to me Maybe in DF if the gods and demigods roam around it will be interesting heh.

Graveblade · September 2008

Well thats what you get with WoW especially. People who go and play it just as a competative game and to gain gear and power. Alot of people nowadays do not actually play it as an RPG, as a virtual world where your character creates his own destiny (your destiny is restricted a shit load in a themepark game such as wow though).

I think in Darkfall the rpg element will be alot better, save alot of the pvpers especially the younger kids who generally like to not play the character as a person within a world but more of a character as an extension of themselves thus not caring about ruining any immersive rpg experience because they dont have any sense of rp in them. lol

ste2000 · September 2008

Originally posted by Meridion

Wanted to make clear that this game was exactly as hyped as DF at this amount of information given. I'm just awestruck - people say almost the exact same, emotionally exaggerated things they did when the DnL open beta Settlers of Ganareth was about to be released, hyping game, concept and future to an extent that's ridiculous.
I myself did not preorder or even pay a cent for Dark and Light, I played the beta and again when it was free shortly before it was shut down. But after all, are these all new people that appear or are you actually _again_ investing emotional resources in a game that has nothing released but some gameplay vids and many promises...
Get me right, I don't wanna troll DF, if it releases with the announced features and runs nicely, I will be the first to give it a shot. But as I held it with WAR "It's all crap until I see it live and successful", no more "in advance" support...

M

DF is different, Aventurine will offer a trial before you buy.................as opposed as buy before you get an Alpha version, like happened for D&L.

You can see that there is a huge difference.

IF Darkfall is shit people won't buy it, because they will have chance to test it.

It doesn t look they are trying to scam anyone, unlike the D&L folks.

Graveblade · September 2008

I dont know about you but i wasnt drawn in by D&L much when i heard about it. They tryed marketing the fact it had a huge land mass to get people to buy it. Now i knew this could be flawed as there could potentially be alot of open space with nothing to do especially because the bigger the land the more people you need to fill it for it to be more enjoyable, i didnt think it had a big enough following to do this in the first place anyway. Some of the main features in darkfall are very different to D&L anyway such a combat, how skills/classes are handled, crafting and many small features. We will just have to see how things turn out. I dont think theres any reason to put this game down, lets just see how it progresses and give it a try when it comes out.

pewtpewt · October 2008

DF 08!!!

WOOOOOOHH

DARKFALL 08. YES WE CAN

pewtpewt · October 2008

Originally posted by darkfaller1

WoW's success lay primarily in it's on-going lore IMO. People who played the WC3 campaigns (in other words, a crapload of people) would definitely want to continue to the "end" of the story as it were. Say what you like about carebear RPers, but everyone loves a good story.
The cartoonish style of graphics was a big pull in, as well - it was a big difference from the dark "realist" style of FFXI and SWG (WoW's chief competitors at the time of release)
However, Blizzard's epic storyline is just about at an end, and not nearly as potent now that they killed their best character (IMO) Illidan. Arthas is just a generic good-guy-turned-bad-guy.
And the cartoonish style has lost a lot of love over the past few years, as has WoW's PvE/grinding-centred system.
Darkfall will bring back the old realism and freedom that people have been starved off in the past 4-5 years.

imo, WoW killed WC3's great lore. After beating TFT as well, im seriously pissed at blizztard.

Retired · October 2008

sandbox... how about gameplay. the game looks horrible at current state. if it's taking this long to create the garbage they showed in that trailer then... dont expect a solid game.

flakmonky · October 2008

Originally posted by medafor

sandbox... how about gameplay. the game looks horrible at current state. if it's taking this long to create the garbage they showed in that trailer then... dont expect a solid game.

No you please explain: how was what they showed in the video garbage?

(So help me if he comes back with graphics...)

pewtpewt · October 2008

i find it interesting that all of the "hard-core" members (rank) are complete idiots and probably enjoy WoW, etc.

flakmonky · October 2008

pewtpewt, stop baiting the trolls.

Retired · October 2008

Originally posted by flakmonky

Originally posted by medafor

sandbox... how about gameplay. the game looks horrible at current state. if it's taking this long to create the garbage they showed in that trailer then... dont expect a solid game.

No you please explain: how was what they showed in the video garbage?

(So help me if he comes back with graphics...)

the whole presentation was awful.

Retired · October 2008

Originally posted by ganbee

Hey if darkfall fails will any of you feel bad? Made buy and indie company for 8 years? This is non-since and If it does not get 300,000 subs so who cares! I will wait and see what happens, because this the most original game since the inception of WOW, I have scene. Full sandbox(no linear)! Give me bug's, give me lag, BUT give me freedom! There is your answer tiered of clones and graphics with no since of game play.

darkfall = vanguard 2

Aragon100 · October 2008

Originally posted by medafor

Originally posted by flakmonky

Originally posted by medafor

sandbox... how about gameplay. the game looks horrible at current state. if it's taking this long to create the garbage they showed in that trailer then... dont expect a solid game.

No you please explain: how was what they showed in the video garbage?

(So help me if he comes back with graphics...)

the whole presentation was awful.

It was just perfect. Best gameplay video i seen so far.

Graphics already been proved very good in earlier videos like this short one called deathpig.

http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/Videos/darkfall_deathpig.jpg.html

Only 3 mb to download, check it out.

flakmonky · October 2008

Originally posted by medafor

the whole presentation was awful.

Presentation huh...

So I'm guessing you missed the fact that it was actual in-game footage of real tests of the games mechanics?

musicmann · October 2008

Originally posted by somonekilwow

i can't wait to play this but if it fails the next best thing would be fallen earth

Don't be so sure with this line of thinking.

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