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Saw it coming a year ago: 1000 desto vs 10 order
Proserpine
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www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/146974/page/1
It certainly wasn't hard to figure out. Every dev podcast/interview/post wouldn't shut up about destruction and most preview articles were the same. Every 'what class will you be' poll showed destruction waaaaaay ahead.
And here we are, with almost every server balanced heavily against order. The most recent realm population bonuses to try to correct the problem are a joke.
So flame away. I know the people who rolled destruction (likely fully knowing what was going to happen) are going to be the quickest to get angry and try to defend themselves. We all know the people who are best at PvP gravitate toward destruction and I'm sure they know that tips the scale as it is.
Don't you guys get bored over there? You can take the most fun game in the world -take away the possibility to win (or take away the possibility to lose) and that game gets old real quick.
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I also agree- i thought they should have added the thrid team (realm, faction) right from the start. Who doesn't like a good three-way? muuuuuuuuuuuhahahahahahahahahahaha
i dont understand your temper-tantrum. i play on order and destruction. order is my main and sure destro always owns everything, but thats the fun of it. taking it back. order is the underdog. thats cool. i get more satisfaction when order wins then when im on my destro chars. suck it up, butterball.
It's really not as bad as you are making it out to be. Most servers are fairly balanced, though some do have a good bit more Destruction than Order... though I have seen one that has more Order than Destruction... I believe an RP server.
I only wish this was the issue on my server (badlands), but once you hit t3 on that server its a ghostland for destruction.
Cheers!
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I saw it over two years ago, and in fact the first thread I ever created on these forums raised the question of with only two sides, would there be an imbalance. (I even suspected Destro would be the side of choice)
I got skewered hard by the WARBOIs for making that post, and they assured me Mythic had a plan to alleviate such concerns. (I was also instructed to do my research).
You never forget your first flaming, and sad to say, some of what I feared has come true.
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The realm imbalance doesn't seem as bad on the roleplaying core servers, but I've never had a wait time as order, but that happens to me on the server I have destruction characters on.
But, there's another problem!
Class imbalances!
What I mean is that in scenarios, order often has from zero to two tanks. Destruction typically fields four to eight tanks per scenario, plus as many marauders and witch elves. They then use this imbalance to zerg past order tanks and slaughter any and all healers, then casters one by one. The way the math works out, this strategy is almost impossible to beat with a balanced order contingent.
Something has to be done to make overloading with melee DPS and tanks and overpowering the game's intended mechanics less viable.
I'm not complaining because destruction is winning, or smart enough to use flaws in the class balance and interaction to win, but that soon both sides will be stocked with nothing but tanks and melee DPS, and perhaps some melee healers as well.
I've noticed the problem and im still gonna play destro because i dont really like the look of order, nor do i find their classes that fit my play style appealing. I tried a warrior priest it was cool, but im not to in to healing, tired a swordmaster didnt like the whole stance thing, i dont want to play a caster and dwarves have been and always will be a no for me.
So hate away I play chosen.
I play order cos I like being the underdog and instant scenarios help too :P
Destro does look cooler tho and half the order people look like dildoheads ;x
They do need to fix this for ORVR.
Yep I feel the same way. Order classes just weren't appealing to me. Chaos has all the fun classes and squig herder has the most unique imo based off the first 15 levels for the squiggy.
I like playing monster types anyway .
In order to make money for EA/Mythic changes will be made to help the bottom line. If Destruction has to much then they will be toned down or be forced to go order. If the company does not make the changes they will lose monthly paying customers. Its the Bottom Line folks.
MAGA
volkmar is being owned by order...so sorry..i don't see it
The problem I am seeing on my server is that while order fairs pretty well in scenarios world RvR is well, kinda pointless. When I get home from work order has controlled every t3 keep. We throw together a couple warbands to go take one (So people can use the renown trainer and merchant). We take it usually with about 50 or so people. 30 mins later 300 destro show up and take it right back. Then we do the same thing the next day. I honestly thing destro knows that we just take it so people can use the trainer and merchant and they simply let us do it because they feel sorry for us. Then they take it back.
-Currently looking forward to FFXIV
-Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda
More likely they let you take one so that they can then have fun taking it back and getting the associated rewards :]
"...they feel sorry for us". To funny, maybe they just feel bored as well.
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Where is this taking place at? Order was stomping us last nite. We didn't outnumber them. It was about equal. And they made a good accounting of themselves.
I will agree that the removed classes need to be put back in. I would love to see the Knight put in. Would put me back on the Order side.
I tried the WP and loved it but I was no good in utilising that character to it's fullest potential. The Chosen seemed to fit perfectly with my play style. Tried the Marauder but I couldn't get into that character either.
1000 vs. 10? What pill you taking? Send me some.
Yep I feel the same way. Order classes just weren't appealing to me. Chaos has all the fun classes and squig herder has the most unique imo based off the first 15 levels for the squiggy.
I like playing monster types anyway .
Yep, same here. I love my Witch Elf since I love playing evil little bitches...nothing on the Order side has given me that satisfaction yet, though the Witch Hunter did come close. Maybe I'll roll one again on another server to help them out from time to time.
Yeah, but if the nerf destro or force destro players to play the side they dont want I would recon they are going to loose paying customers as well.
-Currently looking forward to FFXIV
-Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda
So you suggest that they, say.. make any new order character created be forced to be one of the order tank classes, to fight this imbalance? Because like.. there are order tanks, its just a question of someone playing them yes? Blame the players :]
Those ironbreakers are pesky to kill, often enough.
i gurentee you he would not be complaining if it was the other way around, without a shadow of a doubt.
whats the matter, ? can't enjoy a challenge so you bitch about how bad things are for order. lets see. you got so many cool classes as well like the
swordmaster
witch hunter
white lions
shadow warriors
engineer
and then later you get the two other classes for order tha justt look sick,
your complaints about trying to get pity for the order is sorry. im not complaining about the lack of cool classes that the destruction has, lets see
sorcerer
deciple
chosen
and the only other cool one that i cant wait for is the black guard , thats about it and im happy, witsh they add necromancer though ,, but thats just me.
More likely they let you take one so that they can then have fun taking it back and getting the associated rewards :]
Getting rewards by taking it back, yeah, I could see that. However have fun taking it back I doubt. We dont even try to defend it so its not really "fun". Its just pull keep lord, kill keep lord.
-Currently looking forward to FFXIV
-Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda
Just wait for the casuals to come in after release. That'll help balance out the populations. Forum polls don't mean anything because the Horde dominated the WoW Beta forums as well. We all know that the casuals always want to play the Good guys. Oh wait... nevermind. It IS release and Destruction still has the pop imbalance. Judging the way most Destruction play on the RP realm I'm on, they can stay over there as well.... I dun want 'em.
I guess what im trying to say is Mythic is going to do what they think is going to increase monthy subs. ie: the bottom line.
MAGA
You are a dumbass dude only a very few out of like 20 servers are getting bonuses, a lot of servers show the population as either both low or medium
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You have some weird hopes man. Mythic has next to no control over that right now. There not gonna make all the Destro players unhappy to fix a minor scale.
What people are failing to realise is that there can only be so many destro logged in at a time. Us current Destro pretty much have first pick, anyone comes along will more then likey roll order simply because of Que times.
I never roled Destro because I knew they would pwn. I rolled Destro cause there tanks, look like tanks. Order tanks are not "real"tanks unless dwarve (Not a fan of them). I also used to play the tabletop version and had the chaos army.
If they added an actual Human Tank then people would join over there, but no, they chose not to. What they need to is fix the Order to make them appealing, not to take away from destro.
But to assume that Mythic is gonna diminish the destro's in any way is just not gonna happen. And if you think that is gonna ruin the game, again thats not gonna happen. Just because Destro has more players does not mean there all good. I can count on 1 hand how many Destro players are better then the opponents in a scenario, seige and what not.
Enjoy : )
I play both sides. Ive had more losses on order side.
Destruction does unfortunately have a distinct advange. It's no different than Horde owning all in WOW ) at least when i played).
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