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Sen. Obama and Kenyan PM Odinga Connection

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    Originally posted by SioBabble 
    Let me get this straight.
    By mentioning Palin's name (albeit in mocking form) Trigger is a sexist?  The mocking was on her name, not anything else about her!

     

    He was referring to a different thread.

  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    Originally posted by SioBabble
    BTW, a "short form" birth certificate was all I needed to take the oath of office as a commisioned officer in the US Army, get a security clearance, and obtain a passport.

    That's all fine and dandy, but if multiple document analysts asserted yours was a fake, then more proof would have been required, would it have not?

  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803
    Originally posted by Dracus

    Originally posted by SioBabble

    Let me get this straight.
    By mentioning Palin's name (albeit in mocking form) Trigger is a sexist?  The mocking was on her name, not anything else about her!

    And when a person makes an attack against Obama or is a McCain supporter, that person is considered a racist.  So that is why I make that statement. 



    Attack Obama, or vote for McCain: Thou art a Racist.

    Attack Palin, or vote for Obama: Thou art a Sexist.

    I know, rather pathetic because not everyone is a racist or a sexist, but I grow tired of reading of racist remarks here.

     



     

    Um, I've not said this.  Not as a generalization.  True, I've noticed that there are more than a handful of McCain advocates who seem to have as a compnent of their (somewhat reluctant since the primaries) support of him the skin color of his opponent.

    The sad fact is that there are KNOWN instances of McCain supporters being such on the basis of skin color.  It's happened in Lousiana when some guy went nuts and started screaming the N word when he thought someone was trying to stop him from registering to vote by requiring him to come down to the office with ID and fill out the form!

    Trigger said NOTHING sexist at all in his post.  But you immediately jumped on it.

    Frankly, I was once inclined to vote for Hillary.  You know, the woman refered to as "that bitch" In a question to John McCain that he did NOTHING to object to.

    Palin's problem isn't her sexual plumbing.  It's her pointed haid.  My opposition to her is based on her pretty obvious lack of qualification, experience or intellect to fill in for John McCain should he die in office in the now unlikely event he's elected to the Presidency.

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  • DracusDracus Member Posts: 1,449
    Originally posted by Triggger
    are you making this up as you go along. You voted for Obama,bully for you.

    Not at all.  I voted for Obama, because I am ABC (Anyone But Clinton).  Nothing against Hilary Clinton personally, but it is my belief that the Presidency should not be ruled by families; or otherwise a form of modern Monarchy could evolve.

    Then I left the Democratic Party as it is no longer the party it once was.  Yeah...  whoever heard of a Democrat being a Conservative.

    And that is why...

    Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803
    Originally posted by Dekron

    Originally posted by SioBabble
    BTW, a "short form" birth certificate was all I needed to take the oath of office as a commisioned officer in the US Army, get a security clearance, and obtain a passport.

    That's all fine and dandy, but if multiple document analysts asserted yours was a fake, then more proof would have been required, would it have not?



     

    What "document analysts" are these?  The wingtard kerning guys?

    Keep digging that hole, Dekron.  Keep digging.

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  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247
    Originally posted by DailyBuzz

    Originally posted by Dekron


    Because the answer is "yes". You have been indoctrinated as his other supporters and would follow him no matter the atrocities he may, and will, commit. It's not a stab at you, but more of a feeling of sorrow for your loss of free will.

    Wrong. It's because fueling this sort of desperation only encourages it to continue. If proof is provided, I will offer an opinion on that proof. Otherwise, we are speculating for speculation's sake. As previously stated, I am not willing to do that about Obama or McCain.

    I just gotta ask...

     

    If YOU were one that jumped off the couch and yelled that Bush lied about his service record when the suppposed documents (proven fake now, and cost a nat'l anchor his job) that made bush appear to cheat serving in vietnam, then YOU get the hypocrit award.

     

  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803
    Originally posted by Faxxer

    Originally posted by DailyBuzz

    Originally posted by Dekron


    Because the answer is "yes". You have been indoctrinated as his other supporters and would follow him no matter the atrocities he may, and will, commit. It's not a stab at you, but more of a feeling of sorrow for your loss of free will.

    Wrong. It's because fueling this sort of desperation only encourages it to continue. If proof is provided, I will offer an opinion on that proof. Otherwise, we are speculating for speculation's sake. As previously stated, I am not willing to do that about Obama or McCain.

    I just gotta ask...

     

    If YOU were one that jumped off the couch and yelled that Bush lied about his service record when the suppposed documents (proven fake now, and cost a nat'l anchor his job) that made bush appear to cheat serving in vietnam, then YOU get the hypocrit award.

     



     

    Actually, the documents showing Bush electing to avoid Vietnam are authentic.

    The documents concerning his performance of duty in the Texas Air National Guard were not authentic, in the sense that they were not the original documents,  but the content of the documents was authentic, as verified by his commanding officer's secretary.  This is a point that defenders of Bush ignore.  Understandably so. 

    Much of the documentation on his NG time has not been released, or has been scrubbed to remove unfavorable information about hs NG duty.

    There's a great deal of authentic documentation on his time in Alabama.  The documentation on his time in Massacusetts, when he was still in the Guard but failed to ever report for duty while at Harvard for his MBA seems to have vanished.

    Bush has never come clean with his military record.  John Kerry actually provided evaluation reports of his duty in Vietnam, which I found to be very interesting indeed.

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  • DracusDracus Member Posts: 1,449
    Originally posted by SioBabble

    "Um, I've not said this. Not as a generalization. True, I've noticed that there are more than a handful of McCain advocates who seem to have as a compnent of their (somewhat reluctant since the primaries) support of him the skin color of his opponent."

    SioBabble, I like your posting on the SWG forums, so I'm not gunning you down here to let you know.



    "The sad fact is that there are KNOWN instances of McCain supporters being such on the basis of skin color."

    The thing is, is that racism and sexism exist on all sides.  No one side is perfect and clean unfortunately.



    "Trigger said NOTHING sexist at all in his post. But you immediately jumped on it."

    And I would have done nothing had that racist remark been made.  However, since such a remark was made and there was an insult towards Palin, I put up the mirror.

    And that is why...

    Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  • DracusDracus Member Posts: 1,449
    Originally posted by Triggger


    I  am talking about you saying i called you a racist which you have left out of your quote.

    I think we both have miscommunicated  with each other and seeing we are in different countries may have contributed to it.  Unless we want to go back some postings and figure out what we are saying to one another to get at each other even more, I am willing to make a truce and even edit my postings.

    And that is why...

    Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  • DracusDracus Member Posts: 1,449
    Originally posted by Triggger
    The racist remark..'what next they will be putting on white sheets and burning the cross' you accused me of calling you a racist.

    That is part of the misunderstanding.  I know that particular statement was not directed at me; it was "they" for one. 

    So here is the deal, we can go back some posting here and try to figure out how to stick it to each other and justify who is right or how the misunderstanding occurred.  Or drop it, salute, and fight each other once again at a later time?

     


    Edit, and just for any clarification if needed, I have made no reports.


     

    And that is why...

    Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803
    Originally posted by Dracus

    Originally posted by Triggger
    The racist remark..'what next they will be putting on white sheets and burning the cross' you accused me of calling you a racist.

    That is part of the misunderstanding.  I know that particular statement was not directed at me; it was "they" for one. 

    So here is the deal, we can go back some posting here and try to figure out how to stick it to each other and justify who is right or how the misunderstanding occurred.  Or drop it, salute, and fight each other once again at a later time?



     

    My suggestion:

    Duel at dawn at the gates of Ironforge!

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  • DracusDracus Member Posts: 1,449

    Until next time then.

    /salute

    And that is why...

    Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    Originally posted by Dekron

    Originally posted by Rayx0r 
    Then McCain needs to step down as well for being born in Panama.

    I don't think you read it. McCain is a US citizen based upon 8 USC 1401(c), Obama is not.

     

    ya, yer full of it.  You claim to be a non-affiliated only to hide your pure conservative views.  you take in anything pro-mccain that is spoon fed to you and excuse everything negative as being biased from its source

    on the flipside, anything negative toward obama is 100% accurate even when theres the same form of evidence that the McCain camp has given to discredit his negative publicity.

    you have no honor first of all.  if you support someone, support them.  dont play a neutral card.  it makes your faith in your affiliation look water thin.  You cant keep denying numerous allegations against one party while whole heartedly supporting similiar allegations against another without being considered affiliated.

    youre way to biased to be considered an independant, neutral or whatever else it is your trying to convince everyone here that you are. 

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  • xDarcxDarc Member Posts: 211
    Originally posted by bluberryhaze


     obama has the strangest, weirdest, scariest 'baggage' i have ever heard about in a presidential nominee. 
    this is down right scary stuff for a president of my country. 
    but he got the lot of you by the balls.
    he can never do wrong.
    nothing will stop an obama supporter from supporting obama.  
     
     



     

    You know what this is fucking bullshit.  All the the republican scum suckers have been doing for the past month is saying "obama talks to bad people."  They haven't proven him doing one thing wrong.  Not one thing.

    But...

    Obama associates with terrorists, shady businessmen, radical special interst groups, controversial foreign dignitaries...

    GUESS WHAT??? THATS POLITICS YOU F'IN A' HOLES.

    You take what Sarah Palin has done- and that's worse than any conceivable guilt that can be conjured up just by Obama having an ASSOCIATION with someone... like their misdeeds transvex off of them onto Obama somehow in the warped mind of a tired conservative PUPPET.

    Good god piss off.

  • Reaper_EmberReaper_Ember Member Posts: 90

    I've been following this election since the beginning and I have this to say...

    I don't care about political parties. Democrat, Republican... Who really cares? The only people holding on to political extremism are people who can not think for themselves and require a "political alalyst" (Rush Lembauh lmffao) to make decisions for them. People need to quit relying on one party or the other to do the "right thing." Each side brings something positive to the table and also something negative.

    We have to move past such trivial things such as political parties in order to advance this nation.

    Sure, not everyone agrees on every little thing, but thats part of being human. Nobody's ever going to see perfectly eye-to-eye on everything, but we all can agree on one thing. We want this nation to continue to prosper and reach its greatest potential.

    Obama, nice man, good public image, brings new ideas to the table, has a youthful spirit which could make people sway more towards him. However, he lacks the years of experience in office that his opponent has, and his race will be an issue when it comes to threats from racist factions within the US such as the KKK and the Arian Brotherhood.

    McCain, nice man as well, has years of experience to the table, and has plenty of interesting ways to revamp the current policies that work. However, his age is a decisive factor due to America's youth are looking toward someone that can somewhat identify.  Also seems to be following the same flow as Bush's administration when it comes to his policies.

     

    But alas, to my main reason of posting in this topic.... This IS a MMO forum. Politics have no pull here unless they threaten the gaming community. Its like posting a MMO discussion in a political forum. It just doesn't go with the flow in any way. But anyway, from what I noticed, Obama nor McCain have anything against gamers. Not saying anything against your freedom of speech, just figured I'd say something considering that MMO+Politics=OMFG Bush just dropped Pretzel of Choking+1!!!(In other words, its a bad thing)

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