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Mythic sure know how to break things
Frobner
Member Posts: 649
Just been playing few scenarios this morning. All of a sudden there is not a SINGLE healer or SINGLE tank in Order side. AM are just dpsing and soloing and who wants to play the crap order tanks ?
Just came up against a 3 mauraders - 2 tanks - 3 healing dps and one shaman. Guess what happened ?
Mythic just neferd the crap out of the only intresting part of Order side. This was the last straw for me. Its either join the destruction armies dominating ALL servers atm or just stop paying and playing.
I desided to do the latter. I have very little belive in a dev team that can't see the real problems. Problems that one side of the game is crap and boring to play while the other is strong in PVP, intresting classes and looks, fun to play and OFC therefor DOMINATING the whole game.
No thx. GB:
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and i have played SC's with no sorceresses and tanks...
whats the point of this post? its luck of the roll, sometimes you get a good group, sometimes you dont.
Rome wasent built in a day.
give it time.. its been out a month, no game is perfect and balanced imediatly.
Divine
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One less person clogging up game chat with whining. Later.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
or just play on Wolfenburg...
T2 on up Order wins all the time and tends to always be stacked with healers..
P.S. How is your random scenarios lack of healers = a nerf to them anyways? And mythic "breaking" things?
What did they nerf?
I play Order on Sylvania and we won 3/5 scenarios last night... one was with only 1 WP as the healer.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
What did they nerf?
I play Order on Sylvania and we won 3/5 scenarios last night... one was with only 1 WP as the healer.
They nerfed the healing exp so now there are no healers playing or they are trying to dps on the order side. That would be ok if destruction would not have 4 !!!!! strong walkover INTRESTING melee classes while order has crap melee and now squissy dps healers....
No thx.
i think it's more of a by product of todays mmorpg crowd. Healers dont get double the points like they used too, so now, since they cannot excel faster than most, there is no point in doing it since it does not benefit them greatly anymore. I couldn't give 2 **** about the renoun points, i pvp for fun, and death to stunties!
What did they nerf?
I play Order on Sylvania and we won 3/5 scenarios last night... one was with only 1 WP as the healer.
They brought renown for healing down to where it should be. Now all of the healers are pouting in the corner that they no longer get top renown for tossing a few heals out. Now they actually have to WORK to get the renown.
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Its a byproduc of a system that has the DEstruction melee/healer side dominating the game now since they already 3 times as populare cause of REALLY strong mauraders and populare tanking specs of the destruction. The only way to stop the zerg of melee was to outheal their orginal charge and push them back. This is not possible since most ppl on order side are now not healing at all and the WP and the "other" melee class that is supposed to stand up against mauraders is SIMPLY NOT EXISTANT in the game.
What did they nerf?
I play Order on Sylvania and we won 3/5 scenarios last night... one was with only 1 WP as the healer.
They brought renown for healing down to where it should be. Now all of the healers are pouting in the corner that they no longer get top renown for tossing a few heals out. Now they actually have to WORK to get the renown.
Thank goodness.
Maybe now the healers will HEAL. That was my main problem with scenarios.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
What did they nerf?
I play Order on Sylvania and we won 3/5 scenarios last night... one was with only 1 WP as the healer.
They brought renown for healing down to where it should be. Now all of the healers are pouting in the corner that they no longer get top renown for tossing a few heals out. Now they actually have to WORK to get the renown.
Or skip playing cause the DPSers are SOLOING for to STEAL even MORE renown now.
I have both order and destro toons and guess what, about 70% of the scenarios I play have no more than 1 healer. It's totally luck of the draw but to say that because Mythic FIXED a problem with healers and that's why they weren't in scenarios is bad reasoning. I'm in a guild of over 200 people and not 1 of our healers is whining about the fix. They knew it was messed up and they enjoyed it while they could but it's fixed now. They're not quitting their healers because of that. It sounds to me like MMO's may not be a good choice for your gameplay selections. Best of luck to you
same my healers havent said a peep about it. They knew they were getting too many points. And are now fine with the points and no, they havent quit.
All this tells me is that Order are a bunch of spoiled children. Now that Mommy took away the pacifier they are going to crawl back and whine. Seriously, the only thing that changed is healers can't toss heals on people that didn't need it and still received renown from it. You might actually have to heal those that NEED it instead of spamming damage and then throwing out an AoE heal.
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I must have played about 10-15 scenarios yesterday in T2 as a RunePriest and while I do notice the difference in RealmPoints, I'm still doing well. We were brought in line with everyone else and I'm ok with that.
There does seem to be an issue with their change as people have complained of being much lower than everyone else. It seems to be a rare occurance but MJ (on the VNBoards) has already said they would look into it.
kinda funny since I have played mmos for the past 8 years.... lol
You dont fix things by breaking the balance of the game. Mythic created classes and specs thate were unbalanced. THey are not fixing that issue now. THey are doing the EXACT oposide since the melee classes on Order side SUCK (like the melee/healing class compared to Destruction) or the melee class that is supposed to be the counter to Mauraders. Not to mention the tanking specs that BOTH suck on the order side.
ANd you expect this to be balanced when the few intresting classes on Order side were made worthless to play and have now NO chance of lvling up renown at the same pace as the Melee dominating Destro side ? ...
kinda funny since I have played mmos for the past 8 years.... lol
You dont fix things by breaking the balance of the game. Mythic created classes and specs thate were unbalanced. THey are not fixing that issue now. THey are doing the EXACT oposide since the melee classes on Order side SUCK (like the melee/healing class compared to Destruction) or the melee class that is supposed to be the counter to Mauraders. Not to mention the tanking specs that BOTH suck on the order side.
ANd you expect this to be balanced when the few intresting classes on Order side were made worthless to play and have now NO chance of lvling up renown at the same pace as the Melee dominating Destro side ? ...
Yep, no chance in hell to level your renown. You should quit now and never look back.
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All this tells me is that Order are a bunch of spoiled children. Now that Mommy took away the pacifier they are going to crawl back and whine. Seriously, the only thing that changed is healers can't toss heals on people that didn't need it and still received renown from it. You might actually have to heal those that NEED it instead of spamming damage and then throwing out an AoE heal.
So says the Destro scrub. Please the toons on Destro are OP and very little went into Order. My wife is the only healer in most of the Secnarios we play. I tend to see at least 2 healers on Destro premades and at least 2 more random ones. Never mind the fact DoK is damn near impossible to kill without several peeps beating on them. I would change the sig if you want folks to take you seriously.
"War is cruelty. There is no use in refining it. The crueler it is, the sooner it is over."
if you want easy mode, there are servers with +20% renoun/rank bonuses
kinda funny since I have played mmos for the past 8 years.... lol
You dont fix things by breaking the balance of the game. Mythic created classes and specs thate were unbalanced. THey are not fixing that issue now. THey are doing the EXACT oposide since the melee classes on Order side SUCK (like the melee/healing class compared to Destruction) or the melee class that is supposed to be the counter to Mauraders. Not to mention the tanking specs that BOTH suck on the order side.
ANd you expect this to be balanced when the few intresting classes on Order side were made worthless to play and have now NO chance of lvling up renown at the same pace as the Melee dominating Destro side ? ...
Yep, no chance in hell to level your renown. You should quit now and never look back.
And so should all the Order - and you know what - They are exactly doing that. Or rolling destruction like most ppl that realise that you should not bother to play broken, boring and unbalanced classes.
THis game is not balanced and it can never be that now. Better to create more servers so that more ppl can roll destruction !!
Nope- I expect a real solution like balanced classes in terms of melee and healing. Thats how you fix things. Not by cheap offers that noone listens to.
you are crying because healers got brought back to the same level as the rest of us schmoes. and sorry but healers can take care of themselves very very well. Hell i saw a lvl 22 high elf tank 3 toons at once yesterday in open rvr. The only real destruction class that can outdamage a healer's heals are marauders. and they were made to be caster killers.
Healers should remain in the back of the battle, healing people in front of them. They should not be on the front lines, either on destro or order side. The only healer which should be on the front line is the DoK. Thats it.
kinda funny since I have played mmos for the past 8 years.... lol
You dont fix things by breaking the balance of the game. Mythic created classes and specs thate were unbalanced. THey are not fixing that issue now. THey are doing the EXACT oposide since the melee classes on Order side SUCK (like the melee/healing class compared to Destruction) or the melee class that is supposed to be the counter to Mauraders. Not to mention the tanking specs that BOTH suck on the order side.
ANd you expect this to be balanced when the few intresting classes on Order side were made worthless to play and have now NO chance of lvling up renown at the same pace as the Melee dominating Destro side ? ...
Yep, no chance in hell to level your renown. You should quit now and never look back.
And so should all the Order - and you know what - They are exactly doing that. Or rolling destruction like most ppl that realise that you should not bother to play broken, boring and unbalanced classes.
THis game is not balanced and it can never be that now. Better to create more servers so that more ppl can roll destruction !!
Playing on Brechafen. Totally balanced. I'm destro and I lose just as many Scenarios as I win. Keeps are held by both sides and defended. I've seen little balance issues (except BW's seem a little Op'd IMO). But don't worry guys, I'm calling the Whaambulance for you. Your mommies will be here shortly to comfort you with eskimoe kisses and teddy bears.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
The grass is always greener on the other side.
Priceless.
Here's a thought, you think it's unbalanced now imagine if Chaos were under the flag of Khorne? You'd have zero Order players, seriously their motto is "Blood for the Blood God" yeah, you guys are lucky we're not Khorne.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.