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Virtual murder ends up in court
paulscott
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Sumerised and opionionsed from here.
Basically two people were married in a game. One day the guy decides to divorce without telling his partner a thing.
Obviously this would be upsetting for someone even if they only took the reletionship for a joke. After all the person thinks so little of you that they don't even deem you worth saying a goodbye.
So in true vengefull fashion the partner decides to turn into a bitch and delete the guys character (italizized so you know what side of the story).
now the partner is shiped 620 miles accross the country and will likely end up in court where she could face a charge of 'hacking' which has a fine up to $5,000 dollars and 5 years in prison.
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well since MMOs are now court worthy in two countries the Nederlands, Japan, and the USA(second life sex gen bed lawsuit). Which country do you think is next? Where are politicians going to bring this?
The mmo genera is soo screwwed if court cases keep popping up this fast
it's only a matter of time...
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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
That is just crazy, that guy must have been uber wimp. Even though it was not a real marrage, its like breaking up with a person in real life over IM.
Screwed because you will be protected from stealers and people hacking your account? yes ok. Better be screwed then.
Hopefully some companies will step up to the plate, craft some sweet EULA language, and diminish lawsuits by and from their customers.
It's in their best interest anyway to do so.
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Well politcians will be convinced that since people tie value into it. it has capital value.
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Well politcians will be convinced that since people tie value into it. it actually does have value.
If people value something it has value, I think thats a pretty basic concept, no?
EX, ingame currency, people will pay real money for it, thus it has real value.
Well politcians will be convinced that since people tie value into it. it actually does have value.
If people value something it has value, I think thats a pretty basic concept, no?
edited in 10 seconds. but there is a differeance between value and capital value. sorry for the misconception.
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In cases like this I can see that there might be a reasonable case to answer for as the perpetrator has actually misused his account which he has paid money for without permission, so is hacking.
However if they start prosecuting under the guise of destroying real property I would be thoroughly against it.
People really need to unf*ck their heads though, it they are getting so involved with a game that they feel the need to call the police then that's just sad.
Well politcians will be convinced that since people tie value into it. it actually does have value.
If people value something it has value, I think thats a pretty basic concept, no?
EX, ingame currency, people will pay real money for it, thus it has real value.
Yes, and therefore it becomes, inevitably, a matter for the courts, because it is property.
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In the UK a man hacked his wife to pieces for posting she was single on her Facebook account.
Hell may have no fury like a woman scorned. Hell is also filled with men who hacked their scornful wives to bits.
Virtual murder is pretty rhetorical for the issue at hand, although I certainly can't disagree with the end result.
I don't think she should be charged with hacking since he gave her the login info in the first place. He was completely stupid for not changing that info before he divorced her char in-game. She really didn't have a right to kill off his char, but it's not a big enough deal to get the cops involved. I'd say he's far more petty and vengeful than she is.
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I was wondering the same thing. The fact that it was a character on Maplestory is irrelevant. She hacked into his account and deleted data of his without his knowledge. The press is just spinning this to make it sound more interesting....which it isn't.
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I was wondering the same thing. The fact that it was a character on Maplestory is irrelevant. She hacked into his account and deleted data of his without his knowledge. The press is just spinning this to make it sound more interesting....which it isn't.
"Woman arrested for killing virtual reality husband" is better than "Woman arrested for deleting a another gamers account"
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What she did was access the guy's account and delete his avatar. So the real issue is did she destroy his property?
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it's not about destroying property or virtual murder or all that fancy-sounding stuff made up by the media (and forummembers) but about hacking. hacking is unauthorized access of protected data, which is exactly what that women did (since the guy didn't allow her to do what she did). gotta love how ppl blow stuff way out of what it is.
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I can't believe she could get actual prison time for this. He gave her the password and didn't bother to change it when he no longer wanted her to have access to the account. If his account had actually been 'hacked' by someone he didn't know I wonder if he would have called the police and expected them to investigate it?
Could you imagine taking this call at the police station? Do the japanese have so little real crime that they can follow up on nonesense like this? I would be angry to see my tax dollars wasted over something so trivial as a character getting deleted. Hell, he could've done it himself by accident one day and nothing would have come of it.
Yes I understand that people place real value in online lives, but I think problems online should remain online. He should have just contacted Maple Story and cried to them about it. Getting the police involved is just ridiculous.
Hacking: Unauthorized access of a system.
So the charges are pretty valid, the Japaneese has only had laws on the book that 'technically' made hacking illeagal for two years or so(excited happy to be able to use them?). So you need to take that into account as well.
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I'd be curious to know what her defense will be. Since he didn't correspond with her to tell her about the divorce then he likely didn't bother to tell her not to use his account information any more. At some point he did give her the information willingly and allowed her to use it. So unless he has records that indicate that he had revoked the invitation to use his password then I think it would count as authorized access.
We'd have to know a great deal more about the specifics of the case of course, but there are so many ways they could take this.
Got to love how the media manipulates the situation!!!!!!!!
I'd be curious to know what her defense will be. Since he didn't correspond with her to tell her about the divorce then he likely didn't bother to tell her not to use his account information any more. At some point he did give her the information willingly and allowed her to use it. So unless he has records that indicate that he had revoked the invitation to use his password then I think it would count as authorized access.
We'd have to know a great deal more about the specifics of the case of course, but there are so many ways they could take this.
The case does get a lot more interesting when you mention it like that. and has reaching effects far outside of 'hobbies'.
Despite the content of the case it's on par with a case a few months back of that sanfrancisco IT admin crippling the adminstration tools of the emergancy communication Wireless-WAN(wide area network) when it got word that they were going to fire him. Sadly the media didn't follow up on the case and I don't readily know where to look to get the follow up.
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Too bad she didn't live in the US. She could have tracked him down, hit him with her car, mamed or killed him and got off with 1-3 years tops.
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She should get the chair.
Hm. Well.. Erm..
I don't know. If she did actually (edit: rephrase) hack into the guys character, she's guilty, isn't she?
I hope every country sits down one day, and writes a bunch of laws for mmos. Honestly. Of course, the mmo companies need to make an EULA accordingly.
Rules should eliminate the need of the court, and make sure people get their shit together..
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how is video game marriage almost the same as real life marriage?
and who would go to all the trouble to hack someones account and delete their character? hardcore right there
i underestimated how many people take video games seriously.
i would just give them a slap on the wrist and get the company to remake the guys character. simple