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PLEASE READ BIOWARE. These are mine and alot of other players wish's for this great title you have o
Kailash
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-HUGE open world
-Skill based not level based
-Instances to a LOW LOW minimum
-Crafting must be exceptional so it can help create a social community also make crafting very important to the game not an afterthought
-Jedi's like SWG must be a unlockable class, imo and MANY other people i know dont like the idea of 245745737 jedi's because it just destroys the lore.
-No set paths, make it that you feel like your story is diffrent from everyother player out there. Pretty much like SWG pre cu
-LOTs and LOTs of vehicles that can have a strategic part in battle (tanks, APC, etc)
-No right off the bat picks of what side you want to fight on. For example ima sith commando that decides to abandon his dark brothers and choose the light. This will also allow for a more feeling of freedom for the player.
-Good guild controls. Alliances, unlockable content for the guilds players to use.
-PvP allowing of town captures. Maybe even alittle RvR
-PVE make sure the AI isnt dumb "cough WAR cough"
-NO ABSOLUTLY NO SCENARIO//Battle grounds this has destroyed PvP in MMOs.
-PLZ do not favor the idiotic crowd//youth. Difficulty is your friend and the MMO industry is lacking it. Now im not saying only favor the incredible playersbut dont make it that ANYONE can have incredible gear "cough WoW cough" only the people who deserve it should have it
-SPACE COMBAT!!! ALSO SPACE EXPLORATION!!!
-For endgame raiding try to stay away from instanced raiding but careful with the respawn rate. It can really destroy raiding if the spawn rate is too high.
-Also possibly the most important thing of all. Make sure you have only one or 2 "social grounds"possibly a cantina or something MANY MANY MMOs have not grasped the secret to a successful community development and thats its social grounds. For example WoW has (had) Iron forge, Star wars galaxies has its cantinas and EQ2 has its main cities. This is VERY VERY important.
-And finally DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT hurry this games development you have a VERY VERY popular title on your hands do not fuck it up. The key atm to create a successful MMO is to acually FINISH the product AND then start building on it. Not the old ship the game half finished type deal and let the subs pay for the missing content. Gamers are TIRED of this BS and as u can see from the last emmm 15 MMOs were not puting up with it....
Thanks alot Bioware and good luck!!!
P.S to the beta testers do your fucking job so when the game is shiped it aint half assed. Remember Beta isnt a demo!!!
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basicly you just want the old school swg.
im fairly sure Bioware wont even go near that tbh.
Sadly your probably right.
Something tells me there going for the WoWtarded crowd...
Hopefully Bioware is intelligent enough to know No WoW wannabe will ever be successful. People arent looking for another WoW not even WoW vets are looking for a remake of WoW 90% of the people that want to play a new MMO acually want to play a NEW!!! MMO. AOC sold alot of boxs because people were looking for innovation not the same old shit...
Hopefully bioware reads my post and takes it seriously. (which i doubt)
Instead of posting your wish list here why dont you instead post it on the official SW:ToR forums where the chances of the Devs reading it is about 300% greater?
Don't talk about destroying lore when you don't understand it yourself. The Old Republic timeline HAD hundreds of thousands of Jedi/Sith running around.
I think this game will be like any bioware game, but with the diffrence being MMO and not singleplayer...
That means, instanced, classes, linear, story driven and about 5-25k people per server running around with their lightsabers at full charge. Making 1-2 threads a day about how you want the game to be something it isn't, is just going to make you feel rejected and the swg whining will start again.
Be happy that they even try to make a new star wars mmo after how the last one ended up. It's nice to have expectations, but don't make it into some false reality where the developer is the bad guy for not giving you exactly what you want. ^-^
Nah tbh ill be happy when they acually pull this MMO off i really dont give a shit whether they try at a new SW MMO lol...
Im looking forward to fallen earth that game seems to be what im looking for ina MMO. Its acually a REAL MMO not this singleplayer lazy ass development games companies have been providing us.
Don't talk about destroying lore when you don't understand it yourself. The Old Republic timeline HAD hundreds of thousands of Jedi/Sith running around.
ahh well still my opinion stands....the class will be WAY WAY Overpopulated. Its just screams balance issues any tard can see that...
acually was about to do that lol
Sadly your probably right.
Something tells me there going for the WoWtarded crowd...
Hopefully Bioware is intelligent enough to know No WoW wannabe will ever be successful. People arent looking for another WoW not even WoW vets are looking for a remake of WoW 90% of the people that want to play a new MMO acually want to play a NEW!!! MMO. AOC sold alot of boxs because people were looking for innovation not the same old shit...
Hopefully bioware reads my post and takes it seriously. (which i doubt)
Forgive me if I'm mistaken here but your post just seems to be another "I want TOR to be SWG pre NGE/CU clone and think it will be retarded if its not post"
While this maybe hard for you to grasp there are different playstyles and tastes and just because some people are not looking for SWG pre NGE/CU doesn't make them any less intelligent then you. Strangly you seem very against a wow clone yet are for a SWG clone? Maybe you should wish Bioware trys to make their own game and not just a clone of anything?
Sadly your probably right.
Something tells me there going for the WoWtarded crowd...
Hopefully Bioware is intelligent enough to know No WoW wannabe will ever be successful. People arent looking for another WoW not even WoW vets are looking for a remake of WoW 90% of the people that want to play a new MMO acually want to play a NEW!!! MMO. AOC sold alot of boxs because people were looking for innovation not the same old shit...
Hopefully bioware reads my post and takes it seriously. (which i doubt)
Maybe you should wish Bioware trys to make their own game and not just a clone of anything?
Even though that will be awsome and refreshing, that wont happen. Because from what ive seen from the last 40 MMOs noone wants (or cant) create there own MMO. Its to high of a risk they would rather recreate a successful MMO.
Also I think we can all agree that EQ2 and SWG are far more complicated games then WoW...Which is probably why WoW has so many subs.
I think they are aware of the players who want old school SWG. But this is the game they want to make not remake one that Sony made.
However, instead of posting on this site why don't you write up a professional lookinig letter, find out who the important people are on the team and send it to all of them (don't forget to CC no the bottom who you are sending it to.
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OP:
Fantastic! It's basicly: "Scrap your game, and make me MY game!"
Should it not be that the good game convinces YOU instead of the opposite by the way?
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http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I think they are aware of the players who want old school SWG. But this is the game they want to make not remake one that Sony made.
However, instead of posting on this site why don't you write up a professional lookinig letter, find out who the important people are on the team and send it to all of them (don't forget to CC no the bottom who you are sending it to.
Hehe thanks alot atm ima acually fixing up this post and ya ill take your advice about sending it to the Devs.
Sorry can you rephrase this. Dont fully understand it heh
I said, that you are basically saying that they should scrap everything they want to do and make YOUR game with your priority list instead of theirs.
And that you should let a good game speak for itself, and let it consume you, instead of you being the one trying to modify it for your own personal cravings
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Don't talk about destroying lore when you don't understand it yourself. The Old Republic timeline HAD hundreds of thousands of Jedi/Sith running around.
Kailash only knows SWG doubt if he ever played any of the Kotor titles, and if bioware is smart they wont go the way he is suggesting
Personally, I 'd take the OP a lot more seriously if the spelling and grammar errors weren't there. Here's a lesson: if you can't get the little things right, what are the odds you can get the big things right? Taking the time to write correctly-spelled and gramatically-correct content is first a sign of self-respect. It says "I respect myself and the people around me enough to communicate clearly and correctly. I'm ready to participate materially in the discourse of the adult world."
Yes, yes, yes--grammar Nazi, blah, blah, blah. Think about it, though: how does one make someone like a software designer or developer take one's ideas seriously? Answer: by stating those ideas clearly and concisely. How does one do that? For a start, one uses correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar. This applies to spoken as well as written communication. When I hear or read "him and me was..." instead of "he and I were..." I cringe, because it means that the individual involved doesn't understand how ignorant he or she appears. (It doesn't even have the grace of dialect. It's simply sloppy grammar. When the writer of a novel wants to use a shortcut characterization trick to show that a minor character is un- or under-educated, the writer has that character's dialog start out "him and me was....")
I suppose next I'm to read that I'm being judgmental. Yes, yes I am. So are lots of people, including those who sign paychecks. An objective standard exists for this sort of thing--you were taught the rules in school (or are currently learning/ignoring the rules in your English and Language Arts classes right now). If you want to wear plaid pants with a polka dot shirt, that's your choice-no objective standard exists, and by all means, please yourself when you dress for the day. Where language skills are concerned, however, the standard exists, and I'm more than willing to point out that it exists.
As a side note, I'd like to point out that one certainly couldn't get a decent, well-paying job with literacy skills like those. With those skills, I'd forecast that the writer will still be participating in the largely unskilled labor pool at the age of 35 and cashing his or her paychecks at Amscot. LIving beer-to-beer isn't much of a life. That may come as a shocking revelation to some: how well you do in life may depend on your communications skills. It's an undeniable truth. (You can try to deny it. Go ahead. Find me an example of a truly successful person in any field of endeavor who starts sentences with phrases like "him and me was..." (other than the Grand Ol' Opry or country comedy, where it's sort of expected).
I'm former high-school teacher James Hawk III, and I approve this message.
(It is entirely possible that somewhere in this posting I've made a typo. No doubt someone will seize upon it with reckless glee, as if that somehow dilutes my message. It will not. Anyone can make a mistake, especially when working against a deadline [in this case, getting my son to school on time]. There is a huge difference between a typo here and there, and a repeated pattern of spelling, punctuation, and grammar mistakes. Don't waste your time going there, because you'll be wrong--as if arguing me with would make you right in the first place.)
Arguing with me will not make you right.
SO much text... on spelling...
*head explodes*
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
To all who didn't grasp the idea of Kailash:
1. He doesn't want preCU SWG clone. SWG before preCU had many bugs and problems, which were never solved. The devs instead completely redisigned the game. It is about the ideas from gameplay that made preCU SWG unique game.
2. There are hunderds of thousands of players that left SWG because the good ideas of the original gameplay were abandoned. There were basicly no other MMOs with such features, like sandbox world, no classed, but professions, no levels, meaningful crafting etc.
3. Don't forget that people have the right to wish a good game. And if are not disturbed by the WoWish landscape of all MMOs, then go and grind for your next tier of armor and weapons, then wait for the next expansion, because there will be another tier for which you need to spend 1000 hours to get them ... and again and again ... you get me?
Kailash cheers!
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Petar Stoilov <KTD>, Bounty Hunter
SWG veteran, Bria server
SO much text... on spelling...
*head explodes*
It matters. Sorry about your head.
Arguing with me will not make you right.
Gameplay ideas or not, his list consists of everything SWG had or did. He does want a clone of SWG in the world of TOR this is clearly made clear. I won't go into the whole "I'm a vet" bullshit, but I hope to all hell that they don't even touch the aspects of SWG... at all. Zero. Why? The reason SWG failed was because the features and the gameplay was er how should I say, "misted".
What I mean by this is the players that came in, that never played an MMO in their life said the game was too complex, too hard, they died too much because they couldn't tell how strong stuff is. While clearly this wasn't their fan base, they decided to fix the problems with out consideration of the loyal subscribers. In the end nothing SWG ever was existed.
I just want them to stick to their vision, don't let anyone push them off that path. The last thing we need is another star wars flop. It is Bioware and I have tons of faith in them to make a great, rewarding, and story deep MMO. Be it theme park or otherwise. I just want to relax in the world of star wars again, so let them get it right the first time no matter what elements or features. Give them a damn chance, it isn't what you want, it is what they can bring to the table.
Sadly your probably right.
Something tells me there going for the WoWtarded crowd...
Hopefully Bioware is intelligent enough to know No WoW wannabe will ever be successful. People arent looking for another WoW not even WoW vets are looking for a remake of WoW 90% of the people that want to play a new MMO acually want to play a NEW!!! MMO. AOC sold alot of boxs because people were looking for innovation not the same old shit...
Hopefully bioware reads my post and takes it seriously. (which i doubt)
Forgive me if I'm mistaken here but your post just seems to be another "I want TOR to be SWG pre NGE/CU clone and think it will be retarded if its not post"
While this maybe hard for you to grasp there are different playstyles and tastes and just because some people are not looking for SWG pre NGE/CU doesn't make them any less intelligent then you. Strangly you seem very against a wow clone yet are for a SWG clone? Maybe you should wish Bioware trys to make their own game and not just a clone of anything?
But you see people who play those other playstyles are "tards" and in the minority I guess. There are millions of people just waiting for a game like Pre-cu SWG to come back, and as soon as it does gonna put wows tard numbers to shame.
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The OP lost me with the age comment. I am 36 and to see a 21 year old commenting on age/intelligence just makes me laugh. I mean, to me, the OP IS the younger crowd he is disparaging.
I think BioWare is going to bring something totally new to the genre, just because it isn't SWG v2.0 doesn't mean it is going to be an automatic failure.
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
These types of threads are realy getting old. I just want Bioware to make a great game their own way.
Sadly your probably right.
Something tells me there going for the WoWtarded crowd...
Hopefully Bioware is intelligent enough to know No WoW wannabe will ever be successful. People arent looking for another WoW not even WoW vets are looking for a remake of WoW 90% of the people that want to play a new MMO acually want to play a NEW!!! MMO. AOC sold alot of boxs because people were looking for innovation not the same old shit...
Hopefully bioware reads my post and takes it seriously. (which i doubt)
Forgive me if I'm mistaken here but your post just seems to be another "I want TOR to be SWG pre NGE/CU clone and think it will be retarded if its not post"
While this maybe hard for you to grasp there are different playstyles and tastes and just because some people are not looking for SWG pre NGE/CU doesn't make them any less intelligent then you. Strangly you seem very against a wow clone yet are for a SWG clone? Maybe you should wish Bioware trys to make their own game and not just a clone of anything?
But you see people who play those other playstyles are "tards" and in the minority I guess. There are millions of people just waiting for a game like Pre-cu SWG to come back, and as soon as it does gonna put wows tard numbers to shame.