Waiting for a Western Beta (or general release) to come out so I can get some opinions from it. Don't really care what folks who played the Korean beta thought.
There is no beta for western, you can try in it in gameing events.
Waiting for a Western Beta (or general release) to come out so I can get some opinions from it. Don't really care what folks who played the Korean beta thought.
There is no beta for western, you can try in it in gameing events.
Yeah, think i heard that somewhere, so looks like I'll be waiting until Western release.
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The graphic animations alone make me want to vomit.When will they ever lose this penny arcade feel they put into there games?They need to realize you need at least 20 frame ani's to make a decent looking animation.There is no enjoyment at all watching there animations because you can't even see them,there so ridiculously fast.
The game and it's models look like Lineage all over again,only there throwing in flying as a niche tactic to lure in the mindless players.Same looking weapons/armor and even the player models look the same.
I got tired of watching scripted movies of the game,they must be afraid to release actual game footage.That ridiculous looking armor is still same old same old,they just can't change anything they do in there games.They are so set in there ways,there is very little hope of them ever releasing anything that isn't same old re done Lineage crap.I see no advancement in gaming here at all,as a matter of fact it looks like the exact same unreal engine Lineage was built on.
I hear a lot of ramblings about hands on trials by press and such.Well i just finished a couple weeks ago playing Atlantica,sure initially becuase it is a fresh game,it comes off as looking great and i wanted more.After putting in several hours and a week of gameplay you soon realize ,it's nothing but the same old boring crap.This game will be like playing a Lineage expansion pack.
Have they at least got past the point of making static buildings with there quest NPC's standing in front of non working doors?I mean geesh we need something that looks a tad better than playing Grand Theft Auto.Is there actual CONTENT? or do you just log in and kill stuff?i can get that in F2P games.What EXACTLY does AION bring to the table that will make people quit another game ?What new ideas are they bringing to the table if any?
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Pass on it then. just because you don't like it does not mean its a bad game or other people will not like it. Bro just find a game you like and go for it.
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I guess Aion will hit hard in the market. I don't care about people saying "this is again a Korean grinding feast" they are or just trolling or may be too lazy to get informed. I'm not going to loose my time to do their homework. If someone it's interested on it there are plenty of information, videos, reviews and so around. Just wait to they launching the game next year in NA/Europe and, may be i'm wrong, you will see a lot of players coming there Aion is not a sanbox its not going to satisfy sandbox fans but is not WoW style in its core definition. Faction PvP in the Abyss will make it closer to DAOC model. I will give it a try of course.
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened - WoW is very weak right now, IMO, quite possibly more vulnerable to competition than it's ever been. Sure it may have millions of subs but WoW players are, as a whole, unhappy and have been for a long time now.
So far nobody's really been up to the challenge of making a game with mass appeal that's not either a bug-ridden mess, a shameless clone, or has some glaring flaw that gimps out of the gate. Maybe Aion will be what finally takes the genre forward. Or maybe it won't, but either way I think something's going to give in a big way in the next year or two.
The graphic animations alone make me want to vomit.When will they ever lose this penny arcade feel they put into there games?They need to realize you need at least 20 frame ani's to make a decent looking animation.There is no enjoyment at all watching there animations because you can't even see them,there so ridiculously fast. Show me a video and point at a poorly animated skill. The game and it's models look like Lineage all over again,only there throwing in flying as a niche tactic to lure in the mindless players.Same looking weapons/armor and even the player models look the same. Do they?
I got tired of watching scripted movies of the game,they must be afraid to release actual game footage.That ridiculous looking armor is still same old same old,they just can't change anything they do in there games.They are so set in there ways,there is very little hope of them ever releasing anything that isn't same old re done Lineage crap.I see no advancement in gaming here at all,as a matter of fact it looks like the exact same unreal engine Lineage was built on. They are so afraid that there's no enforced NDA on their beta stages, there are hundreds of player made videos showing actual gameplay in youtube. The engine used is the crytek one. I hear a lot of ramblings about hands on trials by press and such.Well i just finished a couple weeks ago playing Atlantica,sure initially becuase it is a fresh game,it comes off as looking great and i wanted more.After putting in several hours and a week of gameplay you soon realize ,it's nothing but the same old boring crap.This game will be like playing a Lineage expansion pack. Throwing boring comments with no arguments? How will it be like playing a Lineage expansion pack, just because you didn't enjoy Atlantica? lol please... Have they at least got past the point of making static buildings with there quest NPC's standing in front of non working doors?I mean geesh we need something that looks a tad better than playing Grand Theft Auto.Is there actual CONTENT? or do you just log in and kill stuff?i can get that in F2P games.What EXACTLY does AION bring to the table that will make people quit another game ?What new ideas are they bringing to the table if any? Do you want to talk about core design or features? Quests with voice overs and cutscenes, RvR with PvE targets on PvP areas and death penalty, rifts connecting both factions worlds for some casual pvp, third faction with advanced AI that interferes on RvR battles, RvR strategic points that can screw the opposite faction once you get control over them, upcoming housing system with the ability to burn those houses down or bombard them from the airs.
We get it, you don't like Aion, no need to post the same shit on every single thread ignoring every reply you get. We already discussed this and you ignored my posts, you even stated that vanguard graphics own Aion's and nobody agreed with you, it's your taste, hope you realize that.
To prove even further that you are just being an ass, I'll post a comment you did about a screenshot:
Being that it is ncsoft you can bet it may be the exact same game as L2,but with different models.They have little knowledge of working colours into a game lol.Look at every screeenshot,it's all blue or all pink or all yellow.Keeps the poly couint down using the same texture and colours over and over but makes for a bland looking background.Pretty much typical of L2 design,so i bet it may even be the same coders designers.
Originally posted by Wizardry Have they at least got past the point of making static buildings with there quest NPC's standing in front of non working doors?I mean geesh we need something that looks a tad better than playing Grand Theft Auto.Is there actual CONTENT? or do you just log in and kill stuff?i can get that in F2P games.What EXACTLY does AION bring to the table that will make people quit another game ?What new ideas are they bringing to the table if any?
I'm sorry, I just had to cut this out of the absurd rant and hilight it. Because its amazing. When someone compares a game to one of the most critically and financially popular franchises in the world (I don't think Aion is anything like GTA, but that's desides the point) and then uses that as a criticism...
Reality. Look it up.
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The graphic animations alone make me want to vomit.When will they ever lose this penny arcade feel they put into there games?They need to realize you need at least 20 frame ani's to make a decent looking animation.There is no enjoyment at all watching there animations because you can't even see them,there so ridiculously fast. The game and it's models look like Lineage all over again,only there throwing in flying as a niche tactic to lure in the mindless players.Same looking weapons/armor and even the player models look the same. I got tired of watching scripted movies of the game,they must be afraid to release actual game footage.That ridiculous looking armor is still same old same old,they just can't change anything they do in there games.They are so set in there ways,there is very little hope of them ever releasing anything that isn't same old re done Lineage crap.I see no advancement in gaming here at all,as a matter of fact it looks like the exact same unreal engine Lineage was built on. I hear a lot of ramblings about hands on trials by press and such.Well i just finished a couple weeks ago playing Atlantica,sure initially becuase it is a fresh game,it comes off as looking great and i wanted more.After putting in several hours and a week of gameplay you soon realize ,it's nothing but the same old boring crap.This game will be like playing a Lineage expansion pack. Have they at least got past the point of making static buildings with there quest NPC's standing in front of non working doors?I mean geesh we need something that looks a tad better than playing Grand Theft Auto.Is there actual CONTENT? or do you just log in and kill stuff?i can get that in F2P games.What EXACTLY does AION bring to the table that will make people quit another game ?What new ideas are they bringing to the table if any?
You kinda got off track with the Atlantica game play ramble....I don't know what that has to do with anything here.....You can also find a quest giver at a farm house, but your gonna have to hunt him down because he will be out in his fields or he could be out fighting near by monsters... But hay, this game is not your cup of tea and thats cool. Have fun on your quest to find a game you like. I hope you find one because I have.
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I wasn't trying to "market" the game, I just find it hard to believe that so few people take the game seriously after seeing all of the amazing beta footage that has come out recently. I didn't list reasons why it won't be a grinder, because we all know how devs can lie and game footage can be rigged to prove a point. The websites I listed have actually played the game through a few levels, which is the best way to verify what the developers have been marketing. Obviously they've been keeping their promises. I have no problem with people that don't like the artstlye or the combat animations etc., that's fine. I'm just curious how people can still drag the game through the dirt when everyone who's played it loved it. Once again, sorry if the post came off as "viral marketing".
All of this STILL doesn't explain why it isn't another Asian grinder. All I've seen is a copy/paste of general remarks some sites made about the game. It doesn't say anything at all about the game systems used.
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Originally posted by Rayana All of this STILL doesn't explain why it isn't another Asian grinder. All I've seen is a copy/paste of general remarks some sites made about the game. It doesn't say anything at all about the game systems used.
It's not an Asian grinder because NCSoft say it isn't, duh.
Also, everyone loves plastic Action Man and Barbie characters, clearly.
Originally posted by Devour It's not an Asian grinder because NCSoft say it isn't, duh. /sarcasm on
Ah, forgive me my ignorance. I didn't know some PR folks at NC Soft said it wasn't a grind. So it must be true then, because PR folks never lie.
/sarcasm off
Don't get me wrong, I DO like some of the NCSoft titles, but there have been some very shitty ones as well. And there have also been some things NCSoft lied about in the past. I don't trust them on their word. PR talk doesn't equal truth or accuracy.
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I wasn't trying to "market" the game, I just find it hard to believe that so few people take the game seriously after seeing all of the amazing beta footage that has come out recently. I didn't list reasons why it won't be a grinder, because we all know how devs can lie and game footage can be rigged to prove a point. The websites I listed have actually played the game through a few levels, which is the best way to verify what the developers have been marketing. Obviously they've been keeping their promises. I have no problem with people that don't like the artstlye or the combat animations etc., that's fine. I'm just curious how people can still drag the game through the dirt when everyone who's played it loved it. Once again, sorry if the post came off as "viral marketing".
All of this STILL doesn't explain why it isn't another Asian grinder. All I've seen is a copy/paste of general remarks some sites made about the game. It doesn't say anything at all about the game systems used.
Whether or not a game is a "grind" is very much up to the player.
Ayase who is the cm for Aion said that to get to level cap would take a little longer than WoW.
Now, from my experience that is not a grind. At all. Others might disagree.
There were people who felt that getting to lvl 20 in Guild wars was a grind and others "not so much".
But people have to realize that in no way is NC soft saying that this is revolutionary new gameplay that will completely erradicate grind.
This is a traditional mmo in the spirit of WoW, LOTRO, CoX with a Asian art design and more pvp thrown in in certain areas.
So given that people need to make up their own minds.
As for me I like the whole heightened high concept art design so this game will hopefully be for me. I do know that it is the only game am looking forward to playing of all the games coming out. - J
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This game is crap, it's obvious. It looks exactly like lineage with updated gfx. The races are boring as hell, I mean come on, you get to choose between light and dark elves basically, they look pretty much the same. Wheeee, I can either be some guy with white wings or a blue guy with black "evil" wings, yay! The armor is the same old lineage stuff, which while nice looking, makes the game look like a Lineage 2 expansion pack. I mean really could it have killed them to have different races? WoW got it right, you get Draenei, Trolls, Orcs, Undead, Dwarves, Blood and Night Elves, Gnomes, and finally Humans. What do you get here? Good angels and "bad" angels, give me a friggin break. Also the game is loaded with those over the top shiny seizure inducing special effects asians love. Spell effects in WoW look awesome, Aion's effects look like you walked into a damn rave and took LSD. No thanks, when I summon fireballs I want to see FIRE, not giant phoenix shaped light effects and pink and blue swirls above my character just to throw what looks like an orange strobe light. Yuck. Also unlike WoW(or WAR or hell, even AOC) the characters in Aion look generic as hell. They all have those same Final Fantasy "character that looks sorta asian but obviously isn't" faces, and their armor sucks. Look at WoW armor, it's friggin badass, women get kickass armor just like the men do. In Asian games women all get stuck wearing miniskirt armor, wtf? WTF is with Asians and their fixation on forcing female characters to wear miniskirt armor to battles? In Western games women wear REAL armor, not stripper clothes.
WoW is gonna destroy this game like it destroyed every other crappy Asian made MMO.
This game is crap, it's obvious. It looks exactly like lineage with updated gfx. The races are boring as hell, I mean come on, you get to choose between light and dark elves basically, they look pretty much the same. Wheeee, I can either be some guy with white wings or a blue guy with black "evil" wings, yay! The armor is the same old lineage stuff, which while nice looking, makes the game look like a Lineage 2 expansion pack. I mean really could it have killed them to have different races? WoW got it right, you get Draenei, Trolls, Orcs, Undead, Dwarves, Blood and Night Elves, Gnomes, and finally Humans. What do you get here? Good angels and "bad" angels, give me a friggin break. Also the game is loaded with those over the top shiny seizure inducing special effects asians love. Spell effects in WoW look awesome, Aion's effects look like you walked into a damn rave and took LSD. No thanks, when I summon fireballs I want to see FIRE, not giant phoenix shaped light effects and pink and blue swirls above my character just to throw what looks like an orange strobe light. Yuck. Also unlike WoW(or WAR or hell, even AOC) the characters in Aion look generic as hell. They all have those same Final Fantasy "character that looks sorta asian but obviously isn't" faces, and their armor sucks. Look at WoW armor, it's friggin badass, women get kickass armor just like the men do. In Asian games women all get stuck wearing miniskirt armor, wtf? WTF is with Asians and their fixation on forcing female characters to wear miniskirt armor to battles? In Western games women wear REAL armor, not stripper clothes.
WoW is gonna destroy this game like it destroyed every other crappy Asian made MMO.
I don't know wether this post is real or just a parody about wow fanboys.
OP, what I don't like are posts like yours. It comes off as shilling or viral marketing to me. It basically puts the game off my radar.
Exactly. Much like those new movies that suck, but have ads that say "Four Stars", "will keep you riveted". Then you look closely and the quote is from a small newspaper in Baker, California.
I will wait until this game is released. My hype meter for anything is turned completely off.
This game is crap, it's obvious. It looks exactly like lineage with updated gfx. The races are boring as hell, I mean come on, you get to choose between light and dark elves basically, they look pretty much the same. Wheeee, I can either be some guy with white wings or a blue guy with black "evil" wings, yay! The armor is the same old lineage stuff, which while nice looking, makes the game look like a Lineage 2 expansion pack. I mean really could it have killed them to have different races? WoW got it right, you get Draenei, Trolls, Orcs, Undead, Dwarves, Blood and Night Elves, Gnomes, and finally Humans. What do you get here? Good angels and "bad" angels, give me a friggin break. Also the game is loaded with those over the top shiny seizure inducing special effects asians love. Spell effects in WoW look awesome, Aion's effects look like you walked into a damn rave and took LSD. No thanks, when I summon fireballs I want to see FIRE, not giant phoenix shaped light effects and pink and blue swirls above my character just to throw what looks like an orange strobe light. Yuck. Also unlike WoW(or WAR or hell, even AOC) the characters in Aion look generic as hell. They all have those same Final Fantasy "character that looks sorta asian but obviously isn't" faces, and their armor sucks. Look at WoW armor, it's friggin badass, women get kickass armor just like the men do. In Asian games women all get stuck wearing miniskirt armor, wtf? WTF is with Asians and their fixation on forcing female characters to wear miniskirt armor to battles? In Western games women wear REAL armor, not stripper clothes.
WoW is gonna destroy this game like it destroyed every other crappy Asian made MMO.
This game is crap, it's obvious. It looks exactly like lineage with updated gfx. The races are boring as hell, I mean come on, you get to choose between light and dark elves basically, they look pretty much the same. Wheeee, I can either be some guy with white wings or a blue guy with black "evil" wings, yay! The armor is the same old lineage stuff, which while nice looking, makes the game look like a Lineage 2 expansion pack. I mean really could it have killed them to have different races? WoW got it right, you get Draenei, Trolls, Orcs, Undead, Dwarves, Blood and Night Elves, Gnomes, and finally Humans. What do you get here? Good angels and "bad" angels, give me a friggin break. Also the game is loaded with those over the top shiny seizure inducing special effects asians love. Spell effects in WoW look awesome, Aion's effects look like you walked into a damn rave and took LSD. No thanks, when I summon fireballs I want to see FIRE, not giant phoenix shaped light effects and pink and blue swirls above my character just to throw what looks like an orange strobe light. Yuck. Also unlike WoW(or WAR or hell, even AOC) the characters in Aion look generic as hell. They all have those same Final Fantasy "character that looks sorta asian but obviously isn't" faces, and their armor sucks. Look at WoW armor, it's friggin badass, women get kickass armor just like the men do. In Asian games women all get stuck wearing miniskirt armor, wtf? WTF is with Asians and their fixation on forcing female characters to wear miniskirt armor to battles? In Western games women wear REAL armor, not stripper clothes.
WoW is gonna destroy this game like it destroyed every other crappy Asian made MMO.
I don't know wether this post is real or just a parody about wow fanboys.
I think that's a parody of himself, not even the worst WoW fanboy can go that far........
But I have to agree, that Aion seem more like Lineage 3 rather than a new original game.
Please read before you post. If you disagree with me that's fine, but i'd rather not have to read baseless arguements from fanbois. Aion has gone pretty much unnoticed for the last couple of years due to the shadows that AoC and WAR have cast over it, and the general presumption that all MMOs that come out of Asia are straight-up grinds with little or no quests or end-game content. However, since the very beginning Aion has been marketed by NCSoft as the MMO that is going to break this stereotype and appeal to gamers in all areas of the world. These claims were met with understandable skepticism, myself included. Though there might have been a good reason for this in the past (lack of information on the game), in the present I can't see how anybody can still think of Aion as generic Korean garbage. Previews, hands-on experiences, and testaments from Korean beta testers have all become available, and the general consensus is that the game has by far exceeded expectations. See for yourself: "I didn’t go into this with very high expectations. Like a lot of people out there, I’ve tried a lot of the Korean made MMOs and just couldn’t get into them. While they’re not my cup of tea, they obviously do very well and people out there like them. Given that, I really didn’t anticipate Aion being much different, but I was wrong. The time I spent playing the game was a blast. As I’m sure most people have already seen by the various screenshots and videos around the web, the game is stunningly beautiful. Even in the short amount of time I was playing I actually felt like I was accomplishing something. I did quite a few quests, found nice gear and manastones, and explored quite a bit. Aion has definitely moved quite a bit higher on my ‘most anticipated’ list and I’ll be keeping a much closer eye on what’s happening with it."
-MMORPG.com "After spending some time playing the game, it's clear that the developers of NCsoft have done their research in what separates a Korean MMORPG from a Western one....... By the time Aion reaches the West, the already competitive MMORPG market will be even nastier than it is now, but regardless of how it performs, NCsoft can rest easy. They've brought their baby into the 21st century."
-The Escapist "I'm not really into MMOs, though I always seem to wind up writing about them. After the first five or so, I developed the bitter attitude most post-Ultima Online elitist gamers have towards MMOs: “Psh. WoW clone.” But when I sat my skeptical self down for some hands-on time with NCsoft’s Aion: Tower of Eternity, I was surprised to find that I actually wanted to keep playing when it was time to pack up and go."
-Kotaku "We managed to reach level 5 before we were pried off our keyboards and other players sat down to experience the game. From what I saw and experienced, I am definitely addicted. I cannot wait for AION to come out and will be heavily looking forward to more information as we get closer to game release in 2009."
-MMOsite Aion also won the best MMO of the show award from MMORPG.com at PAX2008, beating out Warhammer. I could go on and on, but I don't want to make this wall of text any larger than it needs to be. So tell me, why do you still pass off Aion as another generic Korean MMO? I challenge you to try and find a negative review of the game.
Relevant text highlighted for emphasis. The truth is, anyone can make a game look good for half an hour. AoC is a perfect example.
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Relevant text highlighted for emphasis. The truth is, anyone can make a game look good for half an hour. AoC is a perfect example.
you are exactly correct. I'm sure that many game companies have done this.
That still doesn't say whether or not a game is just as you say or is actually a quality game. No one will know until they play this. still, the beta tests have been very positive with some criticisms. You can go to a site like Aionsource.com and see what beta testers had to say.
Nevertheless, whether one thinks this game is empirically a grind is one thing. However, it has been stated that the levelign is like WoW's and that it is a more traditional game.
So if people felt WoW was a grind then you would probably think this was a grind as well.
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Relevant text highlighted for emphasis. The truth is, anyone can make a game look good for half an hour. AoC is a perfect example.
you are exactly correct. I'm sure that many game companies have done this.
That still doesn't say whether or not a game is just as you say or is actually a quality game. No one will know until they play this. still, the beta tests have been very positive with some criticisms. You can go to a site like Aionsource.com and see what beta testers had to say.
Nevertheless, whether one thinks this game is empirically a grind is one thing. However, it has been stated that the levelign is like WoW's and that it is a more traditional game.
So if people felt WoW was a grind then you would probably think this was a grind as well.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it is or isn't going to be good. I'm just saying that these soundbites are pretty meaningless.
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Originally posted by Devour It's not an Asian grinder because NCSoft say it isn't, duh. /sarcasm on
Ah, forgive me my ignorance. I didn't know some PR folks at NC Soft said it wasn't a grind. So it must be true then, because PR folks never lie.
/sarcasm off
Don't get me wrong, I DO like some of the NCSoft titles, but there have been some very shitty ones as well. And there have also been some things NCSoft lied about in the past. I don't trust them on their word. PR talk doesn't equal truth or accuracy.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit...
If so, surely those who can't pick up on sarcasm are witless?
How can people still call Aion Just another Asian grinder? Because it's probably just another Asian grinder. If the game releases and proves to be something different, most of us will be surprised.
How can people still call Aion Just another Asian grinder? Because it's probably just another Asian grinder. If the game releases and proves to be something different, most of us will be surprised.
If I was NCSoft, this is how I would want my English-speaking audiance to feel, in all honesty.
Mega-hyped game that sells millions of boxes, has a faily low conversion rate, stabalizes at a few hundred thousand subs - miserable, horrible, total, and utter failure.
Not-so-hyped game that sells a few hundred thousand boxes, has a fairly high converssion rate, stabalizes at the same few hundred thousand subs as above - only now it's a successful game that's found it's 'niche', particularly if it's the kind of MMO that WoW gamers tend not to like.
I like Aion - it seems to be a nice, pretty, old-school MMO. Will it catch on? Maybe - I'll still try it, and even stay if I like it. Of course, it's no replacement for Eve but I can afford to sub to two games at once.
I still think WoW is teetering on an invisible precipice - every time a new MMO (especially a big-name MMO) comes out a bunch of people leave, try it, come back, tell everyone how much it sucks, and that's pretty much the end. When most of those people *don't* come back is when things will get interesting.
How can people still call Aion Just another Asian grinder? Because it's probably just another Asian grinder. If the game releases and proves to be something different, most of us will be surprised.
I still think WoW is teetering on an invisible precipice - every time a new MMO (especially a big-name MMO) comes out a bunch of people leave, try it, come back, tell everyone how much it sucks, and that's pretty much the end. When most of those people *don't* come back is when things will get interesting.
You mean because they will be leaving for WoW 2, or World of Starcraft?
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There is no beta for western, you can try in it in gameing events.
Yeah, think i heard that somewhere, so looks like I'll be waiting until Western release.
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The graphic animations alone make me want to vomit.When will they ever lose this penny arcade feel they put into there games?They need to realize you need at least 20 frame ani's to make a decent looking animation.There is no enjoyment at all watching there animations because you can't even see them,there so ridiculously fast.
The game and it's models look like Lineage all over again,only there throwing in flying as a niche tactic to lure in the mindless players.Same looking weapons/armor and even the player models look the same.
I got tired of watching scripted movies of the game,they must be afraid to release actual game footage.That ridiculous looking armor is still same old same old,they just can't change anything they do in there games.They are so set in there ways,there is very little hope of them ever releasing anything that isn't same old re done Lineage crap.I see no advancement in gaming here at all,as a matter of fact it looks like the exact same unreal engine Lineage was built on.
I hear a lot of ramblings about hands on trials by press and such.Well i just finished a couple weeks ago playing Atlantica,sure initially becuase it is a fresh game,it comes off as looking great and i wanted more.After putting in several hours and a week of gameplay you soon realize ,it's nothing but the same old boring crap.This game will be like playing a Lineage expansion pack.
Have they at least got past the point of making static buildings with there quest NPC's standing in front of non working doors?I mean geesh we need something that looks a tad better than playing Grand Theft Auto.Is there actual CONTENT? or do you just log in and kill stuff?i can get that in F2P games.What EXACTLY does AION bring to the table that will make people quit another game ?What new ideas are they bringing to the table if any?
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Pass on it then. just because you don't like it does not mean its a bad game or other people will not like it. Bro just find a game you like and go for it.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened - WoW is very weak right now, IMO, quite possibly more vulnerable to competition than it's ever been. Sure it may have millions of subs but WoW players are, as a whole, unhappy and have been for a long time now.
So far nobody's really been up to the challenge of making a game with mass appeal that's not either a bug-ridden mess, a shameless clone, or has some glaring flaw that gimps out of the gate. Maybe Aion will be what finally takes the genre forward. Or maybe it won't, but either way I think something's going to give in a big way in the next year or two.
We get it, you don't like Aion, no need to post the same shit on every single thread ignoring every reply you get. We already discussed this and you ignored my posts, you even stated that vanguard graphics own Aion's and nobody agreed with you, it's your taste, hope you realize that.
To prove even further that you are just being an ass, I'll post a comment you did about a screenshot:
Being that it is ncsoft you can bet it may be the exact same game as L2,but with different models.They have little knowledge of working colours into a game lol.Look at every screeenshot,it's all blue or all pink or all yellow.Keeps the poly couint down using the same texture and colours over and over but makes for a bland looking background.Pretty much typical of L2 design,so i bet it may even be the same coders designers.
The screenshot is this one:
I'm sorry, I just had to cut this out of the absurd rant and hilight it. Because its amazing. When someone compares a game to one of the most critically and financially popular franchises in the world (I don't think Aion is anything like GTA, but that's desides the point) and then uses that as a criticism...
Reality. Look it up.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
You kinda got off track with the Atlantica game play ramble....I don't know what that has to do with anything here.....You can also find a quest giver at a farm house, but your gonna have to hunt him down because he will be out in his fields or he could be out fighting near by monsters... But hay, this game is not your cup of tea and thats cool. Have fun on your quest to find a game you like. I hope you find one because I have.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
All of this STILL doesn't explain why it isn't another Asian grinder. All I've seen is a copy/paste of general remarks some sites made about the game. It doesn't say anything at all about the game systems used.
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It's not an Asian grinder because NCSoft say it isn't, duh.
Also, everyone loves plastic Action Man and Barbie characters, clearly.
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That video gave me a headache. Flashy shiny effects galore is not my cup of tea.
All of this STILL doesn't explain why it isn't another Asian grinder. All I've seen is a copy/paste of general remarks some sites made about the game. It doesn't say anything at all about the game systems used.
Whether or not a game is a "grind" is very much up to the player.
Ayase who is the cm for Aion said that to get to level cap would take a little longer than WoW.
Now, from my experience that is not a grind. At all. Others might disagree.
There were people who felt that getting to lvl 20 in Guild wars was a grind and others "not so much".
But people have to realize that in no way is NC soft saying that this is revolutionary new gameplay that will completely erradicate grind.
This is a traditional mmo in the spirit of WoW, LOTRO, CoX with a Asian art design and more pvp thrown in in certain areas.
So given that people need to make up their own minds.
As for me I like the whole heightened high concept art design so this game will hopefully be for me. I do know that it is the only game am looking forward to playing of all the games coming out. - J
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
This game is crap, it's obvious. It looks exactly like lineage with updated gfx. The races are boring as hell, I mean come on, you get to choose between light and dark elves basically, they look pretty much the same. Wheeee, I can either be some guy with white wings or a blue guy with black "evil" wings, yay! The armor is the same old lineage stuff, which while nice looking, makes the game look like a Lineage 2 expansion pack. I mean really could it have killed them to have different races? WoW got it right, you get Draenei, Trolls, Orcs, Undead, Dwarves, Blood and Night Elves, Gnomes, and finally Humans. What do you get here? Good angels and "bad" angels, give me a friggin break. Also the game is loaded with those over the top shiny seizure inducing special effects asians love. Spell effects in WoW look awesome, Aion's effects look like you walked into a damn rave and took LSD. No thanks, when I summon fireballs I want to see FIRE, not giant phoenix shaped light effects and pink and blue swirls above my character just to throw what looks like an orange strobe light. Yuck. Also unlike WoW(or WAR or hell, even AOC) the characters in Aion look generic as hell. They all have those same Final Fantasy "character that looks sorta asian but obviously isn't" faces, and their armor sucks. Look at WoW armor, it's friggin badass, women get kickass armor just like the men do. In Asian games women all get stuck wearing miniskirt armor, wtf? WTF is with Asians and their fixation on forcing female characters to wear miniskirt armor to battles? In Western games women wear REAL armor, not stripper clothes.
WoW is gonna destroy this game like it destroyed every other crappy Asian made MMO.
If it ain't WoW, it ain't worth playin'
I don't know wether this post is real or just a parody about wow fanboys.
Exactly. Much like those new movies that suck, but have ads that say "Four Stars", "will keep you riveted". Then you look closely and the quote is from a small newspaper in Baker, California.
I will wait until this game is released. My hype meter for anything is turned completely off.
obvious troll is obvious.
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I don't know wether this post is real or just a parody about wow fanboys.
I think that's a parody of himself, not even the worst WoW fanboy can go that far........
But I have to agree, that Aion seem more like Lineage 3 rather than a new original game.
I hope NCSoft proves me wrong.
Relevant text highlighted for emphasis. The truth is, anyone can make a game look good for half an hour. AoC is a perfect example.
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you are exactly correct. I'm sure that many game companies have done this.
That still doesn't say whether or not a game is just as you say or is actually a quality game. No one will know until they play this. still, the beta tests have been very positive with some criticisms. You can go to a site like Aionsource.com and see what beta testers had to say.
Nevertheless, whether one thinks this game is empirically a grind is one thing. However, it has been stated that the levelign is like WoW's and that it is a more traditional game.
So if people felt WoW was a grind then you would probably think this was a grind as well.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
you are exactly correct. I'm sure that many game companies have done this.
That still doesn't say whether or not a game is just as you say or is actually a quality game. No one will know until they play this. still, the beta tests have been very positive with some criticisms. You can go to a site like Aionsource.com and see what beta testers had to say.
Nevertheless, whether one thinks this game is empirically a grind is one thing. However, it has been stated that the levelign is like WoW's and that it is a more traditional game.
So if people felt WoW was a grind then you would probably think this was a grind as well.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it is or isn't going to be good. I'm just saying that these soundbites are pretty meaningless.
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Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit...
If so, surely those who can't pick up on sarcasm are witless?
How can people still call Aion Just another Asian grinder? Because it's probably just another Asian grinder. If the game releases and proves to be something different, most of us will be surprised.
If I was NCSoft, this is how I would want my English-speaking audiance to feel, in all honesty.
Mega-hyped game that sells millions of boxes, has a faily low conversion rate, stabalizes at a few hundred thousand subs - miserable, horrible, total, and utter failure.
Not-so-hyped game that sells a few hundred thousand boxes, has a fairly high converssion rate, stabalizes at the same few hundred thousand subs as above - only now it's a successful game that's found it's 'niche', particularly if it's the kind of MMO that WoW gamers tend not to like.
I like Aion - it seems to be a nice, pretty, old-school MMO. Will it catch on? Maybe - I'll still try it, and even stay if I like it. Of course, it's no replacement for Eve but I can afford to sub to two games at once.
I still think WoW is teetering on an invisible precipice - every time a new MMO (especially a big-name MMO) comes out a bunch of people leave, try it, come back, tell everyone how much it sucks, and that's pretty much the end. When most of those people *don't* come back is when things will get interesting.
I still think WoW is teetering on an invisible precipice - every time a new MMO (especially a big-name MMO) comes out a bunch of people leave, try it, come back, tell everyone how much it sucks, and that's pretty much the end. When most of those people *don't* come back is when things will get interesting.
You mean because they will be leaving for WoW 2, or World of Starcraft?