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No Politician Will Put a Chicken in YOUR Pot - White, Black, or Obama
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Change.
- What is it?
- Who wants it?
- How will they get it?
- It is different policies. What policies? Well, Iraq. War. Taxes. Economics.
- The public.
- They will not get it from Obama, but they can get it from participation.
Summary, if they want change, they will have to get it themselves.
You will not put a chicken in my pot.
I will not put a chicken in your pot.
Obama cannot put a chicken in your pot (unless you're a banker or government contractor).
If you are an ordinary person, and if you want change, you are going to have to earn it.
How?
You will have to participate in meetings, write, demand, and get involved in your government.
No one is going to "give" you change.
No one is going to "give" you a chicken for your pot.
You have to do it yourself.
If you want change, you are going to have to get 100% behind the public and Obama.
Otherwise, expect more of the same with a depression.
Welcome to Democracy.
Comments
How is that a bad thing? Do you think an administration spoon-feeding you terror alerts 24/7, telling you day in and day out that you are in peril so they could gain more control is better?
It's funny how conservatives/republicans are boasting about being the entrepreneurs of democracy, wanting to spread it around the globe, when they are afraid of it themself.
You want a small government, with conservative ideals controlling you. You are opposed a bigger government, an unfolded government, a government governed by the voice of the people. Why? Are you so afraid of a nation where everyone has the same rights?
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How is that a bad thing? Do you think an administration spoon-feeding you terror alerts 24/7, telling you day in and day out that you are in peril so they could gain more control is better?
It's funny how conservatives/republicans are boasting about being the entrepreneurs of democracy, wanting to spread it around the globe, when they are afraid of it themself.
You want a small government, with conservative ideals controlling you. You are opposed a bigger government, an unfolded government, a government governed by the voice of the people. Why? Are you so afraid of a nation where everyone has the same rights?
Those questions are from a stance that shows a misidentified version of what a conservative is. you can't rewrite definitions to tarnish us like that.
The truth is, that OP is right... Obama never promised to put gas in our cars.. He said "yes, we can." I hate to break this to the people that think he's going to magically fix their ilks in life... you've been handed a bait and switch tactic. He's going to lead a party that is steeped in big government pork projects for things that won't give anyone a full pot. Only more taxes.
Don't counter this with "Republicans spent more money too this time. " yes Bush did... it's called WAR. The constitution actually provides for that, not any other social programs though.
Smaller goverment is MUCH more controllable by the people than a big one, are you kidding?
No conservative is afraid of rights for all citizens. They are afraid of entitlements. there is a massive difference and you're missing it.
Faxxer is exactly right.
The motto was not, "Obama can," it was "Yes, We Can."
Change? I think they will accelerate Bush's Iraq plans. I anticipate a possible limited invasion of Pakistan, under the pretext of finding "Osama" instead of "WMD" in Iraq.
My point is that on defense contractor, finance, pharmaceutical issues ... change is not possible.
Yes we can = Yes, we can make a difference by agreeing to pay more for our electric , gas, and all products so that one day we will be closer to reducing pollution and creating more government programs aimed at helping more people.
The problem is no we cannot afford to pay for this right now, the economy is a wreck, and will only get much worse if we raise taxes on Industry right now.
Obama has no inetention of not funding the war or even stopping it, no.. we will be at war, and paying more for everything we use at the same time. In fact we will be spending more money for war in different countries than we are currently at war with.. it is a matter of which countries he thinks we should spend money on going to war with , rather than stopping any war.
- Russia is placing missiles next to Poland, and Isreal is no longer under a truce on the Gaza... we are going to be in a lot more places than just afganistan and Pakistan .
Grubby politician hands all over my chicken?! eww
In any case, a part of the energy supply solution may be just a hop over the pond away. France has been running on nearly 100% nuclear power for decades. Unlike our reactors, they use a two step process. After the radioactive materials are used up in the initial reaction, the waste is moved to a secondary reactor of a slightly different design and used again. The final result is more power from the same amount of material, and the waste is significantly less dangerous.
The problem is, that secondary reactor costs a bundle to build and maintain, even more than the standard type. So, as usual, people aren't interested in implementing it because of profit margins.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
We should learn from France on:
This great country of ours is held back because of the costs and inefficiencies of our energy and health care systems. So much opportunity to get better.
Energy
Comprehensive energy plan:
Health Care
Hybrid system
Where else can you find a terrible analogy followed by a delightful chorus of cocky republicans, who didn't win so rather than get on with it, or make the best of it, they are going to try to be cocky and smug.
Highschool anybody?
Your part of the minority. There are more people who disagree with you, than agree with you.
Don't pretend your smarter, you're not. Election statistics showed 75% of post-graduates voted Obama.
Don't say you have more "street smarts". You don't, your arguing (quite poorly I might add) politics on an internet forum.
Don't say the graduates are "liberal biased", that's a shallow and pointless argument.
Don't say Obama this, Obama that. If it was that serious, something would have happend already.
GET OVER IT. Your party lost, quit being sore losers and try to see what the majority of Americans see in the party that won.
god I love these forums sometimes >.>
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
You know deviliscious, ATM, I'm allot more concerned with stopping this Nation from becoming a third world country, than I am with saving the ones that are out there.
I'm a government contractor....where do I sign up for that free chicken???
You know deviliscious, ATM, I'm allot more concerned with stopping this Nation from becoming a third world country, than I am with saving the ones that are out there.
That is great and all.. But that is not what Our new young president will be concerned with first. These Issues will be the first things on his plate, IF Bush doesn't handle them before he gets in office... Obamas plans do nothing from turning the US into a 3rd world country, sorry they will help put it there if implemented the way they are. Those plans must be reconsidered otherwise "middle class" will not be able to afford their electric bliis, gas, or groceries.. farms make over $250,000 a year so that means your food prices go up as well.. EVERYTHING YOU BUY WILL INCREASE IN COST in order to pay for more government programs. But right now the middle class cannot take that weight. I do hope reason prevails here and he considers options that will actually increase jobs rather than reduce them and drive prices up.
Your agrument that says you are correct simply because your guy was elected is more like jr. high.
Think about it... That same logic means that slavery was right because slaves were the minority back then, right? Think a little bit more before you make sweeping generalizations because you are wrong more than once here.
There are no sore losers here. We're not lamenting the end of the world because we lost. The only cocky one here is you.
What the hell makes you think any of that necessarily reflects on our goals, position, or experience? I can't vouch for the others, but the only point I am trying to raise here are possible options that our new president elect may choose to pursue. Just because we voted for someone other than Obama does not mean we are not still U.S. citizens with a voice and the right to use it. If such were the case, no one could have said jack about Bush for the past 8 years.
P.S. You seem to assume that we're a bunch of high school dropouts for some reason, care to explain why? Personally, I'm a full time college student working towards a degree in aerospace engineering.
P.P.S. In today's world, a GED is worth exactly one piece of pretty paper, and almost nothing more. It is a horrible rating to judge intelligence by.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
You know deviliscious, ATM, I'm allot more concerned with stopping this Nation from becoming a third world country, than I am with saving the ones that are out there.
That is great and all.. But that is not what Our new young president will be concerned with first. These Issues will be the first things on his plate, IF Bush doesn't handle them before he gets in office... Obamas plans do nothing from turning the US into a 3rd world country, sorry they will help put it there if implemented the way they are. Those plans must be reconsidered otherwise "middle class" will not be able to afford their electric bliis, gas, or groceries.. farms make over $250,000 a year so that means your food prices go up as well.. EVERYTHING YOU BUY WILL INCREASE IN COST in order to pay for more government programs. But right now the middle class cannot take that weight. I do hope reason prevails here and he considers options that will actually increase jobs rather than reduce them and drive prices up.
Hopefully he won't finish what Bush started. I think I saw on Fox News this morning that Obama is changing the main religion of the US to Islam.
Fear is the Mindkiller.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
LOL... Like i could care less what religion the country is .. But yea he is more in line with Bush on his stanbds in regards to Isreal and Russia ... You bother looking at his policies on that? LOL
Don't act the fool, you aren't good at it.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Don't act the fool, you aren't good at it.
I think thats the nicest thing someone ever said to me here.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Considering the laws Islamic faith tends to bring with it, I would be more concerned about a serious bid for that if I were you. Unless of course you loathe drinking and getting to see any portion of your own wife's anatomy in public. Its great for rapists too, a guy could waltz into a building, rape every woman in sight, and so long as no other males witness it, the women go to jail for it, not him.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Considering the laws Islamic faith tends to bring with it, I would be more concerned about a serious bid for that if I were you. Unless of course you loathe drinking and getting to see any portion of your own wife's anatomy in public. Its great for rapists too, a guy could waltz into a building, rape every woman in sight, and so long as no other males witness it, the women go to jail for it, not him.
LOL no one is going to change any religion.. that is just nonsense. It isn't a concern because it will never happen, there would be marches on the white house lol
Change: pssst ... is this change?
U.S. Treasury Secretary
Lawrence Summers, former Treasury Secretary during Clinton Admin.
Timothy Geithner, NY Federal Reserve Bank President
Paul Volcker, former Federal Reserve Chairman
Robert Rubin, former Treasury Secretary during Clinton Admin and senior Counselor at Citigroup and former Chariman of Goldman Sachs.
The system consists of bankers controlling the Treasury, the major banks, the Federally chartered banks (who own the Federal Reserve), and the Federal Reserve.
It is not a "conspiracy," it is how the game is played.
We should all be bankers.
Obama is one of the biggest supporters of the bail-out program and nationalization of the financial sector. Obama has received finance money perhaps 3-to-1 compared to the McCain campaign.
Do you see how they go from finance to the Treasury to the Fed back to the Treasury?
Making FORTUNES in doing so.
Edit: Obama's second largest contributor?
Oh, my! GOLDMAN SACHS: $874, 207. NO WONDER they need YOUR money for a bail-out. ROFL.
First largest?
University of California.
Third largest?
Harvard! Here is my alumnus perspective on Harvard: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/182088
These universities are not subject to taxes, oversight, or anything else. Hehe.
Source: www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php
Hah the Last Sucker, I mean Supper.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Considering the laws Islamic faith tends to bring with it, I would be more concerned about a serious bid for that if I were you. Unless of course you loathe drinking and getting to see any portion of your own wife's anatomy in public. Its great for rapists too, a guy could waltz into a building, rape every woman in sight, and so long as no other males witness it, the women go to jail for it, not him.
LOL no one is going to change any religion.. that is just nonsense. It isn't a concern because it will never happen, there would be marches on the white house lol
I know that of course, just mentioning a hypothetical situation. You stated that you don't care what religion the country is, I simply pointed out some of the extra disadvantages that particular one brings. Personally I'd rather have a few disbutes over abortions than whether or not I am responsible for my own actions in the presence of a "corrupting" female.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
This is where socialism fails. It must be universal and everyone has to benefit from it. Public money should never be used to help only one group of people.
Helping only a certain group of people is not socialism, it's charity, and there is a big difference between the two.
Edit - I know my comment is slightly off topic - I was going to make a new topic about it @ MMORPG but I figuired I'd stick it in this thread instead since that is a perfect example. It sorta goes with the title at least.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
The banks got theirs.
Now the financing arm of GM (General Motors) is getting theirs.
I keep hearing "socialism" when it comes to helping ordinary Americans achieve a more efficient, affordable, accessible, and less expensive health care system.
Honest to God (100% real me question): Why Does the Public Support Socialism for the Wealthy but not for Ordinary Americans? [I honestly want to know, and I honestly do not know.]
Honestly, why?
The public is literally transferring wealth from themselves to the banks and causing a depression in the process, and worried about "socialism" when it comes to helping them.
Someone, please, and I mean it, help me understand that.
Thank you in advance.
Actually the public was against the bailout -- the government did it anyway, largely because folks who believe what YOU believe made them powerful enough to do so.
What got us here was accepting what YOU believe in. The public tends to be FOR the kind of socialism YOU seem to favor, and that has put the tools on place to ram the kind of socialism you are against down all our throats.
There are only a few of us liberty-minded individuals who are consistent on this. Most people want the handouts but don't want to pay for them. This has led to what you seem to be protesting against. We told ya so -- been telling ya so for decades.
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