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EvilGargamelEvilGargamel Member Posts: 85

with this games official website....  because it's simply TERRIBLE.

Forget the fact that it looks like it was built by some high school class learning visual design and Photoshop.

Forget the fact that it hasn't been updated in months... and has all old game info on it.

http://www.darkfallonline.com

and you're still left with the question....  does this look like a website that represents a AAA quality MMORPG that is launching in a few weeks and ready to support active accounts and subscribers?

If these people can't even put together a proper industry standard quality website weeks before a supposed commercial launch.. then how in gods name can anyone expect an actual functioning MMORPG to be launched?

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  • GravebladeGraveblade Member UncommonPosts: 547

    Subjective.

    Started playing mmorpg's in 1996 and have been hooked ever since. It began with Kingdom of Drakkar, Ultima Online, Everquest, DAoC, WoW...
  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    right..you have a problem..

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  • Mazer14Mazer14 Member UncommonPosts: 129

    The thing to remember is that Aventurine has made it fairly obvious they don't give a shit about publicity. The site is simple, information is fairly accurate, and it still is functional/navigatable.

    I'm glad they're focus is on making the game instead b/c that's all that really matters to me.

    I'm not entirely disagreeing with you either. It probably wouldn't hurt to do so this close to a supposed launch.

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  • goofy3kgoofy3k Member UncommonPosts: 250

    Eh well they aint a big company. And who cares about websites when the truth is in the game itself. Long as functions and has everything needed at launch time on the website who cares.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by Mazer14


    The thing to remember is that Aventurine has made it fairly obvious they don't give a shit about publicity. 



     

    That's not a positive thing to be bragging about. Just thought I should throw that out there next to the kool aid bowl.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • TalemireTalemire Member UncommonPosts: 842

    How the heck are you gonna judge a game by its website? You're a fool man. They're finally trying to push the game out, and you're flaming over a poor website? They don't have time for that junk dude - They'll work on it after the game is launched when they have less on their plate. If you want "current status," check out the test vids. Nuff said.

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  • EvilGargamelEvilGargamel Member Posts: 85
    Originally posted by Talemire


    They don't have time for that junk dude

    Ever hear of hiring a design studio to build a website for you? I mean surely if they can build a AAA mmorpg they can spend a few grand on having a nice site built.  Right???

    Innovative idea huh?

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194

    I think the only problem you have is that you have too much free time in your hand, and you troll around Darkfall forum to fill your empty days.



    I understand that the website is  very basic (it is obvious to everyone who visit it), but as a Darkfall troll, you should have followed the entire saga and you should know that Aventurine does everything at the last minute without announcing it.

    Aventurine communication is very poor, many can be the reasons, main one is that they have a very small devs team.

    Tasos himself is a developer, so it doesn't have probably enough time for PR, like Mark Jakobs or the fat guy from Funcom, which by the way with all the money they had at their disposal have produced 2 prime example of pure crap.



    They will update the website just before launch not weeks in advance, so don't try to understand why the website is not updated, because they are not gonna do it, until is necessary to do so.



    But I have an idea, since you have so much time in your hand, why don't you offer to design one.

    Maybe Tasos will give you a Beta key as reward, so you can break the NDA annd tell everyone how shit Darkfall is.

     

  • EvilGargamelEvilGargamel Member Posts: 85

    Ah ok.

    so let me get this straight -- you're saying that it takes some kind of full time, high paid, dedicated PR person to open NotePad, edit some HTML with news items and hit upload on a FTP?

    You know that takes all about 5 minutes to do right?

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  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by EvilGargamel


    Ah ok.
    so let me get this straight -- you're saying that it takes some kind of full time, high paid, dedicated PR person to open NotePad, edit some HTML with news itesm and hit upload on a FTP?
    You know that takes all about 5 minutes to do right?
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    3. a false belief or opinion: delusions of grandeur.

    4. Psychiatry. a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion. 

     

    yeah cut em some slack, theyre completely inexperienced at making MMOs. Theyve got their hands full. And dont blame it on Tasos, hes never even developed an MMO before.

     

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by EvilGargamel


    Ah ok.
    so let me get this straight -- you're saying that it takes some kind of full time, high paid, dedicated PR person to open NotePad, edit some HTML with news itesm and hit upload on a FTP?
    You know that takes all about 5 minutes to do right?
     

     

    Well, you see how few information Aventurine release in the forum, can you imagine them revamping the website?



    Look, I am not happy either the way they manage their communication (or lack of), but I excuse them because they are a really tiny team, and I hope that all their time is put on developing the game only, so the game can be decent if not good.

    If I was them, I would have found few hours a day to give more info or redesign the site, but after all I don't know what does it takes to develope a MMO and how they organise their time.



    I am not kidding myself, this game have good chances it might fail, for 2 reason.

    Firstly because they are a small team, and they might not have enough time and resources to make it fully functional.

    Secondly they might not be able to delivery  the long list of features they list on their FAQs (they are many)



    Who follow Darkfall knows this, the only people deluded to know everything might be you.

    This is not a second DnL, people ain't blind.

    Unless we see a "pay for beta" or a "buy before you see", there is no need to be so alarmed.

    Aventurine said that everyone will have the chance to play the game before they buy it.

    Then you might start bitching, and who knows, I might even join you.



    So if the game is shit, you will see it with your own very eyes before parting with your well earned money.

    I don't understand all this "beware this game is Vaporware" and then "Beware this game is a scam" that is going on in those forum.

    Criticise the design, don't put Darkfall on the same level of Mythic and Funcom, they have different budget and might do things very differently from others.

    That doesn't mean that they are scam.

    We will all have the chance to see that in December, there is no need for all this alarmism............yet.



    You might go out and have some fun until December, then you can resume your bashing after you ll have the chance to try the game.

     

  • MahloMahlo Member UncommonPosts: 814

    Absolutely. Everything about the development of this game has been shabby. That's why I can't believe there's going to be a decent product at the end of it... if there is an end.

  • UnseenXUnseenX Member Posts: 6

    Really guy's, slagging of the website is a bit lame.

    We don't  want to  play the site do we, I think the game may hold my attention a little more.

    If you actully have a life its quite simple.

    Either the game comes out or it dosn't

    Its either goods or not

    No-ones payed anything yet have they, so why get sooo petty.

    I've been following this game a long time and I'll be made up if it ever comes.

    As for release dates and  graphics, I really could'nt give a shit.

  • ganbeeganbee Member Posts: 233

    AOC had a great website!

  • Thoric485Thoric485 Member UncommonPosts: 525

    Here is a good professional site. But they still seem to be lacking the "AAA quality MMORPG" part. Go figure.

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  • berniebearberniebear Member Posts: 228
    Originally posted by EvilGargamel


    with this games official website....  because it's simply TERRIBLE.
    Forget the fact that it looks like it was built by some high school class learning visual design and Photoshop.
    Forget the fact that it hasn't been updated in months... and has all old game info on it.
    http://www.darkfallonline.com
    and you're still left with the question....  does this look like a website that represents a AAA quality MMORPG that is launching in a few weeks and ready to support active accounts and subscribers?
    If these people can't even put together a proper industry standard quality website weeks before a supposed commercial launch.. then how in gods name can anyone expect an actual functioning MMORPG to be launched?



     

    What game do you play? War? with NO forums? Wow?? with horribly ugly forums?? please tell me

  • Battle-SotABattle-SotA Member Posts: 20

    Aventurine is an indie developer, I expect some things like this from such a small company.  I expect that the game will have its fair share of flaws as well, but I still think it looks like it will be fun as shit.  Would be better to compare it with something like Ryzom rather than WoW.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276
    Originally posted by ganbee


    AOC had a great website!



     

    Yeah! That should shut everyone up. A great website means a good game, and a horrible website means a horrible game.

  • berniebearberniebear Member Posts: 228
    Originally posted by Battle-SotA


    Aventurine is an indie developer, I expect some things like this from such a small company.  I expect that the game will have its fair share of flaws as well, but I still think it looks like it will be fun as shit.  Would be better to compare it with something like Ryzom rather than WoW.



     

    What's so good about War forums??? They suck and they are ugly and clunky

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by berniebear

    Originally posted by Battle-SotA


    Aventurine is an indie developer, I expect some things like this from such a small company.  I expect that the game will have its fair share of flaws as well, but I still think it looks like it will be fun as shit.  Would be better to compare it with something like Ryzom rather than WoW.



     

    What's so good about War forums??? They suck and they are ugly and clunky

    You must be mistaken sir, WAR doesnt have its own forums. Perhaps you are mistakenly thinking of the Warhammer Alliance boards?

     

  • foliotfoliot Member Posts: 88

    I kinda like their website.  It is simple and to the point.  My only gripes are that the feature list is never updated, and the site says copyright @ 2007 on the bottom.

  • berniebearberniebear Member Posts: 228
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by berniebear

    Originally posted by Battle-SotA


    Aventurine is an indie developer, I expect some things like this from such a small company.  I expect that the game will have its fair share of flaws as well, but I still think it looks like it will be fun as shit.  Would be better to compare it with something like Ryzom rather than WoW.



     

    What's so good about War forums??? They suck and they are ugly and clunky

    You must be mistaken sir, WAR doesnt have its own forums. Perhaps you are mistakenly thinking of the Warhammer Alliance boards?

     



     

    Lol I ment WOW, yea I knew that, if u look at my previous post I aid War had no forum

     

    Oppsy

  • MyPreciousssMyPreciousss Member Posts: 427
    Originally posted by EvilGargamel


    with this games official website....  because it's simply TERRIBLE.
    Forget the fact that it looks like it was built by some high school class learning visual design and Photoshop.
    Forget the fact that it hasn't been updated in months... and has all old game info on it.
    http://www.darkfallonline.com
    and you're still left with the question....  does this look like a website that represents a AAA quality MMORPG that is launching in a few weeks and ready to support active accounts and subscribers?
    If these people can't even put together a proper industry standard quality website weeks before a supposed commercial launch.. then how in gods name can anyone expect an actual functioning MMORPG to be launched?

    Their website sucks big time and you have zillions of better made amateur websites on the net so I'm just puzzled that these guys can't/don't want (put anything you want here) a decent website. The trouble isn't the website per se but the minimal attraction a product is supposed to exert to gain players.

    A nice website would be cheap and would serve as the best free advertisement for these guys, especially if they don't count on usual ads! As an equivalent from another humble company I'm thinking of the Chronicles of Spellborn's website, nothing revolutionary really but cute and purposeful, and it was revamped recently.

    So come on "hardcore" fanbois don't serve me this shit "website doesn't matter, only game": do you think that hesitant players who don't spend their days looking at videos and overhyping the game on all forums will have a good image and trust Aventurine to make a good game (I am not saying they won't though) if their visit card is that shitty. And if they don't have the minimal resources/will to design a decent website, how the ignorant player who is wooed by so many other games will still think as a fanboi "oki their website sux but maybe their game is worth a try". It's a sad decision and bad move from Aventurine really, thinking how many efforts and years they put in a mmorpg but are incapable of having an ok site.

  • Mazer14Mazer14 Member UncommonPosts: 129
    Originally posted by Enigma

    Originally posted by Mazer14


    The thing to remember is that Aventurine has made it fairly obvious they don't give a shit about publicity. 



     

    That's not a positive thing to be bragging about. Just thought I should throw that out there next to the kool aid bowl.

     

    And if you could point out where I bragged about this fact, I'll give you a shiny quarter.

     

    Bottom line is, the site isn't great. But it works.

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