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Lobotomist
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With all due respect to Blizzard as excelent company , I think it is time to say NO to World of Warcraft!
12 million users = 12 million reasons for game developers to continue feeding us theme park simplified grind based carrot on the stick abominations they today call MMO
If you go and buy WoTLK you are voting with your wallet for continuation of the trend that destroyed Sandbox , complex virtual worlds.
I just want to remind you of that.
Its up to us gamers to vote for a change now.
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Just wait for Darkfall or something. You know there's going to be millions of people who pay for the same recycled crap they've done for the last 2 years.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
as the wow advertisment ticks the 7 hours left to release at the bottom of this page, lolz
Seriosuly, I lol'd so hard.
You dont even have any good concrete explanation why to not support it.
You just think because it has 11, not 12 milion supporters its a game that needs to be destroyed?
Well, its the best selling and all that game in the world, and there is a reason for that.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Ok where should we cast our vote then? Tell us all the awesome sandbox game that deserves our votes.
Call me silly, but I think any company that puts together a well built, polished, fun MMO deserves all the votes it gets. Sandbox or not.
Blindly throwing money at a POS game, sandbox or not, send out the wrong message to companies which is why there are no decent sandbox games.
I am afraid it's too late...
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan
But it's fun and I'm looking forward to it, getting it at midnight.
Sandbox, complex world?!??! Can't I just go outside and be in a complex sandbox world.
I just wanna go home and play a game and leave my complex sandbox at work where it belongs.
The only thing I could agree about WoW is it creates ADD morons who usually don't give other games a fair shot because they're not like the polished, 4 year old full of content game they just came from. That's just a side effect I guess.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I agree. Darkfall is releasing in just one month. After that, WoW will be lucky to keep 1 million subscriptions. Darkfall with change the entire MMORPG industry. After Darkfall releases, for the next 4 or 5 years, all games will be Darkfall clones. People will wonder if any game can ever compete with the success of Darkfall.
It's not up to us gamers, it's up to the developers of Darkfall.
But, but... I enjoy WoW. I have fun when I play and I'm just about to get tons of new content.
I realize it's to blame for every woe the MMO Industry is in at the moment but it keeps pushing out tons of free content. It's easy to play and I don't feel like I need to invest 20 to 30 hours a week into it just to keep up.
Even though Blizzard has 12 Million + Subs I actually feel like they listen to at least some of their player base. They keep improving little things in the game like Finding Groups, Over Dependency on gear, Small class issues, searing differences in Racial Abilities, Mounts, Gold influx and many, many other things.
It's easy to run on my computers. I know it's not the DX10, needs 10 Gigs of Ram and a QUAD CORE Galliath Proc type of game that has photo-real graphics but I'll be darned if I don't get a smile everytime I go back to stormwind and it still looks and "feels" like warcraft. Better yet, I can play it on my iMac 24", iMac 20" and my powerbook when I'm away on business. I know it's not "awesome-sauce" to cater a game to us Apple people but c'mon... that has to be worth something, no?
And I know it's not as great as "insert next new great game to be released" when it comes to PVP, PVE, Arena, Questing, BattleGrounds, Trading, Community, Globalt Events, Crafting, Resourcing but it has a little of all of that and most of it... is pretty darn OK. AND again, I don't feel like I need to invest 20 to 30 hours a week in any of those things to be amused by any of them.
And I know it's always been a flawless victory with ZERO problems but overall, in the last few years that I've been playing WoW I've never encountered a problem that's been all that bad. The one time I had customer support was plentiful and helpful. I still to this DAY have a character in EQ2 (my first druid) that is lost in never never land... and SEO never helped me.
Listen... You can tell me to blindly leave WoW because you think it's best for the industry and you can certainly tell me that it's Blizzards fault that every other development company can't manage to come up with a decent product but what counts to me as a long time MMO'er and gamer who's grown up and wants to play a good game is that I can play something that can put a smile on my face, gives me the opportunity to connect with my friends, shows me a good time on those long winter nights when I've got nothing else to do and offers a host goodies to play with.
Until you can sit there and tell WoW can't do that... I'm sorry, you'll just have to deal with that press release coming out of Blizzard that announces 15 Million Subs.
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I don't understand why any consumer feels it is ok to pay money and spend time using a product that isn't as good as what they already have simply to give competition a chance.
No one is obligated to spend time/money on a new game for months/years just so that a new MMO can have a chance to MAYBE get better and be worthy.
It is the responsibilty of game designers to make their products competitive at launch and not xpect people to fund live development.
I agree. Darkfall is releasing in just one month. After that, WoW will be lucky to keep 1 million subscriptions. Darkfall with change the entire MMORPG industry. After Darkfall releases, for the next 4 or 5 years, all games will be Darkfall clones. People will wonder if any game can ever compete with the success of Darkfall.
That's a pretty funny joke..... Oh wait you're serious.
If DF doesn't pull a DnL it still won't even be a pimple on the ass of WoW.
I stopped supporting WoW years ago before someone calls me a fanboi.
Agreed.
People are voting with their wallets, and most are voting for WoW (and I doubt a lot of people will buy it feeling that the game sucks). If you don't like it then feel free not to vote for it, but I think it's silly telling people not to buy it especially if they enjoy it.
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Well I've played WoW, and I don't feel like playing it any more.
But you can't really blame Blizzard for all the WoW clones out there.
WoW is a fairly good game in many ways, even though I'm fed up with it.
Games dont deserve a "fair shot". If they fail, it's their own fault. Don't put blame anywhere else.
I agree. Darkfall is releasing in just one month. After that, WoW will be lucky to keep 1 million subscriptions. Darkfall with change the entire MMORPG industry. After Darkfall releases, for the next 4 or 5 years, all games will be Darkfall clones. People will wonder if any game can ever compete with the success of Darkfall.
It's not up to us gamers, it's up to the developers of Darkfall.
Wake up Jimmy, you've stained your sheets!
lol...Though I think Darkfall looks like a decent game, and I'll be sure to give it a try, I really don't think it'll have a big following like WoW, just because it is not as simple, or as easy. PvP drives at least 25% of casual gamers away on it's own. Hardcore full loot PvP drives even more away. Not to say that it's bad, or that I don't personally enjoy it, but it does take the fun away for some people. Not to mention the foul mouthed hooligans who delight in making people's gaming expirience miserable. If everyone approached PvP in an honorable way, then perhaps PvP centric MMO's wouldn't have such a bad rep, but that's not going to happen...
and niether is Darkfall going to be the next WoW.
the only true player versus player game that will ever come close to wow in turms of player base is CoD 4 perhaps the new CoD or the elusive and highly unlikely Halo 4. Darkfall will be lucky to garner WAR's sub numbers much less WoW's. Get your head outta the clouds bro. Welcome to reality.
I agree. Darkfall is releasing in just one month. After that, WoW will be lucky to keep 1 million subscriptions. Darkfall with change the entire MMORPG industry. After Darkfall releases, for the next 4 or 5 years, all games will be Darkfall clones. People will wonder if any game can ever compete with the success of Darkfall.
It's not up to us gamers, it's up to the developers of Darkfall.
Wake up Jimmy, you've stained your sheets!
lol...Though I think Darkfall looks like a decent game, and I'll be sure to give it a try, I really don't think it'll have a big following like WoW, just because it is not as simple, or as easy. PvP drives at least 25% of casual gamers away on it's own. Hardcore full loot PvP drives even more away. Not to say that it's bad, or that I don't personally enjoy it, but it does take the fun away for some people. Not to mention the foul mouthed hooligans who delight in making people's gaming expirience miserable. If everyone approached PvP in an honorable way, then perhaps PvP centric MMO's wouldn't have such a bad rep, but that's not going to happen...
and niether is Darkfall going to be the next WoW.
Take it back. Darkfall is going to be the bestest game ever! much better than WoW. You are just a hater on Darkfall.
Wait till it releases at the end of December and you'll see how wrong you are.
I agree. Darkfall is releasing in just one month. After that, WoW will be lucky to keep 1 million subscriptions. Darkfall with change the entire MMORPG industry. After Darkfall releases, for the next 4 or 5 years, all games will be Darkfall clones. People will wonder if any game can ever compete with the success of Darkfall.
It's not up to us gamers, it's up to the developers of Darkfall.
Wake up Jimmy, you've stained your sheets!
lol...Though I think Darkfall looks like a decent game, and I'll be sure to give it a try, I really don't think it'll have a big following like WoW, just because it is not as simple, or as easy. PvP drives at least 25% of casual gamers away on it's own. Hardcore full loot PvP drives even more away. Not to say that it's bad, or that I don't personally enjoy it, but it does take the fun away for some people. Not to mention the foul mouthed hooligans who delight in making people's gaming expirience miserable. If everyone approached PvP in an honorable way, then perhaps PvP centric MMO's wouldn't have such a bad rep, but that's not going to happen...
and niether is Darkfall going to be the next WoW.
Take it back. Darkfall is going to be the bestest game ever! much better than WoW. You are just a hater on Darkfall.
Wait till it releases at the end of December and you'll see how wrong you are.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
most gamers are too stupid or too lazy to handle a sandbox game. thats why SWG failed so bad people logged in and expected the game to funnel thier limited minds into where to go. thats why you had "i'm bored what do i do now?" or a calling for endgame content.
thats why WoW is so successful, it caters to the stupid MEMEME types that need that next piece of loot that brings up my str +1 so i can go on and get that next loot that brings up my STR + 2 woot!!!!
let them stay in WoW its like an asylum for the instant gratification slobs ... games dont need 11 million subscirbers to be successful ... hell eve doesnt have that many players and its hugely successful by mosts opinions. Darkfall, Fallen Earth if they do around EVE's numbers they will be fine, they don't need the WoWbois coming to them and demanding easier dumbed down gameplay.
I don't think SWG failed, just because it didn't get the sub numbers of WoW. Even WoW clones don't get the sub numbers of WoW, no game does.
Does that mean every game is a failure except WoW?
Success=profit.
I think SWG would have made a profit if they had left it alone. I think a good SWG type game could make a profit now if you kept development costs down.
I don't think we can define success as doing as many subs as WoW.
Of course Darkfall will have a Billion subscribers, so it will do just fine.
I agree. Darkfall is releasing in just one month. After that, WoW will be lucky to keep 1 million subscriptions. Darkfall with change the entire MMORPG industry. After Darkfall releases, for the next 4 or 5 years, all games will be Darkfall clones. People will wonder if any game can ever compete with the success of Darkfall.
It's not up to us gamers, it's up to the developers of Darkfall.
Wake up Jimmy, you've stained your sheets!
lol...Though I think Darkfall looks like a decent game, and I'll be sure to give it a try, I really don't think it'll have a big following like WoW, just because it is not as simple, or as easy. PvP drives at least 25% of casual gamers away on it's own. Hardcore full loot PvP drives even more away. Not to say that it's bad, or that I don't personally enjoy it, but it does take the fun away for some people. Not to mention the foul mouthed hooligans who delight in making people's gaming expirience miserable. If everyone approached PvP in an honorable way, then perhaps PvP centric MMO's wouldn't have such a bad rep, but that's not going to happen...
and niether is Darkfall going to be the next WoW.
Take it back. Darkfall is going to be the bestest game ever! much better than WoW. You are just a hater on Darkfall.
Wait till it releases at the end of December and you'll see how wrong you are.
either your being sarcastic your you really need to seek some help bro Darkfall will be a good game but far from the best.
This is true
I agree. Darkfall is releasing in just one month. After that, WoW will be lucky to keep 1 million subscriptions. Darkfall with change the entire MMORPG industry. After Darkfall releases, for the next 4 or 5 years, all games will be Darkfall clones. People will wonder if any game can ever compete with the success of Darkfall.
It's not up to us gamers, it's up to the developers of Darkfall.
Wake up Jimmy, you've stained your sheets!
lol...Though I think Darkfall looks like a decent game, and I'll be sure to give it a try, I really don't think it'll have a big following like WoW, just because it is not as simple, or as easy. PvP drives at least 25% of casual gamers away on it's own. Hardcore full loot PvP drives even more away. Not to say that it's bad, or that I don't personally enjoy it, but it does take the fun away for some people. Not to mention the foul mouthed hooligans who delight in making people's gaming expirience miserable. If everyone approached PvP in an honorable way, then perhaps PvP centric MMO's wouldn't have such a bad rep, but that's not going to happen...
and niether is Darkfall going to be the next WoW.
Take it back. Darkfall is going to be the bestest game ever! much better than WoW. You are just a hater on Darkfall.
Wait till it releases at the end of December and you'll see how wrong you are.
either your being sarcastic your you really need to seek some help bro Darkfall will be a good game but far from the best.
That's what they said about WoW.
think about what you just said. Because most people don't care. Most wow-players know nothing about mmo's. They just play the game because they like it. We are just that 0.000001% of the players (ex-players) that do know something about mmo's and want a change.... and that's quite hipocrite... There hasen't been a GREAT succesfull mmo since wow. Exept for wow itself. A lot of games came, stayed for a while and went. Lots of games were overhyped ("omfg!!! this game will be THE wowkiller! that game will be the wowkiller!!!.. omfg if you don't believe me what i say your a nub!...." and that kind of ussless crap).. You can say "oh but that one mmo is/was really nice!" oh ye sure, there came out a lot of good stable mmo's, lotro for example, is a good game, healthy community, lots of depth, almost no bugs, GW was/is a good game, other promissing examples like vanguard that was actually a big mistake but now seems to become a good game.... I believe you can think out some examples for yourself. Lot's of companies started making mmo's after the succes of wow to get the money out of your wallet, you probably know the word "wowclone" wowclone here, wowclone there... yes it seems there were/are a lot of wowclones.... (not...) .. There are so manny mmo's today it's hard to choose one, and even more mmo's are comming! I think we will get an overkill soon, and then the mmo market will colapse. Because every mmo brings more of the same. The last time i saw something new was since the release of wow, and even that game stole ideas from daoc, uo and eq! So that's what I mean when I say you're "it's up to us gamers to vote for a change now" is hipocrite... a change, for what? killing x amount of tigers again? collection x amount of boar hides? bring my letter to that shitty person on place x???!!!! is THAT the change??? ah, i guess not. And like I said, most wow players don't care and don't even know they are actually doing the same boring thing over and over again. And that's with actually all mmo's. There should be a dev that should re-found the mmo genre. What we need is some fresh air. And at this moment there is no fresh air.
And as I said: Most people don't care. They will just go to a local gamestore in an hour or so (WOTLK will release in europe in exact 1 hour now!) they buy WOTLK, install the game and play for countless hours again and again and again.......
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