anyone else notice from 2:15-2:20 it was infact Warhammer Mark of Chaos and not Darkfall? oh and 'free to kill anything and anyone' contradicts 'free to choose between PvP and PvE'
aside from that nice vid. that mounted combat was really nice.
Ugh, looks like some corny fan-made video. : /. Lots of old footage and stills too. Its quite funny at the end, where you expect some like company logos and some kind of release date, but nothing shows.
The video was taken by an Italian gaming website, it's not an official video from Aventurine.
Ugh, looks like some corny fan-made video. : /. Lots of old footage and stills too. Its quite funny at the end, where you expect some like company logos and some kind of release date, but nothing shows.
The video was taken by an Italian gaming website, it's not an official video from Aventurine.
The video was completely approved by Tasos, I can assure you that. This was no obscure video unknown by Adventurine. This was MADE in Adventurine's office. So, wth are you talking about?
Originally posted by Hhussk Pretty sure I'm looking at the new footage. Seems to run smoothly. Some of the animations are a little weird to look at right now. The woman ran kinda weird. About graphics. Graphics is the least of my considerations towards playing a game. If it runs smooth and I like the game mechanics, that's all I need. Why worry about graphics, anyhow. You can update graphics as you go. But when a game is based on faulty mechanics, you're pretty much stuck within the framework.
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have? You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
You can probably buy the FanBoi blinders at the same store you found your Troll blinders, just on another aisle. You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me. And on a side note, if I don't like what I get out of Darkfall, I'll drop them like a bad habit. If I'm a FanBoi, then you'd really hate me as a Troll, flaming away.
Saying that you'll play a MUD, a text based, game doesn't mean anything to me. It's like reading a book and watching a movie. I'll read a good book before I'll watch a crappy movie, but one has little to do with the other. Just because you play MUDs doesn't mean that you have a greater perspective on good gameplay. Yes, a movie with crappy special effects can still be good, but if the effects are crappy, the acting is crappy and the plot is lackluster, then most likely it's gonna flop.
The gameplay 'may' be spectacular, but I haven't had a chance to play it, so I have to base my opinion of the game off of the small amount of leaked beta footage that I have at my disposal, and from what I've seen, which isn't much I admit, the graphics are sub par, and the animation is so bad as to be laughable.
That leads me to believe that the whole game will be poorly done. No serious company that has put enough time and money into a game to program the advanced AI and other features that this game purportedly has, would allow it's graphics and animation department to represent it's product so poorly.
Ugh, looks like some corny fan-made video. : /. Lots of old footage and stills too. Its quite funny at the end, where you expect some like company logos and some kind of release date, but nothing shows.
The video was taken by an Italian gaming website, it's not an official video from Aventurine.
The video was completely approved by Tasos, I can assure you that. This was no obscure video unknown by Adventurine. This was MADE in Adventurine's office. So, wth are you talking about?
I was replying to the message that I quoted, where he was expecting company logos and release information. That is something you would expect from an official video, not from a preview video made by an un-affiliated website.
Obviously the people who rail on these videos never played Ultima Online. Anyone who played UO has already fallen in love with a game with a 2d fixed 3/4 bird's eye view. All the dexers did was swing their weapons the same way everytime. Only the noise of it striking changed according to what was equipped. DF is aiming to please these people. They aren't trying to screen an IMAX version of what a graphical mmorpg is supposed to look like. I guarantee the graphics/animations could be much worse, but if they get half of their promised features in, there will be hundreds of thousands of happy, loyal customers. The End.
I've noticed in the last hour or so since the video was released that no one is using the term "Vaporware" anymore. So, I'm guessing that you all now believe there is a game, and have moved on to phase II.
Phase I - Call Darkfall "Vaporware". Phase II - Call any video/screenshots and reviews "trash", "worst ever", (et al.). Announce to the world that no one will play it. Phase III - When open beta arrives, focus on all the bugs. Once again, announce that the game is "fail" and will never last. Phase IV - When game goes live, use every opportunity to complain about crashes, bugs, late fixes, etc. Once again announce that the game will crash.
I have never termed the game vaporware. There's obviously a game here somewhere. But... We haven't seen actual evidence of an MMO. We really don't know if this game can be logged into from anywhere other than the Adventurine offices.
Not yet anyway.
I didn't realize that the convention center at the ADW was located in Aventurine offices....
You know the video that was played online with people from different locations....
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
I've noticed in the last hour or so since the video was released that no one is using the term "Vaporware" anymore. So, I'm guessing that you all now believe there is a game, and have moved on to phase II.
Phase I - Call Darkfall "Vaporware". Phase II - Call any video/screenshots and reviews "trash", "worst ever", (et al.). Announce to the world that no one will play it. Phase III - When open beta arrives, focus on all the bugs. Once again, announce that the game is "fail" and will never last. Phase IV - When game goes live, use every opportunity to complain about crashes, bugs, late fixes, etc. Once again announce that the game will crash.
I have never termed the game vaporware. There's obviously a game here somewhere. But... We haven't seen actual evidence of an MMO. We really don't know if this game can be logged into from anywhere other than the Adventurine offices.
Not yet anyway.
I didn't realize that the convention center at the ADW was located in Aventurine offices....
You know the video that was played online with people from different locations....
Actually, you may be correct. But, I don't know that people from "different" locations were logged on. I only know that ONE PC at the site was used to demo the game. I'm not positive, but I thought that was the case. It could also just have been a demo running on the local PC for all we know. Not saying it was but it could have been.
Have you guys ever thought of playing a game for gameplay value rather then graphics? Some of the best games out there have had completely horrible graphics. Now I'm not saying the graphics are bad or good. They honestly are pretty meh....but how does the gameplay feel? In every super duper graphical MMO what is there to do besides grind to max level in two days then quit because you are bored? How many scenarios can you run before your eyes begind to bleed? That is what you should ask yourselves.
Newsflash: We're less than 2 months from 2009. There's absolutely no reason in the world why we can't have both great gameplay and great graphics. Anything less is unacceptable.
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Originally posted by xaldraxius
Originally posted by Hhussk
Originally posted by xaldraxius
Originally posted by Hhussk
Pretty sure I'm looking at the new footage.
Seems to run smoothly. Some of the animations are a little weird to look at right now. The woman ran kinda weird.
About graphics. Graphics is the least of my considerations towards playing a game. If it runs smooth and I like the game mechanics, that's all I need.
Why worry about graphics, anyhow. You can update graphics as you go. But when a game is based on faulty mechanics, you're pretty much stuck within the framework.
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have?
You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
You can probably buy the FanBoi blinders at the same store you found your Troll blinders, just on another aisle.
You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me.
And on a side note, if I don't like what I get out of Darkfall, I'll drop them like a bad habit. If I'm a FanBoi, then you'd really hate me as a Troll, flaming away.
Saying that you'll play a MUD, a text based, game doesn't mean anything to me. It's like reading a book and watching a movie. I'll read a good book before I'll watch a crappy movie, but one has little to do with the other. Just because you play MUDs doesn't mean that you have a greater perspective on good gameplay. Yes, a movie with crappy special effects can still be good, but if the effects are crappy, the acting is crappy and the plot is lackluster, then most likely it's gonna flop.
The gameplay 'may' be spectacular, but I haven't had a chance to play it, so I have to base my opinion of the game off of the small amount of leaked beta footage that I have at my disposal, and from what I've seen, which isn't much I admit, the graphics are sub par, and the animation is so bad as to be laughable.
That leads me to believe that the whole game will be poorly done. No serious company that has put enough time and money into a game to program the advanced AI and other features that this game perportedly has, would allow it's graphics and animation department to represent it's product so poorly.
You don't have to do anything. You could just wait like everyone else.
And by the way, almost all books are better than the movies based off of them. Your book - movie analogy is broke. Nice try, though.
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Originally posted by Hhussk Pretty sure I'm looking at the new footage. Seems to run smoothly. Some of the animations are a little weird to look at right now. The woman ran kinda weird. About graphics. Graphics is the least of my considerations towards playing a game. If it runs smooth and I like the game mechanics, that's all I need. Why worry about graphics, anyhow. You can update graphics as you go. But when a game is based on faulty mechanics, you're pretty much stuck within the framework.
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have? You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
You can probably buy the FanBoi blinders at the same store you found your Troll blinders, just on another aisle. You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me. And on a side note, if I don't like what I get out of Darkfall, I'll drop them like a bad habit. If I'm a FanBoi, then you'd really hate me as a Troll, flaming away.
Saying that you'll play a MUD, a text based, game doesn't mean anything to me. It's like reading a book and watching a movie. I'll read a good book before I'll watch a crappy movie, but one has little to do with the other. Just because you play MUDs doesn't mean that you have a greater perspective on good gameplay. Yes, a movie with crappy special effects can still be good, but if the effects are crappy, the acting is crappy and the plot is lackluster, then most likely it's gonna flop. The gameplay 'may' be spectacular, but I haven't had a chance to play it, so I have to base my opinion of the game off of the small amount of leaked beta footage that I have at my disposal, and from what I've seen, which isn't much I admit, the graphics are sub par, and the animation is so bad as to be laughable. That leads me to believe that the whole game will be poorly done. No serious company that has put enough time and money into a game to program the advanced AI and other features that this game perportedly has, would allow it's graphics and animation department to represent it's product so poorly.
You don't have to do anything. You could just wait like everyone else. And by the way, almost all books are better than the movies based off of them. Your book - movie analogy is broke. Nice try, though.
Ummm...
You missed the entire point about the book/movie analogy didn't you?
It wasn't an analogy comparing the two at all. It was actually just the opposite. You said you'd play a MUD which has no graphics at all as a way of saying that, to you, graphics aren't as important as gameplay. I'm saying that, much like books and movies, they are two different mediums.
Catch on now?
((And if everyone is just waiting, what's all the hubbub about, and why are you trying so hard to defend the game?))
Can't wait to play ...and stretch this bow and aim myself.. Amazing
Fuck ya.. Cause everyone knows sretching a bow and aiming is some A+ amazing gameplay.
Just give it up already.
You know that video looks like pure junk. Just do yourself a favor and admit it and stop living in a dream world.
I am excited.. dude , and see you getting angry about me getting excited adds to my pleasure ..
Do you notice how he try to aim to the point before the goblin taking into account the way of arrow and the estimated way of the goblin ..?
This game is like made for me ! finally ..
Hey DarthRaiden, I was reading some of the tester comments that the AI was pretty awesome. One guy wrote that he faced off with a goblin, waiting for it to make its move before he would release his arrow. The goblin was doing the same thing, waiting for him. Kinda humorous to see yourself out-maneuvered by a goblin.
That will be very interesting to try out ? finally some mobs as much difficult to handle as real players ? that would be so unique and unseen to this day in MMORPG's...
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Seems to run smoothly. Some of the animations are a little weird to look at right now. The woman ran kinda weird.
About graphics. Graphics is the least of my considerations towards playing a game. If it runs smooth and I like the game mechanics, that's all I need.
Why worry about graphics, anyhow. You can update graphics as you go. But when a game is based on faulty mechanics, you're pretty much stuck within the framework.
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have?
You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
You can probably buy the FanBoi blinders at the same store you found your Troll blinders, just on another aisle.
You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me.
And on a side note, if I don't like what I get out of Darkfall, I'll drop them like a bad habit. If I'm a FanBoi, then you'd really hate me as a Troll, flaming away.
Saying that you'll play a MUD, a text based, game doesn't mean anything to me. It's like reading a book and watching a movie. I'll read a good book before I'll watch a crappy movie, but one has little to do with the other. Just because you play MUDs doesn't mean that you have a greater perspective on good gameplay. Yes, a movie with crappy special effects can still be good, but if the effects are crappy, the acting is crappy and the plot is lackluster, then most likely it's gonna flop.
The gameplay 'may' be spectacular, but I haven't had a chance to play it, so I have to base my opinion of the game off of the small amount of leaked beta footage that I have at my disposal, and from what I've seen, which isn't much I admit, the graphics are sub par, and the animation is so bad as to be laughable.
That leads me to believe that the whole game will be poorly done. No serious company that has put enough time and money into a game to program the advanced AI and other features that this game perportedly has, would allow it's graphics and animation department to represent it's product so poorly.
You don't have to do anything. You could just wait like everyone else.
And by the way, almost all books are better than the movies based off of them. Your book - movie analogy is broke. Nice try, though.
Ummm...
You missed the entire point about the book/movie analogy didn't you?
It wasn't an analogy comparing the two at all. It was actually just the opposite. You said you'd play a MUD which has no graphics at all as a way of saying that, to you, graphics aren't as important as gameplay. I'm saying that, much like books and movies, they are two different mediums.
Catch on now?
I get what they are saying. I actually prefer movies over books. Yeah the book may be more detailed or at least seem that way. But why I like movies better is because they can show you somthing in 2 seconds what a book can take a few pages to explain.I think the more senses you have involved in something there is more immersion. Now if movies had smell and touch it would be even better.
The better the graphics the more immersed I get, now I can live without them cuz Im playing FFXI right now and its not known for the best graphics. But if the graphics were better it would make the game better to me. Granted it still has the same gameplay. I think there needs to be a good balance between gameplay and graphics. As much as i hear that UO used to be a good game, I couln't stand to play with those graphics today.
The video i watched was for sure actual game play footage,unlike that fake WOW advertisement i see on this site showing unrealistic game play in WOW[scripted video more like it].I liked the speed of the combat ,realistic and not like the F2P asian games.
That is it for the good points lol.The detail in the players/armour was very bad.The movement also looked like a game more than it did realistic movement.I already have a very good idea what to expect from this game and it won't be anything to WOW me,pardon the pun.
You know what the game looks like to me?remember might and magic,wel lit was a good game for it's time but that was a long time ago.
Just like the games AION/Huxley ,i will be interested in trying both of them,but i don't have high hopes for either.
Was that your rating of the video? 4/10? if so,it is an accurate one ,i would prolly give the video maybe a 5/10,6/10 if i was real generous.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me.
who cares? this isn't fucking 1992 anymore. I'am sure you'll be happy playing Darkfall with the other 100 people because after watching that video that's the total amount that's going to be playing.
That shit looks like EQ1
Who cares? Obviously you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be here in a Darkfall thread.
EQ classic (pre-luclin) animations where very well done, nothing to do with what can be seen in this video. There is no need for more computer power, only there is a need for talent and care for your game, two things that these guys obviously don't have.
Not sure how to feel about this. The world, buildings and so forth look real good, not the best but good. The characters and animation is horrendous to say thre least. Not sure if they have the talent to fix that this late in the game.
Not sure how to feel about this. The world, buildings and so forth look real good, not the best but good. The characters and animation is horrendous to say thre least. Not sure if they have the talent to fix that this late in the game.
Swinging the sword and hitting and strafing was pretty good for me ..think you mean the running animation needs some work ..well an opinion how ever i ll take gameplay over animations
Do you really meant of having talent on fixing animations? lol
Didn't you know they developers of MMORPG/FPS and not t Pixar studios producing "pocahontas 3" ?
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Higher quality version about 10 times better looking than the low quality version. Same video so still short but u can actually see the shadows the blood, and the wildlife
HERE YOU GO http://rs455.rapidshare.com/files/16...orpg_italy.AVI Higher quality version about 10 times better looking than the low quality version. Same video so still short but u can actually see the shadows the blood, and the wildlife
Link didn't work.
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
Absolutely terrible, after the shock of it I just couldn’t stop watching it and laughing, 8 years of development for this? After all those endless arguments with the supporters and their hype about how incredible and revolutionary Darkfall would be ,not to mention the developers, and this is it, farcical. No need to say anymore, looks like this has been a rude awaking for some judging by the responses on the official board. If Darkfall does start open beta or launch next month which I very much doubt it will, prepare to be even more disappointed. Remember, this 1 min heavily edited clip represents the best they could or would show 1 month from launch, everything else is probably even worse, still in "internal beta testing" stage or just non existent. Quite possibly the worst pre launch beta gameplay preview video ever, lets hope the game is at least a little better.
Well, after this, is it ok to hope you won't be visiting these forums?
Have you guys ever thought of playing a game for gameplay value rather then graphics? Some of the best games out there have had completely horrible graphics. Now I'm not saying the graphics are bad or good. They honestly are pretty meh....but how does the gameplay feel? In every super duper graphical MMO what is there to do besides grind to max level in two days then quit because you are bored? How many scenarios can you run before your eyes begind to bleed? That is what you should ask yourselves.
Newsflash: We're less than 2 months from 2009. There's absolutely no reason in the world why we can't have both great gameplay and great graphics. Anything less is unacceptable.
Yeah, tell that to Mythic, Funcom, Blizzard. I'm sure they will have something to say about this.
You know, it's really hard to sort through all the BS associated with this game to figure out what is real and what isn't?
Sure i'm not so clever because i got to give up on it.
About the video there is a thing i cannot understand and that is why Aventurine allowed to release a video like that?.
They are so careful about the information allowed to be published, they said that this is for the good of the game, i can understand it. But now this video is here .
Not sure how to feel about this. The world, buildings and so forth look real good, not the best but good. The characters and animation is horrendous to say thre least. Not sure if they have the talent to fix that this late in the game.
Swinging the sword and hitting and strafing was pretty good for me ..think you mean the running animation needs some work ..well an opinion how ever i ll take gameplay over animations
Do you really meant of having talent on fixing animations? lol
Didn't you know they developers of MMORPG/FPS and not t Pixar studios producing "pocahontas 3" ?
So you mean the Pixar guys made the running animations (running, walking, dancing, kissing whatever) in Second Life? that cost anthing between 0.50 cents to a couple of bucks each?? And look 1000 times better?? COME ON.
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What video are you watching? :P
The video was taken by an Italian gaming website, it's not an official video from Aventurine.
The video was taken by an Italian gaming website, it's not an official video from Aventurine.
The video was completely approved by Tasos, I can assure you that. This was no obscure video unknown by Adventurine. This was MADE in Adventurine's office. So, wth are you talking about?
Saying that you'll play a MUD, a text based, game doesn't mean anything to me. It's like reading a book and watching a movie. I'll read a good book before I'll watch a crappy movie, but one has little to do with the other. Just because you play MUDs doesn't mean that you have a greater perspective on good gameplay. Yes, a movie with crappy special effects can still be good, but if the effects are crappy, the acting is crappy and the plot is lackluster, then most likely it's gonna flop.
The gameplay 'may' be spectacular, but I haven't had a chance to play it, so I have to base my opinion of the game off of the small amount of leaked beta footage that I have at my disposal, and from what I've seen, which isn't much I admit, the graphics are sub par, and the animation is so bad as to be laughable.
That leads me to believe that the whole game will be poorly done. No serious company that has put enough time and money into a game to program the advanced AI and other features that this game purportedly has, would allow it's graphics and animation department to represent it's product so poorly.
The video was taken by an Italian gaming website, it's not an official video from Aventurine.
The video was completely approved by Tasos, I can assure you that. This was no obscure video unknown by Adventurine. This was MADE in Adventurine's office. So, wth are you talking about?
I was replying to the message that I quoted, where he was expecting company logos and release information. That is something you would expect from an official video, not from a preview video made by an un-affiliated website.
So true, so true!
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I have never termed the game vaporware. There's obviously a game here somewhere. But... We haven't seen actual evidence of an MMO. We really don't know if this game can be logged into from anywhere other than the Adventurine offices.
Not yet anyway.
I didn't realize that the convention center at the ADW was located in Aventurine offices....
You know the video that was played online with people from different locations....
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"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
I have never termed the game vaporware. There's obviously a game here somewhere. But... We haven't seen actual evidence of an MMO. We really don't know if this game can be logged into from anywhere other than the Adventurine offices.
Not yet anyway.
I didn't realize that the convention center at the ADW was located in Aventurine offices....
You know the video that was played online with people from different locations....
Actually, you may be correct. But, I don't know that people from "different" locations were logged on. I only know that ONE PC at the site was used to demo the game. I'm not positive, but I thought that was the case. It could also just have been a demo running on the local PC for all we know. Not saying it was but it could have been.
Newsflash: We're less than 2 months from 2009. There's absolutely no reason in the world why we can't have both great gameplay and great graphics. Anything less is unacceptable.
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have?
You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
You can probably buy the FanBoi blinders at the same store you found your Troll blinders, just on another aisle.
You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me.
And on a side note, if I don't like what I get out of Darkfall, I'll drop them like a bad habit. If I'm a FanBoi, then you'd really hate me as a Troll, flaming away.
Saying that you'll play a MUD, a text based, game doesn't mean anything to me. It's like reading a book and watching a movie. I'll read a good book before I'll watch a crappy movie, but one has little to do with the other. Just because you play MUDs doesn't mean that you have a greater perspective on good gameplay. Yes, a movie with crappy special effects can still be good, but if the effects are crappy, the acting is crappy and the plot is lackluster, then most likely it's gonna flop.
The gameplay 'may' be spectacular, but I haven't had a chance to play it, so I have to base my opinion of the game off of the small amount of leaked beta footage that I have at my disposal, and from what I've seen, which isn't much I admit, the graphics are sub par, and the animation is so bad as to be laughable.
That leads me to believe that the whole game will be poorly done. No serious company that has put enough time and money into a game to program the advanced AI and other features that this game perportedly has, would allow it's graphics and animation department to represent it's product so poorly.
You don't have to do anything. You could just wait like everyone else.
And by the way, almost all books are better than the movies based off of them. Your book - movie analogy is broke. Nice try, though.
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Ummm...
You missed the entire point about the book/movie analogy didn't you?
It wasn't an analogy comparing the two at all. It was actually just the opposite. You said you'd play a MUD which has no graphics at all as a way of saying that, to you, graphics aren't as important as gameplay. I'm saying that, much like books and movies, they are two different mediums.
Catch on now?
((And if everyone is just waiting, what's all the hubbub about, and why are you trying so hard to defend the game?))
Fuck ya.. Cause everyone knows sretching a bow and aiming is some A+ amazing gameplay.
Just give it up already.
You know that video looks like pure junk. Just do yourself a favor and admit it and stop living in a dream world.
I am excited.. dude , and see you getting angry about me getting excited adds to my pleasure ..
Do you notice how he try to aim to the point before the goblin taking into account the way of arrow and the estimated way of the goblin ..?
This game is like made for me ! finally ..
Hey DarthRaiden, I was reading some of the tester comments that the AI was pretty awesome. One guy wrote that he faced off with a goblin, waiting for it to make its move before he would release his arrow. The goblin was doing the same thing, waiting for him. Kinda humorous to see yourself out-maneuvered by a goblin.
That will be very interesting to try out ? finally some mobs as much difficult to handle as real players ? that would be so unique and unseen to this day in MMORPG's...
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-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have?
You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
You can probably buy the FanBoi blinders at the same store you found your Troll blinders, just on another aisle.
You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me.
And on a side note, if I don't like what I get out of Darkfall, I'll drop them like a bad habit. If I'm a FanBoi, then you'd really hate me as a Troll, flaming away.
Saying that you'll play a MUD, a text based, game doesn't mean anything to me. It's like reading a book and watching a movie. I'll read a good book before I'll watch a crappy movie, but one has little to do with the other. Just because you play MUDs doesn't mean that you have a greater perspective on good gameplay. Yes, a movie with crappy special effects can still be good, but if the effects are crappy, the acting is crappy and the plot is lackluster, then most likely it's gonna flop.
The gameplay 'may' be spectacular, but I haven't had a chance to play it, so I have to base my opinion of the game off of the small amount of leaked beta footage that I have at my disposal, and from what I've seen, which isn't much I admit, the graphics are sub par, and the animation is so bad as to be laughable.
That leads me to believe that the whole game will be poorly done. No serious company that has put enough time and money into a game to program the advanced AI and other features that this game perportedly has, would allow it's graphics and animation department to represent it's product so poorly.
You don't have to do anything. You could just wait like everyone else.
And by the way, almost all books are better than the movies based off of them. Your book - movie analogy is broke. Nice try, though.
Ummm...
You missed the entire point about the book/movie analogy didn't you?
It wasn't an analogy comparing the two at all. It was actually just the opposite. You said you'd play a MUD which has no graphics at all as a way of saying that, to you, graphics aren't as important as gameplay. I'm saying that, much like books and movies, they are two different mediums.
Catch on now?
I get what they are saying. I actually prefer movies over books. Yeah the book may be more detailed or at least seem that way. But why I like movies better is because they can show you somthing in 2 seconds what a book can take a few pages to explain.I think the more senses you have involved in something there is more immersion. Now if movies had smell and touch it would be even better.
The better the graphics the more immersed I get, now I can live without them cuz Im playing FFXI right now and its not known for the best graphics. But if the graphics were better it would make the game better to me. Granted it still has the same gameplay. I think there needs to be a good balance between gameplay and graphics. As much as i hear that UO used to be a good game, I couln't stand to play with those graphics today.
The video i watched was for sure actual game play footage,unlike that fake WOW advertisement i see on this site showing unrealistic game play in WOW[scripted video more like it].I liked the speed of the combat ,realistic and not like the F2P asian games.
That is it for the good points lol.The detail in the players/armour was very bad.The movement also looked like a game more than it did realistic movement.I already have a very good idea what to expect from this game and it won't be anything to WOW me,pardon the pun.
You know what the game looks like to me?remember might and magic,wel lit was a good game for it's time but that was a long time ago.
Just like the games AION/Huxley ,i will be interested in trying both of them,but i don't have high hopes for either.
Was that your rating of the video? 4/10? if so,it is an accurate one ,i would prolly give the video maybe a 5/10,6/10 if i was real generous.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
who cares? this isn't fucking 1992 anymore. I'am sure you'll be happy playing Darkfall with the other 100 people because after watching that video that's the total amount that's going to be playing.
That shit looks like EQ1
Who cares? Obviously you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be here in a Darkfall thread.
EQ classic (pre-luclin) animations where very well done, nothing to do with what can be seen in this video. There is no need for more computer power, only there is a need for talent and care for your game, two things that these guys obviously don't have.
Not sure how to feel about this. The world, buildings and so forth look real good, not the best but good. The characters and animation is horrendous to say thre least. Not sure if they have the talent to fix that this late in the game.
Swinging the sword and hitting and strafing was pretty good for me ..think you mean the running animation needs some work ..well an opinion how ever i ll take gameplay over animations
Do you really meant of having talent on fixing animations? lol
Didn't you know they developers of MMORPG/FPS and not t Pixar studios producing "pocahontas 3" ?
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"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
HERE YOU GO
http://rs455.rapidshare.com/files/167535843/mmorpg_italy.AVI
Higher quality version about 10 times better looking than the low quality version. Same video so still short but u can actually see the shadows the blood, and the wildlife
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You know, it's really hard to sort through all the BS associated with this game to figure out what is real and what isn't?
There are large parts of that Vid I have seen before - I recognised one of the stills as concept art from 2005.
And it does NOT look like anything official. It looks like yet another fan film made up from clips released elsewhere?
Then we have people like COORS making quotes like a Developer as if he is a personal friend and confidant of Tasos?
It doesn't really show anything or clarify anything. Either Way.
Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.
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"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
my bad did the wrong one
http://rs455.rapidshare.com/files/167535843/mmorpg_italy.AVI
forgot how rapdishare worked and u have to select free then dl it
Well, after this, is it ok to hope you won't be visiting these forums?
Oh nevermind, you aren't leaving...
Newsflash: We're less than 2 months from 2009. There's absolutely no reason in the world why we can't have both great gameplay and great graphics. Anything less is unacceptable.
Yeah, tell that to Mythic, Funcom, Blizzard. I'm sure they will have something to say about this.
Sure i'm not so clever because i got to give up on it.
About the video there is a thing i cannot understand and that is why Aventurine allowed to release a video like that?.
They are so careful about the information allowed to be published, they said that this is for the good of the game, i can understand it. But now this video is here
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Swinging the sword and hitting and strafing was pretty good for me ..think you mean the running animation needs some work ..well an opinion how ever i ll take gameplay over animations
Do you really meant of having talent on fixing animations? lol
Didn't you know they developers of MMORPG/FPS and not t Pixar studios producing "pocahontas 3" ?
So you mean the Pixar guys made the running animations (running, walking, dancing, kissing whatever) in Second Life? that cost anthing between 0.50 cents to a couple of bucks each?? And look 1000 times better?? COME ON.