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Realy Realy Dissapointing

This game was very disapointing in my opinion.

Gameplay: Well, lag was an issue on my super cpu on a T2 conection. I blame them. No 1st person, you scroll in and hover over your shoulder. Quests are easy to get and plentiful, but with the experience available int he pve aspect, and the rewards possible vrs time speant.... Not realy worth it. I give it a very very average score.

Graphics: Sorry, this doesn't compare to the other next generation mmo graphics. I am in wow beta, and my roomate is in eq2 beta, and, well, this game feels very outdated. The UI is very boring and generic. The combat graphics leave alot to the imagination. I will compare this game to old world everquest, barring a few improvements, but in 5 years can't they at least improve more then 10%?

Community: This gets my high grade. The people are generaly nice and helpfull. Maturity resonates through the land. The story line does evolve nicely.

Overall: For the fans of AC1, expand your universe and try it. To fans of old school mmorpgs, the wait for eq2 and wow continues, althought wow is alot better then eq2, which from what i've seen, is going to realy be a dissapointment. Sorry Everquesters, sony realy screwed you.

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  • punkrockpunkrock Member Posts: 1,777

    ya i just quit my account for this game. i hade alot of fun on this game but its time to move on. i will be going to wow.

     

     

  • Storm.Storm. Member UncommonPosts: 256



    Originally posted by synxx

    This game was very disapointing in my opinion.

    Gameplay: Well, lag was an issue on my super cpu on a T2 conection. I blame them. No 1st person, you scroll in and hover over your shoulder. Quests are easy to get and plentiful, but with the experience available int he pve aspect, and the rewards possible vrs time speant.... Not realy worth it. I give it a very very average score.

    There is a first person mode and one of the best camera systems in the game.  Use the num pad and press . to get into first person mode.  The beginning levels fly by so fast why are you worried about the rewards there?  The quests are extremely well done at higher levels and they have varying rewards.  All quests have exp rewards (around 3-7% of your level) and then there are other things that come of them too - armor/weapons/enchantments/gems/etc.

    Graphics: Sorry, this doesn't compare to the other next generation mmo graphics. I am in wow beta, and my roomate is in eq2 beta, and, well, this game feels very outdated. The UI is very boring and generic. The combat graphics leave alot to the imagination. I will compare this game to old world everquest, barring a few improvements, but in 5 years can't they at least improve more then 10%?

    I don't think that it feels outdated, but I do think that the combat graphics could be tweaked too.  The UI is very simplistic, but not generic.  It is easy to manage and get around in.  The biggest want for me is that they put in a nice new crafting window.  You also do not have the very high texture pack which you get after buying the game - I think you would probably change your mind.  The new changes to the World of Warcraft graphics actually decreased their artistic quality and actually reduced my appeal to the game.  Everquest 2 looks nice in action but terrible in screenshots.  Graphics don't matter anyways it is the gameplay.

    Community: This gets my high grade. The people are generaly nice and helpfull. Maturity resonates through the land. The story line does evolve nicely.

    Overall: For the fans of AC1, expand your universe and try it. To fans of old school mmorpgs, the wait for eq2 and wow continues, althought wow is alot better then eq2, which from what i've seen, is going to realy be a dissapointment. Sorry Everquesters, sony realy screwed you.



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  • Dru-Dru- Member Posts: 14

    It's interesting that the expansion pack is mostly content that was taken out of the current monthly development cycle and packaged as an "expansion pack."

    It seems most people are not thrilled by the manner in which this is happening, but by-and-large they are happy that there is an expansion pack.

    Essentially, I would characterize the Xpack as a rebooting of the game. Turbine seems to have written off the next 6 months (until March - the release date of the Xpack) and most of the exisitng players in order to put a package on the shelf and start over.

    Most of the fanbois are thrilled, most of the doomsayers are complaining about not getting value for their money.

    I think both are right.

    In my opinion, wait until the Xpack comes out and evaluate/reevaluate your interest in this game then.

    Until then, expect it to remain bug ridden and lack satisftying content.

  • Storm.Storm. Member UncommonPosts: 256

    It doesn't lack satisfying content - it just lacks the content at high levels.. at areas where the playerbase for the majority isn't.  Oh and synnx.. there are updates to the GUI planned between November and January.. I don't remember which month.


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  • Dru-Dru- Member Posts: 14


    Originally posted by Storm.
    It doesn't lack satisfying content - it just lacks the content at high levels.. at areas where the playerbase for the majority isn't.

    By satisfying, I mean mostly non-bug-ridden content that doesn't feel like a treadmill. Most people in game and on the boards complain about the treadmill feel of the "rinse-and-repeat" quests and how buggy they are, or are when they are introduced.

    Also, there are gaps in quest levels that exist, although it is much better now than it was a year ago.


  • ToleranceTolerance Member Posts: 21
    They also stated that they are assigning extra people to iron out the last of the bugs between now and xpack launch

  • InnfernoInnferno Member Posts: 124

    For me this game has had enough of a chance.  It sucked to start with, was given minor improvements over time and never really got any better than that.

    I challenge you to find an aspect of AC2 that has not been done better in either a current or very-soon-to-be released MMORPG.

  • Storm.Storm. Member UncommonPosts: 256



    Originally posted by Innferno

    For me this game has had enough of a chance.  It sucked to start with, was given minor improvements over time and never really got any better than that.
    I challenge you to find an aspect of AC2 that has not been done better in either a current or very-soon-to-be released MMORPG.



    Very very simple challenge.  The quests in Asheron's Call 2 are superb to all other mmorpgs.   I actually just posted about this earlier today because someone had asked me as well what makes Ac2 stand out.  I haven't found a game that is comparable to Ac2 in terms of quests. 

    Ac2 takes the common, every day, quest and puts in an innovative stance to it.  For example there is one quest called Bringing down the Catacombs and what it basically is is a find and kill quest.  You go into the dungeon (which requires certain classes to manipulate items into the proper form) and work your way down to find the egg chamber.  Once inside the egg chamber there are 8 pillars which are destroyed in order to "collapse" the dungeon.  After each pillar is destroyed more olthoi swarm into the chambers to attack your party/ies.  After all pillars have been destroyed the roof collapses (in form of falling rock animations from the ceilng and a DoT) and the characters have to run and hit a portal before they die.

     

    For delivery quests Ac2 sometimes sends you through puzzles involving both jumping and thinking processes in order to get to your goal. 

    When fighting Wharu players must use an item from another quest (which works as an armor debuff towards those monsters.. mabey Wharu too) which prevents Wharu from attacking them with an attack that does basically double the amount of damage to a player as they have health. 

    *  ----  *  ----  *---- *Wharu

    Each * represents this item and it provides a barrier of safety from the spell.  As players work their way up they have to use more in order to protect themselves from his devestating attacks.

     

    The quests and content is the reason I have stayed in Ac2 and not left to somewhere else.  No other mmorpg(save perhaps Ac1, I've never played it), including World of Warcraft (quality over quantity they say.. well definately not with respect to their quests), has come close to touching the calibur of quests that Ac2 has presented and it the main reason why I stay in that game.

    The only type of quest that Ac2 is not prolific in would be what people consider "dungeon raids" basically where you spend hours inside of one area trying to work your way to the boss.  Ac2 has a couple that can be loosely classified as this, but they aren't as good as other MMOs in that respect.

    I also find the combat system more entertaining than other mmos- but that is simply because I am a fps/mmorpg player and not strictly an rpg player.  It seems that more often than not, fps/mmorpg players want faster combat with little to no downtime.  WoW has medium speed and low to medium downtime..  I'm not sure what isn't satisfying me in WoW totally....it might deal wiht how everything is identical as you advance =s  I play a warlock.


     

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  • ScorpiusScorpius Member Posts: 15

    I agree with everything Storm said and would only add that not all MMOG's will appeal to all peoples tastes (or there would only be one). 

    I find AC2 well worth the money and still enjoy playing it since I started it when it went retail.

  • Dru-Dru- Member Posts: 14

    The game is far better now than when it was first released.

    The variety and number of quests are heads and shoulders above where the game was in the Summer of 2003.

    Comparing AC2 the way it was isn't a fair comparison.

    Comparing AC2 the way it is now, I think that AC2 is the best game on the market, but then I have limited exposure to a lot of games. Just my opinion.

  • Skullpl8Skullpl8 Member Posts: 3
    I agree with Storm completely. This is a whole new game then we played in beta. Plenty of great quests for all level players, the classes are more balanced then ever, looting corpses and troves brings excitement etc. I have played since beta and have also played multiple other MMO's, yet I still come back to AC2 (maybe I'M a sucker for punishment ? image) Personally I cant wait for the xpack.
  • JLeslieJLeslie Member Posts: 25



    Originally posted by Storm.

    For delivery quests Ac2 sometimes sends you through puzzles involving both jumping and thinking processes in order to get to your goal. 




    I agree, AC2 has some of the best Quests I've seen in a MMORPG. The Quest tracking/log is well done also.

    But I could scream about jumping in a ORPG. One of the Vaults on the middle continent had way too much jumping.

    I not only DON'T want to play a platform game, given the lag inherent in ORPG you don't get immediate response from the client. They either make it too hard, or give enough "buffer" that there was no challenge.

    If they never make a MMORPG with jumping "challenges" in their quests I'd be happier.

    Back to the point though, ignoring the silly jumping here and there: AC2 has fantastic quests (and Turbine manages close to 0 downtime without hurting combat strategy as well).

    And... mounts were done extremely well in AC2. It feels like you are on a mount if that makes any sense. Better than any other ORPG.

  • forestdutchforestdutch Member Posts: 175



    Originally posted by synxx

    This game was very disapointing in my opinion.
    Gameplay: Well, lag was an issue on my super cpu on a T2 conection. I blame them. No 1st person, you scroll in and hover over your shoulder. Quests are easy to get and plentiful, but with the experience available int he pve aspect, and the rewards possible vrs time speant.... Not realy worth it. I give it a very very average score.
    Graphics: Sorry, this doesn't compare to the other next generation mmo graphics. I am in wow beta, and my roomate is in eq2 beta, and, well, this game feels very outdated. The UI is very boring and generic. The combat graphics leave alot to the imagination. I will compare this game to old world everquest, barring a few improvements, but in 5 years can't they at least improve more then 10%?
    Community: This gets my high grade. The people are generaly nice and helpfull. Maturity resonates through the land. The story line does evolve nicely.
    Overall: For the fans of AC1, expand your universe and try it. To fans of old school mmorpgs, the wait for eq2 and wow continues, althought wow is alot better then eq2, which from what i've seen, is going to realy be a dissapointment. Sorry Everquesters, sony realy screwed you.



    typical bashing whiner

    ive played ac2 for 14months and now play for 4 months CB WoW both played on pvp server and alot is same as in ac2.

    Ac2 is still great game, WoW is also great game only thing i think is still much better in ac2 is pvp im from darktide and wow pvp is ok but not that good.

    But ac2 is still good mmorpg to play so if you dont like it go play wow stop bashing ac2.


     

  • MaximosMaximos Member UncommonPosts: 80

    First of all, most lag is due to cpu/ram/video card handling the information its passed not lag on network. Second the game's graphics (the high res ones you have to download if you got the free trial or online purchase download) are pretty good. If your working with the free trial you don't have the high res images.

    The UI is simple and easy to use. I haven't played AC2 for a long time, mostly cause my group of friends moved on, but I've come back a few times to enjoy the game. It has a great story line, unequaled in content to any mmo currently. Frequent update/revamps changed the game play alot.

    All in all, this is a salvagable game. Its been around awhile but its still a decent game. Sad thing is it probably won't make it to what it could be because of all the flux in the game and with the changeing hands from Microsoft.

    I think other MMO's could do well to use many of AC2's features (frequent content updates). The ui I think is one of the best, there are user upgrades to it that made the map very useful. It was simple and made things very easy to manage.

  • IndyKnightIndyKnight Member Posts: 31
    Me and my brother tried this games as a lark. We are hard gamers and this thing really stunk bad. It looks like it came from 1985! After the 2 hour download and another 20 minutes of patching. the first fun thing we did was die from a rat. So then we dicided to leap from a nearby clift because we couldn't take it anymore. this game isn't worth 12.95 a month. The programmers should be taken out and beaten. the only way I would ever play this game again is for them to pay me 12.95 a month! image It was definately a horrowing experience and these people want money! HA! We have decided that the next time we think about going to try something as a lark we should be fork.image

  • Storm.Storm. Member UncommonPosts: 256



    Originally posted by IndyKnight
    Me and my brother tried this games as a lark. We are hard gamers and this thing really stunk bad. It looks like it came from 1985! After the 2 hour download and another 20 minutes of patching. the first fun thing we did was die from a rat. So then we dicided to leap from a nearby clift because we couldn't take it anymore. this game isn't worth 12.95 a month. The programmers should be taken out and beaten. the only way I would ever play this game again is for them to pay me 12.95 a month! image It was definately a horrowing experience and these people want money! HA! We have decided that the next time we think about going to try something as a lark we should be fork.image



     

    Someone never went through training.... 

    You died so automatically the game SUCKS.  POOR YOU!

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  • Okami_aeOkami_ae Member Posts: 61

    whatz up?::::17::

  • vmopedvmoped Member Posts: 1,708
    The only dissapointing aspect of the game to me, when I last played it, was the lack of people online.  I personally liked the game mechanics and graphics, it just becomes boring and frustrating when your all alone.  The only players I saw where all in town either afk or spamming items for sale.  If more people played this would be a great game.

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  • Storm.Storm. Member UncommonPosts: 256

    If you really are interested in checking out the game I would recommend checking it out in March when the expansion pack is released.  There should be plenty of people playing then.

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  • forestdutchforestdutch Member Posts: 175

    I only stop ac2 becouse 30 to 60 peeps online on darktide is after few months no fun anymore:(

    But i think this game is great and better then most mmorpg,s out there, but as i see, lot of peeps here give opinion about ac2 they played for few hours or maybe few lvls man you all bunch off whiners from other games who wanne bash ac2 down and hope it stops.

    Prolly EQfanboi scum or some other gamefanboi scum or idiots who to dumb to know what game is good and witch one is bad.

    You love it or not simple but review a game when you at least have played it for month other wise shut up:P

    I know they wont but i try anyway AC2 is good game period.

     




  • Originally posted by JLeslie

     

    And... mounts were done extremely well in AC2. It feels like you are on a mount if that makes any sense. Better than any other ORPG.




    *bows*

     Glad you like the mounts in AC2. You have me, and only me to thank for them. I led the charge for having mounts since Beta. The AC2 game DEVs were 100% against having mounts. "Other games have them, there's no need for us to have them." Was their response on the Beta forums. (I still love the rule they had that all posts entered a 3+ day que before appearing LOL!) All the other AC2 fans followed in step with the reponse of the AC2 game DEVs. image You have noooo idea how badly flamed I was in the AC2 forums for sticking up for having mounts. imageimageimage

      How many other MMORPGs have you played? Because AC2 does not have the best mounts. It at best is tied with EQ, and SWG.

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  • ElapsedElapsed Member UncommonPosts: 2,329

    I think mounts suck. I agree your character actually LOOKS like he's on it as he bumps up and down. As for the creature itself, it seems to glide along. It doesn't feel like running at all, it's more like the /sled emote and has felt unnatural to me.

  • forestdutchforestdutch Member Posts: 175



    Originally posted by -Jaguar-

    I think mounts suck. I agree your character actually LOOKS like he's on it as he bumps up and down. As for the creature itself, it seems to glide along. It doesn't feel like running at all, it's more like the /sled emote and has felt unnatural to me.



    Lol well i like mounts in ac2 and i have feeling im on a mount hehe.

  • yowoeyowoe Member Posts: 15
    AC2 is a really great game- and how could you not like the mounts? They were great! If there's one thing I don't like, it's having to waste an hour walking around when mounts can fit very well in the story line. It would be cooler to have permanent mounts like pets, but I guess that was stretching the line for the developers. MOUNTS RULE!

  • BhazirBhazir Member Posts: 321


    Originally posted by Storm.
    It doesn't lack satisfying content - it just lacks the content at high levels.. at areas where the playerbase for the majority isn't. Oh and synnx.. there are updates to the GUI planned between November and January.. I don't remember which month.imageLv 62 Ranger Frostfell
    Define high level? At the level range of 30-39 is realy boring (if you don't mind doing fets before that), a few good quests but for the rest NOTHING. It was the first time I played the game and the second time after I returned to it with a break of more then 6 months. And the boring stuff starts again around level 51. HOD make the game more for powerplayers and the everyone respeced his char so they could best solo HOD. That did it with me and cancelled my account for good. At least the community was realy nice, especialy the allegiance I was in.

    AC2 is just an endless grind in my opinion, a game with lots of potential and realy good background story, but at the moment I quited not much that players could do to change it. And the lag is realy a problem, especialy on the europe servers, hope the move to Jolt solves this problem, but will know that in about a month.

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