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This game was very disapointing in my opinion.
Gameplay: Well, lag was an issue on my super cpu on a T2 conection. I blame them. No 1st person, you scroll in and hover over your shoulder. Quests are easy to get and plentiful, but with the experience available int he pve aspect, and the rewards possible vrs time speant.... Not realy worth it. I give it a very very average score.
Graphics: Sorry, this doesn't compare to the other next generation mmo graphics. I am in wow beta, and my roomate is in eq2 beta, and, well, this game feels very outdated. The UI is very boring and generic. The combat graphics leave alot to the imagination. I will compare this game to old world everquest, barring a few improvements, but in 5 years can't they at least improve more then 10%?
Community: This gets my high grade. The people are generaly nice and helpfull. Maturity resonates through the land. The story line does evolve nicely.
Overall: For the fans of AC1, expand your universe and try it. To fans of old school mmorpgs, the wait for eq2 and wow continues, althought wow is alot better then eq2, which from what i've seen, is going to realy be a dissapointment. Sorry Everquesters, sony realy screwed you.
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ya i just quit my account for this game. i hade alot of fun on this game but its time to move on. i will be going to wow.
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It's interesting that the expansion pack is mostly content that was taken out of the current monthly development cycle and packaged as an "expansion pack."
It seems most people are not thrilled by the manner in which this is happening, but by-and-large they are happy that there is an expansion pack.
Essentially, I would characterize the Xpack as a rebooting of the game. Turbine seems to have written off the next 6 months (until March - the release date of the Xpack) and most of the exisitng players in order to put a package on the shelf and start over.
Most of the fanbois are thrilled, most of the doomsayers are complaining about not getting value for their money.
I think both are right.
In my opinion, wait until the Xpack comes out and evaluate/reevaluate your interest in this game then.
Until then, expect it to remain bug ridden and lack satisftying content.
It doesn't lack satisfying content - it just lacks the content at high levels.. at areas where the playerbase for the majority isn't. Oh and synnx.. there are updates to the GUI planned between November and January.. I don't remember which month.
Lv 62 Ranger
Frostfell
By satisfying, I mean mostly non-bug-ridden content that doesn't feel like a treadmill. Most people in game and on the boards complain about the treadmill feel of the "rinse-and-repeat" quests and how buggy they are, or are when they are introduced.
Also, there are gaps in quest levels that exist, although it is much better now than it was a year ago.
For me this game has had enough of a chance. It sucked to start with, was given minor improvements over time and never really got any better than that.
I challenge you to find an aspect of AC2 that has not been done better in either a current or very-soon-to-be released MMORPG.
Very very simple challenge. The quests in Asheron's Call 2 are superb to all other mmorpgs. I actually just posted about this earlier today because someone had asked me as well what makes Ac2 stand out. I haven't found a game that is comparable to Ac2 in terms of quests.
Ac2 takes the common, every day, quest and puts in an innovative stance to it. For example there is one quest called Bringing down the Catacombs and what it basically is is a find and kill quest. You go into the dungeon (which requires certain classes to manipulate items into the proper form) and work your way down to find the egg chamber. Once inside the egg chamber there are 8 pillars which are destroyed in order to "collapse" the dungeon. After each pillar is destroyed more olthoi swarm into the chambers to attack your party/ies. After all pillars have been destroyed the roof collapses (in form of falling rock animations from the ceilng and a DoT) and the characters have to run and hit a portal before they die.
For delivery quests Ac2 sometimes sends you through puzzles involving both jumping and thinking processes in order to get to your goal.
When fighting Wharu players must use an item from another quest (which works as an armor debuff towards those monsters.. mabey Wharu too) which prevents Wharu from attacking them with an attack that does basically double the amount of damage to a player as they have health.
* ---- * ---- *---- *Wharu
Each * represents this item and it provides a barrier of safety from the spell. As players work their way up they have to use more in order to protect themselves from his devestating attacks.
The quests and content is the reason I have stayed in Ac2 and not left to somewhere else. No other mmorpg(save perhaps Ac1, I've never played it), including World of Warcraft (quality over quantity they say.. well definately not with respect to their quests), has come close to touching the calibur of quests that Ac2 has presented and it the main reason why I stay in that game.
The only type of quest that Ac2 is not prolific in would be what people consider "dungeon raids" basically where you spend hours inside of one area trying to work your way to the boss. Ac2 has a couple that can be loosely classified as this, but they aren't as good as other MMOs in that respect.
I also find the combat system more entertaining than other mmos- but that is simply because I am a fps/mmorpg player and not strictly an rpg player. It seems that more often than not, fps/mmorpg players want faster combat with little to no downtime. WoW has medium speed and low to medium downtime.. I'm not sure what isn't satisfying me in WoW totally....it might deal wiht how everything is identical as you advance =s I play a warlock.
Lv 62 Ranger
Frostfell
I agree with everything Storm said and would only add that not all MMOG's will appeal to all peoples tastes (or there would only be one).
I find AC2 well worth the money and still enjoy playing it since I started it when it went retail.
The game is far better now than when it was first released.
The variety and number of quests are heads and shoulders above where the game was in the Summer of 2003.
Comparing AC2 the way it was isn't a fair comparison.
Comparing AC2 the way it is now, I think that AC2 is the best game on the market, but then I have limited exposure to a lot of games. Just my opinion.
I agree, AC2 has some of the best Quests I've seen in a MMORPG. The Quest tracking/log is well done also.
But I could scream about jumping in a ORPG. One of the Vaults on the middle continent had way too much jumping.
I not only DON'T want to play a platform game, given the lag inherent in ORPG you don't get immediate response from the client. They either make it too hard, or give enough "buffer" that there was no challenge.
If they never make a MMORPG with jumping "challenges" in their quests I'd be happier.
Back to the point though, ignoring the silly jumping here and there: AC2 has fantastic quests (and Turbine manages close to 0 downtime without hurting combat strategy as well).
And... mounts were done extremely well in AC2. It feels like you are on a mount if that makes any sense. Better than any other ORPG.
typical bashing whiner
ive played ac2 for 14months and now play for 4 months CB WoW both played on pvp server and alot is same as in ac2.
Ac2 is still great game, WoW is also great game only thing i think is still much better in ac2 is pvp im from darktide and wow pvp is ok but not that good.
But ac2 is still good mmorpg to play so if you dont like it go play wow stop bashing ac2.
First of all, most lag is due to cpu/ram/video card handling the information its passed not lag on network. Second the game's graphics (the high res ones you have to download if you got the free trial or online purchase download) are pretty good. If your working with the free trial you don't have the high res images.
The UI is simple and easy to use. I haven't played AC2 for a long time, mostly cause my group of friends moved on, but I've come back a few times to enjoy the game. It has a great story line, unequaled in content to any mmo currently. Frequent update/revamps changed the game play alot.
All in all, this is a salvagable game. Its been around awhile but its still a decent game. Sad thing is it probably won't make it to what it could be because of all the flux in the game and with the changeing hands from Microsoft.
I think other MMO's could do well to use many of AC2's features (frequent content updates). The ui I think is one of the best, there are user upgrades to it that made the map very useful. It was simple and made things very easy to manage.
Lv 62 Ranger
Frostfell
whatz up?
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If you really are interested in checking out the game I would recommend checking it out in March when the expansion pack is released. There should be plenty of people playing then.
Lv 62 Ranger
Frostfell
I only stop ac2 becouse 30 to 60 peeps online on darktide is after few months no fun anymore:(
But i think this game is great and better then most mmorpg,s out there, but as i see, lot of peeps here give opinion about ac2 they played for few hours or maybe few lvls man you all bunch off whiners from other games who wanne bash ac2 down and hope it stops.
Prolly EQfanboi scum or some other gamefanboi scum or idiots who to dumb to know what game is good and witch one is bad.
You love it or not simple but review a game when you at least have played it for month other wise shut up:P
I know they wont but i try anyway AC2 is good game period.
And... mounts were done extremely well in AC2. It feels like you are on a mount if that makes any sense. Better than any other ORPG.
*bows*
Glad you like the mounts in AC2. You have me, and only me to thank for them. I led the charge for having mounts since Beta. The AC2 game DEVs were 100% against having mounts. "Other games have them, there's no need for us to have them." Was their response on the Beta forums. (I still love the rule they had that all posts entered a 3+ day que before appearing LOL!) All the other AC2 fans followed in step with the reponse of the AC2 game DEVs. You have noooo idea how badly flamed I was in the AC2 forums for sticking up for having mounts.
How many other MMORPGs have you played? Because AC2 does not have the best mounts. It at best is tied with EQ, and SWG.
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I think mounts suck. I agree your character actually LOOKS like he's on it as he bumps up and down. As for the creature itself, it seems to glide along. It doesn't feel like running at all, it's more like the /sled emote and has felt unnatural to me.
AC2 is just an endless grind in my opinion, a game with lots of potential and realy good background story, but at the moment I quited not much that players could do to change it. And the lag is realy a problem, especialy on the europe servers, hope the move to Jolt solves this problem, but will know that in about a month.
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