Are any other pre-trammal UO fans as giddy about darkfall as I am? I mean shit it's not gonna be as polished as WoW but the fundamentals of the game seem to be aimed towards us! Thoughts?
Are any other pre-trammal UO fans as giddy about darkfall as I am? I mean shit it's not gonna be as polished as WoW but the fundamentals of the game seem to be aimed towards us! Thoughts?
Most people that have followed Darkfall for the last 5 or 7 years are not "giddy" at this point in the development of the game.
The developers said they'd have a 2008 release, and December 31, 2008 is only a few weeks away. But so far no words from teh Devs on an open beta (dropped NDA), and they continue to release reviews that the Devs control. Most recently is a review from someone who's site they host, and before that it was Italians that the let in the office to play the game. In both cases, they didn't drop the NDA, but just modified it to allow the reviewers to post a dev approved review.
So far no word on a push back for release, open beta, why all these controlled beta reviews, and other odd behavior.
So at this point, no, giddy is not the word. Maybe if they drop the NDA and we see some independent reviews that say the game is like UO pre-trammel, then people can be "giddy". Until then, giddyness seems premature.
Eh, I get what your saying. It's taking them way too damn long. I was one of the poor saps that got excited about Dark n Light. And you see how that turned out. I wish this wasn't coming from an independent company so we could see some decent advertising and customer relations. They are gonna need both if they expect to compete in this market. I'm aware im in a small niche of players who miss skill-based full loot gaming, and I hate it. More people should know about how much fun it was.
suppose the game came out and it perfect in that UO way. Do you really think you are going to feel the same way you did back in the good old days of UO?
Of course I won't. It will be a all together different feeling. I'll admit I'm not the first one to bias myself over UO. I know for a fact if the game is as awesome as the trailers make it seem I will probably lose my girlfriend over it. Not seriously but you know how badly some of us miss the ways things used to be.
Ive seen some creative signatures in the Darkfall forum but the weird thing is I sweat I've seen everything its advertising almost word for word the same as Dark and Light. Even the font and general picture looks exactly the same! Its kinda weird, word for word except the Kill Anyone part!!
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Makes you wonder what parts of their staff they have in common? I mean DnL failed but they share alot of the same insights.
That's the first time I've heard speculation on an overlap in the devs of Dark 'n Light and Darkfall. I don't think that's the case.
Dark and Light used the Big World Tech Engine to make their game, with some modifications, and thier own custom software to build terrain, while Darkfall is making their own proprietary engine.
True, they were both going for a sandbox game, with PvP, but it's a niche that some developer obviously needs to fill. What with the ex UO pre-trammel players, the ex Star Wars pre-NGE players, and all the players that want a game like EVE, but don't really want to be a spaceship.
Are any other pre-trammal UO fans as giddy about darkfall as I am? I mean shit it's not gonna be as polished as WoW but the fundamentals of the game seem to be aimed towards us! Thoughts?
I think you could be full of shit, but I guess we will have to wait for the big secret to actually get out. Sorry but this much secretness doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
I'm not full of shit. Despite having a severe dislike for WoW I acknowledge the thing it truly has going for it is polish. It doesn't accomplish almost anything new it just polished the current status-quo. For Darkfall to be as big a game as we all want it to they are going to have to round the edges and make that bitch shine. If the game doesn't feel finished and isn't fun to play it won't keep running, no matter how many cool features it has. Hell look at Tabula Rasa. BTW i actually had the chance to meet Richard Garriott in Austin Texas when he did his first show of Tabula Rasa. The game looked interesting back then before the FPS hybrid stank. Small turnout and the Lineage and CoH tournies were kinda lame but I got to chat about old-school UO. And this was before freecasting and shit. Just look at EVE though, the game accomplishes alot of ground and such but still has the polish.
full sandbox MMO? check. modern 3d graphics? check. expansive, varied and interesting world? check. unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. UO-like levels of player freedom? check. EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
I have a rule that I don't get excited by games until they release now, no matter how awesome they sound on paper.
The jury is well and truly out on Darkfall. And as every day of december that goes by without word of OB or release, the more doubtful I get that this game will deliver even half of what it promises.
full sandbox MMO? check. modern 3d graphics? check. expansive, varied and interesting world? check. unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. UO-like levels of player freedom? check. EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
full sandbox MMO? check. modern 3d graphics? check. expansive, varied and interesting world? check. unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. UO-like levels of player freedom? check. EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
full sandbox MMO? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots modern 3d graphics? check. -- Very debatable expansive, varied and interesting world? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots UO-like levels of player freedom? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshot.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
Nothing of what you've posted has been proven or shown. What you have seen is what you wanted to see. THey have not shown jack&^#& as of yet.
full sandbox MMO? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots modern 3d graphics? check. -- Very debatable expansive, varied and interesting world? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots UO-like levels of player freedom? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshots EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check. -- Not shown in video/screenshot.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
Nothing of what you've posted has been proven or shown. What you have seen is what you wanted to see. THey have not shown jack&^#& as of yet.
[Sarcasm]Yes, they certainly didn't show player looting, PvE and PvP on the athens Digital week presentation in front of a live audience.[/Sarcasm]
full sandbox MMO? check. modern 3d graphics? check. expansive, varied and interesting world? check. unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. UO-like levels of player freedom? check. EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
seriously, what do you think *hasn't* been shown yet? i'm curious.
cause i watched the ~1 hours worth of videos on Darkfall again recently and i'm satisfied that everything they claim is in there is in there, or near enough. whether it works well and is bug-free is another thing.
full sandbox MMO? check. modern 3d graphics? check. expansive, varied and interesting world? check. unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. UO-like levels of player freedom? check. EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
seriously, what do you think *hasn't* been shown yet? i'm curious.
cause i watched the ~1 hours worth of videos on Darkfall again recently and i'm satisfied that everything they claim is in there is in there, or near enough. whether it works well and is bug-free is another thing.
I dont think theyve shown anything real indepth about crafting.
full sandbox MMO? check. modern 3d graphics? check. expansive, varied and interesting world? check. unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. UO-like levels of player freedom? check. EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
seriously, what do you think *hasn't* been shown yet? i'm curious.
cause i watched the ~1 hours worth of videos on Darkfall again recently and i'm satisfied that everything they claim is in there is in there, or near enough. whether it works well and is bug-free is another thing.
I dont think theyve shown anything real indepth about crafting.
true, but then they explicitly said they would not be revealing detailed info on crafting, skill trees and lore prior to release, and i'm ok with that.
So far, every part of the game has been confirmed in beta leaks except for shipbuilding and crafting info. Sieges and sieging are confirmed in.
Well actually there was a 'reliable' leaker (he has proven himself to leak valid information before.) that stated a dev had spawned the materials needed to create a ship and a tester created the ship and sailed in it. He clearly stated that the full process wasn't tested, but that with all materials spawned it could be done. That doesn't mean they couldn't just go the route of having a key material ungatherable due to incompetence ala Funcom.
full sandbox MMO? check. modern 3d graphics? check. expansive, varied and interesting world? check. unrestricted PVP with consequences? check. decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check. UO-like levels of player freedom? check. EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
The only way this game can fail is if it is ridden with gamebreaking bugs, eg: AoC.
Comments
Most people that have followed Darkfall for the last 5 or 7 years are not "giddy" at this point in the development of the game.
The developers said they'd have a 2008 release, and December 31, 2008 is only a few weeks away. But so far no words from teh Devs on an open beta (dropped NDA), and they continue to release reviews that the Devs control. Most recently is a review from someone who's site they host, and before that it was Italians that the let in the office to play the game. In both cases, they didn't drop the NDA, but just modified it to allow the reviewers to post a dev approved review.
So far no word on a push back for release, open beta, why all these controlled beta reviews, and other odd behavior.
So at this point, no, giddy is not the word. Maybe if they drop the NDA and we see some independent reviews that say the game is like UO pre-trammel, then people can be "giddy". Until then, giddyness seems premature.
Eh, I get what your saying. It's taking them way too damn long. I was one of the poor saps that got excited about Dark n Light. And you see how that turned out. I wish this wasn't coming from an independent company so we could see some decent advertising and customer relations. They are gonna need both if they expect to compete in this market. I'm aware im in a small niche of players who miss skill-based full loot gaming, and I hate it. More people should know about how much fun it was.
Rage/Enos
suppose the game came out and it perfect in that UO way. Do you really think you are going to feel the same way you did back in the good old days of UO?
Of course I won't. It will be a all together different feeling. I'll admit I'm not the first one to bias myself over UO. I know for a fact if the game is as awesome as the trailers make it seem I will probably lose my girlfriend over it. Not seriously but you know how badly some of us miss the ways things used to be.
Rage/Enos
Ive seen some creative signatures in the Darkfall forum but the weird thing is I sweat I've seen everything its advertising almost word for word the same as Dark and Light. Even the font and general picture looks exactly the same! Its kinda weird, word for word except the Kill Anyone part!!
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Makes you wonder what parts of their staff they have in common? I mean DnL failed but they share alot of the same insights.
Rage/Enos
That's the first time I've heard speculation on an overlap in the devs of Dark 'n Light and Darkfall. I don't think that's the case.
Dark and Light used the Big World Tech Engine to make their game, with some modifications, and thier own custom software to build terrain, while Darkfall is making their own proprietary engine.
True, they were both going for a sandbox game, with PvP, but it's a niche that some developer obviously needs to fill. What with the ex UO pre-trammel players, the ex Star Wars pre-NGE players, and all the players that want a game like EVE, but don't really want to be a spaceship.
I think you could be full of shit, but I guess we will have to wait for the big secret to actually get out. Sorry but this much secretness doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
While I never played UO back in the day, I think I am as excited about Darkfall as you(OP). The same could prob be said of most DF fans.
I'm not full of shit. Despite having a severe dislike for WoW I acknowledge the thing it truly has going for it is polish. It doesn't accomplish almost anything new it just polished the current status-quo. For Darkfall to be as big a game as we all want it to they are going to have to round the edges and make that bitch shine. If the game doesn't feel finished and isn't fun to play it won't keep running, no matter how many cool features it has. Hell look at Tabula Rasa. BTW i actually had the chance to meet Richard Garriott in Austin Texas when he did his first show of Tabula Rasa. The game looked interesting back then before the FPS hybrid stank. Small turnout and the Lineage and CoH tournies were kinda lame but I got to chat about old-school UO. And this was before freecasting and shit. Just look at EVE though, the game accomplishes alot of ground and such but still has the polish.
Rage/Enos
My mistake I thought you said it would be as polished as WoW. Disregard my comment.
Wished I saw this topic before i posted early today.
Since your all UO fans. What makes this game like uo? UO was more than pvp. PvP was icing on the UO cake. Very good icing.
But seriously how is this game like UO?
Can i interact with npc by talking?
Is crafting challenging?
How does magic work does it use regeants?
Can i steal from players? Can I steal from npcs and even kill em for there inventory?
How about RP elements, are citys big with theaters? (remeber alot of plays ran by players) Its something SWG had but with concerts.
What about ghosts will i turn into one? (doesnt have to be exactly like uo but curious)
What about npc spawns are they static or dynamic? And are mobs everyone like in current games or will I get to actualy hunt for the good stuff?
Are guild citys actualy citys? or just buildings and do guilds citys have there own laws/gov/rules whatever its called?
More importantly is the world huge and spaced out?
full sandbox MMO? check.
modern 3d graphics? check.
expansive, varied and interesting world? check.
unrestricted PVP with consequences? check.
decent-looking PVE for the PVE crowd? check.
UO-like levels of player freedom? check.
EVE-like possiblities for massive regional and factional warfare on a huge scale? check.
The only way this game can fail is if it is ridden with gamebreaking bugs, eg: AoC.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
I have a rule that I don't get excited by games until they release now, no matter how awesome they sound on paper.
The jury is well and truly out on Darkfall. And as every day of december that goes by without word of OB or release, the more doubtful I get that this game will deliver even half of what it promises.
I'll rejoice when they deliver the product (means launch) later this month (ROFL).
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
Nothing of what you've posted has been proven or shown. What you have seen is what you wanted to see. THey have not shown jack&^#& as of yet.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
Nothing of what you've posted has been proven or shown. What you have seen is what you wanted to see. THey have not shown jack&^#& as of yet.
[Sarcasm]Yes, they certainly didn't show player looting, PvE and PvP on the athens Digital week presentation in front of a live audience.[/Sarcasm]
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
seriously, what do you think *hasn't* been shown yet? i'm curious.
cause i watched the ~1 hours worth of videos on Darkfall again recently and i'm satisfied that everything they claim is in there is in there, or near enough. whether it works well and is bug-free is another thing.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
seriously, what do you think *hasn't* been shown yet? i'm curious.
cause i watched the ~1 hours worth of videos on Darkfall again recently and i'm satisfied that everything they claim is in there is in there, or near enough. whether it works well and is bug-free is another thing.
I dont think theyve shown anything real indepth about crafting.
Waking up and realizing Darkfall didn't deliver half of these? check.
Waiting for that next perfect MMO. check.
I really wish people would stop doing these dumb lists. We haven't seen any of this so far. The crap videos and screenshots by cartoonists don't mean anything. And try to understand what devs SAY also don't mean anything. Didn't you guys learn anything from Age of Conan fiasco?
I could start my own MMO today and list a hundred cool things it's going to have. Then after 10 years I would say: "Sorry, the game sucked and I deleted everything!".
We need actual gameplay footage and preview by someone who is not friend or family.
Everything i listed has been seen and verified in videos and screenshots. You should try watching them
You verified all that in the videos? I am amazed at your insight and perception.
seriously, what do you think *hasn't* been shown yet? i'm curious.
cause i watched the ~1 hours worth of videos on Darkfall again recently and i'm satisfied that everything they claim is in there is in there, or near enough. whether it works well and is bug-free is another thing.
I dont think theyve shown anything real indepth about crafting.
true, but then they explicitly said they would not be revealing detailed info on crafting, skill trees and lore prior to release, and i'm ok with that.
anything else?
Well actually there was a 'reliable' leaker (he has proven himself to leak valid information before.) that stated a dev had spawned the materials needed to create a ship and a tester created the ship and sailed in it. He clearly stated that the full process wasn't tested, but that with all materials spawned it could be done. That doesn't mean they couldn't just go the route of having a key material ungatherable due to incompetence ala Funcom.
All of that is only in writen text? check.