Thank you for the reply Oro but you have just taken one part out of why i lasted a week with this game. Not only did i despise the gank fest community but after reaching level 29 i was getting bored of the same quest's over and over and i really did enjoy the mini game's but i was in a queue for hours. Im sure it's quicker at level 80 with the majority at that level but still if AoC want more players then 1-2 mini games every few hours isnt good enough . With the graphics and all , it has room for development but i still feel this game need's alota love. I drool of the though of this game in more of a sandbox way, with no instances.. one huge zone. But this is my view and my alone. Im sure others love AoC but its not for me.. yet ..
I am confused... Is this your first MMO?
You have a problem with quests that make you kill x amount of creatures or gather x amount of items and people ganking you on a pvp server. Am I missing something? Because it sounds like you're making it out that AoC has a completely unorthodox approach to quests and ganking compared to other games.
In this case, I would say forget PvE servers... and traditional MMO games like WAR, WoW, AoC etc. Maybe give EVE another try...
Originally posted by LordSkaal Scaredgirl sumed it up. I said i am indeed intersted but i wont play from the start intill i hear what it is like. If anything like AoC gankfest i wont be making the journy. So maybe WAR .. i need to take a hard look at whats going on and hopefully a good soultion is found.
You said you are coming from Eve well imagine AoC is like Eve but all the zones are 0.0 sec space.
AoC is perfect ganking game, you dont have limitation's Asian game like to use aka Karma system god forbid you kill someone and then drop everything.
As for the system ScaredGirl said well the last time he/she played was in May 08 and there is a system so if anyone is killing those 6 level bellow will get murderer points and with those there are certain restrictions not to mention grind to work them off.
Since AoC implemented PvP XP back in September you can expect majority of players will attack you at least for 1st 5 times while you are still giving more then 1 XP
Now as for DF you should really stay away then cause there they wont just kill you they will also loot everything you have.
p.s. AoC is getting into looting direction too now ...
LordSkaal, If you are quiting just beacus you get ganked, i think you should try to reroll on a PVE server first and see if you like it or not. I mean if you like the game but you dont whant to play becaus of gankers, the best way is to roll on a pve server.
I think he likes pvp so rerolling to a pve server is a bad solution for his problem.
Pvp servers in AoC are nothing more than a huge gankfest. Unless you play with a couple of friends you have ZERO chance of surviving. There are many professional gank squads who will grief you for HOURS until you logout.
These kind of nolife gankers exist in all pvp games but in AoC there's 10 times more of them because AoC is the perfect game for a ganker.
They should have some kind of WORKING system of dealing with this kind of behavior but they don't. And that's why many people have left the game and are leaving every day.
I predict in a couple of months all they have left is a couple of servers with gankers ganking each other. Awesome pvp game.
Yea the first time I went to White sand isles non night mode, I quit and rolled on Set.
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
[quote][i]Originally posted by LordSkaal[/i]
Thank you for the replies
The server im on is " FURY " and yes i was also told to go back to WoW hehe . You see the point is i LOVE PvP but not every day constant ganking. I played a far harsher game in EVE where we acutally lost what we used but the problem in AoC is you have no idea if a player is about to attack you with every one having the skill " hide " .
Yesterday i was acutally having alot of fun grouping with another new player and we met another two players doing the same quests as us. We left them to avoid a gank fest and in turn it seem'd they avoided us also. It was only when we reached a " BOSS " that they attacked us and lost. But this is where it got silly, They called in guild members 20 levels above us and ganked us till we had no choice to log off .
In that time i was told to f*** off and not come back and if they ever see me again will face the same punishment. I tried saying we only fought back but wasnt getting any where.
Today i switched zone's to a much bigger map after being tipped off its a bit quieter ie less room for ganks but still i had people trying to ruin it. Its just a big shame that leave's me with no desire to carry on.
I think that going back to WAR where i have a level 30 odd toon will be a better idea. If i want to PVP i can join a instance and at least i will have fellow faction members "wanting" to back me up rather then also ganking me.
There comes a point where PVP isnt PVP and AoC sum's it up.. people who start AoC and make it to level 80, i can only salute you for carrying on . After WAR i dont see any other MMO's taking my fancy apart from DARKFALL which i still think might fail.
Im posting this because im honestly gutted its turned out this way and just the way its happend as there are time's you can have fun but the system will simply spoil it for you.
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Your problem is that you don't like FFA. The same complaints you are using is the exact reason why other games don't do FFA. Because everyone wants exp, so anything goes to get it. If you don't like AoC you'll hate DF because 1) There aren't any PvE servers, 2) Its FFA, and 3) When you get ganked you will lose your gear.
AoC isn't about mini games. Mini games don't give you more exp for winning.
Tyranny isn't just a huge gank fest, although it does happen. Usually the gankers actually suck at the game, so having 1-2 other people with you will make it so you can beat them. And as far as the boss thing, well you both needed the boss for a quest, its ffa, instead of taking turns which could take hrs, you kill the other team off and take the boss then leave. I loved doing that when the game launched because every grind spot was fought over and the PvP was intense.
In AoC, especially on a PvP server, you need a guild.
The ones that can't handle getting ganked usually quit the first month. And Carebears brought us the concsquence system which actually punishes high lvls for grifing low lvls.
AoC isn't for everyone, and mainly because its an FFA PvP game and the PvE servers don't want to PvP.
I see some people suggesting that you play on a PvE server. The biggest problem with PvE servers are that they currently have very low populations so it will be kinda hard to get a group unless you are in a pretty big guild. Personally, I would suggest that you grab a copy of WAR and play that game until Darkfall gets released.
IMO, a player trying to transition into a new MMO shouldnt have to go to a forum to get tips on how to have fun in the game. If a player is having a hard time trying to have fun in a MMO then most likely that game isnt for him.
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
I see some people suggesting that you play on a PvE server. The biggest problem with PvE servers are that they currently have very low populations so it will be kinda hard to get a group unless you are in a pretty big guild.
Personally, I would suggest that you grab a copy of WAR and play that game until Darkfall gets released. IMO, a player trying to transition into a new MMO shouldnt have to go to a forum to get tips on how to have fun in the game. If a player is having a hard time trying to have fun in a MMO then most likely that game isnt for him.
The PvE servers that are recommended have plenty of players. WAR's combat is borning. And if he doesn't like FFA in this game he'll loath FFA in DF because there when you are ganked your gear, all your gear and most of your items, are taken from you. DF will have the same problems AoC has with people complaining about the PvP, maybe a little less since the full loot will attract some players, but the avg gamer will not like that game. Furthermore, it is grindy.
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
I read your post (as difficult as it was with the lack of formatting) , and I'm sure he just doesn't like the AoC community (after all, a good community would weed out the a**holes or at least ostricize them). FFA PVP would be fine with the right community and a decent game. Mentioning DF on the AoC boards will get you cursed and told to STFU and GTFO, so I am not so sure that those folks would leave their "newbie killing comfort zone" to play DF and have the chance to get their own stuff looted.
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
I read your post (as difficult as it was with the lack of formatting) , and I'm sure he just doesn't like the AoC community (after all, a good community would weed out the a**holes or at least ostricize them). FFA PVP would be fine with the right community and a decent game. Mentioning DF on the AoC boards will get you cursed and told to STFU and GTFO, so I am not so sure that those folks would leave their "newbie killing comfort zone" to play DF and have the chance to get their own stuff looted.
His post was not that hard to understand for all of us (Just for the record).
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
I read your post (as difficult as it was with the lack of formatting) , and I'm sure he just doesn't like the AoC community (after all, a good community would weed out the a**holes or at least ostricize them). FFA PVP would be fine with the right community and a decent game. Mentioning DF on the AoC boards will get you cursed and told to STFU and GTFO, so I am not so sure that those folks would leave their "newbie killing comfort zone" to play DF and have the chance to get their own stuff looted.
No it doesn't well not on the NA boards. Most people say "I'm going to try it" or "Don't get your hopes up because its made by a smaller company than FC" or its "its going to be a massive grind" Most of the gankers and "retards" are going to be trying to DF.
And I'm sorry that when you hit quote and then past the quote into the an post you edit the format doesn't stay.
And btw, the entire community does't act like donkey's, some do but most don't.
This post really sums up AoC community: Its a gank/zerg fest retailed as a pvp game but if you dont like it you get reroll a low population and pve (something the game really doesnt excel at) or just go back to wow.
I have never know such a defensive community in a game so far.
Im not an AOC fanboy by any stretch but I am having trouble feelingyour pain when you are ona pvp server. The stereotypical person who rolls one one of these is going to gank whomever they can becasue it makes their epeen tingle so you have to expect this to happen.
Theres nothing wrong with the system when it says PVP beside the server name. Sadly if the side games where used more heavily I would say roll on a PVE server before you get to far but I doubt that you would get your fill of pvp waiting hours to que up.
Originally posted by vala2008 This post really sums up AoC community: Its a gank/zerg fest retailed as a pvp game but if you dont like it you get reroll a low population and pve (something the game really doesnt excel at) or just go back to wow. I have never know such a defensive community in a game so far.
Well you know people are confused it would be the same if someone said for WAR omg fu**ing order is constantly gank/zerg me .. same goes for WoW.
People need to accept that in AoC everyone is RED there are no faction and on top of that you gain PvP XP (and PvE) if you kill another player and on TOP of that you have diminishing XP meaning that you hunt for fresh kills ( at least 5 times = 1st kill 100xp, 2 80XP, 3 60XP, 4 40XP, 5 20XP and after it its just 1xp 1xp for same player for next 24h ) + on top of that add drops that will be implemented with new patch .. they started with BK resources drops and they plan to implement even more drops later on .. the fact is it will make game even worse for the people that hate PvP now.
I mean you have players that will say I love PvP but majority of those love PvP when its under their terms aka when I want to level I dont wanna be attacked when I wanna do PvP i will go to some PvP enable zone.
What Age of Conan did is they made very PvP orientated game without using RvR system .. true game have several flaws that are not fixed yet when it comes to other stuff like crafting, itemization etc..
In PvP regard AoC is quite unique for 2008 most of other games are either RvR or they have penalties when it comes to PvP aka Karma system etc ...
IMO playing AoC on PvE server is not really a good choice as AoC is far from very good PvE game ...
Its either you can handle it or not .. hehe otherwise go back to wow :P (joking)
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
Ask the people left in Shadowbane who basically still do the same thing to the few new people who trickle into that game why they do it.
I'm sure the mentality is no different. In a nutshell: They don't care.
Those types of players ("career griefers", you could call them) don't care how well or poorly the game is doing, they don't see the possible long-term harm of what they do. All they care about is that they're entertained at someone else's expense. The thought that they might drive someone from the game is like raw steak dangled in front of a hungry lion.
If it was announced that the game needed to gain and keep new players if it was to survive, they wouldn't care.
They don't care about the game. All they care about is getting their cheap kicks out of it, for as long as they can. If it shut down, they'd just look for the next game to move on to.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Well a week ago i was debating which MMO to try out after leaving EVE - Online. The look of the game is fantastic i admit and the map's are big but i just wished it was a open world like SWG rather then zone's are instanced. Grinding my char was so frustrating. Unless you know some one to group with, you'll be faced with being ganked pretty much every time you go out to quest. Got to a stage where i was leaving a zone because gankers would simply not leave me alone.. im all for PVP but when you already have a group of NPC on you, a player most likley above your level will just finish you off. Social aspect the " global " chat was pretty much full of trash and imature comments though i admit i did find a friendly guild. I tried the PVP Catch the flag and i really enjoyed that but i was waiting many hours to even be able to enter one. Must be because of my level (29). The game doesnt really give you reason's for wanting to stay on the grind to 80.. im already bored of go kill x y and z a million times over plus having to keep walking back to said quest because of most likley having a ranger fire a arrow up my rear. It could be alot better if the social aspect of the game was better.. its attracted alot of people just out to ruin your day and mock you afterwards.. and if you beat them.. get ready for a few swear words sent your way. Im wondering wether to carry on or try WAR.. its so frustrating that people can ruin a game.. its my view and my view alone so please no flaming
This shows why PVP does NOT work in RPG's,it only caters to a VERY small %.This was your mistake picking a PVP server,i tried the game but on a PVE server.
If you got 29 in one week you are moving along pretty darn fast,too fast IMO.That is why you are burning out,one because you must be playing quite a few hours to grind and two because the game levels you nicely doing the quests.So you are going about the game perhaps the wrong way,i noticed that trying to grind instead of questing makes it feel VERY grindy,i quickly got away from that type of playing.It is a lot more fun being part of a story anyhow,grinding feels more like just sitting in some corner soloing.
All i can tell you in your quest for the holy grail is that ,you keep picking PVP type games you will NEVER be happy unless you stumble onto some high rank guild that is willing to baby sit you and watch your every back.PVP is all about advantage,so do you really want to be a part of that GANKING stigma?Either killing inferiors,or being killed as an inferior,pretty superficial and unchallenging game play imo anyhow.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If your on Tyranny, they were having "Kill noobs that got AoC on christmas" day, even though I dont see why, since it would hurt the population even more.
Ask the people left in Shadowbane who basically still do the same thing to the few new people who trickle into that game why they do it.
I'm sure the mentality is no different. In a nutshell: They don't care.
Those types of players ("career griefers", you could call them) don't care how well or poorly the game is doing, they don't see the possible long-term harm of what they do. All they care about is that they're entertained at someone else's expense. The thought that they might drive someone from the game is like raw steak dangled in front of a hungry lion.
If it was announced that the game needed to gain and keep new players if it was to survive, they wouldn't care.
They don't care about the game. All they care about is getting their cheap kicks out of it, for as long as they can. If it shut down, they'd just look for the next game to move on to.
Cynical. But probably a pretty accurate description for "true-griefers".
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I am confused... Is this your first MMO?
You have a problem with quests that make you kill x amount of creatures or gather x amount of items and people ganking you on a pvp server. Am I missing something? Because it sounds like you're making it out that AoC has a completely unorthodox approach to quests and ganking compared to other games.
In this case, I would say forget PvE servers... and traditional MMO games like WAR, WoW, AoC etc. Maybe give EVE another try...
You said you are coming from Eve well imagine AoC is like Eve but all the zones are 0.0 sec space.
AoC is perfect ganking game, you dont have limitation's Asian game like to use aka Karma system god forbid you kill someone and then drop everything.
As for the system ScaredGirl said well the last time he/she played was in May 08 and there is a system so if anyone is killing those 6 level bellow will get murderer points and with those there are certain restrictions not to mention grind to work them off.
Since AoC implemented PvP XP back in September you can expect majority of players will attack you at least for 1st 5 times while you are still giving more then 1 XP
Now as for DF you should really stay away then cause there they wont just kill you they will also loot everything you have.
p.s. AoC is getting into looting direction too now ...
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I think he likes pvp so rerolling to a pve server is a bad solution for his problem.
Pvp servers in AoC are nothing more than a huge gankfest. Unless you play with a couple of friends you have ZERO chance of surviving. There are many professional gank squads who will grief you for HOURS until you logout.
These kind of nolife gankers exist in all pvp games but in AoC there's 10 times more of them because AoC is the perfect game for a ganker.
They should have some kind of WORKING system of dealing with this kind of behavior but they don't. And that's why many people have left the game and are leaving every day.
I predict in a couple of months all they have left is a couple of servers with gankers ganking each other. Awesome pvp game.
Yea the first time I went to White sand isles non night mode, I quit and rolled on Set.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
[quote][i]Originally posted by LordSkaal[/i]
Thank you for the replies
The server im on is " FURY " and yes i was also told to go back to WoW hehe . You see the point is i LOVE PvP but not every day constant ganking. I played a far harsher game in EVE where we acutally lost what we used but the problem in AoC is you have no idea if a player is about to attack you with every one having the skill " hide " .
Yesterday i was acutally having alot of fun grouping with another new player and we met another two players doing the same quests as us. We left them to avoid a gank fest and in turn it seem'd they avoided us also. It was only when we reached a " BOSS " that they attacked us and lost. But this is where it got silly, They called in guild members 20 levels above us and ganked us till we had no choice to log off .
In that time i was told to f*** off and not come back and if they ever see me again will face the same punishment. I tried saying we only fought back but wasnt getting any where.
Today i switched zone's to a much bigger map after being tipped off its a bit quieter ie less room for ganks but still i had people trying to ruin it. Its just a big shame that leave's me with no desire to carry on.
I think that going back to WAR where i have a level 30 odd toon will be a better idea. If i want to PVP i can join a instance and at least i will have fellow faction members "wanting" to back me up rather then also ganking me.
There comes a point where PVP isnt PVP and AoC sum's it up.. people who start AoC and make it to level 80, i can only salute you for carrying on . After WAR i dont see any other MMO's taking my fancy apart from DARKFALL which i still think might fail.
Im posting this because im honestly gutted its turned out this way and just the way its happend as there are time's you can have fun but the system will simply spoil it for you.
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Your problem is that you don't like FFA. The same complaints you are using is the exact reason why other games don't do FFA. Because everyone wants exp, so anything goes to get it. If you don't like AoC you'll hate DF because 1) There aren't any PvE servers, 2) Its FFA, and 3) When you get ganked you will lose your gear.
AoC isn't about mini games. Mini games don't give you more exp for winning.
Tyranny isn't just a huge gank fest, although it does happen. Usually the gankers actually suck at the game, so having 1-2 other people with you will make it so you can beat them. And as far as the boss thing, well you both needed the boss for a quest, its ffa, instead of taking turns which could take hrs, you kill the other team off and take the boss then leave. I loved doing that when the game launched because every grind spot was fought over and the PvP was intense.
In AoC, especially on a PvP server, you need a guild.
The ones that can't handle getting ganked usually quit the first month. And Carebears brought us the concsquence system which actually punishes high lvls for grifing low lvls.
AoC isn't for everyone, and mainly because its an FFA PvP game and the PvE servers don't want to PvP.
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Warhammer - Xpiher
I see some people suggesting that you play on a PvE server. The biggest problem with PvE servers are that they currently have very low populations so it will be kinda hard to get a group unless you are in a pretty big guild.
Personally, I would suggest that you grab a copy of WAR and play that game until Darkfall gets released.
IMO, a player trying to transition into a new MMO shouldnt have to go to a forum to get tips on how to have fun in the game. If a player is having a hard time trying to have fun in a MMO then most likely that game isnt for him.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
The PvE servers that are recommended have plenty of players. WAR's combat is borning. And if he doesn't like FFA in this game he'll loath FFA in DF because there when you are ganked your gear, all your gear and most of your items, are taken from you. DF will have the same problems AoC has with people complaining about the PvP, maybe a little less since the full loot will attract some players, but the avg gamer will not like that game. Furthermore, it is grindy.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
I read your post (as difficult as it was with the lack of formatting) , and I'm sure he just doesn't like the AoC community (after all, a good community would weed out the a**holes or at least ostricize them). FFA PVP would be fine with the right community and a decent game. Mentioning DF on the AoC boards will get you cursed and told to STFU and GTFO, so I am not so sure that those folks would leave their "newbie killing comfort zone" to play DF and have the chance to get their own stuff looted.
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
I read your post (as difficult as it was with the lack of formatting) , and I'm sure he just doesn't like the AoC community (after all, a good community would weed out the a**holes or at least ostricize them). FFA PVP would be fine with the right community and a decent game. Mentioning DF on the AoC boards will get you cursed and told to STFU and GTFO, so I am not so sure that those folks would leave their "newbie killing comfort zone" to play DF and have the chance to get their own stuff looted.
His post was not that hard to understand for all of us (Just for the record).
That type of petulant and unhelpful behavior doesn't surprise me at all from some of the AOC community .
Yip really helping bringing in the numbers for the future of the game
If you can't stand FFA PvP then roll on a PvE server. All that "event" was a welcoming party. People hopped on their lowbies and went around and PvPed. Res pad camping doesn't happen that often anymore.
According to the OP it would seem that res pad camping is just as popular as it ever was. Also the OP already stated that he plays PVP on other games and enjoys PVP, what he doesn't enjoy is being ganked by multiple people much higher level than himself (which hasn't changed much either). Some welcoming party....Hey I'm enjoying being 20th lvl and being res pad camped by 10 80s until I log out.... sweet....
AoC PVP servers attract the types of people who gank, harass and like to ruin it for others , which is great since that means the worst people aren't playing the other games any longer, so AoC is like a prison colony for bullies. (sure other games have their share of a**holes, but AoC has more pure gankers than any other game I have ever played).
If you read the rest of the post I said he doesn't like FFA PvP, and RES pad ganking on my server doesn't happen that often. OH and most of these res pad, ganking, no skill, lifeless people will go to DF. So if you hate having it happen to you in AoC stay away from DF
I read your post (as difficult as it was with the lack of formatting) , and I'm sure he just doesn't like the AoC community (after all, a good community would weed out the a**holes or at least ostricize them). FFA PVP would be fine with the right community and a decent game. Mentioning DF on the AoC boards will get you cursed and told to STFU and GTFO, so I am not so sure that those folks would leave their "newbie killing comfort zone" to play DF and have the chance to get their own stuff looted.
No it doesn't well not on the NA boards. Most people say "I'm going to try it" or "Don't get your hopes up because its made by a smaller company than FC" or its "its going to be a massive grind" Most of the gankers and "retards" are going to be trying to DF.
And I'm sorry that when you hit quote and then past the quote into the an post you edit the format doesn't stay.
And btw, the entire community does't act like donkey's, some do but most don't.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
This post really sums up AoC community: Its a gank/zerg fest retailed as a pvp game but if you dont like it you get reroll a low population and pve (something the game really doesnt excel at) or just go back to wow.
I have never know such a defensive community in a game so far.
Im not an AOC fanboy by any stretch but I am having trouble feelingyour pain when you are ona pvp server. The stereotypical person who rolls one one of these is going to gank whomever they can becasue it makes their epeen tingle so you have to expect this to happen.
Theres nothing wrong with the system when it says PVP beside the server name. Sadly if the side games where used more heavily I would say roll on a PVE server before you get to far but I doubt that you would get your fill of pvp waiting hours to que up.
Fungerer som det skal
Well you know people are confused it would be the same if someone said for WAR omg fu**ing order is constantly gank/zerg me .. same goes for WoW.
People need to accept that in AoC everyone is RED there are no faction and on top of that you gain PvP XP (and PvE) if you kill another player and on TOP of that you have diminishing XP meaning that you hunt for fresh kills ( at least 5 times = 1st kill 100xp, 2 80XP, 3 60XP, 4 40XP, 5 20XP and after it its just 1xp 1xp for same player for next 24h ) + on top of that add drops that will be implemented with new patch .. they started with BK resources drops and they plan to implement even more drops later on .. the fact is it will make game even worse for the people that hate PvP now.
I mean you have players that will say I love PvP but majority of those love PvP when its under their terms aka when I want to level I dont wanna be attacked when I wanna do PvP i will go to some PvP enable zone.
What Age of Conan did is they made very PvP orientated game without using RvR system .. true game have several flaws that are not fixed yet when it comes to other stuff like crafting, itemization etc..
In PvP regard AoC is quite unique for 2008 most of other games are either RvR or they have penalties when it comes to PvP aka Karma system etc ...
IMO playing AoC on PvE server is not really a good choice as AoC is far from very good PvE game ...
Its either you can handle it or not .. hehe otherwise go back to wow :P
(joking)
Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]
Ask the people left in Shadowbane who basically still do the same thing to the few new people who trickle into that game why they do it.
I'm sure the mentality is no different. In a nutshell: They don't care.
Those types of players ("career griefers", you could call them) don't care how well or poorly the game is doing, they don't see the possible long-term harm of what they do. All they care about is that they're entertained at someone else's expense. The thought that they might drive someone from the game is like raw steak dangled in front of a hungry lion.
If it was announced that the game needed to gain and keep new players if it was to survive, they wouldn't care.
They don't care about the game. All they care about is getting their cheap kicks out of it, for as long as they can. If it shut down, they'd just look for the next game to move on to.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
This shows why PVP does NOT work in RPG's,it only caters to a VERY small %.This was your mistake picking a PVP server,i tried the game but on a PVE server.
If you got 29 in one week you are moving along pretty darn fast,too fast IMO.That is why you are burning out,one because you must be playing quite a few hours to grind and two because the game levels you nicely doing the quests.So you are going about the game perhaps the wrong way,i noticed that trying to grind instead of questing makes it feel VERY grindy,i quickly got away from that type of playing.It is a lot more fun being part of a story anyhow,grinding feels more like just sitting in some corner soloing.
All i can tell you in your quest for the holy grail is that ,you keep picking PVP type games you will NEVER be happy unless you stumble onto some high rank guild that is willing to baby sit you and watch your every back.PVP is all about advantage,so do you really want to be a part of that GANKING stigma?Either killing inferiors,or being killed as an inferior,pretty superficial and unchallenging game play imo anyhow.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Ask the people left in Shadowbane who basically still do the same thing to the few new people who trickle into that game why they do it.
I'm sure the mentality is no different. In a nutshell: They don't care.
Those types of players ("career griefers", you could call them) don't care how well or poorly the game is doing, they don't see the possible long-term harm of what they do. All they care about is that they're entertained at someone else's expense. The thought that they might drive someone from the game is like raw steak dangled in front of a hungry lion.
If it was announced that the game needed to gain and keep new players if it was to survive, they wouldn't care.
They don't care about the game. All they care about is getting their cheap kicks out of it, for as long as they can. If it shut down, they'd just look for the next game to move on to.
Cynical. But probably a pretty accurate description for "true-griefers".