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For anyone who says FFXI graphics are outdated
B1ight
Member Posts: 109
What you can do with a decent PC and FFXI 
... Beautiful if I do say so myself... Looks better then THAT OTHER GAME HAHAHA... looks better then most MMO's and its older then most too.
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those models are great...the textures on the walls however...
overall the graphics arent that bad (they work on most machines and still look decent so its a win win for most). One thing i cant get over is how badly my eyes burned everytime i tried to log in
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MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
I always though FFXI had excellent graphics. I am always puzzled when someone says these graphics are not good. I have never been bothered by that kind of stuff anyway as long as the game is good.
That DOES look great, who knew it's DirectX8. Can you tell us what your settings are?
FFXI: Gauhar - Odin
Even after all these years, FFXI still has the best-looking character models in an MMO. And the textures aren't bad either. Unlike WoW, FFXI's graphics have actually aged well over the years and don't look that dated.
I just dont like the looks of the races. They all look so... cant explain, I just dont like them.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
Chunky, that's what I thought at first. Being a huge FF fan I was really excited to install FFXI years ago, but the models were butt ugly except for Taru's. The textures are gorgeous, but I thought the models were really bulky, however in the PC version you can change the aspect ratio of the models so they appear slim and tall. That won me over
The hands are still pretty chunky though.
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I have always had a decent PC (multiple ones actually) and I also have a 360 ... I have never seen the graphics of FFXI look as good as your picture. What did you do to get them like that?
Chunky, that's what I thought at first. Being a huge FF fan I was really excited to install FFXI years ago, but the models were butt ugly except for Taru's. The textures are gorgeous, but I thought the models were really bulky, however in the PC version you can change the aspect ratio of the models so they appear slim and tall. That won me over
The hands are still pretty chunky though.
Screen shot please? :P
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
OK
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Actually ... taking another look at the pic ... the angle of the floor is really off ... you can't turn the camera in such a way that they angle of the picture is possible. Nor to I remember shadows being that detailed (although I think i have them turned down, but even at the highest I don't remember them being that good) ... gonna have to call bluff on the pic ...
Interested to know if the graphics can actually get to that level now... When I played they did not look like the SS posted here.
Interested to know if the graphics can actually get to that level now... When I played they did not look like the SS posted here.
Trouble is they don't look that good and I do play now. I mean .. my signature uses one of the model viewers. At least for me my graphics makes them look like that ...
Interested to know if the graphics can actually get to that level now... When I played they did not look like the SS posted here.
Trouble is they don't look that good and I do play now. I mean .. my signature uses one of the model viewers. At least for me my graphics makes them look like that ...
Have you tried registry editing?
I have seen better screenshots. You need to tweak your registry to get the game to look this good but it is doable. You don't even need a very powerful computer. These screenshots dated 04/21/2006.
Model viewer isn't that good. I use Phabin's and well my in game graphics look better.
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If you have a Nvidia card go into the NVIDIA CONTROL Panel and force settings on like below, or make a profile for FFXI with the same settings as these
Anisotropic filtering = 16x
AA = 16xQ
Antialiasing - Transparency = supersampling
Force mipmaps = trilinear
Texture filtering - Neg LOD bias = clamp
Texture filtering - Quality = High Quality
and then do this vnboards.ign.com/message.asp
Yep, I just tested it then and got mine looking that good, possibly better by turning up ALL the options in my ATI Catalyst Control Center, of course it came with a performances drop though
But not a very large one, so I figure if you only turn a few of certain options up, then it looks this good, and plays good too.
I think most peoples turnoff on the graphics is that they are muted compared to say WoW. I think the colors in FFXI help make it a more serious game actually - more for adult players than the bright kiddy colors on WoW. Yes, I've played both - I began playing FFXI in 2004 and WoW in 2006. I think the only reason people say they are outdated is because they're comparing them to a game like WoW - but playing FFXI isn't only about the graphics - its about the story and its freakin FF! How can you not love this game if you love any of the FF games? lol well unless you just don't like to have to interact with other people. anyway off subject for a minute - but the graphics aren't bad at all in fact this is my favorite i've ever taken and no this isn't adjusted at all -
But here's another one just to show a little more detail - oh and i've only cropped these photos and they were taken while I was on a old gateway so the resolution isn't the best anyway -
You are telling the person who refused to use windower (becasue it is cheating) and berates anyone who uses it (because it is cheating) to change the registry?
That's one thing. I could see that argument. It gives people who are using the windower an advantage over people who are not(PS2, XBOX).
Editing the registry provides no such advantage and serves merely to improve the game aesthetically.
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That's one thing. I could see that argument. It gives people who are using the windower an advantage over people who are not(PS2, XBOX).
Editing the registry provides no such advantage and serves merely to improve the game aesthetically.
Just to play devils advocate on this one. By changing the registry you could technically alter the colors/brightness/contrast of the game correct? If true by doing so you could possibily see a mob before you would if the registry was not changed. Thus you can change your path and avoid aggro where as someone doesn't have registry edited would do the same thing and get chomped. Just saying just about anything could be seen as a competitive advantage.
.dat editing for instance could be adventageous. You could conveiabily change the dat files so flees look like crabs and thus can been seen a lot easier before they aggro. Another thing that could be seen as just aesthetics (make a blue SH) that could be used to an advantage. dat switching is against ToA, I don't think registry editing is, but I have not read the ToA well enough. Any tampering with game files is against ToA ... I'm just not sure that the registry is considered a game file, I don't think so.
That's one thing. I could see that argument. It gives people who are using the windower an advantage over people who are not(PS2, XBOX).
Editing the registry provides no such advantage and serves merely to improve the game aesthetically.
Just to play devils advocate on this one. By changing the registry you could technically alter the colors/brightness/contrast of the game correct? If true by doing so you could possibily see a mob before you would if the registry was not changed. Thus you can change your path and avoid aggro where as someone doesn't have registry edited would do the same thing and get chomped. Just saying just about anything could be seen as a competitive advantage.
.dat editing for instance could be adventageous. You could conveiabily change the dat files so flees look like crabs and thus can been seen a lot easier before they aggro. Another thing that could be seen as just aesthetics (make a blue SH) that could be used to an advantage. dat switching is against ToA, I don't think registry editing is, but I have not read the ToA well enough. Any tampering with game files is against ToA ... I'm just not sure that the registry is considered a game file, I don't think so.
I've messed around with the registry enough. From what I've seen, it does not provide any such advantage as described by you(i.e.: seeing mobs before anyone else does). DrawDistance is not a config file setting, meaning it is not stored in the same place as resolution, MIP maps, bump mapping, hardware mouse, etc(which is pretty much all you can change in the registry).
Furthermore, I don't see how changing brightness/colors/contrast provides any advantage not attainable by changing settings on any TV no older than 1,000 years.
We're not talking about .DAT editing. .DAT files belong to SE, as it is part of their application. Having them, using them makes you subject to their terms of service. Changing them, in this case, is against those terms. Registry "files" are not files, per se. They are entries. Editing those entries, once again, provides no real tangible advantage within the game. That is, unless you consider changing weather effect intensity, turning on/off the opening cinematic, changing your background resolution, etc. an advantage.
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That's one thing. I could see that argument. It gives people who are using the windower an advantage over people who are not(PS2, XBOX).
Editing the registry provides no such advantage and serves merely to improve the game aesthetically.
Just to play devils advocate on this one. By changing the registry you could technically alter the colors/brightness/contrast of the game correct? If true by doing so you could possibily see a mob before you would if the registry was not changed. Thus you can change your path and avoid aggro where as someone doesn't have registry edited would do the same thing and get chomped. Just saying just about anything could be seen as a competitive advantage.
.dat editing for instance could be adventageous. You could conveiabily change the dat files so flees look like crabs and thus can been seen a lot easier before they aggro. Another thing that could be seen as just aesthetics (make a blue SH) that could be used to an advantage. dat switching is against ToA, I don't think registry editing is, but I have not read the ToA well enough. Any tampering with game files is against ToA ... I'm just not sure that the registry is considered a game file, I don't think so.
I've messed around with the registry enough. From what I've seen, it does not provide any such advantage as described by you(i.e.: seeing mobs before anyone else does). DrawDistance is not a config file setting, meaning it is not stored in the same place as resolution, MIP maps, bump mapping, hardware mouse, etc(which is pretty much all you can change in the registry).
Furthermore, I don't see how changing brightness/colors/contrast provides any advantage not attainable by changing settings on any TV no older than 1,000 years.
We're not talking about .DAT editing. .DAT files belong to SE, as it is part of their application. Having them, using them makes you subject to their terms of service. Changing them, in this case, is against those terms. Registry "files" are not files, per se. They are entries. Editing those entries, once again, provides no real tangible advantage within the game. That is, unless you consider changing weather effect intensity, turning on/off the opening cinematic, changing your background resolution, etc. an advantage.
I agree with you that they are not the same thing ... said I don't think changing the registry is against ToA.
Anywho ... changing weather, turing opening cinemtic off, resolution, ... none of that creates an advantage. Well less turing the weather effects off since it is less stuff to potentially lag you out ... but that brings me to my next point: Can't you already do all that stuff in game or with the configure application that comes with the game? Why go in and change the registry if you are already given the tools to do these very things? What is the advantage of the registry over the tool?
Yes, you are exactly correct. You can do everything you could in the registry through the configuration tools. Those are the only values that are stored in that area of the registry. The advantage is that you can make your game look a little better by changing it to values that are not in the configuration tool. The values are supported by the game(such as background resolution of 2048x2048), but are not in the configuration tool. Think of it like you're "overclocking" XI.
I don't know why these values are not in the tool, as I don't read around XI or SE forums or whatever. Maybe some of these options weren't supported when the game was created, or maybe the tool is set that way because the PS2 didn't support those options.
I play on a smaller screen now, and can say that messing with the registry doesn't create THAT MUCH of an effect performance. It's there, and noticeable, but you can live without it. I played on a big screen before, though, and holy hell. Let me tell you: if you played this game on a big screen without tweaking a little, you'd be the first one clawing around the internet like a rabid dog looking for a way to ease the strain on your eyes.
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Posted these before about a year ago, but this is an old char of mine using the registry editing and I'm forcing background textures too 2048*2048, and running in 1680*1050 resolution. Forced 16x AA, 16x AF, Trilinear Buffering, and forced viewing distance!
Truly a very beautiful game for DX8, only 30fps max, and designed using PS2 Technology.....and going on 7 years this spring! Rivals even the newer MMOs.......