Call me a fool, but i find it kind of refreshing that we arent getting a lot of info about the game. I can give you two games that no one had any trouble getting information about and videos of or anything else before launch, AOC and Vanguard. Enough said there i think. Maybe the game will be great, maybe it will flop, maybe i will like it, maybe i wont. But at least im not reading reports every day from the developers saying that this is in and that is in etc etc and then paying money to find out it was all lies.
I would agree, except for the fact that it is so easy to not lie. I won't call you a fool though.
Provide a nice list of features in (aka, DONE), and those that are planned for the future. It is THAT EASY.
Let's not mix-up a general lack of communication with a warm feeling of suspense. Not playing the game before release is a change in and of itself. Not knowing what the game has in it.... Well, why would someone bother buying it then?
Oh i agree with you, honesty would be great. But until that actually happens i am content with less lying.
I dont actually think it is possible that they are going to have every thing from their list in the game when it launches, and im fine with that. As long as that list doesnt disappear as soon as they get a little money. Im all for adding things in after the game is launched.
Ship to ship battles sound fantastic, but i dont care if they are in at launch. Im pretty sure that you arent going to be able to buy/make a ship at launch and hopefully not for a few months at least so im fine with that being added in after launch. We just have to look at it realistically, not as a troll and not as a fanatic. The fanatics have to except that it may not launch with everything and the trolls have to realise that if it doesnt that doesnt make it a failure.
The guy that attended this event and posted this info also put up this on youtube to silence the trolls :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrKYMzzmPkM Madrandomize own words for posting it was - http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=101001&page=7 "I didn't hear anything about 15 of january but i missed alot due to being outside of the building. Btw the video is just a proof i was there for the trolls nothing to see besides me and tasos near me."
Nice, to bad he couldnt get closer and video the whole deal though.
And heres a pic of Madrandomize so we are troll proof!
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Now that i remembered tasos also spole about subscription fee,i believe its something about 11-13 euros ,which he said is less that the reglar for the mmo market. Also i believe in a question he responded he said that 300k subs and more are sure a success for them but the game can sustain itself even on a far les sub number. He talked about wow much (as a reference cause people might have heard of it and its genre),he also said that darkfall doesn't aim at being another wow or wow-like game ,just that aims to offer what some of the wow players (that need more pvp and freedom) might want more from wow that wow cant offer them.(this last sentence doesn't make much sense!!! ) Again not to disprove the info about beta that has been written i will say again. I didn't hear anything about open beta date.I just asked tasos and he said yes,on the question of open beta (and he was smiling when he heard the question,maybe he wasn't expecting someone to ask him this and comming from the forums).
11-13 Euros calculates roughly as $14.98-17.70 if anyone is interested.
ANd that's cheaper than most mmos? Man, they gotta keep this stuff comin'.
Oh, and someone tell me how you have 300,000 subscribers when noone has supposedly bought the game yet?
The world dont spin arround US$ anymore, you have to wake up.
Not Aventurines fault the US$ is in such a crappy state. They elected George Bush and with that brought this financial mess on themself.
Now that i remembered tasos also spole about subscription fee,i believe its something about 11-13 euros ,which he said is less that the reglar for the mmo market. Also i believe in a question he responded he said that 300k subs and more are sure a success for them but the game can sustain itself even on a far les sub number. He talked about wow much (as a reference cause people might have heard of it and its genre),he also said that darkfall doesn't aim at being another wow or wow-like game ,just that aims to offer what some of the wow players (that need more pvp and freedom) might want more from wow that wow cant offer them.(this last sentence doesn't make much sense!!! ) Again not to disprove the info about beta that has been written i will say again. I didn't hear anything about open beta date.I just asked tasos and he said yes,on the question of open beta (and he was smiling when he heard the question,maybe he wasn't expecting someone to ask him this and comming from the forums).
11-13 Euros calculates roughly as $14.98-17.70 if anyone is interested.
ANd that's cheaper than most mmos? Man, they gotta keep this stuff comin'.
Oh, and someone tell me how you have 300,000 subscribers when noone has supposedly bought the game yet?
Not Aventurines fault the US$ is in such a crappy state. They elected George Bush and with that brought this financial mess on themself.
Corretion, George bushes brother Jebb rigged the Florida election.
zorvan you have to relize thats cheaper then most euro pay for games ussly us gets it for 15 amonth and they still have to pay 15 euro which is ussly more than us.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
Yup i would put myself in the fan archtype.
Were one of the largest Alfar only clans in Europe and been following DF since 2001.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
What an idiot
Oh how nice an insult... and what category would you fall under, pray tell?
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
What an idiot
Oh how nice an insult... and what category would you fall under, pray tell?
Not an insult just an observation.. take it anyway you want troll
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
What an idiot
Oh how nice an insult... and what category would you fall under, pray tell?
Not an insult just an observation.. take it anyway you want troll
I'm just the pointless skeptic pointing out the obvious without taking a stand nor picking a side... a troll "cons" or is a counter-point or negation of some sort, and someone who rebuts w/ and insult antagonizes for it's own sake and hence hates... so it should be quite clear and self-evident if you were to employ self-analysis what catergory you would fall under. That's all I'm saying
Now that i remembered tasos also spole about subscription fee,i believe its something about 11-13 euros ,which he said is less that the reglar for the mmo market. Also i believe in a question he responded he said that 300k subs and more are sure a success for them but the game can sustain itself even on a far les sub number. He talked about wow much (as a reference cause people might have heard of it and its genre),he also said that darkfall doesn't aim at being another wow or wow-like game ,just that aims to offer what some of the wow players (that need more pvp and freedom) might want more from wow that wow cant offer them.(this last sentence doesn't make much sense!!! ) Again not to disprove the info about beta that has been written i will say again. I didn't hear anything about open beta date.I just asked tasos and he said yes,on the question of open beta (and he was smiling when he heard the question,maybe he wasn't expecting someone to ask him this and comming from the forums).
11-13 Euros calculates roughly as $14.98-17.70 if anyone is interested.
ANd that's cheaper than most mmos? Man, they gotta keep this stuff comin'.
Oh, and someone tell me how you have 300,000 subscribers when noone has supposedly bought the game yet?
The world dont spin arround US$ anymore, you have to wake up.
Yeah, yeah. Until the next time you need your asses pulled out of the fire, then we'll be great again, as usual. Perhaps you need to "wake up". And this isn't a political thread, troll.
Not Aventurines fault the US$ is in such a crappy state. They elected George Bush and with that brought this financial mess on themself. Not the U.S. fault you have to pay VAT fees just to take a shit. God bless the senile and useless Queen. It's a good price for us Europeans. I think you better wait until after the 23rd before you declare Darkfall worth any price.
"The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands, To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming! On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
WTH happened to this thread, looks like it got way off track !
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I am going to confirm that Aventurine is still on the fast track of stupidity.
ok get lost please your really annoying. im so goign to laugh when everything webve been saying is true what will you do then ? ic an almost garrentee you everything will just be fine with DF maybe not perfect but it will be just fine
So some guy who claims to have been there and claims to have spoke to Tasos, claims Tasos confirmed there would be an open beta and the sub price would be 11-13 euros.
Thank god that's all cleared up then!
These skeptics are just crazy when they have hard facts like these staring them right in the face!
BTW have AV posted this info on thier website? Also did someone ask Tasos what the minnimum spec would be for DF?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
So some guy who claims to have been there and claims to have spoke to Tasos, claims Tasos confirmed there would be an open beta and the sub price would be 11-13 euros. Thank god that's all cleared up then! These skeptics are just crazy when they have hard facts like these staring them right in the face! BTW have AV posted this info on thier website? Also did someone ask Tasos what the minnimum spec would be for DF?
He also posted a video he took while there, with Tasos on stage, and showed his face to confirm he was there. He had talked about going previously, and he has been a trustworthy greek forum faller.
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Nono, if you are not for Darkfall 100%, you are troll. There is no middle ground. (Thats what a fanbois supposed to say right?)
I would agree, except for the fact that it is so easy to not lie. I won't call you a fool though.
Provide a nice list of features in (aka, DONE), and those that are planned for the future. It is THAT EASY.
Let's not mix-up a general lack of communication with a warm feeling of suspense. Not playing the game before release is a change in and of itself. Not knowing what the game has in it.... Well, why would someone bother buying it then?
Oh i agree with you, honesty would be great. But until that actually happens i am content with less lying.
I dont actually think it is possible that they are going to have every thing from their list in the game when it launches, and im fine with that. As long as that list doesnt disappear as soon as they get a little money. Im all for adding things in after the game is launched.
Ship to ship battles sound fantastic, but i dont care if they are in at launch. Im pretty sure that you arent going to be able to buy/make a ship at launch and hopefully not for a few months at least so im fine with that being added in after launch. We just have to look at it realistically, not as a troll and not as a fanatic. The fanatics have to except that it may not launch with everything and the trolls have to realise that if it doesnt that doesnt make it a failure.
Nice, to bad he couldnt get closer and video the whole deal though.
And heres a pic of Madrandomize so we are troll proof!
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5638/p0406080428pg0.jpg
Pick it, pack it, fire it up, come aloooong
and take hits from the boooong
Put the blunt down just for a second
Don't get me wrong it's not a new method
Inhale, Exhale - just got a ounce in the mail
I like a blunt or a big fat cone
But my double barrel bong is gettin me stoned
Home skillet, there's water inside don't spill it
It smells like shit on the carpet
Still it, goes down smooth when I get a clean hit
Of the skunky funky smelly green shit
Sing my song, puff all night long
As I take Hits from the bong...
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Hits-From-the-Bong-lyrics-Cypress-Hill/879BEBAEF03587B6482568B300326DFF
Opps thanks.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
11-13 Euros calculates roughly as $14.98-17.70 if anyone is interested.
ANd that's cheaper than most mmos? Man, they gotta keep this stuff comin'.
Oh, and someone tell me how you have 300,000 subscribers when noone has supposedly bought the game yet?
The world dont spin arround US$ anymore, you have to wake up.
Not Aventurines fault the US$ is in such a crappy state. They elected George Bush and with that brought this financial mess on themself.
It's a good price for us Europeans.
11-13 Euros calculates roughly as $14.98-17.70 if anyone is interested.
ANd that's cheaper than most mmos? Man, they gotta keep this stuff comin'.
Oh, and someone tell me how you have 300,000 subscribers when noone has supposedly bought the game yet?
Not Aventurines fault the US$ is in such a crappy state. They elected George Bush and with that brought this financial mess on themself.
Corretion, George bushes brother Jebb rigged the Florida election.
zorvan you have to relize thats cheaper then most euro pay for games ussly us gets it for 15 amonth and they still have to pay 15 euro which is ussly more than us.
Opps thanks.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
Yup i would put myself in the fan archtype.
Were one of the largest Alfar only clans in Europe and been following DF since 2001.
Opps thanks.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
Opps thanks.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
What an idiot
Opps thanks.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
What an idiot
Oh how nice an insult... and what category would you fall under, pray tell?
Opps thanks.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
What an idiot
Oh how nice an insult... and what category would you fall under, pray tell?
Not an insult just an observation.. take it anyway you want troll
Opps thanks.
And to the above poster, what else could you want? I for one want to find out about the game when I play it. Knowing that open beta and release are still gold is all that I need.
Some peopel are never pleased just ignore the troll
there are 4 basic archtypes at play in this website... Fanboi, Troll, Skeptic, and Hater... In this example (and analysing myself along with it, I would say we may fall under the following archtypes:
Aragon100: Troll (con against DF)
Strongaxe: Fanboi (pro believer in DF)
Mcpoopypants: Hater (for criticising Strongaxe for not ignoring Aragon)
Hidden1: (skeptic - for neither taking a side and just analysing the obvious and making no point at all).
How is aragon100 a troll? I dont think he has ever said anything negative about Darkfall? In fact he leads(i think) a very big EU DF guild.....
But you are spot on about me being a fanboi.
And when I posted "to the above poster" I wasnt talked about Aragon, I was talking to the guy who posted directly above me crying about lack of new info.
maybe I should make a poll and ask which archtype everyone falls under... just doubt people would be honest... hmmm.... i wonder
Here there is only two:
1.)Fanboi
2.)Troll
Otherwise known as
1.) Good
2.) Evil
1.)Wholesome
2.) Tainted
1.)Winners
2.) Losers
When I told strongaxe to ignore the troll I wasnt talking about aragorn...
hmmm still in my experience here I've noticed certain patterns from people... that's where I broke them down into 4 basic archtypes... Only 2 seems to simplify things into black and white situations, making it easy for arguments to srping up instead of debating and/or rebutals. I broke it down as follows:
Fanboi = "Pro" (argues in favor of a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc..)
Troll = "Con" (aruges against a game/company/gameplay mechanic/ etc...)
Skeptic = "Pointless/Neutral-ish" (analysis and/or sits on a fence, and is either indecisive and/or cautious but will sway from fanboi to hater dependant on how the arugment goes)
Hater = "Pointdriven/Negator" (causes turmoil for turmoils sake, for personal enjoyment, he/she may side w/ a troll one moment, then side w/ fanboi the next to help incite chaos because they think all the above categorys are idiotic and pointless)
... maybe we should do a poll?
Your hater definition is wrong. Causing turmoil for amusement is in NO way hate. Immature maybe.. maybe its CAUSED by hate sometimes.. but it, in itself is not hate.
Hmm, disagreeing with my defination would put you under the "Con" description and hence your response here seems trollish by it's own admonition.
What an idiot
Oh how nice an insult... and what category would you fall under, pray tell?
Not an insult just an observation.. take it anyway you want troll
I'm just the pointless skeptic pointing out the obvious without taking a stand nor picking a side... a troll "cons" or is a counter-point or negation of some sort, and someone who rebuts w/ and insult antagonizes for it's own sake and hence hates... so it should be quite clear and self-evident if you were to employ self-analysis what catergory you would fall under. That's all I'm saying
I only see winners, losers and bystanders.
On January 23, that's the only time you'll actually be able to put those labels on people's names.
"TO MICHAEL!"
11-13 Euros calculates roughly as $14.98-17.70 if anyone is interested.
ANd that's cheaper than most mmos? Man, they gotta keep this stuff comin'.
Oh, and someone tell me how you have 300,000 subscribers when noone has supposedly bought the game yet?
The world dont spin arround US$ anymore, you have to wake up.
Yeah, yeah. Until the next time you need your asses pulled out of the fire, then we'll be great again, as usual. Perhaps you need to "wake up". And this isn't a political thread, troll.
Not Aventurines fault the US$ is in such a crappy state. They elected George Bush and with that brought this financial mess on themself.
Not the U.S. fault you have to pay VAT fees just to take a shit. God bless the senile and useless Queen.
It's a good price for us Europeans.
I think you better wait until after the 23rd before you declare Darkfall worth any price.
Confirmed open beta and January 22-nd release.
I'm happy.
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
Great news
WTH happened to this thread, looks like it got way off track !
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
sorry to burst your bubble. But Tasos never confirmed any kind of open beta for the 15'th and in fact there was not even anything new said at all.
which really shouldn't surprise anybody
sorry to burst your bubble. But Tasos never confirmed any kind of open beta for the 15'th and in fact there was not even anything new said at all.
which really shouldn't surprise anybody
Tasos confirmed that there would be an open beta, the start date being the 15th was the false part. We don't know when it starts, but to reiterate;
Open beta has been confirmed.
sorry to burst your bubble. But Tasos never confirmed any kind of open beta for the 15'th and in fact there was not even anything new said at all.
which really shouldn't surprise anybody
Confirmation that the 22:th of january still stands as release date is something i appreciated alot.
That make me believe they're still on track.
ok get lost please your really annoying. im so goign to laugh when everything webve been saying is true what will you do then ? ic an almost garrentee you everything will just be fine with DF maybe not perfect but it will be just fine
sorry to burst your bubble. But Tasos never confirmed any kind of open beta for the 15'th and in fact there was not even anything new said at all.
which really shouldn't surprise anybody
Tasos confirmed that there would be an open beta, the start date being the 15th was the false part. We don't know when it starts, but to reiterate;
Open beta has been confirmed.
also release is prety much garrenteed unless something really goes boom
So some guy who claims to have been there and claims to have spoke to Tasos, claims Tasos confirmed there would be an open beta and the sub price would be 11-13 euros.
Thank god that's all cleared up then!
These skeptics are just crazy when they have hard facts like these staring them right in the face!
BTW have AV posted this info on thier website? Also did someone ask Tasos what the minnimum spec would be for DF?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
He also posted a video he took while there, with Tasos on stage, and showed his face to confirm he was there. He had talked about going previously, and he has been a trustworthy greek forum faller.