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ziembeeziembee Member UncommonPosts: 76

Seriously. 

Think people.

You answer your front door and see a goofy looking sales guy yapping on and on at you as soon as you open the door about his new "DF2010" model Vacuum cleaner and how great it works.

You allow the guy (Tasos) to come inside and keep telling you endless promises about how this is the best and greatest vacuum cleaner ever made (Darkfall vs other mmos). 

Yet when it comes time for him to actually show you how well it works, so you can see it, he tells you that the vacuum cleaner is actually at a friends house, but he has some photos of it you can see (Screenshots we've all seen a billion times).

He tells you he can get you a video of this vacuum cleaner in action "soon", but doesn't show up for 3 months and finally shows you a video of the vacuum cleaner at work.  The vacuum cleaner looks "okay" in this video that is obviously over edited and also obviously only showing the best of what it can do (you get the feeling that they aren't showing you the vacuum cleaner spitting the dirt back out after sucking it up for example).

He shows you accounts of customers who have tried this vacuum cleaner themselves, but these reviews are written unprofessionally and in crayon and marks-a-lot and they are written from no big  vacuum reviewer companies or websites, but instead from a handful of people and organizations which you have never even heard of before.

He tells you that you'll be able to test and buy your own vacuum cleaner with a feature list a mile long that makes even a Dyson vacuum cleaner look like crap in comparison.  He tells you it will be ready by the end of 2008 in September.  But 2008 ends and then he tells you that it will be ready by Jan 22.  However he leaves you not even the slightest clue how you will get it, buy it, or how it will be available for you to test as he promised you'd be able to do before your purchase.

Never heard of vacuum cleaner except by a few random fans across the country on a few random websites who have also never used or seen the vacuum cleaner in person.  They actually believe the promises such as "This vacuum cleaner will run on 2 AA batteries for 3 months turned on all that time and still be able to suck 10x more then a Dyson vacuum".  Anyone who even tries to explain to these fans that such a vacuum cleaner would be impossible to create are instantly labeled "trolls" and called horrific names on the vacuum forums by the fans.

10 days before you're supposed to be able to be able to buy the vacuum cleaner, you still have not heard a word from that mighty sales guy about when, how, or where you'll be able to test this vacuum cleaner out.  You post a statement that you "are confused about the lack of information so close to the release and promised date of being able to own the wonder of all vacuums and are instantly labeled a huge troll for even doubting a little.  These fans give you zero information, but a few give you links to the old photos of the vacuum you've seen months ago as to somehow "prove" to you that this vacuum is the real deal.  To your ration that you have doubts because of X, Y and Z... you are cast down as a big time troll.

 

Hmmm.  Just a random thought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • SabradinSabradin Member Posts: 772
    Originally posted by ziembee


    Seriously. Think people. Hmmm.  Just a random thought.



     

    You should have left it like this.

    Title says it all, post just needs to be straight.

    To answer your question.. I don't know.

    Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.

  • Thoric485Thoric485 Member UncommonPosts: 525

    Yeah, but it's in a world where the only good vacuum cleaners are 10 years old, and the newer ones require you to press a button 500 times to make a dice roll which determines wether they turn on for 2 minutes or not.

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    To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
    On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
  • VetarniasVetarnias Member UncommonPosts: 630

    To the OP: Bad comparison.  With vacuum cleaners, the more they suck, the better they are.

  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by Vetarnias


    To the OP: Bad comparison.  With vacuum cleaners, the more they suck, the better they are.

     

    win!

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  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225

     Considering your facts are um... a little off base, to say the least, I'd say "better than Age of Conan did" would be my answer. Money and advertisement doesn't equal a good game.

     

    What I don't understand is, why does the first company in FIVE years to come along and try to make a game of some unique quality, and you rip it to pieces? 

  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281

     Meh, I was labled a troll a long time ago by the fans, doesn't bother me much. In any case seems both the haters and the fans are just spinning their wheels at this point with Darkfall going live in what 11 more days. For better or worse we'll finally see what Darkfall is for ourselves.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by Vetarnias


    To the OP: Bad comparison.  With vacuum cleaners, the more they suck, the better they are.

    ROFL

  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281
    Originally posted by SignusM


     Considering your facts are um... a little off base, to say the least, I'd say "better than Age of Conan did" would be my answer. Money and advertisement doesn't equal a good game.
     
    What I don't understand is, why does the first company in FIVE years to come along and try to make a game of some unique quality, and you rip it to pieces? 



     

     You mean like DnL did, or Mourning? At this point your statement could have been used before their releases / near releases just as much. Aventurine isn't the first company in 5 years to come along and try this as you state or at least  hasn't shown anything yet IMO that makes it any better / different in what its attempting then in what those others attempted. Sure DF might be a great game, but then if it is Why not drop the NDA? Why not invite some media other then a close personal friend of several years to try the game out and report on it? Why is there so little basic information on it this close to release? (ie system specs, where can it be bought, subscriber plans etc etc.)

     There are many questions, some fans are willing to blindly believe everything Tasos says, others of us are not. In either case both sides will see in 11 some days

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by winter

    Originally posted by SignusM


     Considering your facts are um... a little off base, to say the least, I'd say "better than Age of Conan did" would be my answer. Money and advertisement doesn't equal a good game.
     
    What I don't understand is, why does the first company in FIVE years to come along and try to make a game of some unique quality, and you rip it to pieces? 



       Why not drop the NDA? Why not invite some media other then a close personal friend of several years to try the game out and report on it? Why is there so little basic information on it this close to release? (ie system specs, where can it be bought, subscriber plans etc etc.)

     There are many questions, some fans are willing to blindly believe everything Tasos says, others of us are not. In either case both sides will see in 11 some days

    NDA for MMOs usually drops when open beta hits. 

    Media HAS been invited, the media phase of the beta started on the 5th, and before that, there were about 4 magazine articles, MMOItalia and their review, Ten Ton Hammer, and Womens' Gamers.

     

    I will agree, the basic information is lacking, we're all waiting to see it. Shouldn't be long now. 

  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501
    Originally posted by SignusM


     Considering your facts are um... a little off base, to say the least, I'd say "better than Age of Conan did" would be my answer. Money and advertisement doesn't equal a good game.
     
    What I don't understand is, why does the first company in FIVE years to come along and try to make a game of some unique quality, and you rip it to pieces? 



     

    Age of Conan had an open beta. 'nuff said.

     

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • xxxfistxxxxxxfistxxx Member Posts: 47

     

    Some folks are getting really worked up...

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by Volkmar

    Originally posted by SignusM


     Considering your facts are um... a little off base, to say the least, I'd say "better than Age of Conan did" would be my answer. Money and advertisement doesn't equal a good game.
     
    What I don't understand is, why does the first company in FIVE years to come along and try to make a game of some unique quality, and you rip it to pieces? 



     

    Age of Conan had an open beta. 'nuff said.

     

    And it was also one of the buggiest, incomplete, worst betas of all time ;) 

  • VetarniasVetarnias Member UncommonPosts: 630
    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by Volkmar

    Originally posted by SignusM


     Considering your facts are um... a little off base, to say the least, I'd say "better than Age of Conan did" would be my answer. Money and advertisement doesn't equal a good game.
     
    What I don't understand is, why does the first company in FIVE years to come along and try to make a game of some unique quality, and you rip it to pieces? 



     

    Age of Conan had an open beta. 'nuff said.

     

    And it was also one of the buggiest, incomplete, worst betas of all time ;) 

    But it had one.

  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692

    How about this.

     

    Instead of getting worked up over a lack of update on a game that you care about, which you obviously do otherwise you would shut up and go away, just stop caring so much about it.

     

    That way if it doesn't come out, you don't really mind, as you are busy, oh I dunno, having a life and not staring at a screen waiting for something to show up and whisk you off to Wonderland to dance in the daisies with a sissy lion and some inanimate objects.

     

    Or alternately, you are happy when it does come out, and you aren't let down by the inevitable fact that it isn't everything you've dreamed of, nor what they promised, as building all that stuff (especially while being a small independent company) and debugging it, making sure servers work well, and aiming to have a survivable amount of revenue to make up for the money you sank into the game before even being capable of putting out proper updates.

     

    In other words, dear readers, get over it.

     

    One way or the other there's going to be things one likes and dislikes.

     

    As far as whether or not the game is actually about to be released, stop pinning hope of enjoyment and joy on a bunch of pixels.

     

    Signed,

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  • 1pitboss1pitboss Member Posts: 70

    Personally, I'm sick hearing about Darkfall. How long have we been hearing it is coming out? I think the answer is years. This game is dead and I would be surprised if it ever came out and if it did I think it would be a rush job and big let down. No one knows anyhting about the company and information at least on here seems to be just rumors no hard facts. We are never going to go back to the (pre) anything times of gaming that many now older gamers seem to long for. Here is the other reason why I think it will not come out is because the Orc,Elves and Dwarf is just way over done in games now. Many of the biggest Tolkien type successful games on the market now are really all the same when you break it down.  There is no bad game if the game you are playing you enjoy, even if you may be the only one playing it. Let's face gaming is cheap entertainment available to you in your home 24 hrs a day 7 days a week and you can play with anyone around the world you want. I think what people want is more quality not more of the same which Darkfall seems to be an extension of. Besides, the company itself seems a bit shady not sure if I would plunk down my money on them. But go ahead and hope anyways, that is anyone's right all I can say is good luck.

  • The-NitThe-Nit Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by 1pitboss


    Personally, I'm sick hearing about Darkfall. How long have we been hearing it is coming out? I think the answer is years. This game is dead and I would be surprised if it ever came out and if it did I think it would be a rush job and big let down. No one knows anyhting about the company and information at least on here seems to be just rumors no hard facts. We are never going to go back to the (pre) anything times of gaming that many now older gamers seem to long for. Here is the other reason why I think it will not come out is because the Orc,Elves and Dwarf is just way over done in games now. Many of the biggest Tolkien type successful games on the market now are really all the same when you break it down.  There is no bad game if the game you are playing you enjoy, even if you may be the only one playing it. Let's face gaming is cheap entertainment available to you in your home 24 hrs a day 7 days a week and you can play with anyone around the world you want. I think what people want is more quality not more of the same which Darkfall seems to be an extension of. Besides, the company itself seems a bit shady not sure if I would plunk down my money on them. But go ahead and hope anyways, that is anyone's right all I can say is good luck.

    HAHAH.. that is such a wierd rant... Seems you know nothing about darkfall, aventurine, mmo trends... 

    And i love the classic argument: They have been in development for way to long, if they release now i bet it will be a rush job... huh what?

  • BigdavoBigdavo Member UncommonPosts: 1,863
    Originally posted by The-Nit

    Originally posted by 1pitboss


    Personally, I'm sick hearing about Darkfall. How long have we been hearing it is coming out? I think the answer is years. This game is dead and I would be surprised if it ever came out and if it did I think it would be a rush job and big let down. No one knows anyhting about the company and information at least on here seems to be just rumors no hard facts. We are never going to go back to the (pre) anything times of gaming that many now older gamers seem to long for. Here is the other reason why I think it will not come out is because the Orc,Elves and Dwarf is just way over done in games now. Many of the biggest Tolkien type successful games on the market now are really all the same when you break it down.  There is no bad game if the game you are playing you enjoy, even if you may be the only one playing it. Let's face gaming is cheap entertainment available to you in your home 24 hrs a day 7 days a week and you can play with anyone around the world you want. I think what people want is more quality not more of the same which Darkfall seems to be an extension of. Besides, the company itself seems a bit shady not sure if I would plunk down my money on them. But go ahead and hope anyways, that is anyone's right all I can say is good luck.

    HAHAH.. that is such a wierd rant... Seems you know nothing about darkfall, aventurine, mmo trends... 

    And i love the classic argument: They have been in development for way to long, if they release now i bet it will be a rush job... huh what?



     

    HAHAH.. and guess what the funny part is.. you have no fucking clue either! In fact no one knows how this game is going to pan out till its released.

    O_o o_O

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Vetarnias


    To the OP: Bad comparison.  With vacuum cleaners, the more they suck, the better they are.

     

    You, sir, are my new "Idol of the Day".

  • originaleggoriginalegg Member Posts: 1,099

    Obvious troll is obvious.

    If OP actually was objective and not biased his title would haven't contained lies about the video releasing in September (while it was the last day in August, why not just say August?  Oh right your agenda...)

    Oh it was also hardly promised in may lol.

    Like others in this thread, i really just read the title and didnt bother with your OP rant that was just garbage combined with lies and half-truths.

    Most talked about game =)  Thanks to you fine folk lol.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by Vetarnias


    To the OP: Bad comparison.  With vacuum cleaners, the more they suck, the better they are.

     

    this

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  • SeeshinSeeshin Member Posts: 64

    i loled it was really funny op thanks for the read

  • SezerzSezerz Member Posts: 8
    Originally posted by originalegg


     just garbage combined with lies and half-truths.



     

    Kind of like  Darkfalls development over the last 6 years eh?

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by Bigdavo

    Originally posted by The-Nit

    Originally posted by 1pitboss


    Personally, I'm sick hearing about Darkfall. How long have we been hearing it is coming out? I think the answer is years. This game is dead and I would be surprised if it ever came out and if it did I think it would be a rush job and big let down. No one knows anyhting about the company and information at least on here seems to be just rumors no hard facts. We are never going to go back to the (pre) anything times of gaming that many now older gamers seem to long for. Here is the other reason why I think it will not come out is because the Orc,Elves and Dwarf is just way over done in games now. Many of the biggest Tolkien type successful games on the market now are really all the same when you break it down.  There is no bad game if the game you are playing you enjoy, even if you may be the only one playing it. Let's face gaming is cheap entertainment available to you in your home 24 hrs a day 7 days a week and you can play with anyone around the world you want. I think what people want is more quality not more of the same which Darkfall seems to be an extension of. Besides, the company itself seems a bit shady not sure if I would plunk down my money on them. But go ahead and hope anyways, that is anyone's right all I can say is good luck.

    HAHAH.. that is such a wierd rant... Seems you know nothing about darkfall, aventurine, mmo trends... 

    And i love the classic argument: They have been in development for way to long, if they release now i bet it will be a rush job... huh what?



     

    HAHAH.. and guess what the funny part is.. you have no fucking clue either! In fact no one knows how this game is going to pan out till its released.

    nope we dont 

  • ougaritougarit Member Posts: 317
    Originally posted by ziembee


    Seriously. 
    Think people.
    You answer your front door and see a goofy looking sales guy yapping on and on at you as soon as you open the door about his new "DF2010" model Vacuum cleaner and how great it works.
    You allow the guy (Tasos) to come inside and keep telling you endless promises about how this is the best and greatest vacuum cleaner ever made (Darkfall vs other mmos). 
    Yet when it comes time for him to actually show you how well it works, so you can see it, he tells you that the vacuum cleaner is actually at a friends house, but he has some photos of it you can see (Screenshots we've all seen a billion times).
    He tells you he can get you a video of this vacuum cleaner in action "soon", but doesn't show up for 3 months and finally shows you a video of the vacuum cleaner at work.  The vacuum cleaner looks "okay" in this video that is obviously over edited and also obviously only showing the best of what it can do (you get the feeling that they aren't showing you the vacuum cleaner spitting the dirt back out after sucking it up for example).
    He shows you accounts of customers who have tried this vacuum cleaner themselves, but these reviews are written unprofessionally and in crayon and marks-a-lot and they are written from no big  vacuum reviewer companies or websites, but instead from a handful of people and organizations which you have never even heard of before.
    He tells you that you'll be able to test and buy your own vacuum cleaner with a feature list a mile long that makes even a Dyson vacuum cleaner look like crap in comparison.  He tells you it will be ready by the end of 2008 in September.  But 2008 ends and then he tells you that it will be ready by Jan 22.  However he leaves you not even the slightest clue how you will get it, buy it, or how it will be available for you to test as he promised you'd be able to do before your purchase.
    Never heard of vacuum cleaner except by a few random fans across the country on a few random websites who have also never used or seen the vacuum cleaner in person.  They actually believe the promises such as "This vacuum cleaner will run on 2 AA batteries for 3 months turned on all that time and still be able to suck 10x more then a Dyson vacuum".  Anyone who even tries to explain to these fans that such a vacuum cleaner would be impossible to create are instantly labeled "trolls" and called horrific names on the vacuum forums by the fans.
    10 days before you're supposed to be able to be able to buy the vacuum cleaner, you still have not heard a word from that mighty sales guy about when, how, or where you'll be able to test this vacuum cleaner out.  You post a statement that you "are confused about the lack of information so close to the release and promised date of being able to own the wonder of all vacuums and are instantly labeled a huge troll for even doubting a little.  These fans give you zero information, but a few give you links to the old photos of the vacuum you've seen months ago as to somehow "prove" to you that this vacuum is the real deal.  To your ration that you have doubts because of X, Y and Z... you are cast down as a big time troll.
     
    Hmmm.  Just a random thought.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     Who cares ?

    Let the fanboys pay and pray.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    The questions are legitime but they don't prove one thing or another. Maybe they just don't do marketing or suck at that.

    But it wouldn't suprise me one bit if they postpone the launch again. Or if the game is half done, but we won't really know that until launch so just relax.

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