EVE is the epidemy of point-and-click MMOs. That's all you do. Only time you use your keyboard is to chat or type in how much you want to buy something for...not my tastes. If i wanted an auto-battle, point-and-click I'd go play WoW.
you're kidding right? only your mouse?
Guess you don't use function keys or keyboard shortcuts?
or the alt key to target without that right click menu?
If played right Eve uses the keyboard just as much as anyother mmo.
You show me a pilot that uses his mouse 100% of the time and I'll show you that same pilot in a pod.
You show me a pilot that uses his mouse 100% of the time and I'll show you that same pilot in a pod.
Well said. Most things i do in eve require your hand covering at least ctrl, f1-f4, f5-f8, all numbers for quick orbit adjustments, alt, then the many shortcuts for drones, broadcasts and other ship functions..
Sure, you can play with your mouse only, just as you can use most "user friendly" os guis with only a mouse..but to really do something, you need to know shortcuts and how to use a keyboard efficiently.
if you play eve like it's one of the cookie cutter easy mode mmos -- of course you won't enjoy it, nor "get it".
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Yeah, he hit this game dead on. Seriously, this game baffles me beyond belief. When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game. No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does.
when you read posts like this, it's incredibly hard to not reply with a "sorry you can't read" attitude.
what exactly is it that required you to spend "more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game"? aren't you able to build a toon that pretty much starts in a cruiser nowadays? that would make me think you can start a toon that does VERY will in a frig, out of the gate.
inactivity? so, it's better to grind to lvl 80, then grind faction with a dozen groups, then grind crafting skills for cooking, first aid, fishing plus two "main profession" skills, then grind pvp for honor for the pvp purples, then grind dungeon after dungeon 50 times over so everyone in your team can get that tier of gear, and then you go to the next dungeon, rinse and repeat.
vs. being able to join in on faction warfare pvp the first day of your play?
really?
seriously?
I'm not endorsing WoW in any way here, but I'd just like to point out that it's a preference thing. Some people want to control the pace of their skill leveling, and some like EvE's approach. Also, you don't normally repeat quests in WoW with the same character. Finally, you CAN do all of your above mentioned activities in WoW, but they aren't required to enjoy the game.
Oh, and what completely new player would want, or could afford, to start FW and sign off frigs to the trash pile on their first day?
Again, I'm not endorsing WoW, but simply putting forth a few educated opinions.
Yeah, he hit this game dead on. Seriously, this game baffles me beyond belief. When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game. No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does.
when you read posts like this, it's incredibly hard to not reply with a "sorry you can't read" attitude.
what exactly is it that required you to spend "more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game"? aren't you able to build a toon that pretty much starts in a cruiser nowadays? that would make me think you can start a toon that does VERY will in a frig, out of the gate.
inactivity? so, it's better to grind to lvl 80, then grind faction with a dozen groups, then grind crafting skills for cooking, first aid, fishing plus two "main profession" skills, then grind pvp for honor for the pvp purples, then grind dungeon after dungeon 50 times over so everyone in your team can get that tier of gear, and then you go to the next dungeon, rinse and repeat.
vs. being able to join in on faction warfare pvp the first day of your play?
really?
seriously?
I'm not endorsing WoW in any way here, but I'd just like to point out that it's a preference thing. Some people want to control the pace of their skill leveling, and some like EvE's approach. Also, you don't normally repeat quests in WoW with the same character. Finally, you CAN do all of your above mentioned activities in WoW, but they aren't required to enjoy the game.
Oh, and what completely new player would want, or could afford, to start FW and sign off frigs to the trash pile on their first day?
Again, I'm not endorsing WoW, but simply putting forth a few educated opinions.
um, you don't repeat up to 25 daily quests every day in wow?
preference is one thing, but how does preference fit in with "When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game." ? plus i was mentioning how you can start off in eve, relatively higher, than you could possibly begin in wow.
if you're not doing all those things in wow; then, what are you doing? you can only explore so much. repeating dungeons (whether raid or not), is still grinding one or more of the things i mentioned.
'"No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does." << that also does not seem to apply to controlling the speed at which you can skill/level?
i think i was comparing joining FW on the first day, vs having to wait months to do things in wow. but um, since you bring it up... lvl 1 combat missions pay pretty well. and the point is that you CAN join in on "level appropriate" pvp the first day in eve.
i understand you're not supporting wow; but, i'm not seeing where your points were in reply to my points.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
i learned that the person talking didn't join a player corporation (nor have any desire to), read absolutely nothing about the game, and honestly, sounds like he didn't even do the tutorial.
in all truth, i'd be surprised if he'd ever logged into the game.
honestly, either way, the video does sound like someone that's one of those two categories, and if you played for 4 years and that's the impression/feeling you have of eve, well, i'd have to remind you that time in a game doesn't equate to experience or being good at said game.
if he was trying to be funny, i didn't get that either, he really just sounded upset that he was wrong about all games being wow-wannabes (even games that predated wow which wow copied from...), and that people emailed/messaged him about eve.
perhaps he found an old box from eve and he just did his review based on that?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Yeah, he hit this game dead on. Seriously, this game baffles me beyond belief. When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game. No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does.
when you read posts like this, it's incredibly hard to not reply with a "sorry you can't read" attitude.
what exactly is it that required you to spend "more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game"? aren't you able to build a toon that pretty much starts in a cruiser nowadays? that would make me think you can start a toon that does VERY will in a frig, out of the gate.
inactivity? so, it's better to grind to lvl 80, then grind faction with a dozen groups, then grind crafting skills for cooking, first aid, fishing plus two "main profession" skills, then grind pvp for honor for the pvp purples, then grind dungeon after dungeon 50 times over so everyone in your team can get that tier of gear, and then you go to the next dungeon, rinse and repeat.
vs. being able to join in on faction warfare pvp the first day of your play?
really?
seriously?
I'm not endorsing WoW in any way here, but I'd just like to point out that it's a preference thing. Some people want to control the pace of their skill leveling, and some like EvE's approach. Also, you don't normally repeat quests in WoW with the same character. Finally, you CAN do all of your above mentioned activities in WoW, but they aren't required to enjoy the game.
Oh, and what completely new player would want, or could afford, to start FW and sign off frigs to the trash pile on their first day?
Again, I'm not endorsing WoW, but simply putting forth a few educated opinions.
um, you don't repeat up to 25 daily quests every day in wow?
preference is one thing, but how does preference fit in with "When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game." ? plus i was mentioning how you can start off in eve, relatively higher, than you could possibly begin in wow.
if you're not doing all those things in wow; then, what are you doing? you can only explore so much. repeating dungeons (whether raid or not), is still grinding one or more of the things i mentioned.
'"No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does." << that also does not seem to apply to controlling the speed at which you can skill/level?
i think i was comparing joining FW on the first day, vs having to wait months to do things in wow. but um, since you bring it up... lvl 1 combat missions pay pretty well. and the point is that you CAN join in on "level appropriate" pvp the first day in eve.
i understand you're not supporting wow; but, i'm not seeing where your points were in reply to my points.
I wouldn't know the specifics about dailies in WoW. If it had held my interest until the level cap, I certainly wouldn't stick around just to keep repeating daily quests. I was mainly interested in exploring all the dungeons, and I did quite a few before the childish difficulty level of the whole game turned me off.
Yeah, I didn't see the trial part, I know skills train pretty quickly at first, but I still feel it's a preference. Sure, you start with a larger variety of skills than WoW, but a dedicated player can max his character much faster in WoW versus using implants in EvE; it just depends on whether or not you like one system or the other.
Totally agree on the FW part; I'm sure you know the futility of even trying to hit a lvl 80 char with anything even 10 levels below it in world pvp, but a frig can still hit a ship regardless of the other pilot's skills. Still, it doesn't take months to be able to participate in WoW pvp.
Yeah, he hit this game dead on. Seriously, this game baffles me beyond belief. When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game. No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does.
Sorry this is old post but i just could not have kept myself from commenting on it.... lol hahahaha omg ... He said.....lol......... waiting offline= inactivity.... lol..hahah man.. go to the store, do your homework, laundry... help your mom to cook dinner... do something!! dont be inactive!! lol hahahahh you need to be forbidden to play on the computer by federal judge! hahahahahahahahhaha
The vid was funny as hell and actually as as the OP put it. "My opinion of EVE after playing for 4 years" .
But I dare say not just his opinion but anyones who after 3-4 years looks back and relizes they have paid to work a second job.
those of you that are still in the hunnymoon (1-3 years) enjoy the game.
Those of you that the hunnymoon is ending, watch the video again but first put aside that he is telling you that your wife is fat and getting ugly, she is. Once you get over the instinct to defender her you will relize that that the video review was dead on, well it was saterized for your protection first.
Keep in mind that it is like trying to explain fly-fishing to some one whos idea of fun is jumping out of an airplane, over the desert, with a snowboard strapped to their feet and then telling them that catching a fish is not the goal (it's a cookie but not why your fishing).
The guy a ZP is satirist and while he may point out some truths he does so in over the top and extreme manner designed to get laughs more so then to honestly give a in depth review. If someone takes what he has to say seriously as a MMORPG player then they are a STUPID person period end of story. The guy at ZP even admits in previous MMO reviews that he hates the genre and really can't bare to play any MMORPG. So take his so called 2 week review with a grain of salt. Oh and if this is truly the OP's point of view after player for 4 years then he must have an IQ below 70. Why would you play something that you did not enjoy?
PS - What MMO are you guys who hate EVE playing? Please do tell what awesome MMO you are playing so that we may have a chance to try it out and give our opinions.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
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you're kidding right? only your mouse?
Guess you don't use function keys or keyboard shortcuts?
or the alt key to target without that right click menu?
If played right Eve uses the keyboard just as much as anyother mmo.
You show me a pilot that uses his mouse 100% of the time and I'll show you that same pilot in a pod.
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PLaying: EvE, Ryzom
Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum
Well said.
Most things i do in eve require your hand covering at least ctrl, f1-f4, f5-f8, all numbers for quick orbit adjustments, alt, then the many shortcuts for drones, broadcasts and other ship functions..
Sure, you can play with your mouse only, just as you can use most "user friendly" os guis with only a mouse..but to really do something, you need to know shortcuts and how to use a keyboard efficiently.
This is what happens when you get a WoW Spoon fed Moron to try EVE...
if you play eve like it's one of the cookie cutter easy mode mmos -- of course you won't enjoy it, nor "get it".
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
when you read posts like this, it's incredibly hard to not reply with a "sorry you can't read" attitude.
what exactly is it that required you to spend "more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game"? aren't you able to build a toon that pretty much starts in a cruiser nowadays? that would make me think you can start a toon that does VERY will in a frig, out of the gate.
inactivity? so, it's better to grind to lvl 80, then grind faction with a dozen groups, then grind crafting skills for cooking, first aid, fishing plus two "main profession" skills, then grind pvp for honor for the pvp purples, then grind dungeon after dungeon 50 times over so everyone in your team can get that tier of gear, and then you go to the next dungeon, rinse and repeat.
vs. being able to join in on faction warfare pvp the first day of your play?
really?
seriously?
I'm not endorsing WoW in any way here, but I'd just like to point out that it's a preference thing. Some people want to control the pace of their skill leveling, and some like EvE's approach. Also, you don't normally repeat quests in WoW with the same character. Finally, you CAN do all of your above mentioned activities in WoW, but they aren't required to enjoy the game.
Oh, and what completely new player would want, or could afford, to start FW and sign off frigs to the trash pile on their first day?
Again, I'm not endorsing WoW, but simply putting forth a few educated opinions.
when you read posts like this, it's incredibly hard to not reply with a "sorry you can't read" attitude.
what exactly is it that required you to spend "more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game"? aren't you able to build a toon that pretty much starts in a cruiser nowadays? that would make me think you can start a toon that does VERY will in a frig, out of the gate.
inactivity? so, it's better to grind to lvl 80, then grind faction with a dozen groups, then grind crafting skills for cooking, first aid, fishing plus two "main profession" skills, then grind pvp for honor for the pvp purples, then grind dungeon after dungeon 50 times over so everyone in your team can get that tier of gear, and then you go to the next dungeon, rinse and repeat.
vs. being able to join in on faction warfare pvp the first day of your play?
really?
seriously?
I'm not endorsing WoW in any way here, but I'd just like to point out that it's a preference thing. Some people want to control the pace of their skill leveling, and some like EvE's approach. Also, you don't normally repeat quests in WoW with the same character. Finally, you CAN do all of your above mentioned activities in WoW, but they aren't required to enjoy the game.
Oh, and what completely new player would want, or could afford, to start FW and sign off frigs to the trash pile on their first day?
Again, I'm not endorsing WoW, but simply putting forth a few educated opinions.
um, you don't repeat up to 25 daily quests every day in wow?
preference is one thing, but how does preference fit in with "When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game." ? plus i was mentioning how you can start off in eve, relatively higher, than you could possibly begin in wow.
if you're not doing all those things in wow; then, what are you doing? you can only explore so much. repeating dungeons (whether raid or not), is still grinding one or more of the things i mentioned.
'"No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does." << that also does not seem to apply to controlling the speed at which you can skill/level?
i think i was comparing joining FW on the first day, vs having to wait months to do things in wow. but um, since you bring it up... lvl 1 combat missions pay pretty well. and the point is that you CAN join in on "level appropriate" pvp the first day in eve.
i understand you're not supporting wow; but, i'm not seeing where your points were in reply to my points.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
so, after watching this video...
i learned that the person talking didn't join a player corporation (nor have any desire to), read absolutely nothing about the game, and honestly, sounds like he didn't even do the tutorial.
in all truth, i'd be surprised if he'd ever logged into the game.
honestly, either way, the video does sound like someone that's one of those two categories, and if you played for 4 years and that's the impression/feeling you have of eve, well, i'd have to remind you that time in a game doesn't equate to experience or being good at said game.
if he was trying to be funny, i didn't get that either, he really just sounded upset that he was wrong about all games being wow-wannabes (even games that predated wow which wow copied from...), and that people emailed/messaged him about eve.
perhaps he found an old box from eve and he just did his review based on that?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
when you read posts like this, it's incredibly hard to not reply with a "sorry you can't read" attitude.
what exactly is it that required you to spend "more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game"? aren't you able to build a toon that pretty much starts in a cruiser nowadays? that would make me think you can start a toon that does VERY will in a frig, out of the gate.
inactivity? so, it's better to grind to lvl 80, then grind faction with a dozen groups, then grind crafting skills for cooking, first aid, fishing plus two "main profession" skills, then grind pvp for honor for the pvp purples, then grind dungeon after dungeon 50 times over so everyone in your team can get that tier of gear, and then you go to the next dungeon, rinse and repeat.
vs. being able to join in on faction warfare pvp the first day of your play?
really?
seriously?
I'm not endorsing WoW in any way here, but I'd just like to point out that it's a preference thing. Some people want to control the pace of their skill leveling, and some like EvE's approach. Also, you don't normally repeat quests in WoW with the same character. Finally, you CAN do all of your above mentioned activities in WoW, but they aren't required to enjoy the game.
Oh, and what completely new player would want, or could afford, to start FW and sign off frigs to the trash pile on their first day?
Again, I'm not endorsing WoW, but simply putting forth a few educated opinions.
um, you don't repeat up to 25 daily quests every day in wow?
preference is one thing, but how does preference fit in with "When I played the free trial, I spend more time waiting offline for skills to level up than actually playing the game." ? plus i was mentioning how you can start off in eve, relatively higher, than you could possibly begin in wow.
if you're not doing all those things in wow; then, what are you doing? you can only explore so much. repeating dungeons (whether raid or not), is still grinding one or more of the things i mentioned.
'"No game should reward players for their inactivity, at least not as much as this game does." << that also does not seem to apply to controlling the speed at which you can skill/level?
i think i was comparing joining FW on the first day, vs having to wait months to do things in wow. but um, since you bring it up... lvl 1 combat missions pay pretty well. and the point is that you CAN join in on "level appropriate" pvp the first day in eve.
i understand you're not supporting wow; but, i'm not seeing where your points were in reply to my points.
I wouldn't know the specifics about dailies in WoW. If it had held my interest until the level cap, I certainly wouldn't stick around just to keep repeating daily quests. I was mainly interested in exploring all the dungeons, and I did quite a few before the childish difficulty level of the whole game turned me off.
Yeah, I didn't see the trial part, I know skills train pretty quickly at first, but I still feel it's a preference. Sure, you start with a larger variety of skills than WoW, but a dedicated player can max his character much faster in WoW versus using implants in EvE; it just depends on whether or not you like one system or the other.
Totally agree on the FW part; I'm sure you know the futility of even trying to hit a lvl 80 char with anything even 10 levels below it in world pvp, but a frig can still hit a ship regardless of the other pilot's skills. Still, it doesn't take months to be able to participate in WoW pvp.
Sorry this is old post but i just could not have kept myself from commenting on it.... lol hahahaha omg ... He said.....lol......... waiting offline= inactivity.... lol..hahah man.. go to the store, do your homework, laundry... help your mom to cook dinner... do something!! dont be inactive!! lol hahahahh you need to be forbidden to play on the computer by federal judge! hahahahahahahahhaha
ROFL....
The vid was funny as hell and actually as as the OP put it. "My opinion of EVE after playing for 4 years" .
But I dare say not just his opinion but anyones who after 3-4 years looks back and relizes they have paid to work a second job.
those of you that are still in the hunnymoon (1-3 years) enjoy the game.
Those of you that the hunnymoon is ending, watch the video again but first put aside that he is telling you that your wife is fat and getting ugly, she is. Once you get over the instinct to defender her you will relize that that the video review was dead on, well it was saterized for your protection first.
Keep in mind that it is like trying to explain fly-fishing to some one whos idea of fun is jumping out of an airplane, over the desert, with a snowboard strapped to their feet and then telling them that catching a fish is not the goal (it's a cookie but not why your fishing).
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The guy a ZP is satirist and while he may point out some truths he does so in over the top and extreme manner designed to get laughs more so then to honestly give a in depth review. If someone takes what he has to say seriously as a MMORPG player then they are a STUPID person period end of story. The guy at ZP even admits in previous MMO reviews that he hates the genre and really can't bare to play any MMORPG. So take his so called 2 week review with a grain of salt. Oh and if this is truly the OP's point of view after player for 4 years then he must have an IQ below 70. Why would you play something that you did not enjoy?
PS - What MMO are you guys who hate EVE playing? Please do tell what awesome MMO you are playing so that we may have a chance to try it out and give our opinions.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)