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If you don't pre-order, no open beta or release for you
Tasos really chose his words carefully. If you don't pre-order, you're out of luck, no open beta or release for you.
The pre-orders will get priority for early access to the game.
Early access means open beta. Want to ensure your spot in the limited number of available slots on the server, then pre-order.
We need more playtesting data on several features we havent had much chance to test externally.
help us stress test our servers and test the final features of the game
This "trial" is simply an extension of the closed beta. There will be no NDA lift, because they are still testing features, adding in new features, patching, etc. Many features will no doubt still be broken, bugged, so there's no way they lift the NDA. Most people will not be able to try the game out and there will not be any reviews out before the pre-orders begin in mid-february.
The pre-orders will also get priority for the game launch if we have to go to a staged release. Well go to a staged release only in the case we have more demand than we can handle properly, and until we can upgrade our capacity. The pre-orders are necessary so that we can have some measure of the demand.
Not only are they hinting, he's flat out saying they don't have the capacity to handle anyone who wants to play at release. Even if you were cautious gamer who wanted to wait to hear if the game was any good from those in the limited open beta (early access) directly prior to release, you won't be able to play because you didn't pre-order...
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Early access means open beta. Want to ensure your spot in the limited number of available slots on the server, then pre-order.
hah, wow, can you twist around those words anymore? Keep it up, your doing a swell job
or, my prefered option: dont pre order, wait for reviews and first impressions come in, because lets face it, this game is going to be pretty bad in all likelyhood. judging by past performace anyhow.
I'm not worried, the white border has shown us the light.
"Light be with you all my brothers"...
edit: just read in another post about the delay, and them letting in "thousands" of people to try the game before they buy
Early access means open beta. Want to ensure your spot in the limited number of available slots on the server, then pre-order.
This "trial" is simply an extension of the closed beta. There will be no NDA lift, because they are still testing features, adding in new features, patching, etc. Many features will no doubt still be broken, bugged, so there's no way they lift the NDA. Most people will not be able to try the game out and there will not be any reviews out before the pre-orders begin in mid-february.
Not only are they hinting, he's flat out saying they don't have the capacity to handle anyone who wants to play at release. Even if you were cautious gamer who wanted to wait to hear if the game was any good from those in the limited open beta (early access) directly prior to release, you won't be able to play because you didn't pre-order...
free trial starts on 22nd january pre-order on 15th of february so you fail.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Early access means open beta. Want to ensure your spot in the limited number of available slots on the server, then pre-order.
This "trial" is simply an extension of the closed beta. There will be no NDA lift, because they are still testing features, adding in new features, patching, etc. Many features will no doubt still be broken, bugged, so there's no way they lift the NDA. Most people will not be able to try the game out and there will not be any reviews out before the pre-orders begin in mid-february.
Not only are they hinting, he's flat out saying they don't have the capacity to handle anyone who wants to play at release. Even if you were cautious gamer who wanted to wait to hear if the game was any good from those in the limited open beta (early access) directly prior to release, you won't be able to play because you didn't pre-order...
free trial starts on 22nd january pre-order on 15th of february so you fail.
Either you can't comprehend english, or you just didn't read the post at all.
It's not a free trial when the game is still being tested and features are still be added. READ THE POST. He explicitly says they still need much testing and some features have yet to even be tested. They're only letting in a minimal amount of people anyways.
You fail hard.
Sounds exactly like the stuff Funcom pulled out with AoC. I smelled something fishy then and still took the bait. Can't fool me anymore.
well i guess we need to wait and see how this "open beta' works. But the phrasing really just sounds to me like the people that pre order will have priority over people that didnt pre order, but there will still be plenty of non-preorders getting into the open beta.
Dunno, I am skeptical. Seems like Tasos could let in 5 thousand and have "thousands" of players in closed beta. So basically almost all others would have to pay to play the beta.
Sorry, but you are wrong.
"Pre orders in no way affect your chances of anything besides getting into the launch of the game. That means not beta."
Hmmm... you of all people, how could you forget WAR? What do you think one of the main selling points of both the CE and SE versions were? Good one, there goes your credibility.
WAR PRE-ORDER BENEFITS INCLUDE:
OPEN BETA ACCESS
He NEVER specified what "early access" meant in his post. The whole thing was VERY vague and open to interpretation. Don't assume you know what he meant, because we both don't. Your guess is as good as mine.
He purposely notes pre-ordering gives you two perks, as if they are two separate unrelated events. Except, in your mind, early access is directly related to the game launch because you think its a headstart. Then why differentiate between them? Early access does not mean headstart. It means that you get PRIORITY of acessing the open/closed beta early before a limited amount of people who signed up get in without pre-ordering.
If he meant headstart, he would have used that term, and its pretty unviversally understood.
He purposely notes pre-ordering gives you two perks, as if they are two separate unrelated events. Except, in your mind, early access is directly related to the game launch because you think its a headstart. Then why differentiate between them? Early access does not mean headstart. It means that you get PRIORITY of acessing the open/closed beta early before a limited amount of people who signed up get in without pre-ordering.
If he meant headstart, he would have used that term, and its pretty unviversally understood.
I would say the real game starts when character wipes stop happening.
crosses fingers and hopes I get to test the game. There are more reasons to believe the game is real now then a year a go, and each week it getting more and more real. Thats all i care about.
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Warhammer - Xpiher
Won't affect who gets into the free trial, just who gets on the first servers after release.
Indeed, like tonnes of other games have done and are planning on doing. Note the use of 'also' implying that preorders will get both access early to the game (perhaps a headstart, or more likely, beta) AND priority during a staged release, AS THEY RIGHTFULLY SHOULD.
Early access means open beta. Probably. Want to ensure your spot in the limited number of available slots on the server, then pre-order. Yep, sounds pretty good to me.
This "trial" is simply an extension of the closed beta. There will be no NDA lift
Thanks so much for your insight. Aren't you breaking the NDA in telling us that? Because I assume the only way you know is to be part of the current beta crew who have been told such details?
, because they are still testing features, adding in new features, patching, etc. Many features will no doubt still be broken, bugged, so there's no way they lift the NDA. Most people will not be able to try the game out and there will not be any reviews out before the pre-orders begin in mid-february.
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So in order, let's break this down. Green is good. Red is you breaking your NDA again, it would seem! I'm glad you know they've still got stuff to add, and that some features are broken. That's exactly the kinda stuff I've been waiting for leaks from beta testers, such as yourself, on. The final red point, as well as the blue, is some of the most laughable stuff I've heard in the MMO community. Since when did the NDA become this giant guillotine over the heads of anyone with information? Even if they've got it so watertight with a few beta testers atm, if they fully stress test (at least 10k players), you can guarantuee one of them will leak what's going on. Calm the fuck down.
Not only are they hinting, he's flat out saying they don't have the capacity to handle anyone who wants to play at release. Even if you were cautious gamer who wanted to wait to hear if the game was any good from those in the limited open beta (early access) directly prior to release, you won't be able to play because you didn't pre-order...
Okay gang, we've got a new colour! ^^ Purple means you're contradicting yourself, and failing to emphasise your point thus. They are absolutely flatout saying that, because the game has become 6 times more popular (on paper alone!!) than they wanted it to be on release. You don't just blanket bomb server capacity and say "okay, well we want 50,000 players, so we'll cater for a million", you say "okay, well we want 50,000 players, so we'll cater for 100,000 incase each one brings a friend" AT BEST. They're looking at a minimum of 300,000. That's a lot a lot of blades to procure.
As to your last sentence, I'm glad you know what's going on better than everyone else, and that you'd care to enlighten us. Seriously. Stop treating baseless assumptions as facts. Also, unless you beta testers know, we still don't even know how the release will go, whether it will be as popular as it should, whether it will be staggered, or anything else. Pre-ordering is ALWAYS a gamble, that's one of the reasons it's cheaper. If you're that nervous, just don't buy it until a week in. Simple.
I have a guess as to how the release will go. Based on the amount of hype this game has, and the lacking server capacity of this new greek company, the demand for pre-ordering will be too great and will exceed their available slots for the initial release. Hence, this is why they're preparing us that will likely be a staged release. You're full of shit if you think "oh just buy the game a week after release". Well guess what braniac, if the servers are full and pre-ordering is closed, you won't be able to play the game or buy it, and who knows how long until they add more servers if they're low on funds.
Also, are you stupid? Since when is pre-ordering always cheaper? You still have to pay the full price... and this game WONT be sold at your local bestbuy or gamestop, so you'll be paying the FULL price online for the digital download. You're not gonna be putting 5 or 10 bucks down kid.
free trial starts on 22nd january pre-order on 15th of february so you fail.
Either you can't comprehend english, or you just didn't read the post at all.
It's not a free trial when the game is still being tested and features are still be added. READ THE POST. He explicitly says they still need much testing and some features have yet to even be tested. They're only letting in a minimal amount of people anyways.
You fail hard.
"Starting on January 22nd there will be a Darkfall trial with the distribution of the release candidate client allowing thousands of players to sample the game for free, help us stress test our servers and test the final features of the game."
Um...trial is with a release candidate, that is very close to gold. All the features are in the code and will be tested. Thus no new features to be added.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
I will never, ever, ever, ever pre-order another single game. EVER. Okay, maybe that's a bit too extreme....I might make rare exceptions, IF I have gotten to try the game previous to "pre-ordering" it.
You know, I have pre-ordered games in the past and been pleasantly surprised when I actually LOVED the games and continued playing them for years. But with my last pre-order, I was so utterly disappointed, that I swore to myself....never again. You guessed it....that was WAR. I was pretty offended that it seemed, essentially, like they were charging people to get into an open beta, but I bit my tongue and pre-ordered anyway, assuming that I was probably really going to love the game and stay with it for a long long time, so what difference did it really make?
I continued to play for the first month that came with my pre-order, basically, just to keep from feeling like I totally wasted 50 bucks, because honestly, I knew pretty quickly (by rank 21, I was completely convinced), that the game wasn't going to be the one for ME. The "flavor" of the game, just left me wanting. It just lacked some charisma that I expect from mmoRPGs.
NOW.....if that had been a FREE OPEN BETA (how an open beta or trial SHOULD be) I wouldn't have lost money just to find out I didn't like the game. THIS would have kept me from having bitter feelings toward Mythic, and a bit of anger at MYSELF for falling for the "pay to try" thing, and being too impatient to WAIT to try the game. Yup....mostly MY fault. I tried convincing myself that it really was part of the "beta process" and that I should just continue with that in mind and continue to file bug reports, etc...which I did....all the while a bit pissed that I had to PAY for the "privilege" of doing so.
Nonetheless.....PAYING for what is basically a TRIAL (beta testing happens in closed betas, not open betas, and companies know that by now)....nope, I'm not PAYING full price to TRY games ever again.
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Good for you, I agree with you completely. In the case of DF, you are paying early (preorder) to get into the game early.
In fact you cannot preorder the game until mid february, the trial has already been going on about a month by then. If you don't get into trial or the NDA has been dropped by the time the preorder, DO NOT PREORDER. You will not fall far behind in the game by waiting a few weeks either.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
He never specified what exactly "early access" meant. Yes it means getting into the game early, but that could very well mean open beta. That's the same gimmick associated with Warhammer, pre-order to get access to open beta. DF could have the same exact ploy.
Geekgirl, same thing happened to me. I pre-ordered warhammer, wasted the money on the CE
, and the game was terribly disappointing and I could not see myself playing it past the free month. I stopped at lvl 31 from boredom.
I can't see what all the complaining is about, it seems clear to me.
*If you get into the trial and like the game and have confidence that it will launch ok then you are safe to preorder.
*If you don't get into the trial then don't preorder, buy the game at launch or when more servers come online if it's sold out.
*If the game looks crap or you don't have enough information then don't buy it.
Whats so hard about that?
noo there doing abig stress test meaning 20-40k
He never specified what exactly "early access" meant. Yes it means getting into the game early, but that could very well mean open beta. That's the same gimmick associated with Warhammer, pre-order to get access to open beta. DF could have the same exact ploy.
Geekgirl, same thing happened to me. I pre-ordered warhammer, wasted the money on the CE
, and the game was terribly disappointing and I could not see myself playing it past the free month. I stopped at lvl 31 from boredom.
"A pre-order will be made available mid-February. The pre-orders will get priority for early access to the game. The pre-orders will also get priority for the game launch if we have to go to a staged release."
What other meaning could "early access have" than to the game ? What would be the point of getting access to trial, if it is almost over ?.
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And when we got more women on the team, it was like No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.
John Smedley, SOE
noo there doing abig stress test meaning 20-40k
And there is a quote to that effect... right?
Cause you're not doing so well with your predictions.
noo there doing abig stress test meaning 20-40k
And there is a quote to that effect... right?
Cause you're not doing so well with your predictions.
He's right, its probebly going to be super massive big, think about it, public beta was in the hundreds, so we are talking at least a thousand maybe even a few thousand.
noo there doing abig stress test meaning 20-40k
And there is a quote to that effect... right?
Cause you're not doing so well with your predictions.
sow hat there isnt nay pre orders before the 22nd is there so ha : ) never said i was right about everything