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I was under the impression there was going to be some form of henchmen or hireling though...
Pfff what nonsence. Give me a dragon! Or a Rancor! And then, we have a deal
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
They want you to play for yourself, no pet to play for you.
really?
Probably it's because they have no idea how to do it, like they don't know how to make tanks with wheels behave well and make them hover over the ground.
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I was under the impression there was going to be some form of henchmen or hireling though...
That is such a cheesy aspect in any MMOG. Hiring a NPC to avoid grouping defeats the point. Either solo or group. I solo mostly and soloing means relying on the skills and abilities of a single character.
Clans of players can install guard towers to protect their cities but I don't believe NPCs are hireable for that purpose either.
No pets in DarkFall because the devs dont want some random noob bot hunting you down all over the whole world.
Hardly. It's because they probably just don't know how to make pets. Or are incapable of implementing them properly
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
No pets in DarkFall because the devs dont want some random noob bot hunting you down all over the whole world.
Hardly. It's because they probably just don't know how to make pets. Or are incapable of implementing them properly
I always was under the assumption based on Aventurine'sTasos' past interviews that this would be a pvp game that would allow for the user's personal gameplaying skills. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a pet system (and I guess if implemented in DF, would mean some "summoner-type skill tree(s)) in Darkfall be counter-intuitive to what Aventurine's goals were for this game to begin with?
Your quote, "... incapable of implementing them properly." I would say contradictory of Darkfalls essential pvp environment goals.
Face it, a pet system means A.I. controlled system vs. a players personal gameplay skills.
I was under the impression there was going to be some form of henchmen or hireling though...
That is such a cheesy aspect in any MMOG. Hiring a NPC to avoid grouping defeats the point. Either solo or group. I solo mostly and soloing means relying on the skills and abilities of a single character.
Clans of players can install guard towers to protect their cities but I don't believe NPCs are hireable for that purpose either.
I never said it wasn't cheesy and I personally don't really care for it too much. The information on hirelings is under the gameplay section of the Darkfall website, I don't know if it's still accurate now though :
They want you to play for yourself, no pet to play for you.
really?
Probably it's because they have no idea how to do it, like they don't know how to make tanks with wheels behave well and make them hover over the ground.
probably because they want the game to be based on skills, not how good pet you can summon.
No pets in DarkFall because the devs dont want some random noob bot hunting you down all over the whole world.
Hardly. It's because they probably just don't know how to make pets. Or are incapable of implementing them properly
LOL no pokemon here.
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Its probably because they don't know how to implement them and keep the game fairly balanced. Adding a pet to normal players would guarantee the player with pets a win in a 1 vs 1 fight unless you make the pets completely useless. The only other way is to force some kind of damage reduction on the player summoning the pet, which would basically make them a " pet class ". Granted that may not be such a bad idea, since they chose to summon the pet in the first place. I doubt they would have time to implement a pet raising system at this point, since the current game needs work before it is released.
Player support for certain game mechanics seem to be in some quantum state of uncertainty which is determined by whether it currently exists in the game.
Pets are out? Well that's good because ahhh... pets are for the unskilled anyway!
I for one am disapointed that there will not be pets.
It has nothing to do with being an unskilled player either.
It just makes me feel immersed with the environment when I can domesticate the environment.
Ive never played a game where it made you uber powerful to be a pet handler either. Not in UO, old school SWG.
More often than not a well rounded character would beat a creature/pet handler more often than not due to the required skills/work that must go into making a creature worthwhile. Plus they are so slow so if you cant get away from one ... you are the unskilled one.
I for one am disapointed that there will not be pets. It has nothing to do with being an unskilled player either. It just makes me feel immersed with the environment when I can domesticate the environment. Ive never played a game where it made you uber powerful to be a pet handler either. Not in UO, old school SWG. More often than not a well rounded character would beat a creature/pet handler more often than not due to the required skills/work that must go into making a creature worthwhile. Plus they are so slow so if you cant get away from one ... you are the unskilled one.
Your quote: "I've never played a game where it made you uber powerful to be a pet handler... " You're lucky you've never played Hellgate. On 1v1 pvp, with a Summoner "Warper" build the match usually lasts 1 to 2 seconds from onset (and that's against any class). And all you need is armor that have stat values that equal your attacks with bonuses of 100% Shield Pen. In that case your "Warper" pet can One-hit kill any class regardless of armor and hp. Needless to say, in Hellgate most people tend to decline againts going up against a Summoner "Warper" build... unless they're another Summoner "Warper" build.
I always was under the assumption based on Aventurine'sTasos' past interviews that this would be a pvp game that would allow for the user's personal gameplaying skills. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a pet system (and I guess if implemented in DF, would mean some "summoner-type skill tree(s)) in Darkfall be counter-intuitive to what Aventurine's goals were for this game to begin with? Your quote, "... incapable of implementing them properly." I would say contradictory of Darkfalls essential pvp environment goals. Face it, a pet system means A.I. controlled system vs. a players personal gameplay skills.
Ehh... no.
It depends on how it's done. Look at Guild Wars, you control your pets every move. It's just as playing your character only you have an extention of yourself to work with and that needs protection/planning.
Don't defend the case of no pets, it's just lame they can't add them. Maby in the future, but right now it feels very lame not being able to raise minions or have a pet to work with! It takes from the flavor of the game to many.
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I really don't think this engine can support pets. IMO
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I really don't think this engine can support pets. IMO
Why not?
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No pets in Darkfall.
Pet system was removed awhile ago.
Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV
okay thx
how lame
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
They want you to play for yourself, no pet to play for you.
really?
I was under the impression there was going to be some form of henchmen or hireling though...
Pfff what nonsence. Give me a dragon! Or a Rancor! And then, we have a deal
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
really?
Probably it's because they have no idea how to do it, like they don't know how to make tanks with wheels behave well and make them hover over the ground.
so were "prestige classes"... which are listed on the official features page:
http://www.darkfallonline.com/faq/characters.html
What's there, and what's not, and what's "turned off for now"... that's all a big mystery!
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
That is such a cheesy aspect in any MMOG. Hiring a NPC to avoid grouping defeats the point. Either solo or group. I solo mostly and soloing means relying on the skills and abilities of a single character.
Clans of players can install guard towers to protect their cities but I don't believe NPCs are hireable for that purpose either.
No pets in DarkFall because the devs dont want some random noob bot hunting you down all over the whole world.
Hardly. It's because they probably just don't know how to make pets. Or are incapable of implementing them properly
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Hardly. It's because they probably just don't know how to make pets. Or are incapable of implementing them properly
I always was under the assumption based on Aventurine'sTasos' past interviews that this would be a pvp game that would allow for the user's personal gameplaying skills. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a pet system (and I guess if implemented in DF, would mean some "summoner-type skill tree(s)) in Darkfall be counter-intuitive to what Aventurine's goals were for this game to begin with?
Your quote, "... incapable of implementing them properly." I would say contradictory of Darkfalls essential pvp environment goals.
Face it, a pet system means A.I. controlled system vs. a players personal gameplay skills.
That is such a cheesy aspect in any MMOG. Hiring a NPC to avoid grouping defeats the point. Either solo or group. I solo mostly and soloing means relying on the skills and abilities of a single character.
Clans of players can install guard towers to protect their cities but I don't believe NPCs are hireable for that purpose either.
I never said it wasn't cheesy and I personally don't really care for it too much. The information on hirelings is under the gameplay section of the Darkfall website, I don't know if it's still accurate now though :
www.darkfallonline.com/faq/gameplay.html
Again, take the info as you wish. Merely stating that the idea of hireling/henchmen has been metioned by Aventurine.
so were "prestige classes"... which are listed on the official features page:
http://www.darkfallonline.com/faq/characters.html
What's there, and what's not, and what's "turned off for now"... that's all a big mystery!
no! Prestige classes will be added after release. Try to follow what happends on the forumfall
really?
Probably it's because they have no idea how to do it, like they don't know how to make tanks with wheels behave well and make them hover over the ground.
probably because they want the game to be based on skills, not how good pet you can summon.
Hardly. It's because they probably just don't know how to make pets. Or are incapable of implementing them properly
LOL no pokemon here.
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Its probably because they don't know how to implement them and keep the game fairly balanced. Adding a pet to normal players would guarantee the player with pets a win in a 1 vs 1 fight unless you make the pets completely useless. The only other way is to force some kind of damage reduction on the player summoning the pet, which would basically make them a " pet class ". Granted that may not be such a bad idea, since they chose to summon the pet in the first place. I doubt they would have time to implement a pet raising system at this point, since the current game needs work before it is released.
Player support for certain game mechanics seem to be in some quantum state of uncertainty which is determined by whether it currently exists in the game.
Pets are out? Well that's good because ahhh... pets are for the unskilled anyway!
I for one am disapointed that there will not be pets.
It has nothing to do with being an unskilled player either.
It just makes me feel immersed with the environment when I can domesticate the environment.
Ive never played a game where it made you uber powerful to be a pet handler either. Not in UO, old school SWG.
More often than not a well rounded character would beat a creature/pet handler more often than not due to the required skills/work that must go into making a creature worthwhile. Plus they are so slow so if you cant get away from one ... you are the unskilled one.
Your quote: "I've never played a game where it made you uber powerful to be a pet handler... " You're lucky you've never played Hellgate. On 1v1 pvp, with a Summoner "Warper" build the match usually lasts 1 to 2 seconds from onset (and that's against any class). And all you need is armor that have stat values that equal your attacks with bonuses of 100% Shield Pen. In that case your "Warper" pet can One-hit kill any class regardless of armor and hp. Needless to say, in Hellgate most people tend to decline againts going up against a Summoner "Warper" build... unless they're another Summoner "Warper" build.
Ehh... no.
It depends on how it's done. Look at Guild Wars, you control your pets every move. It's just as playing your character only you have an extention of yourself to work with and that needs protection/planning.
Don't defend the case of no pets, it's just lame they can't add them. Maby in the future, but right now it feels very lame not being able to raise minions or have a pet to work with! It takes from the flavor of the game to many.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I really don't think this engine can support pets. IMO
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Why not?
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "