oh theres a forum thread on jedi not being a starting prof.
when obv will like it or not this aint swg mfs
Dean says:
thats good that means u will have 2 earn it
it was main **** up of nge was making jedi a playerble class
Sam... says:
yeah this game KOTOR is about being a jedi, doing the training in an academy living like a jedi embracing the game like that, and dean this is tor not swg. its bioware not soe
i know swg is your heart an soul but u gotta come around that an see tor for what it is, its starwars but its a different gamerestpect it for wat it is
Well your post sounds a little hash on the retared part (you might want to change that). But I too think it should be a unlockable class. It would fit the storyline a lot better. Altho there were many jedi's in the old days.... still you had to have the gift and it was an extensive and very long hard training to even become a jedi... many even fail the trials.
But then again... it ain't gonna happen. The game is based on KOTR game series, so they want you to be Jedi from the get go. Add to that, that the game will be very linear, restrictive, almost pure solo focussed with very little group oriented content, no real crafting and very instanced (due to story progress)... ... it will become more like a Single player Online RPG game with a chatbox slapped on top of it. So I have basically already given up on waiting for a good SW MMO to ever come out.
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Personaly i think you should beable to start off as a jedi. but when it comes down to it you should be like a padawan or whatever up to a certain level if they have levels in the game or to beable to become an actual jedi to say your skills will have to be at a certain point. and then from that to become a jedi knight should under go specific training and hardship. since a player really can go either way sith or jedi from what he does in the game by doing good things or bad things. to beable to uphold being a jedi knight should be by upholding a high enough amount of good vice versa for a sith. that way there still is going to be people running around with lightsabres and what not but to become a true jedi or sith will take some time and effort. anyways thats just what i think havnt really read much about the game since all the information is just being released, will look more into it a little bit more down the road.
I would really like this MMO to follow its single player concepts. i mean, playing a normal soldier for so long in the first Kotor, then becoming the jedi made that game alot more exciting then having a force bar from the start in Kotor 2.
I hope they ignore some of you people and keep doing what they're doing. Jedi/Sith will be fresh out the gates IMO, The ones that want it to be unlock okay sure I can see your point but I also disagree with you 100% someone has already said this isn't the empire vs rebels this is the sith/jedi <----I hope theirs a lot running around thats the point. The game is meant to give what many classic star wars fans/gamers want to be a jedi. Those of you that want it to be unlockable let me guess you worked your tail off like I did with holo's or maybe you did the village in SWG than you got smacked upside the head with the NGE. Sure they took that work aw...well not really. Just face the truth Jedi will be everywhere in this game kids will want to be them, star wars fans that simply want to be a jedi will be, an those that don't won't be. I promise their will be plenty of other people that aren't jedi running around and i'll be proud to say I'm one of those people, but when that day comes when i'm bored and want to roll a new character it might be something else but chances are it will be a Jedi why should I have to bust my ass to just unlock something. I understood that type of unlocking or keying in games like EQ and even SWG but the fact of unlocking a character seems bogus it creates elitlist in a game an it being an unlock will have those that do unlock it demanding a advantage over those that haven't (thus the old problem with SWG) so *end rant* ......so for all things fair stop with this unlockable junk equality is best in a game even if their are billions of glow sticks running around. I just hope their not all blue and red ( I honestly prefer Orange.)
I hope they ignore some of you people and keep doing what they're doing. Jedi/Sith will be fresh out the gates IMO, The ones that want it to be unlock okay sure I can see your point but I also disagree with you 100% someone has already said this isn't the empire vs rebels this is the sith/jedi <----I hope theirs a lot running around thats the point. The game is meant to give what many classic star wars fans/gamers want to be a jedi. Those of you that want it to be unlockable let me guess you worked your tail off like I did with holo's or maybe you did the village in SWG than you got smacked upside the head with the NGE. Sure they took that work aw...well not really. Just face the truth Jedi will be everywhere in this game kids will want to be them, star wars fans that simply want to be a jedi will be, an those that don't won't be. I promise their will be plenty of other people that aren't jedi running around and i'll be proud to say I'm one of those people, but when that day comes when i'm bored and want to roll a new character it might be something else but chances are it will be a Jedi why should I have to bust my ass to just unlock something. I understood that type of unlocking or keying in games like EQ and even SWG but the fact of unlocking a character seems bogus it creates elitlist in a game an it being an unlock will have those that do unlock it demanding a advantage over those that haven't (thus the old problem with SWG) so *end rant* ......so for all things fair stop with this unlockable junk equality is best in a game even if their are billions of glow sticks running around. I just hope their not all blue and red ( I honestly prefer Orange.)
Well I hope they ignore you, so we're even. But you are completely wrong on one major point. This game isn't Sith vs. Jedi, this is Sith vs. Republic. In this time frame, the Sith aren't just Dark Jedi, they are an entire culture consisting of everything from a standard foot soldier to a Dark Jedi Master. And the same is said about the Republic. The republic consists (MOSTLY) of regular people that have no force abilities at all. The Jedi are just the elite guardians of the Republic. So in a sense, you are shifting the focus of the game to a place it shouldn't be.
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I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games. (Why pay a monthly fee?)
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
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I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
The whole idea of this game is set in a time period within the star wars universe where the jedi and sith are both strong in numbers. that being said it makes sense to have a game where everyone can choose to be a jedi or sith. for those people dont think its a good idea, just dont play as a jedi. this isnt SWG, jedi were every where during this time period.
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
Think
No, "you" think.
If you want someone to clearly understand your point then make your point clear.
Originally posted by GungaDin
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. (fair enough very clear and I respect your preference) Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
?
It "was" better to have them as npc? Well they weren't npc so it must be a statement of preference that is "is" better to have them as an npc.
So that last bit strikes me as you had preferred playing the game without them. Then the red bit leads me to believe you are then saying "Therefore it is better to have them as NPC AND if you want (present tense) to play a Jedi then just go play a single player game"
Therefore I was commenting on what you wrote. Sorry, that seems a bit like calling you out but if you are going to be snarky and say "think" you should remember that that is a two way street.
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I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
Think
No, "you" think.
If you want someone to clearly understand your point then make your point clear.
Originally posted by GungaDin
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. (fair enough very clear and I respect your preference) Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
?
It "was" better to have them as npc? Well they weren't npc so it must be a statement of preference that is "is" better to have them as an npc.
So that last bit strikes me as you had preferred playing the game without them. Then the red bit leads me to believe you are then saying "Therefore it is better to have them as NPC AND if you want (present tense) to play a Jedi then just go play a single player game"
Therefore I was commenting on what you wrote. Sorry, that seems a bit like calling you out but if you are going to be snarky and say "think" you should remember that that is a two way street.
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
Think
No, "you" think.
If you want someone to clearly understand your point then make your point clear.
Originally posted by GungaDin
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. (fair enough very clear and I respect your preference) Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
?
It "was" better to have them as npc? Well they weren't npc so it must be a statement of preference that is "is" better to have them as an npc.
So that last bit strikes me as you had preferred playing the game without them. Then the red bit leads me to believe you are then saying "Therefore it is better to have them as NPC AND if you want (present tense) to play a Jedi then just go play a single player game"
Therefore I was commenting on what you wrote. Sorry, that seems a bit like calling you out but if you are going to be snarky and say "think" you should remember that that is a two way street.
Fair enough
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I hope they ignore some of you people and keep doing what they're doing. Jedi/Sith will be fresh out the gates IMO, The ones that want it to be unlock okay sure I can see your point but I also disagree with you 100% someone has already said this isn't the empire vs rebels this is the sith/jedi <----I hope theirs a lot running around thats the point. The game is meant to give what many classic star wars fans/gamers want to be a jedi. Those of you that want it to be unlockable let me guess you worked your tail off like I did with holo's or maybe you did the village in SWG than you got smacked upside the head with the NGE. Sure they took that work aw...well not really. Just face the truth Jedi will be everywhere in this game kids will want to be them, star wars fans that simply want to be a jedi will be, an those that don't won't be. I promise their will be plenty of other people that aren't jedi running around and i'll be proud to say I'm one of those people, but when that day comes when i'm bored and want to roll a new character it might be something else but chances are it will be a Jedi why should I have to bust my ass to just unlock something. I understood that type of unlocking or keying in games like EQ and even SWG but the fact of unlocking a character seems bogus it creates elitlist in a game an it being an unlock will have those that do unlock it demanding a advantage over those that haven't (thus the old problem with SWG) so *end rant* ......so for all things fair stop with this unlockable junk equality is best in a game even if their are billions of glow sticks running around. I just hope their not all blue and red ( I honestly prefer Orange.)
Well I hope they ignore you, so we're even. But you are completely wrong on one major point. This game isn't Sith vs. Jedi, this is Sith vs. Republic. In this time frame, the Sith aren't just Dark Jedi, they are an entire culture consisting of everything from a standard foot soldier to a Dark Jedi Master. And the same is said about the Republic. The republic consists (MOSTLY) of regular people that have no force abilities at all. The Jedi are just the elite guardians of the Republic. So in a sense, you are shifting the focus of the game to a place it shouldn't be.
Okay i mistyped big deal same concept is at hand so you failed to prove anything to me, the game will be focused around the jedi to a great degree (we even have the light/dark side decisions that are key to the game from knowledge i've at least seen) an this world of a non jedi game you dream of died with SWG before holo-grinding. It's marketing, a game with the star wars name will sell for sure yes based on that but it will also sell on the fact people can play as a jedi an will want to play as a jedi. The most important part of it is that its not the story of revan or the exile etc etc its your character that you progress an to many people that is why they want to play the game. An i'm also glad their making it more friendly for a casual gamer like myself I don't have the thousands of hours like some of you might ( maybe you're one of them since you obvisouly disagree with me), I for one don't have that time on my hands now or in the future, So i'm glad atleast as a company bioware is thinking of everyone not just you hardcore players.
Um, dude... Hate to tell ya, but this is intended to be the sequel of the KOTOR games. Now, what were you in the KOTOR games? If you don't want a game full of jedi, you probably don't want to play this, since it's ABOUT jedi.
Someone gets it, lol this isnt a mmo, its a Jedi rpg.
i think the problem op see is everyone will be jedi because they are overpowered and cool. This i also see as a problem and i'm curious as how bioware will address this.
his solution to the problem is making it non-starte unlockable proffession which i dont agree with. this wont solve the problem, it will prolong the inevitable and with creating ebay market for it. wtb acc with jedi unlocked.
No, it doesn't make sense for a character to simply begin the path of the Jedi after he is already well experienced, but one does not become a Jedi as a toddler, either. I think it would make sense to have a "force sensitive/force user" class at creation, and become Jedi/Sith as a prestiege class.
Personally, I think the Jedi class should be unlockable at mid-level cap, but still in balance with the other classes, but I'm pretty sure that won't happen.
i think the problem op see is everyone will be jedi because they are overpowered and cool. This i also see as a problem and i'm curious as how bioware will address this. his solution to the problem is making it non-starte unlockable proffession which i dont agree with. this wont solve the problem, it will prolong the inevitable and with creating ebay market for it. wtb acc with jedi unlocked.
How about people just wait until information about the other classes is actually released then? I mean...right now people are bashing the game because Jedi/Force users are basically the only classes confirmed and thus, are the only ones we have seen footage of.
It has however been stated that they won't be the only classes in the game. Yet people act as though there won't be anything else to the game.
I am curious about which Star Wars movies the OP watched, but the ones I saw had children in Jedi school from a very young age (4?) If you're going to 'unlock' that, then what's your first quest going to be, not crapping your pants?
Unlockable Jedi was good in SWG, because it made sense that thousands of Jedi weren't running around. But to restrict it, just because you have social problems with people who play Jedi is stupid.
My IQ stays the same no matter what class I role, because in the end I'm still a college educated 28 year old who's been through a lot of shit. I was brought up to treat people with respect and to use good manners. I havne't forgotten those lessons just because I don't have mommy watching over my shoulder anymore.
So I'll role a Jedi and enjoy the game as intended with hopefully a bit of RP and hope that there won't be too many goofballs in-game to require me to turn off chat.
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I find there is much heresy being spoken here today talk of "linear" and "instanced" also there are many of the casual play infidels among us! The Casual play infidels speak of solo centric gameplay focusing on thier 30 mins of pve grinding, well I say no! No to the darkside, no to a step backward in to the age of wickdness! We Brothers and Sisters of the open sandbox enviroment that believe in a Jedi class that isn't handed to you on a plate mush band together. We must take the casual play infidels that wish Jedi to be given to them and burn them until thier fire brings back light to the MMORPG world and light to SWtOR! I see no value in a Jedi class handed to you, just the same as everyother. So that all we end up with is an army of saber jerks around every corner ingame (unless it's heavily instanced of course!). Let it be a class that needs to be unlocked and you need to train in solitude and no NPC trainers only player masters that train? Make GMs Jedi at first for the first few to get training. Then initiate a Bounty Hunter system where Bounty Hunters can track and kill those with a price on thier head. Anything less would just be utter wank!
You sound like you're part of a cult. Do you get out much? Old SWG was my favorite game, BUT it still was a game! Remember that!
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I'd rather the game be more faithful to the IP rather than another re-hash of Raph Koster's flawed vision. With the exception of Luke (who was a teenager I might add), *all* Jedi depicted in the films started as children. All of them. Heck, even Anakin, "The Chosen One" was almost turned down at the age of nine... for being too old. And this game is set in an era three thousand years prior to the movies, when both Jedi and Sith flourished. It doesn't make a lick of sense for Jedi to be anything but a vocation one begins upon character creation... unless you're proposing we all begin the game as infants. You want a sandbox sci-fi game without Jedi? I suggest you check out EVE Online.
HERESY! How dare you speak of Koster, saint of sandboxes! Clean your wicked mouth you vile infidel!
I'm not saying adhere strictly to the movies (George Lucas didn't!) but make a Jedi an achievment rather than just another proffesion. Put some mystery in there.
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Give people one good reason why Jedi should be unlockable, without using reasons involving hate of other people or vanity. Be prepared to defend your reasons with logic.
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Actually it would be against the lore unless they're going to start you off as a child. You don't grow up and beome a Jedi you're born into it and requires years oif training to master your abilities. Jedi should be a starter profession for the same reasons mages are a starter profession in a fantasy game.
You're right but I do like the idea of you having to do some training a certain places to enter society, maybe jedi get a TEF to all when they pull out thier saber? Making it a bit tougher to be a Jedi?
Why does it need to be tough to be a Jedi?
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oh theres a forum thread on jedi not being a starting prof.
when obv will like it or not this aint swg mfs
Dean says:
thats good that means u will have 2 earn it
it was main **** up of nge was making jedi a playerble class
Sam... says:
yeah this game KOTOR is about being a jedi, doing the training in an academy living like a jedi embracing the game like that, and dean this is tor not swg. its bioware not soe
i know swg is your heart an soul but u gotta come around that an see tor for what it is, its starwars but its a different game restpect it for wat it is
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Thread should have been locked after this post. Sums it all up.
Personaly i think you should beable to start off as a jedi. but when it comes down to it you should be like a padawan or whatever up to a certain level if they have levels in the game or to beable to become an actual jedi to say your skills will have to be at a certain point. and then from that to become a jedi knight should under go specific training and hardship. since a player really can go either way sith or jedi from what he does in the game by doing good things or bad things. to beable to uphold being a jedi knight should be by upholding a high enough amount of good vice versa for a sith. that way there still is going to be people running around with lightsabres and what not but to become a true jedi or sith will take some time and effort. anyways thats just what i think havnt really read much about the game since all the information is just being released, will look more into it a little bit more down the road.
I would really like this MMO to follow its single player concepts. i mean, playing a normal soldier for so long in the first Kotor, then becoming the jedi made that game alot more exciting then having a force bar from the start in Kotor 2.
I hope they ignore some of you people and keep doing what they're doing. Jedi/Sith will be fresh out the gates IMO, The ones that want it to be unlock okay sure I can see your point but I also disagree with you 100% someone has already said this isn't the empire vs rebels this is the sith/jedi <----I hope theirs a lot running around thats the point. The game is meant to give what many classic star wars fans/gamers want to be a jedi. Those of you that want it to be unlockable let me guess you worked your tail off like I did with holo's or maybe you did the village in SWG than you got smacked upside the head with the NGE. Sure they took that work aw...well not really. Just face the truth Jedi will be everywhere in this game kids will want to be them, star wars fans that simply want to be a jedi will be, an those that don't won't be. I promise their will be plenty of other people that aren't jedi running around and i'll be proud to say I'm one of those people, but when that day comes when i'm bored and want to roll a new character it might be something else but chances are it will be a Jedi why should I have to bust my ass to just unlock something. I understood that type of unlocking or keying in games like EQ and even SWG but the fact of unlocking a character seems bogus it creates elitlist in a game an it being an unlock will have those that do unlock it demanding a advantage over those that haven't (thus the old problem with SWG) so *end rant* ......so for all things fair stop with this unlockable junk equality is best in a game even if their are billions of glow sticks running around. I just hope their not all blue and red ( I honestly prefer Orange.)
Well I hope they ignore you, so we're even. But you are completely wrong on one major point. This game isn't Sith vs. Jedi, this is Sith vs. Republic. In this time frame, the Sith aren't just Dark Jedi, they are an entire culture consisting of everything from a standard foot soldier to a Dark Jedi Master. And the same is said about the Republic. The republic consists (MOSTLY) of regular people that have no force abilities at all. The Jedi are just the elite guardians of the Republic. So in a sense, you are shifting the focus of the game to a place it shouldn't be.
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I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games. (Why pay a monthly fee?)
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
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So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
Think
The whole idea of this game is set in a time period within the star wars universe where the jedi and sith are both strong in numbers. that being said it makes sense to have a game where everyone can choose to be a jedi or sith. for those people dont think its a good idea, just dont play as a jedi. this isnt SWG, jedi were every where during this time period.
What massively multiplayer game was that? It sure wasn't SWG.
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
Think
No, "you" think.
If you want someone to clearly understand your point then make your point clear.
Originally posted by GungaDin
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. (fair enough very clear and I respect your preference) Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
?
It "was" better to have them as npc? Well they weren't npc so it must be a statement of preference that is "is" better to have them as an npc.
So that last bit strikes me as you had preferred playing the game without them. Then the red bit leads me to believe you are then saying "Therefore it is better to have them as NPC AND if you want (present tense) to play a Jedi then just go play a single player game"
Therefore I was commenting on what you wrote. Sorry, that seems a bit like calling you out but if you are going to be snarky and say "think" you should remember that that is a two way street.
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So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
Think
No, "you" think.
If you want someone to clearly understand your point then make your point clear.
Originally posted by GungaDin
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. (fair enough very clear and I respect your preference) Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
?
It "was" better to have them as npc? Well they weren't npc so it must be a statement of preference that is "is" better to have them as an npc.
So that last bit strikes me as you had preferred playing the game without them. Then the red bit leads me to believe you are then saying "Therefore it is better to have them as NPC AND if you want (present tense) to play a Jedi then just go play a single player game"
Therefore I was commenting on what you wrote. Sorry, that seems a bit like calling you out but if you are going to be snarky and say "think" you should remember that that is a two way street.
Fair enough
So you are saying that a Star Wars game, set in a time where Jedi are common, should only have them as npc's?
Because a major draw of Star Wars is the idea of the Jedi class and therefore they should not let players play them?
Once again, when the movies came out, NONE of my School mates were hanging out in the cafeteria and talking about how cool it would be to be one of the cantina players or Uncle Owen.
"I" liked playing without Jedi being the focus. This game is based on Jedi, so I understand there will be Jedi.
Think
No, "you" think.
If you want someone to clearly understand your point then make your point clear.
Originally posted by GungaDin
I liked the playing in the Star Wars universe without Jedi. (fair enough very clear and I respect your preference) Better to have them as NPC only. You want to play a Jedi, just get the single player games.
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It "was" better to have them as npc? Well they weren't npc so it must be a statement of preference that is "is" better to have them as an npc.
So that last bit strikes me as you had preferred playing the game without them. Then the red bit leads me to believe you are then saying "Therefore it is better to have them as NPC AND if you want (present tense) to play a Jedi then just go play a single player game"
Therefore I was commenting on what you wrote. Sorry, that seems a bit like calling you out but if you are going to be snarky and say "think" you should remember that that is a two way street.
Fair enough
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Well I hope they ignore you, so we're even. But you are completely wrong on one major point. This game isn't Sith vs. Jedi, this is Sith vs. Republic. In this time frame, the Sith aren't just Dark Jedi, they are an entire culture consisting of everything from a standard foot soldier to a Dark Jedi Master. And the same is said about the Republic. The republic consists (MOSTLY) of regular people that have no force abilities at all. The Jedi are just the elite guardians of the Republic. So in a sense, you are shifting the focus of the game to a place it shouldn't be.
Okay i mistyped big deal same concept is at hand so you failed to prove anything to me, the game will be focused around the jedi to a great degree (we even have the light/dark side decisions that are key to the game from knowledge i've at least seen) an this world of a non jedi game you dream of died with SWG before holo-grinding. It's marketing, a game with the star wars name will sell for sure yes based on that but it will also sell on the fact people can play as a jedi an will want to play as a jedi. The most important part of it is that its not the story of revan or the exile etc etc its your character that you progress an to many people that is why they want to play the game. An i'm also glad their making it more friendly for a casual gamer like myself I don't have the thousands of hours like some of you might ( maybe you're one of them since you obvisouly disagree with me), I for one don't have that time on my hands now or in the future, So i'm glad atleast as a company bioware is thinking of everyone not just you hardcore players.
Um, dude...
Hate to tell ya, but this is intended to be the sequel of the KOTOR games.
Now, what were you in the KOTOR games?
If you don't want a game full of jedi, you probably don't want to play this, since it's ABOUT jedi.
i think the problem op see is everyone will be jedi because they are overpowered and cool. This i also see as a problem and i'm curious as how bioware will address this.
his solution to the problem is making it non-starte unlockable proffession which i dont agree with. this wont solve the problem, it will prolong the inevitable and with creating ebay market for it. wtb acc with jedi unlocked.
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No, it doesn't make sense for a character to simply begin the path of the Jedi after he is already well experienced, but one does not become a Jedi as a toddler, either. I think it would make sense to have a "force sensitive/force user" class at creation, and become Jedi/Sith as a prestiege class.
Personally, I think the Jedi class should be unlockable at mid-level cap, but still in balance with the other classes, but I'm pretty sure that won't happen.
How about people just wait until information about the other classes is actually released then? I mean...right now people are bashing the game because Jedi/Force users are basically the only classes confirmed and thus, are the only ones we have seen footage of.
It has however been stated that they won't be the only classes in the game. Yet people act as though there won't be anything else to the game.
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I am curious about which Star Wars movies the OP watched, but the ones I saw had children in Jedi school from a very young age (4?) If you're going to 'unlock' that, then what's your first quest going to be, not crapping your pants?
Unlockable Jedi was good in SWG, because it made sense that thousands of Jedi weren't running around. But to restrict it, just because you have social problems with people who play Jedi is stupid.
My IQ stays the same no matter what class I role, because in the end I'm still a college educated 28 year old who's been through a lot of shit. I was brought up to treat people with respect and to use good manners. I havne't forgotten those lessons just because I don't have mommy watching over my shoulder anymore.
So I'll role a Jedi and enjoy the game as intended with hopefully a bit of RP and hope that there won't be too many goofballs in-game to require me to turn off chat.
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You sound like you're part of a cult. Do you get out much? Old SWG was my favorite game, BUT it still was a game! Remember that!
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HERESY! How dare you speak of Koster, saint of sandboxes! Clean your wicked mouth you vile infidel!
I'm not saying adhere strictly to the movies (George Lucas didn't!) but make a Jedi an achievment rather than just another proffesion. Put some mystery in there.
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Give people one good reason why Jedi should be unlockable, without using reasons involving hate of other people or vanity. Be prepared to defend your reasons with logic.
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You're right but I do like the idea of you having to do some training a certain places to enter society, maybe jedi get a TEF to all when they pull out thier saber? Making it a bit tougher to be a Jedi?
Why does it need to be tough to be a Jedi?
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