I think we've established that javac is talking out of his rear more then interested in providing evidence.
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
I think we've established that javac is talking out of his rear more then interested in providing evidence.
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
HAHAHA! I remember that! he poked Jean Phillipe and told him he was "more educated". But he ordered pizza into the restaraunt.
Great show. Great analogy. You get +3 in my book. :-D
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title. "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
I think we've established that javac is talking out of his rear more then interested in providing evidence.
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
If I'm not mistaken, he posted the CV of some random marine biologist last time. I was wondering why he didn't break it out again this time. Maybe he lost the link to it or figured a degree in marine biology wouldn't lend his server structure mumbo jumbo any more credibility.
I absolutely LOVE this thread! Is there any way we can nominate this thread for "Thread of the Year", and give it some kind of award later on? C'mon! I really think this thread alone has all the best the internet has to offer.
What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap.
Enough with the techno babble bullsh!t, Darkfall uses "chunking" while in game (IE Vanguard). Understanding the actual server design behind Darkfall is a tad over the scope of this discussion.
Darkfall releases in just 10 days and it is going to flop badly! Me and my girlfriend just returned from out of town, visiting a guildee who is in Darkfall beta. I got to play the game for about 6-7 hours and partake in an attempted seige, etc. Darkfall is a blast to play, but it doesn't warrant a monthly subscription, because there is nothing there! The game is NOT an MMORPG and almost everything in the FAQ is missing from the game. There is no RPG elements to this game. Huge discussion on the beta message boards and it seems that most the fanbois are actually trolls who are secretly saying the game is awsome, because they want it to flop even harder. (makes sense?)
I really don't know where to start, I had a couple of hours to think about it on the way home and basically, Darkfall is another Dark & Light. Tasos is just another slick car salesman that has provided lip service instead of a product. I've read the betaleak boards (etc) and almost everything people have said about the game is TRUE. Darkfall is nothing but an extremely dumbed down version of Planetside! !! Combat is pethetic and not even remotely like a typical first person shooter (Counterstrike/Battlefield) . The skill trees are basically fake and have basically no logical feeling of progression. Heck even Warhammer has better progression of your character. Nothing seems to work as intended, jump skill? It does nothing.. I really don't want to sit here and bash every part of this game, because it would just take too long. I just want other people to be aware that this game is a big SCAM.
Go watch that Darkfall trailer, aside from the kick azz trees and lighting nothing is in the game, it's empty. BTW, there are no boats or housing... that was all a lie!!! I was expecting an unfinished game due to reading the beta leaks and posts from beta testers, but I had no idea Darkfall was in this condition. Put it this way, no amount of patching is going to fix Aventurine's lack of vision or ability. This game took 7 years for a reason... they are amatures!
This game is going to end up making Dark and Light and Mourning look like MMO masterpieces,
Why do I have this strange feeling that there will be an "error" on the website where you enter your pre- and regular orders that will magically sell more copies than they said were actually going to be allowed?
But don't worry! They will give a PR song and dance and give you the incredible privilege to have AV keep your money until they expand capacity and you will be guaranteed a spot! What a deal, huh?
I have 0 love for DF, Tasos, or AV, but I will give one defense for their NDA decision. Microsoft and Turbine's NDA on Asheron's Call 2 was not lifted until 2 or 3 days before release. Not a very good defense though, considering AC2 was a stinking heap of trash when it released.
Drev
"If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it." -Luke McKinney, The 7 Biggest Dick Moves in the History of Online Gaming
"In the end, SWG may have been more potential and promise than fulfilled expectation. But I'd rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity." -Raph Koster
I think we've established that javac is talking out of his rear more then interested in providing evidence.
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
HAHAHA! I remember that! he poked Jean Phillipe and told him he was "more educated". But he ordered pizza into the restaraunt.
Great show. Great analogy. You get +3 in my book. :-D
Weren't you the first one to bring up your credentials?
Guy sounds a lot more credible than the rest of you put together to be honest.
Someone previously in this thread said it best about too many red flags to order this title.
IMO, when a title begins to create 2-3 red flags, for me personally, I do not risk investing into it.
Dropping/cutting features weeks before release? Red Flag.
Not lifting the NDA well in advanced of the release? Red Flag.
Not conducting at least one stress test on your servers during beta? Red Flag.
Not actually answering questions in repeated interviews? Red Flag.
Having only ONE person cable of conducting all the interviews and released news? Red Flag.
Banning a good number of testers due to posts on testing forums? Red Flag.
Changing significant features in the game weeks/days before release? Red Flag.
Anyways, you get my point. Don't just look at this list (and I am sure many others) for what would constitute a Red Flag. Take a look at other recent launches with similar Red Flags and how they did on release: Vangard, Tabula Rasa, Hellgate: London, AoC, and WAR. All of these titles had a good number of Red Flags prior to release. I see this title going the same route.
I havent really heard anything that makes me want to give this game a shot. Sounds like another shadowbane only worse. Hopefully the game will be a success and prove us cynics wrong. I know pvpers have been waiting for a decent game a long time.
I had a red flag hit me in the face lol.I really like the idea Tasos gives about EVERYTHING in the game can be crafted.I think this was a false statement however or not?He went on to mention there would be EPIC gear, can this also be crafted?this is why i kind of doubt his statement,i highly doubt the EPIC gear can be crafted,unless utilizing the drops from that same BOSS,that would still be a misleading statement.
I like a lot of ideas Aventurine are TRYING to incorporate into their game,but i wish someone would point me to a leaked video,where the player/s are actually having fun?I have yet to see one.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Wow, I just found this thread today. I was reading up on DF cause I had heard from some guild mates that it was due to release soon and from what I had heard I was looking forward to it after the crushing disappointment that was WAR.
On the one hand it is a huge let down to see that there is nearly universal agreement that DF is little more than vapor ware. Now I will have to start the search for my next MMO all over again.’
On the other hand the drama, the theater, the shear spectacle that I experienced as this thread took on a life of its own was, well moving. Hell I fixed popcorn half the way through it and laughed at some of the comments until I had soda blast out of my nose.
This is more entertainment than I have had in months. Someone should seriously bottle this thread and sell admission. It’s more worth my money than any MMO in recent memory.
I love watching people on these forums bash countless games , acting as if they have created a mmorpg themselves.
I have guildies in DFO beta and i sit and listen to them in ventrilo. I've played with these people for a better part of 8 years and I trust their judgement.
They are pre-ordering DFO, so I will pre-ordering it.
In the meanwhile I will sit back and laugh at all of you "armchair" devs here on the boards who think they know everything
I love watching people on these forums bash countless games , acting as if they have created a mmorpg themselves. I have guildies in DFO beta and i sit and listen to them in ventrilo. I've played with these people for a better part of 8 years and I trust their judgement. They are pre-ordering DFO, so I will pre-ordering it. In the meanwhile I will sit back and laugh at all of you "armchair" devs here on the boards who think they know everything Keep bashing the game. Its entertainment..
Outstanding, you're all going to be ripped off together. I mean, surely your friends that totally exist and your anecdotal overhearings trump LOGIC and many many leaks stating the contrary.
This sucks bigtime, I would rather do without naval combat and get player housing instead.
I hope they have a good plan to implement player housing later on.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site : http://mmodata.blogspot.be/ Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
I love watching people on these forums bash countless games , acting as if they have created a mmorpg themselves. I have guildies in DFO beta and i sit and listen to them in ventrilo. I've played with these people for a better part of 8 years and I trust their judgement. They are pre-ordering DFO, so I will pre-ordering it. In the meanwhile I will sit back and laugh at all of you "armchair" devs here on the boards who think they know everything Keep bashing the game. Its entertainment..
I am not an economist but I know the economy is in the sh*t. Creating an MMO is not a pre requisite for forming an opinion on them.
Funny the guys that I know an trust are saying quite the reverse to what my freinds are. Ask your guildies how long they can keep the servers up....less than the D&L guys managed. Game is at least 6 months to a year from ready is what I am hearing.
Someone previously in this thread said it best about too many red flags to order this title.
IMO, when a title begins to create 2-3 red flags, for me personally, I do not risk investing into it.
Dropping/cutting features weeks before release? Red Flag. False, we've known about everything but the 4-legged mahirrim running thing. everything else has been known for 12 months+. Not lifting the NDA well in advanced of the release? Red Flag. true, but there are plenty of leaks out there, and almost all of them are positive /shrug. Not conducting at least one stress test on your servers during beta? Red Flag. false, noone outside of Av knows whether there has been a stress test. Not actually answering questions in repeated interviews? Red Flag. false, quite ridiculous thing to say. Having only ONE person cable of conducting all the interviews and released news? Red Flag. false, tasos has been doing all the interviews and news for nearly 5 years. Banning a good number of testers due to posts on testing forums? Red Flag. false. there have been less than 10 beta testers banned; less than 0.1% of the beta tester population. Changing significant features in the game weeks/days before release? Red Flag. false, what do you think has been changed?
Anyways, you get my point.
No, we don't. You're either blatantly lying or just haven't done any research.
I love watching people on these forums bash countless games , acting as if they have created a mmorpg themselves. I have guildies in DFO beta and i sit and listen to them in ventrilo. I've played with these people for a better part of 8 years and I trust their judgement. They are pre-ordering DFO, so I will pre-ordering it. In the meanwhile I will sit back and laugh at all of you "armchair" devs here on the boards who think they know everything Keep bashing the game. Its entertainment..
this is exactly how many people who are in the beta are feeling right now.
You can supply all the rebuttals you want, but the only reason someone playing the beta at present would preorder is that A. they have never played a MMO before or B. they are masochists intent on proving wrong what everyone knows, that this game is another typical indy game which listed grandiose features, but will have few working at release.
To say that this game is a work in progress is being extremely kind.
Most of your statements on this thread have been so contrary to what all the beta leaks say. The best one was where you were touting the AI. Well the AI for the guards was so bad they had to put towers in instead. If that is any indication how bad the coding for this game is then you can pretty much figure out how bad the rest of the game is.
Making repeated attempts at defending what everyone knows to be a very weak game just marks you as deluded. You will probably be standing on the corner shouting the world is going to end next.
You can supply all the rebuttals you want, but the only reason someone playing the beta at present would preorder is that A. they have never played a MMO before or B. they are masochists
Yeah that's why almost all beta testers are preordering or why most voted DF as their favourite and beta MMO right now.
The only reason not to play DF is if you're a WOW-loving carebear. If you like PVP and sandboxes, you will probably like DF.
Most of your statements on this thread have been so contrary to what all the beta leaks say. The best one was where you were touting the AI. Well the AI for the guards was so bad they had to put towers in instead. If that is any indication how bad the coding for this game is then you can pretty much figure out how bad the rest of the game is.
"As things stand right now, the guards are in various fixed positions like towers and posts and not roaming around."
You're just another clueless troll/WOW fanboi who can't read, and is cherrypicking all the worst things being reported without even bothering to fact-check them.
WoW has absolutely nothing to do with someone liking this game or not.
What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap.
You can supply all the rebuttals you want, but the only reason someone playing the beta at present would preorder is that A. they have never played a MMO before or B. they are masochists
Yeah that's why almost all beta testers are preordering or why most voted DF as their favourite and beta MMO right now.
The only reason not to play DF is if you're a WOW-loving carebear. If you like PVP and sandboxes, you will probably like DF.
Most of your statements on this thread have been so contrary to what all the beta leaks say. The best one was where you were touting the AI. Well the AI for the guards was so bad they had to put towers in instead. If that is any indication how bad the coding for this game is then you can pretty much figure out how bad the rest of the game is.
"As things stand right now, the guards are in various fixed positions like towers and posts and not roaming around."
You're just another clueless troll/WOW fanboi who can't read, and is cherrypicking all the worst things being reported without even bothering to fact-check them.
LOL most beta testers are preordering because there was only like 5 beta testers and if 3 preorder that is most .
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Oh man, easily the best part of this thread was someone actually trying to pull the "Derek Smart" card.
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
HAHAHA! I remember that! he poked Jean Phillipe and told him he was "more educated". But he ordered pizza into the restaraunt.
Great show. Great analogy. You get +3 in my book. :-D
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
If I'm not mistaken, he posted the CV of some random marine biologist last time. I was wondering why he didn't break it out again this time. Maybe he lost the link to it or figured a degree in marine biology wouldn't lend his server structure mumbo jumbo any more credibility.
Wtf, no player housing? What else is gone we don't know of yet?
Oh please, Lord British, bring Ultima Online 2 to us, your humble servants! We'll promise we will never play any other mmo!
I absolutely LOVE this thread! Is there any way we can nominate this thread for "Thread of the Year", and give it some kind of award later on?
C'mon! I really think this thread alone has all the best the internet has to offer.
What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap.
This game is going to end up making Dark and Light and Mourning look like MMO masterpieces,
Why do I have this strange feeling that there will be an "error" on the website where you enter your pre- and regular orders that will magically sell more copies than they said were actually going to be allowed?
But don't worry! They will give a PR song and dance and give you the incredible privilege to have AV keep your money until they expand capacity and you will be guaranteed a spot! What a deal, huh?
I have 0 love for DF, Tasos, or AV, but I will give one defense for their NDA decision. Microsoft and Turbine's NDA on Asheron's Call 2 was not lifted until 2 or 3 days before release. Not a very good defense though, considering AC2 was a stinking heap of trash when it released.
Drev
"If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it."
-Luke McKinney, The 7 Biggest Dick Moves in the History of Online Gaming
"In the end, SWG may have been more potential and promise than fulfilled expectation. But I'd rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
-Raph Koster
only you think that. everyone else knows you got wtfpwned. specifically i gave links that substantiated my claim, you didn't; your knowledge of distributed computing == cursory, etc. sorry.
but if you can pls do find me a link, any link that describes WOW's server tech as being anything like what you were claiming.
You are quite wrong on this. None of your posts indicate you actually know what you're talking about.
Furthermore, people with any form of post-graduate education will have too much pride to post in such an immature manner. Throwing around internet Ph.D's and using terms like "wtfpwned" are dead giveaways that you're at best still in college. You need to tone your trolling down a notch to avoid making a bigger fool out of yourself.
Did he post his CV again? I warned him that was a bad idea the last time he was trying to prove his metal. He reminds me of the "Ph.D. in Music" from USC that poked the Maitre D from Hell's Kitchen when he had the "audacity" to tell him his actions were illegal.
"I have a Ph.D.! Damn You!!!"
"A PH.D.!!!!"
HAHAHA! I remember that! he poked Jean Phillipe and told him he was "more educated". But he ordered pizza into the restaraunt.
Great show. Great analogy. You get +3 in my book. :-D
Weren't you the first one to bring up your credentials?
Guy sounds a lot more credible than the rest of you put together to be honest.
Too funny.
Someone previously in this thread said it best about too many red flags to order this title.
IMO, when a title begins to create 2-3 red flags, for me personally, I do not risk investing into it.
Dropping/cutting features weeks before release? Red Flag.
Not lifting the NDA well in advanced of the release? Red Flag.
Not conducting at least one stress test on your servers during beta? Red Flag.
Not actually answering questions in repeated interviews? Red Flag.
Having only ONE person cable of conducting all the interviews and released news? Red Flag.
Banning a good number of testers due to posts on testing forums? Red Flag.
Changing significant features in the game weeks/days before release? Red Flag.
Anyways, you get my point. Don't just look at this list (and I am sure many others) for what would constitute a Red Flag. Take a look at other recent launches with similar Red Flags and how they did on release: Vangard, Tabula Rasa, Hellgate: London, AoC, and WAR. All of these titles had a good number of Red Flags prior to release. I see this title going the same route.
I havent really heard anything that makes me want to give this game a shot. Sounds like another shadowbane only worse. Hopefully the game will be a success and prove us cynics wrong. I know pvpers have been waiting for a decent game a long time.
I had a red flag hit me in the face lol.I really like the idea Tasos gives about EVERYTHING in the game can be crafted.I think this was a false statement however or not?He went on to mention there would be EPIC gear, can this also be crafted?this is why i kind of doubt his statement,i highly doubt the EPIC gear can be crafted,unless utilizing the drops from that same BOSS,that would still be a misleading statement.
I like a lot of ideas Aventurine are TRYING to incorporate into their game,but i wish someone would point me to a leaked video,where the player/s are actually having fun?I have yet to see one.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Wow, I just found this thread today. I was reading up on DF cause I had heard from some guild mates that it was due to release soon and from what I had heard I was looking forward to it after the crushing disappointment that was WAR.
On the one hand it is a huge let down to see that there is nearly universal agreement that DF is little more than vapor ware. Now I will have to start the search for my next MMO all over again.’
On the other hand the drama, the theater, the shear spectacle that I experienced as this thread took on a life of its own was, well moving. Hell I fixed popcorn half the way through it and laughed at some of the comments until I had soda blast out of my nose.
This is more entertainment than I have had in months. Someone should seriously bottle this thread and sell admission. It’s more worth my money than any MMO in recent memory.
Thanks Guys
I love watching people on these forums bash countless games , acting as if they have created a mmorpg themselves.
I have guildies in DFO beta and i sit and listen to them in ventrilo. I've played with these people for a better part of 8 years and I trust their judgement.
They are pre-ordering DFO, so I will pre-ordering it.
In the meanwhile I will sit back and laugh at all of you "armchair" devs here on the boards who think they know everything
Keep bashing the game. Its entertainment..
Interesting
Outstanding, you're all going to be ripped off together. I mean, surely your friends that totally exist and your anecdotal overhearings trump LOGIC and many many leaks stating the contrary.
No personal housing
This sucks bigtime, I would rather do without naval combat and get player housing instead.
I hope they have a good plan to implement player housing later on.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
Exactly like it in so many ways. Including what leakers are saying.
I am not an economist but I know the economy is in the sh*t. Creating an MMO is not a pre requisite for forming an opinion on them.
Funny the guys that I know an trust are saying quite the reverse to what my freinds are. Ask your guildies how long they can keep the servers up....less than the D&L guys managed. Game is at least 6 months to a year from ready is what I am hearing.
No, we don't. You're either blatantly lying or just haven't done any research.
this is exactly how many people who are in the beta are feeling right now.
You can supply all the rebuttals you want, but the only reason someone playing the beta at present would preorder is that A. they have never played a MMO before or B. they are masochists intent on proving wrong what everyone knows, that this game is another typical indy game which listed grandiose features, but will have few working at release.
To say that this game is a work in progress is being extremely kind.
Most of your statements on this thread have been so contrary to what all the beta leaks say. The best one was where you were touting the AI. Well the AI for the guards was so bad they had to put towers in instead. If that is any indication how bad the coding for this game is then you can pretty much figure out how bad the rest of the game is.
Making repeated attempts at defending what everyone knows to be a very weak game just marks you as deluded. You will probably be standing on the corner shouting the world is going to end next.
Yeah that's why almost all beta testers are preordering or why most voted DF as their favourite and beta MMO right now.
The only reason not to play DF is if you're a WOW-loving carebear. If you like PVP and sandboxes, you will probably like DF.
Total and complete lying, as usual.
Guard towers have been in Darkfall for 12 months:
"As things stand right now, the guards are in various fixed positions like towers and posts and not roaming around."
You're just another clueless troll/WOW fanboi who can't read, and is cherrypicking all the worst things being reported without even bothering to fact-check them.
WoW has absolutely nothing to do with someone liking this game or not.
What Happened With SWG Went Down YEARS AGO! Please Try To Stop Whining About It In Every Thread I Read. Mourn It, And Finally MOVE ON With Your Lives! Thanks A Heap.
Yeah that's why almost all beta testers are preordering or why most voted DF as their favourite and beta MMO right now.
The only reason not to play DF is if you're a WOW-loving carebear. If you like PVP and sandboxes, you will probably like DF.
Total and complete lying, as usual.
Guard towers have been in Darkfall for 12 months:
"As things stand right now, the guards are in various fixed positions like towers and posts and not roaming around."
You're just another clueless troll/WOW fanboi who can't read, and is cherrypicking all the worst things being reported without even bothering to fact-check them.
LOL most beta testers are preordering because there was only like 5 beta testers and if 3 preorder that is most .