It does indeed sound finished and ready as I've seen few complaints in the reviews I've read.
However, it does not sound like a fun game: The skill-system is really just a facade for only really having a few classes, since I've learned that most melee skills are identical regardless of weapon type and that advancement is not continuous (with every skill point) as it should be in a skill-based system, but only really advances in increments of 10 until 99 where you can expend the 100th skill on a special attack that resets the skill back to 99.
I've also read that crafting is ridiculously tedious (not that I'm really into crafting) and given that items should be (or maybe they really are) more marginal than they are in other games due to full looting, it doesn't seem like something one would really enjoy pursuing.
The reagent cost for magic as well as ammunition for archery might be incentives to craft, but that just further compounds the issue of tedious leveling.
In addition to the aforementioned there seems to be the issue of rather trivial gameplay: Accounts by beta players indicate that there really is nothing to fighting in the game besides "counterstrike knife fighting" for melee; there are few skills that have "CC" effects and it all boils down to stamina conservation with a handful of abilities.
I'm not saying that Darkfall is a bad game: It seems to be more along the lines of what Vanguard had promised in terms of "hardcore", but it definitely does not look like the game I'd spend my money on as I generally can't stand games with slow leveling, slow character advancement and few skills.
If you enjoy that kind of game, then I'm happy for you, but for most people I don't think that their somewhat atavistic approach will cut it.
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I willing to bet you that you will not play this game more than a few months. Im sure I won't ever know for real how long you do play it for so a wasted statement on my part. The graphics to me looks no better to me than Asheron's Call but graphics don't matter. I'm sure the real test for the game is how truly how deep the crafting and combat and all the other things that are supposed to be the game will work. Also how will full corpse looting effect whether people will find it to frustrating and leave the game. I bet they will carebear it down in hopes to hang on to the subs. I don't expect a 10 year old game to offer the goodies that other up to date MMO's do but I'm sure it may last. Horizons lasted a long time and I think it is still around and that game barely had anyone playing it. So I figure Darkfall will be around for sometime and alot of people will say I was hoping that game would had been the one.
Trying to sell Darkfall to the general MMORPG crowd is like trying to sell porn to the Amish. This game is not going to be for everyone or even most people. I am an old man. I suck at PvP. I just can't compete with today's 16-30 year old. I got my balls kicked in almost everyday in this game. It was cruel but as I learned the ropes and how to suck up a beating, the game really opened up for me. The important thing to me is that despite how difficult it was at times, I really enjoyed it and because it was hard is why it attracted me. I really think this game is a masterpiece in its own rights. I feel that I am now going to be spoiled as no other game will deliver this difficulty to me again.
I have to say I fell off my seat at your opening line about porn...Fantastic!!
With regards to being old, I am 52 and would say unless you are like my old man 75 who playes Eve then if he can hold his own no reason you can not and you have been there and done it in DFO so you have got the edge on noobs.
With regards to being spoilt and your last paragraph, this has finally sold it for me as I was uncertain weather to bother or not until 3 months had gone, but two friends are playing in beta and they too say it's not perfect but still fun.
So thanks for your honest opinion and I value this above many others because of your explanations of why it works for you and I understand that from other prospective it may well not.
Is Darkfall ready for release? Yes You know this how? Having a limited closed beta does not determine if the game is ready to be released on a production scale. For the fact they are limiting their release AV does not seem to think they are ready for a complete release. You are only ASSUMING based on your current limited knowledge.
Comparing Darkfall to the release state of many other games on the market It meets the standard. It does not and the simple argument for it is that it will be a limited release. If AV was truly ready to release DF like a normal MMO it would not be limited and they would have stuck to no pre-orders. There is a number of reasons that show DF will not release like a normal MMO. To claim it is in a better state is simply an opinion based on again limited information, that does not make it a fact.
Stability: This game’s client is rock solid and errors are few and far between. If you experience them ever. This should be the highest standard to tell if a game is ready for release. There were several past MMOs that couldn’t even get this right. Point is, THIS GAME WORKS. There is content and functions yet to be turned on. To claim the client will be rock solid when the COMPLETE game has not been tested is simply misleading. The client appears to be stable at this point, but you simply do not know how it or the server will perform at release.
Playable world with mobs and content: It’s all there, some people say its empty but it’s simply not true. There are mob spawns everywhere, caves player city locations. The game has a lot in it. Compared to standard MMOs it is devoid of NPCs and Mobs. Now you could argue DF is not a standard MMO, but your whole post centers around comparisons to industry standards. If this is the case DF is lacking in content.
Working Progression system: There is a skill system in place that people can progress their character though. Is it perfect and finished? No. But not even WoW had that crap down look at talents. Last time I checked most of the functionality of skills were in place at the time of release. Please name me the functioning CC spells in the game currently. Other then pushback name me one utility spell/skill that is functioning in a noticeable way. This is still a major issue.
GUI: It has one and it works to a point. It is not very customizable but it still works. Chat is handled and you can interact with the game with no issues if you learn what to press. Works to a point is hardly a ringing endorsement. This is clearly lagging behind other games for a standard. Saying it is in there and "kinda" works is hardly an argument to make your point.
Knows it’s target audience: The game caters to a certain type of player and they know it and the game is designed for such a thing. This is such a trite excuse that has been repeated like a mantra. The game if it was feature complete (according to Tasos's claims and the website) it would cater to most MMO players out there. There are several misleading things that were put out during the years to entice hype and now are being proven untrue. As an excuse the excuse above is given.
Graphics: It is comparable to current popular games. Is it AOC super graphics no but it works and doesn’t look like its 10 years old. It is comparable to games that have been out for 3 - 5 years, not current MMOs. LoTRO, EVE, AOC, WAR, even WOW and EQII if you take animations into consideration all are better quality. Perfect World and a few other F2P MMOs also have beter graphics. I personally don't care, but don't say the game is on par with current standards... it simpy is not. I have been through a lot of MMORPG releases and darkfall is just as good as and better than some other games at the 1 week before released point. The game is there, it is playable, it is functional, it is fun, and it is ready for release. This is your opinion and you have a right to it, just don't state it as fact. I personally have seen better 1 week states to games then DF. DAoC, WoW, and LoTHRO come to mind of the top of my head. Put doen the pom poms and take an actual subjective view.
DF has potential, but it is being released before it has any polish work done. The beta has been very useful for finding issues within the game and was much needed. DF COULD be a great game in the next few months. The number of patches being released is a good sign of this. Right now there is simply no way to determine how a production release will go. My guess is that DF will stumble a bit and find its legs a month or two down the road... NA release will be much more smooth because of it. This however is just my opinion just like you have yours, only on the 25 will either of us truly know who is more correct.
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I agree, the stability of the client is beyond what I have experienced in many launches let alone beta's even running in debug mode. The world is one of the best done in MMO's to me, you don't have to agree that is simply my opinion and I have played AoC, FFXI , DaoC, EQ, EQ2, SWG, Vanguard, guild wars etc etc etc lol.
Patches are done quick and from what ive seen, don't seem to break anything new lol.
Some of the problems I and other testers have had are actually being looked at and worked on so can't say I really have any issue's. I do wish player housing was in, it may be but not yet. Other than Player owned Housing I can't really say anything is missing.
There are lots of skills, not sure there 500+, but they could be. There just not done the way I thought they would be. Seems passive skills and active skills of every sort got counted which I guess makes the 500 skills true, don't know, don't overly care.
The 700+ spells could be true, but no ones managed to go through all of the schools, I doubt anyone has any half of the schools skilled up.
The game didn't turn out to be UO2 it has a lot from UO that I liked but it is simple a lot more than a UO2. It's a Real Time Strategy MMORPG. The city building is simply to close to an RTS game like Warcraft or Civilizations for there not to be a comparison. Your clan claims a city, builds buildings which unlock other structures and such that allow other things to be built. You get shops to buy things from, NPC's that will train skills, structures that allow you to craft items, places to harvest mats, all kinds of things. Each city I have encountered has been very unique when compaired to others. Some seem basic while others seem extremely defensible. One I came across even had an elevator that you had to take to reach the clan stone.
Solo play is more than possible in DarkFall, it is hard at times, but it is more than a viable play option for those interested. However I will say the real fun doesn't start until you are part of a clan. With declarations of War and sieges, the process to build and the struggle to keep a city are a formula for an almost endless amount of fun.
Simply put, I haven't had this much fun in an MMO in a long time. This is just beta........... all the mobs aren't even on, limited amount of players, and running in debug mode.
DFO to me is what AoC and War tried to be, or atleast should have been and this is just the beta. Whats funny is, there's more to come.
So yeah, I think DarkFall is ready for release personally.
Edited to add: To address the poster above me, you're allowed your opinions so I won't comment on most of that. I will however address what you said about the lack of CC, there will be almost NO CC in DFO. There needs to be little to NO CC in DFO. So if this is as much of a problem for you as the above post implies then I would move on. The Devs want little to no CC, the players want little to no CC. So your going to be in the minority on that.
Stability: This game’s client is rock solid and errors are few and far between. If you experience them ever. This should be the highest standard to tell if a game is ready for release. There were several past MMOs that couldn’t even get this right. Point is, THIS GAME WORKS. Ignoring of course the massive amount of local memory injections already found being that the morons at Aventurine never heard of the first rule of making a MMO... DONT, MAKE, IMPORTANT, SHIT, CLIENTSIDE.
Im curious about this one. You got a source/proof to elaborate on?
Not trolling, just wanna know.
The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.
Wow, based on the recent comments in here Darkfall will be the Obama of MMO's. I expect NDA to lift at any moment and the flood of raving reviews from mmo journalists to start pouring in.
Wow, based on the recent comments in here Darkfall will be the Obama of MMO's. I expect NDA to lift at any moment and the flood of raving reviews from mmo journalists to start pouring in.
NDA is already lifted lol. I am a beta tester and can now say so :P.
Stability: This game’s client is rock solid and errors are few and far between. If you experience them ever. This should be the highest standard to tell if a game is ready for release. There were several past MMOs that couldn’t even get this right. Point is, THIS GAME WORKS. Ignoring of course the massive amount of local memory injections already found being that the morons at Aventurine never heard of the first rule of making a MMO... DONT, MAKE, IMPORTANT, SHIT, CLIENTSIDE.
Im curious about this one. You got a source/proof to elaborate on?
Not trolling, just wanna know.
Yep, elaborate, please.
I would be interested in some information regarding this.
I have not been in the Beta, i have read what DF is about and got an fairly good idea of what i will get. I will not listen to the people that are here to just hate DF and talk as much shit as possible about it.
I dont understand why people who havent even played it has come to the solution that it will suck. Well, at the hell with thoose bitter people, i will try it out for my own and then decide if i like it or not.
I have not been in the Beta, i have read what DF is about and got an fairly good idea of what i will get. I will not listen to the people that are here to just hate DF and talk as much shit as possible about it. I dont understand why people who havent even played it has come to the solution that it will suck. Well, at the hell with thoose bitter people, i will try it out for my own and then decide if i like it or not.
Thats all you can do really. In the end no matter what anyone says, the only reviewer you can trust is yourself.
Wow, based on the recent comments in here Darkfall will be the Obama of MMO's. I expect NDA to lift at any moment and the flood of raving reviews from mmo journalists to start pouring in.
I have not been in the Beta, i have read what DF is about and got an fairly good idea of what i will get. I will not listen to the people that are here to just hate DF and talk as much shit as possible about it. I dont understand why people who havent even played it has come to the solution that it will suck. Well, at the hell with thoose bitter people, i will try it out for my own and then decide if i like it or not.
Thats all you can do really. In the end no matter what anyone says, the only reviewer you can trust is yourself.
There's truth in those words.
Up until now i thought there was no game to speak of when you said Darkfall, was i proven wrong? Oh yes, pretty soundly, will the game be good at release? Who knows.
So it still remains for me to see if Darkfall holds any appeal to me, that i will find out in good time, but almost assuredly not on release. I've paid for too many half baked games to even consider buying an mmo on release day again.
No, it's the prelude to a thread about how to raise a "strong individual"
That actually made me lmao.
I keep waiting for Dr. Phil to make an appearance.
Coincidentally my mommy watches Dr. Phil while she's makeing me dinner, along with my brother, sis, sis's boyfriend, thier 2 kids and brothers girlfriend and her child.
In a way it is humor. I have yet to play a finished MMO.
Comparing Darkfall to the release state of many other games on the market It meets the standard.
Stability: This game’s client is rock solid and errors are few and far between. If you experience them ever. This should be the highest standard to tell if a game is ready for release. There were several past MMOs that couldn’t even get this right. Point is, THIS GAME WORKS. Ignoring of course the massive amount of local memory injections already found being that the morons at Aventurine never heard of the first rule of making a MMO... DONT, MAKE, IMPORTANT, SHIT, CLIENTSIDE.
Playable world with mobs and content: It’s all there, some people say its empty but it’s simply not true. There are mob spawns everywhere, caves player city locations. The game has a lot in it.
Every video i've seen it looks like a ghost town.
Working Progression system: There is a skill system in place that people can progress their character though. Is it perfect and finished? No. But not even WoW had that crap down look at talents.
Sit in a safe spot, cast spells up at the sky, walk away, come back a few hours later to maxed skills. Sounds fun.
GUI: It has one and it works to a point. It is not very customizable but it still works. Chat is handled and you can interact with the game with no issues if you learn what to press.
Meh, GUI means little to nothing to me.
Knows it’s target audience: The game caters to a certain type of player and they know it and the game is designed for such a thing.
Target Audience: 13-20 still living at home with mommy and daddy while becoming DAS UBER LEGENDARY PVPAAARRRRS.
Graphics: It is comparable to current popular games. Is it AOC super graphics no but it works and doesn’t look like its 10 years old. Graphics mean little to nothing to me. I have been through a lot of MMORPG releases and darkfall is just as good as and better than some other games at the 1 week before released point. The game is there, it is playable, it is functional, it is fun, and it is ready for release. In your hubris opinion. I'll try it when there is a free trial, and there will be after about 3 months of complete failure.
You obviously know nothing about the game.
Macro for some hours and you have max skills?
Macro isnt even allowed.
And if it were, max skills would take weeks.
LOL, I have no words for how amusing that was to me.
No, it's the prelude to a thread about how to raise a "strong individual"
That actually made me lmao.
I keep waiting for Dr. Phil to make an appearance.
Coincidentally my mommy watches Dr. Phil while she's makeing me dinner, along with my brother, sis, sis's boyfriend, thier 2 kids and brothers girlfriend and her child.
In a way it is humor. I have yet to play a finished MMO.
I wish he would, Dr. Phil is an idiot, and I wish he would pop on here so I could tell him so.
You think Dr. Phil thinks it is ok for a 32 year old to live at home with mommy and daddy, anxiously awaiting the release of Darkfall?
Wow, based on the recent comments in here Darkfall will be the Obama of MMO's. I expect NDA to lift at any moment and the flood of raving reviews from mmo journalists to start pouring in.
Wow, based on the recent comments in here Darkfall will be the Obama of MMO's. I expect NDA to lift at any moment and the flood of raving reviews from mmo journalists to start pouring in.
LMAO..."the Obama of MMO's"...great line hehe...
Yeah it was. I think DF will make it. The community will be small, but it has to be better than AoC and WAR.
Even if the graphics are poor, it stands just as good a chance as any I guess.
LOL the Obama of MMORPGs. OP Tasos has been saying all of the stuff you posted throughout the years since 2003. And yes its the same game when Tasos has been spouting its feature complete and ready to go since 2003.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
LOL the Obama of MMORPGs. OP Tasos has been saying all of the stuff you posted throughout the years since 2003. And yes its the same game when Tasos has been spouting its feature complete and ready to go since 2003.
Good thing I based all my comments on actual gameplay and not what that tard said 3 years ago or now.
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It does indeed sound finished and ready as I've seen few complaints in the reviews I've read.
However, it does not sound like a fun game: The skill-system is really just a facade for only really having a few classes, since I've learned that most melee skills are identical regardless of weapon type and that advancement is not continuous (with every skill point) as it should be in a skill-based system, but only really advances in increments of 10 until 99 where you can expend the 100th skill on a special attack that resets the skill back to 99.
I've also read that crafting is ridiculously tedious (not that I'm really into crafting) and given that items should be (or maybe they really are) more marginal than they are in other games due to full looting, it doesn't seem like something one would really enjoy pursuing.
The reagent cost for magic as well as ammunition for archery might be incentives to craft, but that just further compounds the issue of tedious leveling.
In addition to the aforementioned there seems to be the issue of rather trivial gameplay: Accounts by beta players indicate that there really is nothing to fighting in the game besides "counterstrike knife fighting" for melee; there are few skills that have "CC" effects and it all boils down to stamina conservation with a handful of abilities.
I'm not saying that Darkfall is a bad game: It seems to be more along the lines of what Vanguard had promised in terms of "hardcore", but it definitely does not look like the game I'd spend my money on as I generally can't stand games with slow leveling, slow character advancement and few skills.
If you enjoy that kind of game, then I'm happy for you, but for most people I don't think that their somewhat atavistic approach will cut it.
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I have to say I fell off my seat at your opening line about porn...Fantastic!!
With regards to being old, I am 52 and would say unless you are like my old man 75 who playes Eve then if he can hold his own no reason you can not and you have been there and done it in DFO so you have got the edge on noobs.
With regards to being spoilt and your last paragraph, this has finally sold it for me as I was uncertain weather to bother or not until 3 months had gone, but two friends are playing in beta and they too say it's not perfect but still fun.
So thanks for your honest opinion and I value this above many others because of your explanations of why it works for you and I understand that from other prospective it may well not.
Bandit.
Asbo
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
I agree, the stability of the client is beyond what I have experienced in many launches let alone beta's even running in debug mode. The world is one of the best done in MMO's to me, you don't have to agree that is simply my opinion and I have played AoC, FFXI , DaoC, EQ, EQ2, SWG, Vanguard, guild wars etc etc etc lol.
Patches are done quick and from what ive seen, don't seem to break anything new lol.
Some of the problems I and other testers have had are actually being looked at and worked on so can't say I really have any issue's. I do wish player housing was in, it may be but not yet. Other than Player owned Housing I can't really say anything is missing.
There are lots of skills, not sure there 500+, but they could be. There just not done the way I thought they would be. Seems passive skills and active skills of every sort got counted which I guess makes the 500 skills true, don't know, don't overly care.
The 700+ spells could be true, but no ones managed to go through all of the schools, I doubt anyone has any half of the schools skilled up.
The game didn't turn out to be UO2 it has a lot from UO that I liked but it is simple a lot more than a UO2. It's a Real Time Strategy MMORPG. The city building is simply to close to an RTS game like Warcraft or Civilizations for there not to be a comparison. Your clan claims a city, builds buildings which unlock other structures and such that allow other things to be built. You get shops to buy things from, NPC's that will train skills, structures that allow you to craft items, places to harvest mats, all kinds of things. Each city I have encountered has been very unique when compaired to others. Some seem basic while others seem extremely defensible. One I came across even had an elevator that you had to take to reach the clan stone.
Solo play is more than possible in DarkFall, it is hard at times, but it is more than a viable play option for those interested. However I will say the real fun doesn't start until you are part of a clan. With declarations of War and sieges, the process to build and the struggle to keep a city are a formula for an almost endless amount of fun.
Simply put, I haven't had this much fun in an MMO in a long time. This is just beta........... all the mobs aren't even on, limited amount of players, and running in debug mode.
DFO to me is what AoC and War tried to be, or atleast should have been and this is just the beta. Whats funny is, there's more to come.
So yeah, I think DarkFall is ready for release personally.
Edited to add: To address the poster above me, you're allowed your opinions so I won't comment on most of that. I will however address what you said about the lack of CC, there will be almost NO CC in DFO. There needs to be little to NO CC in DFO. So if this is as much of a problem for you as the above post implies then I would move on. The Devs want little to no CC, the players want little to no CC. So your going to be in the minority on that.
Im curious about this one. You got a source/proof to elaborate on?
Not trolling, just wanna know.
The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.
Wow, based on the recent comments in here Darkfall will be the Obama of MMO's. I expect NDA to lift at any moment and the flood of raving reviews from mmo journalists to start pouring in.
NDA is already lifted lol. I am a beta tester and can now say so :P.
Im curious about this one. You got a source/proof to elaborate on?
Not trolling, just wanna know.
Yep, elaborate, please.
I would be interested in some information regarding this.
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I have not been in the Beta, i have read what DF is about and got an fairly good idea of what i will get. I will not listen to the people that are here to just hate DF and talk as much shit as possible about it.
I dont understand why people who havent even played it has come to the solution that it will suck. Well, at the hell with thoose bitter people, i will try it out for my own and then decide if i like it or not.
Thats all you can do really. In the end no matter what anyone says, the only reviewer you can trust is yourself.
The UI looks like outdated trash. Hell, it looks like it is... *GASP* 8 years old!!
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NDA's already lifted there chief
Is this humor?
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Thats all you can do really. In the end no matter what anyone says, the only reviewer you can trust is yourself.
There's truth in those words.
Up until now i thought there was no game to speak of when you said Darkfall, was i proven wrong? Oh yes, pretty soundly, will the game be good at release? Who knows.
So it still remains for me to see if Darkfall holds any appeal to me, that i will find out in good time, but almost assuredly not on release. I've paid for too many half baked games to even consider buying an mmo on release day again.
Is this humor?
No, it's the prelude to a thread about how to raise a "strong individual"
Is this humor?
No, it's the prelude to a thread about how to raise a "strong individual"
That actually made me lmao.
I keep waiting for Dr. Phil to make an appearance.
Coincidentally my mommy watches Dr. Phil while she's makeing me dinner, along with my brother, sis, sis's boyfriend, thier 2 kids and brothers girlfriend and her child.
In a way it is humor. I have yet to play a finished MMO.
You obviously know nothing about the game.
Macro for some hours and you have max skills?
Macro isnt even allowed.
And if it were, max skills would take weeks.
LOL, I have no words for how amusing that was to me.
I'm Awesome, Deal With It.
Is this humor?
No, it's the prelude to a thread about how to raise a "strong individual"
That actually made me lmao.
I keep waiting for Dr. Phil to make an appearance.
Coincidentally my mommy watches Dr. Phil while she's makeing me dinner, along with my brother, sis, sis's boyfriend, thier 2 kids and brothers girlfriend and her child.
In a way it is humor. I have yet to play a finished MMO.
I wish he would, Dr. Phil is an idiot, and I wish he would pop on here so I could tell him so.
You think Dr. Phil thinks it is ok for a 32 year old to live at home with mommy and daddy, anxiously awaiting the release of Darkfall?
I would wager the answer to that is no.
LMAO..."the Obama of MMO's"...great line hehe...
LMAO..."the Obama of MMO's"...great line hehe...
Yeah it was. I think DF will make it. The community will be small, but it has to be better than AoC and WAR.
Even if the graphics are poor, it stands just as good a chance as any I guess.
LOL the Obama of MMORPGs. OP Tasos has been saying all of the stuff you posted throughout the years since 2003. And yes its the same game when Tasos has been spouting its feature complete and ready to go since 2003.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Good thing I based all my comments on actual gameplay and not what that tard said 3 years ago or now.
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Wow i am really lmao reading the forums on DF..First it was Fanbois Vs. Vaporware/Trolls. Now we have Fanbois Vs.Fanbois on how good or bad the game is along with trolls.Come and get your peanuts and pop corn.Pre-Order and we will save you a seat..
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